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[[User:Ziusudra|Ziusudra]] ([[User talk:Ziusudra|talk]]) 12:17, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
 
[[User:Ziusudra|Ziusudra]] ([[User talk:Ziusudra|talk]]) 12:17, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
  
:She now has 29 rings on each of her 20 digits. She doesn't feel like crafting 1400+ more to see if they top out at 99. Or getting most of her digits cut off. (I could change the reaction, but would still have to put them on.)
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She now has 29 rings on each of her 20 digits. She doesn't feel like crafting 1400+ more to see if they top out at 99. Or getting most of her digits cut off. (I could change the reaction, but would still have to put them on.)
  
:Let's try bracelets and amulets. Bracelets also alternate hands starting with the right, under gauntlets and over gloves. (Rings and earrings seem to ignore armor, which makes sense as they go on parts that don't have their own armor.)
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Let's try bracelets and amulets. Bracelets also alternate hands starting with the right, under gauntlets and over gloves. (Rings and earrings seem to ignore armor, which makes sense as they go on parts that don't have their own armor.)
  
:Crowns do go on over helms, which is to say a helm put on after a crown will be listed just before the crown. But an amulet put on after that will be listed after the crown. Seems amulets are the same layer as crowns since a helm put on after an amulet will will listed just before the amulet.
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Crowns do go on over helms, which is to say a helm put on after a crown will be listed just before the crown. But an amulet put on after that will be listed after the crown. Seems amulets are the same layer as crowns since a helm put on after an amulet will will listed just before the amulet.
  
:I'll get the numbers later.
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I'll get the numbers later.
:[[User:Ziusudra|Ziusudra]] ([[User talk:Ziusudra|talk]]) 10:02, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
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[[User:Ziusudra|Ziusudra]] ([[User talk:Ziusudra|talk]]) 10:02, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
  
::So, 98 bracelets on left hand, 126 on right hand. Wearing gloves and gauntlets. Removed left glove and 1 right bracelet, then wearing that bracelet puts it on the left (99:125). She can then wear the left glove on the left hand again, can take the gloves and gauntlets off and then wear them again, and can still only have 99 on left even if wearing neither glove nor gauntlet.
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So, 98 bracelets on left hand, 126 on right hand. Wearing gloves and gauntlets. Removed left glove and 1 right bracelet, then wearing that bracelet puts it on the left (99:125). She can then wear the left glove on the left hand again, can take the gloves and gauntlets off and then wear them again, and can still only have 99 on left even if wearing neither glove nor gauntlet.
  
::Seems bracelets and gloves are the same layer and there is a soft limit for jewelry of 99 objects per layer per body part. Jewelry still has layer size 0 or she would not have been able to put the gloves or gauntlets back on.
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Seems bracelets and gloves are the same layer and there is a soft limit for jewelry of 99 objects per layer per body part. Jewelry still has layer size 0 or she would not have been able to put the gloves or gauntlets back on.
  
::She doesn't see any point in trying amulets or crowns without a second head. Notably, she is currently wearing '''2''' crowns and 1 amulet.
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She doesn't see any point in trying amulets or crowns without a second head. Notably, she is currently wearing '''2''' crowns and 1 amulet.
  
::After thinking about coverage, I ''think'' 99 items with coverage 1 would be equivalent to ~63 coverage. 99% chance to get passed one, 99 times is 0.99<sup>99</sup> = ~37%.
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After thinking about coverage, I ''think'' 99 items with coverage 1 would be equivalent to ~63 coverage. 99% chance to get passed one, 99 times is 0.99<sup>99</sup> = ~37%.
::[[User:Ziusudra|Ziusudra]] ([[User talk:Ziusudra|talk]]) 08:20, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
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[[User:Ziusudra|Ziusudra]] ([[User talk:Ziusudra|talk]]) 08:20, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
  
:::Currently verifying some of these old findings, and this dwarf puts bracelets on the right hand first. Either something changed or handedness determines order. She does wield a dagger in her right hand. Pretty sure that previous dwarf was left handed. [[User:Ziusudra|Ziusudra]] ([[User talk:Ziusudra|talk]]) 11:15, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
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Currently verifying some of these old findings, and this dwarf puts bracelets on the right hand first. Either something changed or handedness determines order. She does wield a dagger in her right hand. Pretty sure that previous dwarf was left handed. [[User:Ziusudra|Ziusudra]] ([[User talk:Ziusudra|talk]]) 11:15, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
  
::::I misremembered and didn't read my previous notes well enough. So the previous possibly left handed dwarf also put them on the right side first. So handedness probably does not determine order. Needs more testing to be sure. [[User:Ziusudra|Ziusudra]] ([[User talk:Ziusudra|talk]]) 12:41, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
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I misremembered and didn't read my previous notes well enough. So the previous possibly left handed dwarf also put them on the right side first. So handedness probably does not determine order. Needs more testing to be sure. [[User:Ziusudra|Ziusudra]] ([[User talk:Ziusudra|talk]]) 12:41, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
  
 
Are earrings still limitted to 11 per ear for fortress dwarves? That limit isn't there for adventurers. I hav a vague memory of reading that 11 was based on someone's decompile info. But it's not in the old talk pages, gonna see if I can find that. [[User:Ziusudra|Ziusudra]] ([[User talk:Ziusudra|talk]]) 06:28, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
 
Are earrings still limitted to 11 per ear for fortress dwarves? That limit isn't there for adventurers. I hav a vague memory of reading that 11 was based on someone's decompile info. But it's not in the old talk pages, gonna see if I can find that. [[User:Ziusudra|Ziusudra]] ([[User talk:Ziusudra|talk]]) 06:28, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

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