Editing 40d Talk:Magma smelter

So, what's the advantage of building a magma smelter over a regular one?  What can you do with the aid of magma that you can't with a normal one?  This may seem obvious, but I think it'd be far more informative for the newbies than just telling us how to make one and make it work.  It'd be nice if the limitations of the regular smelter also made it into the smelter article. --[[User:BDR|BDR]] 19:25, 2 November 2007 (EDT)

Magma smelters don't require fuel for anything other then making steel or pig iron bars. I think you can only make adamantium wafers at magma smelters, but i'm not sure about this so I'm not going to add it.[[User:Moonman|Moonman]] 08:52, 29 February 2008 (EST)

:Even then, the coal isn't really fuel, it is a what you add to iron to make steel (steel=iron + carbon and the carbon has to come from somewhere).[[User:GarrieIrons|GarrieIrons]] 04:24, 3 June 2008 (EDT)

How do you build it? I currently have a setup like this:<br />
 Lvl 1:   Lvl 0:<br />
  SSS      MMM<br />
  CSS      MMM<br />
  SSS      MMM<br />
S=smelter, C=channel, M=magma<br />
but it still requires coal to melt ores...how do i make it so that the smelter becomes a magma smelter? is there an order that you have to build it in? --[[User:Wizjany|Wizjany]] 20:50, 25 October 2008 (EDT)
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 :Even then, the coal isn't really fuel, it is a what you add to iron to make steel (steel=iron + carbon and the carbon has to come from somewhere).[[User:GarrieIrons|GarrieIrons]] 04:24, 3 June 2008 (EDT)
-== How to build a magma smelter ==
 How do you build it? I currently have a setup like this:<br />
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 S=smelter, C=channel, M=magma<br />
 but it still requires coal to melt ores...how do i make it so that the smelter becomes a magma smelter? is there an order that you have to build it in? --[[User:Wizjany|Wizjany]] 20:50, 25 October 2008 (EDT)
-:If you are smelting steel, you will need coal anyway. Elsewise, it sounds like you built a normal smelter instead of a magma smelter. [[User:HeWhoIsPale|HeWhoIsPale]] 21:02, 25 October 2008 (EDT)
-:: Two things: First, Lvl 1 needs to have one of the outer tiles placed on a channel above magma. It isn't enough that magma passes under the smelter/forge, there has to be an opening in the floor to get to the stuff. The best choice in your scenario is the north row, middle column, as this prevents magma creatures from entering the room. Second, the Magma Smelter is a ''different building'' than the normal Smelter. Make sure you are building a "Magma Smelter" and not just a "Smelter." --[[User:RomeoFalling|RomeoFalling]] 22:20, 25 October 2008 (EDT)
-the smelter was built over a channel. it said it was blocked so I dug the channel(over magma), built a floor, built the smelter, and then removed the floor so that i had the middle right tile over magma
-I don't know how to build a magma smelter, it only allows me to build a normal smelter, I thought it would change to a magma one if i built  it over magma --[[User:Wizjany|Wizjany]] 23:12, 25 October 2008 (EDT)
-  You over-thought your solution.
-  Step 1   Step 2
-  #####
-  #._.#     {{k|b}}uild a
-  #...#     furnac{{k|e}} of type
-  #...#     Magma Sme{{k|l}}ter             ( not a {{k|s}}melter )
-  #####
-  Hope this helps. --[[User:RomeoFalling|RomeoFalling]] 23:24, 25 October 2008 (EDT)
-:Don't build a floor either: dig a channel over magma, then lay down the furnace right on top of it.--[[User:Maximus|Maximus]] 02:38, 26 October 2008 (EDT)
-alright thanks, it didn't properly let me build a magma smelter, only a smelter...i fixed that now --[[User:Wizjany|Wizjany]] 10:00, 26 October 2008 (EDT)
-== Substituting for Fuel but ... ==
-"Magma smelters do not use up or cool down any magma when in use."
-This brings-up a question that I don't think is mentioned on any other page: do any of the furnaces consume magma to function (i.e., 7/7 temporarily becomes 6/7 after a single job)? if not, is this a projected future effect of magma furnace operation? --[[User:FJH|FJH]] 15:08, 25 March 2009 (EST)
-:Exactly what the quote says.  No. I am not sure about the future.--[[User:Zchris13|Zchris13]] 19:55, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
-== right side bar fixed ==
-This is another place where "bar" was linked to the grate bars instead of the intended metal bars.
-By strict wiki rules they would all link to a disambiguation page, but here it's clear by context in the sidebar it means the material, not the product.
-==Magma pipe not triggering magma smelters==
-I've found a magma pipe, but for some reason magma smelters are not available as a smelter type.  Am I missing something?  Do I need a dwarf to burn up before they'll acknowledge that there's magma there? <small>(unsigned by [[User:Deekoo|Deekoo]])</small>
-:Did the game pause when you got a message to the effect of "You have found a magma pipe!"?   Did the game ever pause and warn you that you had found "warm stone"?  If not, did you happen to use Reveal on this map? If so, did you happen to read ''any'' of the warnings that come with Reveal?--[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 16:27, 11 June 2009 (UTC)