Editing v0.31 Talk:Raw adamantine

==Confirmation?==
I verified all things I added a while ago using reveal on several random embark locations, further I checked the values of material multipliers. Adamantine is magma proof, also tried that out. The other information is easily confirmed by screens. Should I add those? I reverted the edit, for the information is almost certainly correct. Just try it yourself.[[User:BBW|BBW]] 00:01, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
:In that case, my apologies.  I was misinformed. --[[User:Briess|Briess]] 00:23, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

== Down-stairs? ==

Can down-stairs prevent the demons from getting though? --[[User:Tarran|Tarran]]
:Unlikely - even in 40d, down-stairs above open space were enough to let Spirits of Fire through. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 23:34, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
::Well, I'm pretty sure clowns are now randomly generated, but even if you get lucky and none of them can fly, they can still barf webs/fire/radioactive elves/whatever up through the stairwell. I'd recommend a good, sturdy wall. --[[User:Mr Frog|Mr Frog]] 23:21, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

== Outdated Picture ==

Really minor detail, but the image on the page is from 40d, which isn't really accurate for this version's article. Could someone take a similar screenie of the 0.31.01 [[magma sea]] pillars? I'd do it myself, but I've already found a pillar in my current fortress and I <b>really</b> don't feel like probing around for another one (assuming there even IS another one in there). Sorry for nitpicking. --[[User:Mr Frog|Mr Frog]] 23:11, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
:The message is exactly the same, but I see what you're getting at - I'm going to leave that screenie but go find another of the pillars to insert a little later. --[[User:Retro|Retro]] 02:45, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
::Could that second image be a little larger in the original, and then get thumbed? Some detail is lost, and it'd be nice to see it "full size", as an option (as is w/ the announcement image - but no detail was lost in that, natch.)<br />Oh - and a quick footnote comment/explanation about how that image was achieved would be nice too - keeps newbies from going crazy w/ the vanilla game. --[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 09:15, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Absolutely; I didn't realize there was an auto-thumbnailing function thing until I had already shrunken it myself. I'll go and recapture the image and then add the relevant details on how it was done later tonight. --[[User:Retro|Retro]] 21:27, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

== Best Weapons ==
The part of the article that says "and weapons and armor made from it are very likely among the best possible" is wrong, isn't it? I thought since the material re-write, adamantine made the worst weapons in the game due to their low weight, and thus low force of impact. At the very least, the make terrible hammers and maces now, don't they? --[[Special:Contributions/130.184.250.29|130.184.250.29]] 23:10, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
*They are still better than all the other materials (with the possible exception of slade) even due its low weight. Maybe its weapons aren't as strong as before but they are still better than steel.--[[User:Niggy|Niggy]] 16:45, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

== Safe mining? ==
I just had an idea if you did not want to breach HFS, what if you just dig down to lower levels of the tube and carve fortifications? The only danger is ranged attacks from within. And you could be confident that those levels at and above are safe. --[[User:Tarran|Tarran]] 18:46, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
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-==Embark==
-Could anyone tell me how to make adamantine wafers & strands available in the embark supplies screen?
-==Location==
-According to the current info: "If an adamantine veins is located in an embark square, it will be in the center of this square."
-I'm not entirely sure this is true. I am currently on a 2x2 embark, and have located 2 adamantine veins. One is vertically centered between the NW and SW embark square, and the other is vertically centered between the NE and SE embark square. They are definitely not located in the center or their respective embark squares. --[[User:Telarin|Telarin]] 14:15, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
-==Infobox==
-Uh oh!  I don't know what happened, but the stonelookup template got messed with here, when I used the Rater!  I never understood the Stonelookup template anyway, anyone know how to fix? --[[User:Aescula|Aescula]] 08:16, 26 May 2010 (UTC) (I know, an admin without knowledge of what happened, but...  Yeah.)
-:Looks fine to me... --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 12:45, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
 ==Confirmation?==
 I verified all things I added a while ago using reveal on several random embark locations, further I checked the values of material multipliers. Adamantine is magma proof, also tried that out. The other information is easily confirmed by screens. Should I add those? I reverted the edit, for the information is almost certainly correct. Just try it yourself.[[User:BBW|BBW]] 00:01, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
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 The part of the article that says "and weapons and armor made from it are very likely among the best possible" is wrong, isn't it? I thought since the material re-write, adamantine made the worst weapons in the game due to their low weight, and thus low force of impact. At the very least, the make terrible hammers and maces now, don't they? --[[Special:Contributions/130.184.250.29|130.184.250.29]] 23:10, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
 *They are still better than all the other materials (with the possible exception of slade) even due its low weight. Maybe its weapons aren't as strong as before but they are still better than steel.--[[User:Niggy|Niggy]] 16:45, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
-** I thought I read somewhere that silver war hammers were ''way'' better than adamantine war hammers. --[[User:MarauderIIC|MarauderIIC]] 04:45, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
-***Silver being very dense (or, denser than adamantine, anyway) this is very true. Silver makes great blunt weapons.[[User:Infinity WEAPON|Infinity WEAPON]] 16:09, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
 == Safe mining? ==
 I just had an idea if you did not want to breach HFS, what if you just dig down to lower levels of the tube and carve fortifications? The only danger is ranged attacks from within. And you could be confident that those levels at and above are safe. --[[User:Tarran|Tarran]] 18:46, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
-:The issue is that you don't know where HFS starts - even if you knew where it was, there's a chance that on the way there you'd accidentally pierce a hollow part of the tube and invoke Hell's wrath before you were prepared. If you carve fortifications into the adamantine walls, it only defends you against semi-molten rock. --[[User:Retro|Retro]] 18:51, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
-:Given the actual layout, that could be infeasible - the actual wall around the tube is only 1 tile thick in most places, and the tube itself is usually surrounded either by semi-molten rock (which cannot be mined) or magma (which could be rather problematic to remove); thus, while you could certainly try to carve fortifications, there'd still be the problem of getting into a position from which to carve them. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 18:53, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
-::I'm Talking about tubes that extend past the magma sea, and it's not that much of a problem to dig around the whole vein level... Right?. --[[User:Tarran|Tarran]] 18:58, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
-:::Not all of them actually extend that far beyond the magma, and it's entirely possible (and quite likely) that the hollow part will be within the magma or molten rock. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 19:03, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
-::::What I'm trying to say is that if you use fortifications then you could figure out which levels ''above'' the magma sea are safe, the levels at or below it still require military. --[[User:Tarran|Tarran]] 19:12, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
-:::::Ah, I see - assumed you were talking about deeper levels. Well, that'd make sense for levels above the magma sea certainly, though I don't think it's that likely that above the sea you'd dig into HFS. Mildly practical but certainly no trouble. --[[User:Retro|Retro]] 21:23, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
-::::::Did 7 embarks and used reveal on all 7 the hollow part started at equal or below the semi-molten rock layer each time. [[User:MLegion|MLegion]] 20:25, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
-::::::With version 0.31.14 (but world generated in 0.31.13), I just ran inadvertantly into HFS while I was searching for magma :-(. No idea where the magma is, but surely the nasty stuff is there.--[[Special:Contributions/88.149.235.255|88.149.235.255]] 20:36, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
-== Adamantite Thread ==
-Do Dwarves sutured with Adamantite thread have defensive bonuses? [[User:Ghosteh|Ghosteh]] 23:25, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
-:the 30,000 dwarf buck man? [[User:Dangerous Beans|Dangerous Beans]] 07:05, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
-== Storage ==
-I verified that in 31.18 the adamantine thread and cloth can be in stored in previously empty bin and in individual spaces in the cloth pile without bins.