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I'm told you can train these as war bears, as seen via the raws, but I've never been able to do it. People say you can do it without a dungeon master. Confirm/Deny?
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I'm told you can train these as war bears, as seen via the raws, but I've never been able to do it. People say you can do it without a dungeon master. Confirm/Deny? --[[User:SirPenguin|SirPenguin]] 17:40, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
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:I think the problem is that you can't designate a specific animal to train, try killing all your dogs and training a war animal(I haven't made a kennel yet in v0.31) [[Special:Contributions/68.161.167.37|68.161.167.37]] 17:48, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
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::Better yet, just put all of your dogs into a cage - animals can't be trained unless they can walk to the kennels on their own. Also make sure your bears '''aren't''' in cages. Oh, and for Armok's sake, ''keep them away from your booze stockpiles''! --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 17:53, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
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:::I've successfully trained war bears in 2 forts now, and have updated the page. You don't need a dungeon master, and you just do the "train war dog" task with tame grizzly bears running about your fort and it seems to work automatically in the same way as dogs do. If you don't want to train your dogs then I guess you'd have to trap them somewhere. I assume that if you trap them yourself you have to do "Tame large animal" first. Bought ones are already tame and that's how I've always done it. --[[User:Akkie|Akkie]] 10:54 UTC, 17 April 2010
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::::The "Tame Large Animal" first is the kicker, and that can't be done without a dungeon master (if at all?  I've never seen a DM).
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:::::You don't need to tame large animal, select tame war dog and it will tame the bears as well--[[User:Radical|Radical]] 8:37 EST, 8 May
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:::::Grizzly bears have [PET] rather than [PET_EXOTIC] so anybody can tame a ''captured '''wild''''' grizzly (using "Tame Large Animal"). If you bought it from the elves, it's already tame. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 01:18, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
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Someone has to say it "Bear Cavalry." --[[User:Truean|Truean]] 16:45, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
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:Fantasy general has them :) --[[Special:Contributions/92.202.106.165|92.202.106.165]] 18:19, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
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Is it just me, or can you train grizzlies (not for war, but just taming them) without a Dungeon Master?  I'm using v31_12_b.
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:Yes, you can. It say so on the page, actually. --[[User:Eurytus|Eurytus]] 16:54, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
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=Captured Grizzlies=
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I captured some War grizzly bears from goblin attackers using cage traps. Now I have a bunch of goblin swordsmen and war grizzly bears in cages at animal stockpile. My kennel is next to this stockpile, but when I select "tame large animal" option, these war grizzly bears do not appear there. How do I tame them? -vlex
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:You don't. A) they need to be free to roam, and B) they're too loyal to the goblins to consider working for your dwarves. Catch wild grizzlies instead, or buy 'em from the elves. --[[User:DeMatt|DeMatt]] 05:30, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
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::They don't "need to be free to roam" - indeed they must be caged. See [[Kennel#Tame_a_Large_Animal|Kennel]]. --[[User:WwWraith|WwWraith]] 11:58, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
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::Can I put them to chains so they can breed and get me homemade grizzlies? :)
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:::It's my understanding that creatures breed by "spores" and that reproduction takes place as long as at least one male and one female can be found on the map. (see [[Meat_industry#Breeding|Breeding]]) As such, I imagine you could leave a '''male''' chained up in order to breed with tame females (captured or bought from caravan). As for the loyalty of the cubs from a goblin's grizzly, I have no idea. Perhaps you should try [[!!SCIENCE!!]] and report your findings here? --[[User:Thundercraft|Thundercraft]] 10:00, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
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::::They really do make cubs and they are tamable. BUT it seems that even tamed cubs are hostile to my dwarves. :( Let's see when one grows up if I can turn it to war grizzly and hopefully force it under my command!
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:::::I just tried this. It miserably failed. Those tamed invader bear offspring go berzerk once released from their cage spotting a dwarf. My trainer started training and the bear ran towards him like a dog usually does. Poor Kivish, needs new pants now.

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Training[edit]

I'm told you can train these as war bears, as seen via the raws, but I've never been able to do it. People say you can do it without a dungeon master. Confirm/Deny? --SirPenguin 17:40, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

I think the problem is that you can't designate a specific animal to train, try killing all your dogs and training a war animal(I haven't made a kennel yet in v0.31) 68.161.167.37 17:48, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
Better yet, just put all of your dogs into a cage - animals can't be trained unless they can walk to the kennels on their own. Also make sure your bears aren't in cages. Oh, and for Armok's sake, keep them away from your booze stockpiles! --Quietust 17:53, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
I've successfully trained war bears in 2 forts now, and have updated the page. You don't need a dungeon master, and you just do the "train war dog" task with tame grizzly bears running about your fort and it seems to work automatically in the same way as dogs do. If you don't want to train your dogs then I guess you'd have to trap them somewhere. I assume that if you trap them yourself you have to do "Tame large animal" first. Bought ones are already tame and that's how I've always done it. --Akkie 10:54 UTC, 17 April 2010
The "Tame Large Animal" first is the kicker, and that can't be done without a dungeon master (if at all? I've never seen a DM).
You don't need to tame large animal, select tame war dog and it will tame the bears as well--Radical 8:37 EST, 8 May
Grizzly bears have [PET] rather than [PET_EXOTIC] so anybody can tame a captured wild grizzly (using "Tame Large Animal"). If you bought it from the elves, it's already tame. --Quietust 01:18, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Someone has to say it "Bear Cavalry." --Truean 16:45, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Fantasy general has them :) --92.202.106.165 18:19, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Is it just me, or can you train grizzlies (not for war, but just taming them) without a Dungeon Master? I'm using v31_12_b.

Yes, you can. It say so on the page, actually. --Eurytus 16:54, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Captured Grizzlies[edit]

I captured some War grizzly bears from goblin attackers using cage traps. Now I have a bunch of goblin swordsmen and war grizzly bears in cages at animal stockpile. My kennel is next to this stockpile, but when I select "tame large animal" option, these war grizzly bears do not appear there. How do I tame them? -vlex

You don't. A) they need to be free to roam, and B) they're too loyal to the goblins to consider working for your dwarves. Catch wild grizzlies instead, or buy 'em from the elves. --DeMatt 05:30, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
They don't "need to be free to roam" - indeed they must be caged. See Kennel. --WwWraith 11:58, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
Can I put them to chains so they can breed and get me homemade grizzlies? :)
It's my understanding that creatures breed by "spores" and that reproduction takes place as long as at least one male and one female can be found on the map. (see Breeding) As such, I imagine you could leave a male chained up in order to breed with tame females (captured or bought from caravan). As for the loyalty of the cubs from a goblin's grizzly, I have no idea. Perhaps you should try !!SCIENCE!! and report your findings here? --Thundercraft 10:00, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
They really do make cubs and they are tamable. BUT it seems that even tamed cubs are hostile to my dwarves. :( Let's see when one grows up if I can turn it to war grizzly and hopefully force it under my command!
I just tried this. It miserably failed. Those tamed invader bear offspring go berzerk once released from their cage spotting a dwarf. My trainer started training and the bear ran towards him like a dog usually does. Poor Kivish, needs new pants now.