Editing v0.31 Talk:Cat

== Embark Cost ==
Has the update done anything to the 40d system of embark points?  Also, I tried to clear out anything that looked like it won't fit in this version when I filled the page out, but this definitely needs work.--[[User:Johntor|Johntor]] 18:31, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
:Embark cost is still the same. However, some other details have been changed with respect to butchering - reportedly, particularly young kittens will yield '''zero''' bones due to the new creature size mechanics. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 20:05, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
::Speaking of size mechanics, do you know if anyone has pinned down the exact relationship between butchering yields and the new creature size mechanics? --[[User:Johntor|Johntor]] 00:44, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

== Cat body colors and male calicos ==

If you get a cat's profile using 'z' it will describe the cat, including all the colors of their fur. I've found that cats often have multiple colors, including males. Multiple colors indicates a calico cat, which is strictly female.--[[Special:Contributions/208.81.12.34|208.81.12.34]] 16:43, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

== Cat meat ==

When I butcher a cat, I get only a skull and no meat. [[Special:Contributions/89.251.107.19|89.251.107.19]] 14:16, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
:The results of butchery depend a LOT on the individual animal's stats.  If they're described as being fat, then they'll generate more fat.  If they're described as being skinny, they'll generate less.  Cats are small enough that no-variation kittens tend to generate only a skull - once it's grown into an adult, it'll generate a few bones and skin and such.  If you want more out of each individual animal, then you'll need to breed your animals larger - kill off small ones, let big ones breed. --[[User:DeMatt|DeMatt]] 07:53, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
:: Does that actually work in DF? Genetic breeding programs? --[[User:Romeofalling|Romeofalling]] 18:29, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

:::Running v. .31.16, I am consistently getting kitten-sized returns (0-2 meat, 0-2 fat, 0-1 skin, 1 skull) from fullgrown cats, and not the 6-7 meat&fat noted in the article. I just slaughtered a dozen feline catsplosion-generators, and had the same results every time. Either the fullgrown cat returns have changed, or something about maturing in cages causes them to keep their kittenish returns - all cats were immediately caged at birth and matured (and allowed to stew for awhile) in a cage. This includes cats with descriptions of "gigantic" (for some reason all but one of my free-ranging cats are "gigantic", so most of their offspring are too). [[Special:Contributions/202.156.10.234|202.156.10.234]] 09:28, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

== Cat/vermin ratios? ==

How many cats does your fortress need, anyway? I assume the answer is based on size? Or maybe number of food stockpiles? --[[User:Romeofalling|Romeofalling]] 18:29, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
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 If you get a cat's profile using 'z' it will describe the cat, including all the colors of their fur. I've found that cats often have multiple colors, including males. Multiple colors indicates a calico cat, which is strictly female.--[[Special:Contributions/208.81.12.34|208.81.12.34]] 16:43, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
-:I have a grey and white cat at home, He is a male. :| also in the past we have had male tortoise shell cats. However one thing which is "meant" to be true is that all ginger cats are male. We randomly ended up adopting a female ginger cat and she was bonkers. Then one day she just went to sleep and died :S --[[User:Djsmiley2k|Djsmiley2k]] 11:33, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
-:Calicos are almost always female because some coloring traits are sex linked, but they can also be male.--[[Special:Contributions/75.80.43.80|75.80.43.80]] 11:49, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
-:My mom's a vet, IIRC she said that cats with three colors (orange, black, white?) are always female. I have a male cat who is white, light grey, and dark grey, so I think it is the specific colors that are the relevant factor.--[[User:Dwarvenjames|Dwarvenjames]] 02:49, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
 == Cat meat ==
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 :::Running v. .31.16, I am consistently getting kitten-sized returns (0-2 meat, 0-2 fat, 0-1 skin, 1 skull) from fullgrown cats, and not the 6-7 meat&fat noted in the article. I just slaughtered a dozen feline catsplosion-generators, and had the same results every time. Either the fullgrown cat returns have changed, or something about maturing in cages causes them to keep their kittenish returns - all cats were immediately caged at birth and matured (and allowed to stew for awhile) in a cage. This includes cats with descriptions of "gigantic" (for some reason all but one of my free-ranging cats are "gigantic", so most of their offspring are too). [[Special:Contributions/202.156.10.234|202.156.10.234]] 09:28, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
-::::Had they just grown to become adults, or had they been adults for at least a year? According to the raws, cats take two years to reach their full size. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 13:33, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
-:::::This was a 6-year old fort which up to that point had not slaughtered any kitties. So I'm pretty sure that at least some of the dozen were more than 2 years old, although I can't say 100%. But regardless, if that is what is happening then the page is wrong: adult cats don't return 6-7 meat/fat, they return 0-7. Look at it this way: if a stray "Cat" wanders in with immigrants, (therefore you have no idea how old it is) and you slaughter it, what will you get? Maybe 6, maybe 0. Compare with the [[Dog]] page, which says dog returns range from 6-13, roughly proportional to the immature vs. mature adult sizes. [[Special:Contributions/202.156.10.234|202.156.10.234]] 02:41, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
-::::::Adjusted the butchering return numbers, and added info in the text about immature returns. Feel free to revert if any objection. I wanted to put something like "0-1 raw hides", but the CreatureInfo macro doesn't seem to offer a way to do that. [[Special:Contributions/202.156.10.234|202.156.10.234]] 03:44, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
-:::::: From the patch notes - you CAN selectively breed : '# Creatures inherit appearances from their parents. This includes dominant/recessive genes.  * As one example, you can use this system to breed your dogs to a certain color/size.' --[[User:Djsmiley2k|Djsmiley2k]] 16:50, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
 == Cat/vermin ratios? ==
 How many cats does your fortress need, anyway? I assume the answer is based on size? Or maybe number of food stockpiles? --[[User:Romeofalling|Romeofalling]] 18:29, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
-== More prefstrings ==
-If you give cats additional prefstrings, are they also extra-likely to adopt dwarves who like cats for the added reasons, or does it only apply to aloofness? I imagine it would be the first, but it might be hard-coded or some crazy thing. I just now gave my cats extra prefstrings, so I guess I can keep an eye on it myself, but if someone happens to already know... --[[User:Billybobfred|billybobfred]] 02:47, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
-== Cat Plague? ==
-I just had 11 cats bleed to death by the entrance (relevant?), but there is no fighting reported. No idea why. Anybody know why this occurs?--[[User:Dwarvenjames|Dwarvenjames]] 02:53, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
-:They got a [[v0.31:Syndrome|syndrome]] from somewhere, probably from the blood of a Forgotten Beast or something similar.  [[User:Uristocrat|Uristocrat]] 04:51, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
-:Wow! I have never come across that page before. Daaaaaang. Yeah there have been two Titans on the surface near the entrance.... Ok, I will now accept this as fun instead of totally mystifying. Tx! --[[User:Dwarvenjames|Dwarvenjames]] 07:11, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
-==Cat adopt==
-is it possible to make only male cats adopt owner by moving the [ADOPTS_OWNER] after a [SELECT_CASTE:MALE] ?--[[Special:Contributions/79.116.232.44|79.116.232.44]] 19:04, 7 February 2012 (UTC)