Editing 40d Talk:Decoration

== Disappearing Ecrusted Goods ==

Would anyone know why the objects that I encrust with jems don't seem to turn up anywhere? The encruster just stands around with it for a while and then I can't find it anymore. [[User:Patarak|Patarak]] 05:20, 24 January 2008 (EST)
:Dwarf McShinyPants cancels encrust with antimatter: Giant Explosion.--[[User:Ikkonoishi|Ikkonoishi]] 12:53, 24 January 2008 (EST)
:maybe they r stuck in your workshop cos thers no room in/no fitting stockpile or no hauler available? use {{Key|t}} on the workshop to check its contents--[[User:Koltom|Koltom]] 16:48, 10 February 2008 (EST)



== Encrusting Ammo ==

Is there really a point to it unless you're selling the ammo? I would expect it to increase damage or something, but that's just me. --[[User:Eurytus|Eurytus]] 23:39, 2 April 2008 (EST)

:Encrusing ammo only increases its value, and it is currently bugged so that encrusted ammo is much more valuable than it should be.  [[User:Bouchart|Bouchart]] 09:52, 13 April 2008 (EDT)

::As an example, a stack of 25 iron bolts encrusted with topazes are worth over 10000 dwarfbucks. --[[User:Doniazade|Doniazade]] 10:24, 27 May 2008 (EDT)

== Multiple gem decorations? ==

Can I decorate an item with more than one type of gem?  [[User:Gairabad|Gairabad]] 00:30, 18 December 2008 (EST)
:Yes.  Each gem type is a separate decoration. --[[User:Squirrelloid|Squirrelloid]] 01:17, 18 December 2008 (EST)

== Base Item Material ==

Can I decorate an item made of <Material> with decorations made of <Same Material>? [[User:Rkyeun|Rkyeun]] 13:50, 18 December 2008 (EST)

:<Yes>.--[[User:Maximus|Maximus]] 13:53, 18 December 2008 (EST)

== Types of decorations ==

Does anyone know what all the possible types of decoration are?  I assume you couldn't have the same type of decoration twice (even if the material used is different) but is that really true?  How do multiple decorations of different quality affect the quality tag that shows up on the item?--[[User:Jpwrunyan|Jpwrunyan]] 01:15, 29 January 2009 (EST)
:From the value page: Decorations include "It is decorated with <material>", "It is banded with <material>", "It is adorned with hanging rings of <material>", "This object menaces with spikes of <material>", "On this object is an image of <description> in <material>", "It is studded with <metal>".--[[User:Dorten|Dorten]] 01:57, 3 February 2009 (EST)

== sew image ==

both clothiers and leatherworkers can sew images onto all the same materials.. as in, leatherworkers can sew on cloth and vice versa. bug? (v0.28.181.40d.)
:If I understand your question, the answer is No.  Why does this strike you as strange?  In real life you can have leather decorations on regular cloth.  You can also sow into (soft) leather.  Most leather jackets, for example, have a cloth liner.  Military clothes of any material will have insignia sewn on it.  You need to go clothes shopping some time!--[[User:Jpwrunyan|Jpwrunyan]] 05:41, 2 February 2009 (EST)
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 ::As an example, a stack of 25 iron bolts encrusted with topazes are worth over 10000 dwarfbucks. --[[User:Doniazade|Doniazade]] 10:24, 27 May 2008 (EDT)
-:::Also there really isn't any reason to expect it to increase damage(In fact it should really decrease it...).Especially since all it does for anything else is increase value.
 == Multiple gem decorations? ==
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 :<Yes>.--[[User:Maximus|Maximus]] 13:53, 18 December 2008 (EST)
-:I couldn't. I locked my metalcrafter in with steel bars and (+Steel Bolts [25]+) and he refused. Ditto with (Steel Chain Mail). --[[User:Calculator|Calculator]] 20:33, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
-:I think that what Maximus is thinking of is on artifacts, which get a free decoration made out of the base material. [[Special:Contributions/74.116.26.99|74.116.26.99]] 17:48, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
 == Types of decorations ==
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 Does anyone know what all the possible types of decoration are?  I assume you couldn't have the same type of decoration twice (even if the material used is different) but is that really true?  How do multiple decorations of different quality affect the quality tag that shows up on the item?--[[User:Jpwrunyan|Jpwrunyan]] 01:15, 29 January 2009 (EST)
 :From the value page: Decorations include "It is decorated with <material>", "It is banded with <material>", "It is adorned with hanging rings of <material>", "This object menaces with spikes of <material>", "On this object is an image of <description> in <material>", "It is studded with <metal>".--[[User:Dorten|Dorten]] 01:57, 3 February 2009 (EST)
-::Thank you!--[[User:Jpwrunyan|Jpwrunyan]] 02:26, 4 February 2009 (EST)
 == sew image ==
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 both clothiers and leatherworkers can sew images onto all the same materials.. as in, leatherworkers can sew on cloth and vice versa. bug? (v0.28.181.40d.)
 :If I understand your question, the answer is No.  Why does this strike you as strange?  In real life you can have leather decorations on regular cloth.  You can also sow into (soft) leather.  Most leather jackets, for example, have a cloth liner.  Military clothes of any material will have insignia sewn on it.  You need to go clothes shopping some time!--[[User:Jpwrunyan|Jpwrunyan]] 05:41, 2 February 2009 (EST)
-==Quality Question==
-Anybody know if the decorations affect the damage done?  As in, which is better as a weapon:<br>
-=(Sword)= <br>☼(Sword)☼ <br> or<br>-Sword-<br>--[[User:Kwieland|Kwieland]] 15:40, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
-: You are talking bout the Quality of an item, wich does affect its damage, this is about studing it, wich does not.[[User:Corhen|Corhen]] 06:02, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
-::Decorations do not.  Decorations can have quality as well as the weapon - decorations are outside the double angle-brackets, the item quality is within them. So if you have *<<+steel battle axe+>>*, you have a +steel battle axe+ with *decorations* on it.  Weapon quality modifiers are under [[Weapon#Damage calculation]]. (And, looking at the main page, I can't believe that this basic concept is not explained.)  Parentheses indicate something that you brought with you, that you did not create (not part of "created wealth, not until decorated - then it all counts.)  --[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 11:09, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
-== decorating armor ==
-I posted this at the jeweler's workshop but will ask here as well.
-Is there some trick to getting Armor decorated, particularly with gems?
-I had my armor in an armor stockpile locked behind doors with my jeweler and his workshop but when I selected encrust finished goods, he didn't do anything.
-Is it because the stockpile has to be a finished goods stockpile???  What gives?
---[[User:Jpwrunyan|Jpwrunyan]] 03:55, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
-: Objects can be studded with various metals at a metalsmith's forge. Requires metalcrafting. This does not require fuel. '''Metal studs are the only way to decorate weapons and metal armor.''' So if it is metal armor... --[[User:Karl|Karl]] 07:03, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
-::I don't mean to sound rude but can you tell how you verified that?  I haven't seen that about decorating armor until now.  And on the bay12 forum one poster talked explicitely about encrusting his armor with gems.  Was he just full of poo?--[[User:Jpwrunyan|Jpwrunyan]] 03:53, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
-:::Was (s)he talking about an artifact? They can get all kinds of crazy... --[[User:Solarshado|Solarshado]] 21:05, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
-:::Armor is not a finished good, not ammo, not furniture. How do you want to go about giving the order to deco armor with gems? Of course with modding you can make almost anything possible, like smelting cows..too many ppl on the forum get things wrong. Some even seem to take strange drugs, considering what they claim to remember. --[[User:Koltom|Koltom]] 14:49, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
-== Rings vs. spikes and so on ==
-The page says that the type of decoration doesn't affect the value, but I read a few weeks ago on the forum that each race (possibly civ, I forget) has preferences for decoration types. The poster discovered the effect when trading. I haven't tried it myself, but I do recall seeing something in one of the RAWs about it. --[[User:Solarshado|Solarshado]] 21:09, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
-:They have a preference for certain decorations when making their items, not when buying/selling. The buying/selling preferences are only when traders ask for certain types of items based on what that race likes/needs. [[User:Shardok|Shardok]] 00:24, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
-== Can't Encrust with Stone? ==
-I have been playing around with encrusting/decorating more than I have during previous fortresses, and have noticed the lack of an option for encrusting/decorating with stone. I thought I might not have been looking hard enough and might find out how here, but this page doesn't mention the ability or the inability to do so. If it is the case that it is not possible, then it might be worth mentioning, as it seems feasible as a game feature outside of the flukes that sometimes happen with artifacts (for example, it is rather uncouth for a bed to be made out of leather, or a shoe to be made out of felsite, whereas decorating something with stone is less so).[[User:Urist Axebeard|Urist Axebeard]]
-== Decorating and Weight ==
-Do decorations add to weight?