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If this is acceptable, I can begin changing them to use this format (perhaps a template would be useful?). --[[User:SeiferTim|SeiferTim]] 13:53, 7 March 2008 (EST)
 
If this is acceptable, I can begin changing them to use this format (perhaps a template would be useful?). --[[User:SeiferTim|SeiferTim]] 13:53, 7 March 2008 (EST)
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== Page Cleanup ==
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Okay, so I've begun a mission to clean up the creatures page.  So far, I made a couple of templates for the sortable table, and I've started converting the currently existing lists into tables.  Phase II will be to alphabetize the tables.
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Would it make sense to change the way the creatures are categorized?  It seems less helpful (at least to me) to have them grouped by Neutral, Benign, Evil, etc, then to group them by type or biome?
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For example, would it be better to have the table look like this:
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=== Natural ===
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{| style="margin:1em 1em 1em 0;background:#F9F9F9;border:1px #AAA solid;border-collapse:collapse;" class="wikitable sortable"
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|- style="background:#F2F2F2;text-align:center;"
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!style="border:1px #AAA solid;padding:0.2em;" class="unsortable"|Symbol
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!style="border:1px #AAA solid;padding:0.2em;"|Name
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!style="border:1px #AAA solid;padding:0.2em;"|Type
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!style="border:1px #AAA solid;padding:0.2em;"|Size
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!style="border:1px #AAA solid;padding:0.2em;" class="unsortable"|Biome
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|-
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|style="border:1px #AAA solid;padding:0.2em;" |
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{| style="border-spacing: 0; background: black; padding: 0.2em; border: 1px solid white; margin: 0.1em auto"
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|-
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! style="font-size: 200%; background: #000;padding: 0.1em 0.25em;color:{{COLOR:6:0:0}};" |  d
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|}
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|style="border:1px #AAA solid;padding:0.2em;"|[[Dog]]
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|style="border:1px #AAA solid;padding:0.2em;"|Benign
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|style="border:1px #AAA solid;padding:0.2em;"|5
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|style="border:1px #AAA solid;padding:0.2em;"|None
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|-
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|style="border:1px #AAA solid;padding:0.2em;" |
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{| style="border-spacing: 0; background: black; padding: 0.2em; border: 1px solid white; margin: 0.1em auto"
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|-
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! style="font-size: 200%; background: #000; padding: 0.1em 0.25em;color:{{COLOR:0:0:1}};" |  r
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|}
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|style="border:1px #AAA solid;padding:0.2em;"|[[Large rat]]
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|style="border:1px #AAA solid;padding:0.2em;"|Neutral
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|style="border:1px #AAA solid;padding:0.2em;"|4
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|style="border:1px #AAA solid;padding:0.2em;"|Chasm
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|}
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=== Aquatic ===
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{| style="margin:1em 1em 1em 0;background:#F9F9F9;border:1px #AAA solid;border-collapse:collapse;" class="wikitable sortable"
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|- style="background:#F2F2F2;text-align:center;"
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!style="border:1px #AAA solid;padding:0.2em;" class="unsortable"|Symbol
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!style="border:1px #AAA solid;padding:0.2em;"|Name
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!style="border:1px #AAA solid;padding:0.2em;"|Type
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!style="border:1px #AAA solid;padding:0.2em;"|Size
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!style="border:1px #AAA solid;padding:0.2em;" class="unsortable"|Biome
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|-
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|style="border:1px #AAA solid;padding:0.2em;" |
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{| style="border-spacing: 0; background: black; padding: 0.2em; border: 1px solid white; margin: 0.1em auto"
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|-
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! style="font-size: 200%; background: #000;padding: 0.1em 0.25em;color:{{COLOR:1:0:0}};" |  c
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|}
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|style="border:1px #AAA solid;padding:0.2em;"|[[Coelacanth]]
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|style="border:1px #AAA solid;padding:0.2em;"|Benign
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|style="border:1px #AAA solid;padding:0.2em;"|6
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|style="border:1px #AAA solid;padding:0.2em;"|Tropical ocean
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|-
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|style="border:1px #AAA solid;padding:0.2em;" |
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{| style="border-spacing: 0; background: black; padding: 0.2em; border: 1px solid white; margin: 0.1em auto"
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|-
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! style="font-size: 200%; background: #000; padding: 0.1em 0.25em;color:{{COLOR:7:0:0}};" |  ~
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|}
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|style="border:1px #AAA solid;padding:0.2em;"|[[Eel conger|Eel, conger]]
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|style="border:1px #AAA solid;padding:0.2em;"|Benign
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|style="border:1px #AAA solid;padding:0.2em;"|7
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|style="border:1px #AAA solid;padding:0.2em;"|Arctic ocean, Temperate ocean
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|}
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=== Amphibious ===
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{| style="margin:1em 1em 1em 0;background:#F9F9F9;border:1px #AAA solid;border-collapse:collapse;" class="wikitable sortable"
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|- style="background:#F2F2F2;text-align:center;"
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!style="border:1px #AAA solid;padding:0.2em;" class="unsortable"|Symbol
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!style="border:1px #AAA solid;padding:0.2em;"|Name
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!style="border:1px #AAA solid;padding:0.2em;"|Type
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!style="border:1px #AAA solid;padding:0.2em;"|Size
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!style="border:1px #AAA solid;padding:0.2em;" class="unsortable"|Biome
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|-
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|style="border:1px #AAA solid;padding:0.2em;" |
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{| style="border-spacing: 0; background: black; padding: 0.2em; border: 1px solid white; margin: 0.1em auto"
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|-
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! style="font-size: 200%; background: #000;padding: 0.1em 0.25em;color:{{COLOR:7:0:0}};" |  C
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|}
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|style="border:1px #AAA solid;padding:0.2em;"|[[Cave crocodile]]
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|style="border:1px #AAA solid;padding:0.2em;"|Predator
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|style="border:1px #AAA solid;padding:0.2em;"|10
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|style="border:1px #AAA solid;padding:0.2em;"|Subterranean water
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|-
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|style="border:1px #AAA solid;padding:0.2em;" |
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{| style="border-spacing: 0; background: black; padding: 0.2em; border: 1px solid white; margin: 0.1em auto"
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|-
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! style="font-size: 200%; background: #000; padding: 0.1em 0.25em;color:{{COLOR:2:0:0}};" |  f
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|}
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|style="border:1px #AAA solid;padding:0.2em;"|[[Frogman]]
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|style="border:1px #AAA solid;padding:0.2em;"|Predator
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|style="border:1px #AAA solid;padding:0.2em;"|5
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|style="border:1px #AAA solid;padding:0.2em;"|Subterranean water
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|}
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--[[User:SeiferTim|SeiferTim]] 04:50, 8 March 2008 (EST)

Revision as of 09:50, 8 March 2008

Here kitty!

What are the triggers for semi- and megabeasts? Is there any way to encourage them? Runspotrun 16:47, 11 November 2007 (EST)

Pretty sure semimegabeasts don't attack in fortress mode. Don't know what triggers megabeasts in this version. On my current fort, I saw my first (a hydra) after 100 pop, don't know if that's the trigger or if it was just a coincidence.
Megabeasts used to attack based on your total fortress value. Semi-megabeasts are found in caves and such. --Nitem4re 17:23, 13 November 2007 (EST)

Reason for ordering?

Is there any particular reason why these aren't alphabetised? --Nunix 17:20, 5 March 2008 (EST)

You could put each group of creatures into a table, such as:
Name Biome
Dog Common domestic
Rhesus macaque Temperate shrubland, Temperate savanna, Temperate grassland

If this is acceptable, I can begin changing them to use this format (perhaps a template would be useful?). --SeiferTim 13:53, 7 March 2008 (EST)

Page Cleanup

Okay, so I've begun a mission to clean up the creatures page. So far, I made a couple of templates for the sortable table, and I've started converting the currently existing lists into tables. Phase II will be to alphabetize the tables. Would it make sense to change the way the creatures are categorized? It seems less helpful (at least to me) to have them grouped by Neutral, Benign, Evil, etc, then to group them by type or biome?

For example, would it be better to have the table look like this:

Natural

Symbol Name Type Size Biome
style="font-size: 200%; background: #000;padding: 0.1em 0.25em;color:Template:COLOR:6:0:0;" | d
Dog Benign 5 None
style="font-size: 200%; background: #000; padding: 0.1em 0.25em;color:Template:COLOR:0:0:1;" | r
Large rat Neutral 4 Chasm

Aquatic

Symbol Name Type Size Biome
style="font-size: 200%; background: #000;padding: 0.1em 0.25em;color:Template:COLOR:1:0:0;" | c
Coelacanth Benign 6 Tropical ocean
style="font-size: 200%; background: #000; padding: 0.1em 0.25em;color:Template:COLOR:7:0:0;" | ~
Eel, conger Benign 7 Arctic ocean, Temperate ocean

Amphibious

Symbol Name Type Size Biome
style="font-size: 200%; background: #000;padding: 0.1em 0.25em;color:Template:COLOR:7:0:0;" | C
Cave crocodile Predator 10 Subterranean water
style="font-size: 200%; background: #000; padding: 0.1em 0.25em;color:Template:COLOR:2:0:0;" | f
Frogman Predator 5 Subterranean water

--SeiferTim 04:50, 8 March 2008 (EST)

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