Editing 40d Talk:Ambush

::This is the sort of thing I meant by "still needs plenty of work"...namely clarifications in this case.

::This is the sort of thing I meant by "still needs plenty of work"...namely clarifications in this case.

::With War Dogs, I didn't mean that they were useless per se, and I actually do mention using them to detect ambushes earlier than normal.  However, in order to ''fight'', they have to get to the fight in the first place.  But if you're trying to cover something over a large area (such as a road you're building or a caravan route that goes to the far end of the map), you start to need a LOT of packs of dogs in various places to make sure that one is close enough.  So while you can use them just fine for spotting and for their usual base-defense duties, you need an insane number of dogs to include them in your anti-ambush reaction plans as ''combatants''.

::With War Dogs, I didn't mean that they were useless per se, and I actually do mention using them to detect ambushes earlier than normal.  However, in order to ''fight'', they have to get to the fight in the first place.  But if you're trying to cover something over a large area (such as a road you're building or a caravan route that goes to the far end of the map), you start to need a LOT of packs of dogs in various places to make sure that one is close enough.  So while you can use them just fine for spotting and for their usual base-defense duties, you need an insane number of dogs to include them in your anti-ambush reaction plans as ''combatants''.

::As for moats, yes, cutting off an area entirely will break the pathfinding AI, but that goes for ''any'' situation a moat is used.  What I meant by cutting off an area with moats is to use moats to cut off all access routes ''except the ones that go through your fortress''.  There's still a path to the area, but the only path involves going through your Main Entrance, and thus your Main Entrance's defenses.  In turn, the enemy can't use the access route as a "back door" because the moat is in the way. --[[User:LegacyCWAL|LegacyCWAL]] 21:34, 10 June 2008 (EDT)

::As for moats, yes, cutting off an area entirely will break the pathfinding AI, but that goes for ''any'' situation a moat is used.  What I meant by cutting off an area with moats is to use moats to cut off all access routes ''except the ones that go through your fortress''.  There's still a path to the area, but the only path involves going through your Main Entrance, and thus your Main Entrance's defenses.  In turn, the enemy can't use the access route as a "back door" because the moat is in the way. --[[User:LegacyCWAL|LegacyCWAL]] 21:34, 10 June 2008 (EDT)

:::Oh right, I guess that would work fairly well. A tip for noobs; If a goblin raid appears, draft the whole population into the military and station them in the deepest part of your fortress. This work's pretty well as an alternative to watching all of your peasants die. By the way, is there a way of stopping all my fortress guards from running straight into the battlefield and getting their butts kicked? Or should I just not appoint a Sheriff at all. Does it matter? --[[User:AlexFili|AlexFili]] 03:43, 11 June 2008 (EDT)

:::Oh right, I guess that would work fairly well. A tip for noobs; If a goblin raid appears, draft the whole population into the military and station them in the deepest part of your fortress. This work's pretty well as an alternative to watching all of your peasants die. By the way, is there a way of stopping all my fortress guards from running straight into the battlefield and getting their butts kicked? Or should I just not appoint a Sheriff at all. Does it matter? --[[User:AlexFili|AlexFili]] 03:43, 11 June 2008 (EDT)