Editing 40d Talk:Native platinum

== Found as veins? ==

Although I've found native platinum in small clusters quite a few times, on my current fortress map I've found native platinum in small and average sized veins within dolomite and magnetite more than once. So, does native platinum occur as veins as well? Could someone conform this? I don't think I'm gonna start a new fortress for some time. Think about all those riches... [[User:Noctis|Noctis]] 03:22, 11 November 2007 (EST)

: Platinum can occur in veins inside bodies of [[magnetite]] or [[olivine]].  Magnetite is found pretty much anywhere, olivine is found in [[gabbro]]. --[[User:JT|JT]] 07:02, 11 November 2007 (EST)

:: Thanks! I've corrected the article. [[User:Noctis|Noctis]] 10:40, 21 November 2007 (EST)

== Mason ==
It seems any mason item can be made from platinum nuggets? I happen to be the "proud" owner of a native platinum floodgate and a native platinum armor stand *grr*. On the other hand I fail to make crafts from platinum nuggets (use in z/stone allowed,stonecrafter available..) --[[User:Koltom|Koltom]] 12:37, 11 February 2008 (EST)
     
:Native platinum is an economic stone.  If it is specifically enabled in the "Stone" menu, it can be used by masons and stone crafters.  This holds true for all economic stones.  However, masons and stone crafters use whatever rock is closest to them when they begin their job.  In most cases this is the rock closest to the workshop.  [[User:Bouchart|Bouchart]] 18:49, 11 February 2008 (EST)

::Look at it this way - when the sherriff starts whinging about needing an armour stand, you have one on standby to boost his room wealth --[[User:Frostedfire|Frostedfire]] 19:05, 11 February 2008 (EST)

== interesting results ==

mason uses platinum ore for

*armor stand
*coffer
*flood gate

mason does not use platinum ore for

*cabinets

--[[User:Koltom|Koltom]] 16:19, 22 February 2008 (EST)
:You say it can't be used for crafts? There is nothing in raw data to distinguish it from other types of stone... [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 19:24, 22 February 2008 (EST)

::Well, i had my crafter locked in with 3 platinum nuggets, allowed in z-stone screen, told him to make rock crafts, mugs... nothing happened, showed 'no job'. I unlocked the door, off he goes picking up the next shale. Same with the mason, as soon as i canceled the cabinet he picked up platin and made the coffer next in line. Now you can't prove that way that it's not possible, who knows whats in the mind of a dwarf..--[[User:Koltom|Koltom]] 20:02, 23 February 2008 (EST)
::: I just tried it again, it worked, on mugs at least. Oh well..sorry. --[[User:Koltom|Koltom]] 20:37, 23 February 2008 (EST)
::: now it worked with "true" crafts too. Lets revisit the cabinet.. --[[User:Koltom|Koltom]] 19:28, 8 March 2008 (EST)

== Magma-safe? ==

Are you sure [[platinum]] is [[magma-safe]]?  Neither the platinum article nor the magma-safe article list it as such. --[[User:LegacyCWAL|LegacyCWAL]] 12:30, 1 March 2009 (EST)

::You are mistaken. Both of the articles you cited mention that platinum is magma safe. [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 17:45, 1 March 2009 (EST)

:::What?  But...*looks*...aw, crap.  I can't believe I managed to miss that =( --[[User:LegacyCWAL|LegacyCWAL]] 19:26, 1 March 2009 (EST)

:Looking at the raw data, it looks to be so.  But I'm not sure. Never tested it.  Don't have any magma distribution systems in my fort yet.  Working on that now.  But I hit some copper, and followed that vein into infinity.  Going to take a while to check for leaks. --[[User:Zchris13|Zchris13]] 16:58, 1 March 2009 (EST)


== Veins/clusters ==
I found a small cluster (7 tiles) of native platinum, in the middle of an olivine deposit. Only mod used was reveal. Fixing. [[User:Decius|Decius]] 19:45, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
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 :: Thanks! I've corrected the article. [[User:Noctis|Noctis]] 10:40, 21 November 2007 (EST)
-: I have found a native platinum vein (a huge one) near but not touching a magnetite deposit. Is this a bug, or can Platinum be found just laying around in Claystone? I can post a screenshot if proof is needed. --[[User:DarthCloakedDwarf|DarthCloakedDwarf]] 21:24, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
-::See my comment at the bottom of the talk page - if you dig far enough past the end of the vein, you will run into a magnetite cluster (and likely find even more platinum). --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 14:16, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
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 == Veins/clusters ==
 I found a small cluster (7 tiles) of native platinum, in the middle of an olivine deposit. Only mod used was reveal. Fixing. [[User:Decius|Decius]] 19:45, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
-:I made a similar "mistake" - but I think this is valid.  The template info comes from the RAW's - how the relationship between a stone and ore is defined in the game files.  And for olivine, those are defined only as veins. But I've seen small clusters in olivine too often - something else has to be going on. Perhaps the olivine is somehow "inheriting" the small clusters from the parent gabbro layer - dunno, might be considered a bug, but it's there, and has been witnessed too many times to discount. --[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 22:20, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
-::And there was no chromite present? If you want to list behavior that conflicts with raw data, it should be listed as a bug rather than normal. Also, a screenshot would be good. [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 22:30, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
-:::I've observed this myself - in fact, I've '''never''' seen a native platinum vein within olivine, only small clusters, and even when there is no chromite present. It occurs as veins just fine within magnetite, of course. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 23:27, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
-::::Its getting better - i have a vein of 43 native plat. in limestone. The next cluster south is bauxite 10 tiles away and north magnetite 10 tiles away. Both big clusters have the usual oval shape, no other veins or even gems to distort the placing pattern are present. Unmodded DF, except for cat bug and removed benign from chasm creatures. So if we want to go by the raws we would have to argue that the vein got misplaced from the north cluster it belongs in. Which has a small cluster of 5 plat btw... --[[User:Birthright|Birthright]] 10:46, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
-:::::I've seen native platinum veins extend far beyond their magnetite clusters, though there's always a small gap in the vein (3-4 tiles or so) right at the edge of the magnetite. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 15:28, 25 August 2009 (UTC)