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Please, please help. [[User:Midna|Midna]] 23:10, 6 May 2008 (EDT)
 
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:Where's the thorax? Your solen's legs are connected to "TX", which I guess is the thorax, but nothing is defined with that ID that I see. [[User:Anydwarf|Anydwarf]] 23:30, 6 May 2008 (EDT)

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One of my founding 7 dwarves got a mood. after acquiring one each of 3 of the 4 things he screamed for, he needed only "rough gems". He asked for crystal glass: I made it for him and he acquired it. He got the rock and wood(?) on his own, leaving only the "rough gems"... however, he just sat there screaming for them. I assumed he wanted gems I didn't have at this point, and In a moment of frustration decided to backup the save and abuse the reaction system to produce /all/ the gems. however, producing 3 each of all rough gems, (and large gems, and cut gems, and gem blocks), he still just sits there screaming. I'm wondering if there may be a bug where a dwarf wants something that doesn't actually exist, either that or he didn't notice the gems sitting in the stockpile. Either way, it seems buggy. I'm open to suggestions. FWIW, the jeweler's workshop can see the rough gems to cut them. :( --Vae 08:00, 27 November 2007 (EDT)

There was a temporary workaround mentioned on the forums. If you have a save before that dwarf went for the glass - forbid all your green, clear and crystal glass, get some gems, wait for that dwarf to haul all gems and then reclaim the glass. I wonder if forbidding the already hauled glass via t, scroll down,f can have any effect? (it works with built beds and wells) --Another 08:22, 27 November 2007 (EST)
does that mean it was the fact that he couldn't find any of the remaining items that he stopped looking? the t - f thing almost works ... it de-tasks them ... but apparently has no effect as the dwarf just immediately re-tasked them, despite being forbidden. Perhaps a bug. anyway... i'm gonna move back a few versions... i've kept all my saves in SVN :) --Vae 10:20, 27 November 2007 (EDT)
There probably is a bug when raw glass counts for raw gems in some occasions and do not in others while collecting materials for mood and checking already collected to determine the next to collect. Usually forbidding items that are TSK cansels their 'tasked' state along with the corresponding job. I cannot guarantee that a new bug won't be created in this process. Also try to forbid the whole workshop via d - f--Another 10:34, 27 November 2007 (EST)

Could it be that the 'floating bug' is simply one space that no channel was dug to? I had this once, but corrected it with just making the stuck dwarf miner and set the space to be made into channel.

When building a set of pumps I dug out a channel above the solid square of a pump. The rock from the square and the dwarf who dug it out were then stuck in the air until I removed the pump below them. Then the Dwarf fell and wandered off but the rock was still hovering. I think I built a floor from that rock and then dug it out and that worked, but that doesn't make much sense because no one would've been able to get to that square to get the rock to build with. Unless rocks on a square can be used to build something with 0 hauling (ie. you don't have to touch them at all you can just build directly) I may have misremembered that part. --Lacero 04:08, 2 November 2007 (EDT)

Digging: From the old version, dwarves preferred to dig from left to right, and I suspect the "digging from the far end" thing is where that comes from.


Hehe, Adventure mode: "The sturgeon has drowned". My buddies attacked it and it probably lost it's gills or something. Kinda like suffocating cause you got no lungs. Which was also funny the first time I saw it. HeckRuler 15:33, 1 November 2007 (EDT)

Could this be because when a sturgeon is taken out of water, and it basically "drowns" in the oxygen? Schm0 15:35, 1 November 2007 (EDT)

Also, is there anyway to clean blood/vomit/water off your gear in adventure mode? Will dwarves clean themselves in fortress mode? I was never too sharp on how the cleaning job worked. HeckRuler 15:33, 1 November 2007 (EDT)

Now with a new version released, I think this page needs cleaning or at least separating bugs in old version from the bugs left in the current version. --Mizipzor 17:16, 1 November 2007 (EDT)

I disagree. The old version is old. Any old bugs that linger are still bugs. HeckRuler 13:18, 2 November 2007 (EDT)

I seem to be having troubles getting dwarves to work with stockpiles like they used to. They refuse to move these seeds, despite the seeds not being in a stockpile and there being a stockpile designated for seeds. My anvil has sat outside for half a month now despite there being a designated spot specifically for anvils one level down. Is Z-axis messing with dwarf perception of customized stockpiles? Hmm. Kefkakrazy 23:12, 1 November 2007 (EDT)

I've noticed--not tried to repro--that a custom stockpile for seeds will attract other Food items until a general Food stockpile is created. My first fort did this, plump helmets didn't get harvested until I created said Food pile, and only after they moved barrels of meat OUT of the seed stockpile.--Draco18s 23:22, 1 November 2007 (EDT)
I think that blood disappearance is, as noted in Infinite Blood, buggered. I've had a few raccoons get eaten by my dogs and there's STILL blood, months later. It's possible that custom stocks got buggered too. Kefkakrazy 00:18, 2 November 2007 (EDT)
Seeds not going to a seed stockpile appears to have been fixed as of v 0.27.169.33a. That is, I've got seeds going to the correct stockpile now. Huzzah! --Surma 01:16, 2 November 2007 (EDT)
I upgraded versions and I'm still having troubles with custom stockpiles. Either dwarves are just too busy to do the hauling or customized stockpiles are not being done properly.Kefkakrazy 03:52, 2 November 2007 (EDT)
I had problems with stockpiles, there's a new options at the bottom for "Additional Options" which provides Allow Plant/Animal and Allow Non-Plant/Animal - if either of these are turned off, stuff doesn't get moved. Simple mistake, caused 4 of my stockpiles to be left empty for half year. Anyone else had this problem? Have you checked for it? --Markavian

I'm not sure if this is a bug. My graveyard is outside where my hunter was laid down and rotted. He was then put in a minty fresh coffin inside. Miasma started pouring out after a while. I don't remember this happening in the previous version, but even so. It's not like they DON'T rot just because they got stuffed in a coffin in time. I also kinda assumed that coffins are sealed. Bug or no? HeckRuler 13:18, 2 November 2007 (EDT)

I'm thinking that the humans allowing you to build a fortress inside of their cities would be considered a bug. --Ikkonoishi 23:28, 3 November 2007 (EDT)

Adding usernames to main page

People, shall we try to keep the discussions on the discussion page and on the article page only information? I see a lot of user tags, etc on the article page. This clutters the page a bit. What do you guys think? I think we should strive for a reduction of usernames on the article pages, as that is nicer to look at. --Soyweiser 11:20, 2 November 2007 (EDT)

hmmm. Meh. It's not an encyclopedia, it's a bug report. This page at least. Theoretically, Toady could ask us about a bug we encountered. Known bugs & issues are things that are broken and are probably going to stay broken so people should avoid them. Which made sence when it was a year since the last release. But currently it's more dynamic. Maybe we should rename this page to "Bug Report" HeckRuler 13:18, 2 November 2007 (EDT)

Picky Elves?

The elves will not trade for Orthoclase or Gabbro rock crafts because the crafts were once alive, although gabbro and orthoclase are igneous rocks that form by the cooling of magma and were never actually alive. Hence, it's a bug.

Can someone confirm this? Its probably just that the items in question had blood splatters. --Karlito 20:14, 2 December 2007 (EST)

Burning Corpses

I found a bug when you burn a corpse in adventure mode. Whenever i put a corpse near a tree and light the tree on fire, the corpse eventually gets burnt to just bones, but for some reason i get 2 sets of bones. For example a human would give my skull, bones(7), skull, bones(7). Diabl0658 17:54, 8 December 2007 (EST)

Outdoor Pathways

I was trading with the human caravan and a minute or two after I finished a goblin army showed up on the map. Not being too worried I set the order for all dwarves to stay indoors. Unfortunately I had failed to notice that my trade depot, which was just outside my front gate dug into a little cove in the side of the mountain, was being registered as "inside" even though the dwarves had to go outside to get there. They didn't cancel the jobs to haul the items in the depot, causing them to be slaughtered by the goblin army. Is this a bug? Also, when I set the order for them to stay inside they seem to dance around the entrance canceling jobs and then getting them again over and over. Thanks. Rotinaj

Body part overload

For some reason, the body part system seems to be blown. I can't get it to work for some reason--I'm modding a certain race in known as the solen, in a nod to Ultima Online. The parts appear just fine on the adventure checkup, and aren't damaged. But when I start adventure mode, I immediately fall down. On top of this, my solen is shown with a flashing red + sign on top of it as if it was badly hurt. But, as previously stated, I check and I see no injuries. Moving on the overworld 'fixes' this, but just while travelling. When I actually enter the normal map, the solen just falls down again. I've apparently come close to isolating the problem, but interestingly enough, the arachnid (from the modding tutorial) works perfectly and is in the same file as the solen body definitions. I made new entity, body, and creature files for both races. The contents are as follows:

body_solen.txt:

Template:Game Data

creature_solen.txt:

Template:Game Data

entity_solen.txt:

Template:Game Data

...And that's it. I'm really frustrated with this; notice how the Solen section of body parts is fairly simple--I cut out most of it in an attempt to fix the problem. I thought it was because of the massive number of body parts, but since the arachnid now has more and works fine, I don't think this is the case. I'm utterly baffled.


Please, please help. Midna 23:10, 6 May 2008 (EDT)

Where's the thorax? Your solen's legs are connected to "TX", which I guess is the thorax, but nothing is defined with that ID that I see. Anydwarf 23:30, 6 May 2008 (EDT)