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== Can't move [[:File:Fäden.png]] ==
  
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== Version namespace links ==
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It's used on [[cv:thread]], but I can't seem to move it to a better title. I think it's because of the <s>accent</s> umlaut - is there any way you can change its name manually in the database? ([[Wikipedia:mw:Manual:MoveBatch.php|This maintenance script]] should do the trick, but it requires a little setup and it might run into the same problem.) &mdash;[[User:Lethosor|<span style="color:#074">Lethosor</span>]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|<span style="color:#092">talk</span>]]) 19:17, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
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: I missed this. Where should this be moved to? I can give the script a try --[[User:Briess|Briess]] ([[User talk:Briess|talk]]) 20:35, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
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::I was thinking something like [[:f:thread.png]] or [[:f:rope reed fiber thread.png]] would work. If not, I can always reupload it and delete the original (assuming that works). &mdash;[[User:Lethosor|<span style="color:#074">Lethosor</span>]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|<span style="color:#092">talk</span>]]) 20:52, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
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::: Oops, that was my file. I guess i should take it as reminder to label files something more accessible when they're intended for public use and not just my own stuff. --[[User:Larix|Larix]] ([[User talk:Larix|talk]]) 14:31, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
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::: Can't get the move to work. I'll have to play with the DB if I want to do that. --[[User:Briess|Briess]] ([[User talk:Briess|talk]]) 03:39, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
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:::: Might be because I already moved it. :) (Can't remember where at the moment, but it's on [[thread]]). &mdash;[[User:Lethosor|<span style="color:#074">Lethosor</span>]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|<span style="color:#092">talk</span>]]) 03:44, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
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::::: Derp. --[[User:Briess|Briess]] ([[User talk:Briess|talk]]) 05:49, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
  
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It appears that the recent update has caused version pages to link back to mainspace, instead of linking within their own version namespace automatically. For example, [[40d:Potash_maker]] links to [[Potash]], while [[40d:Potash]] is the expected link. --[[User:Loci|Loci]] ([[User talk:Loci|talk]]) 15:04, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
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== Announcements "NEW" icon ==
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: Looks like you're correct.  I'll have to investigate and see what the fix is. --[[User:Briess|Briess]] ([[User talk:Briess|talk]]) 20:17, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
 
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:: This has been fixed. --[[User:Briess|Briess]] ([[User talk:Briess|talk]]) 03:16, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
 
  
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==Double redirects to sections==
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Can you please add an ID attribute to the red "NEW" message in the sidebar, so I can make it hidden? Thanks {{User:Latias1290/Sig/src|13:20|March 23, 2014}}
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Though the wiki software is supposed to handle double redirects, it appears to fail when the redirect is to a subsection of a page -- see [[calm]], for instance. --[[User:Zzedar|Zzedar]] ([[User talk:Zzedar|talk]]) 03:40, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
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:Removed it, since it's clearly not "new" anymore. &mdash;[[User:Lethosor|<span style="color:#074">Lethosor</span>]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|<span style="color:#092">talk</span>]]) 15:55, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
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: Interesting.  I will investigate, thanks for the report. --[[User:Briess|Briess]] ([[User talk:Briess|talk]]) 03:41, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
 
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:: Looking into it a bit more, it seems there are a lot of double redirects that don't work properly, even when they're not to subsections; [[fishing]], for instance.--[[User:Zzedar|Zzedar]] ([[User talk:Zzedar|talk]]) 17:17, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
 
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::: If I remember correctly, Loci pointed that out, but the original discussion was archived. It's probably a problem with the cv: alias (as [http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=Fishing&oldid=183520 this revision] on Fishing redirects correctly). --{{User:Lethosor/sig}} 17:25, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
 
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:::: That's been my hunch so far, but I haven't had enough time to fully flesh out the problem just yet.  Please keep me posted if y'all find any other edge cases. --[[User:Briess|Briess]] ([[User talk:Briess|talk]]) 17:27, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
 
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::::: [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgNamespaceAliases This manual page] seems to be relevant. I just tested this scenario on another wiki (1.20.2) and ran into the exact same situation (with a double redirect from page -> foo:page -> foo:page2 failing). This may be a problem with MediaWiki as opposed to this specific namespace scheme (although MediaWiki seems to discourage double redirects, according to [[Special:DoubleRedirects]]). I'll try testing on 1.20.3 next, but it probably produces the same result. --{{User:Lethosor/sig}} 17:41, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
 
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::::: Actually, '''no''' double redirects seem to resolve, according to my tests, even in the same namespace. --{{User:Lethosor/sig}} 17:43, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
 
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::::: [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Double_redirects]] seems to state this clearly. I'm not sure if there is a workaround, or what it would be. --{{User:Lethosor/sig}} 17:46, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
 
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:::::: https://gist.github.com/locriani/e43abff805d5cdd6c4ac is the current settings we use (as well as the hack to allow in-namespace redirect) --[[User:Briess|Briess]] ([[User talk:Briess|talk]]) 17:49, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
 
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::::::: There are a few that work; [[milking]] does, for instance. Actually, I did some testing: making a dummy edit to the first redirect seems to fix the problem -- I deleted a space from [[wrestler]], and now it works where it didn't before. However, null edits do ''not'' work. '''Update''': [http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=Trigger&diff=183538&oldid=76624 this change] fixed the trigger redirect.--[[User:Zzedar|Zzedar]] ([[User talk:Zzedar|talk]]) 17:54, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
 
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::::::: Dang it, I bet I know what's causing it then.  There are probably bad entries in the links table,and I may have to forcibly refresh the entire table. --[[User:Briess|Briess]] ([[User talk:Briess|talk]]) 18:25, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
 
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::::: Completely late here, but I was wrong about the redirect limit, which you probably figured out ([http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgMaxRedirects]). --{{User:Lethosor/sig}} 01:43, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
 
  
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Ok, I've completely rebuilt the links and redirect tables, and thing should be  working as expected now, although I still need to figure out the issue causing links to not stay within the namespace.  If not, let me know! --[[User:Briess|Briess]] ([[User talk:Briess|talk]]) 19:17, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
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== [[:File:Old0c3822.png]] ==
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: Nope, still not working -- see [[marksman]], for instance. --[[User:Zzedar|Zzedar]] ([[User talk:Zzedar|talk]]) 19:44, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
 
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:: Well, dang it.  Going to keep digging. --[[User:Briess|Briess]] ([[User talk:Briess|talk]]) 19:46, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
 
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::: Ok, looks like it's a bug in MediaWiki that broke max redirects behavior sometime in version 1.20.x and there is not yet a fix.  I will continue to look for a way to resolve it on our end --[[User:Briess|Briess]] ([[User talk:Briess|talk]]) 19:55, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
 
  
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== Rating script ==
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This file is missing, but is used on {{tl|old}} and has a history page: [https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=File:Old0c3822.png&action=history]. Any idea what happened to it? (Other files appear to be unaffected.) &mdash;[[User:Lethosor|<span style="color:#074">Lethosor</span>]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|<span style="color:#092">talk</span>]]) 20:16, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
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:No idea. Going to rebuild images now then --[[User:Briess|Briess]] ([[User talk:Briess|talk]]) 20:30, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
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::And it's back after a rebuild --[[User:Briess|Briess]] ([[User talk:Briess|talk]]) 20:30, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
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::Rebuilding images is now a cronjob that will run every 30 minutes on dfaux1 as well now --[[User:Briess|Briess]] ([[User talk:Briess|talk]]) 20:32, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
  
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A few problems with the rating script seem to have popped up with the new software (these are probably more related to [[User:Emi]], but you seem to be more active at the moment):
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== Creature token page seems to be causing your server trouble ==
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* <code>jsMsg()</code> now fades out after a few seconds, preventing the automatic tests from completing in a few cases
 
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* Clicking a checkbox propagates up to the message box, causing it to fade out and preventing any further action (and showing it again with <code>$("#mw-notification-area").show()</code> doesn't work, because the text is cleared when it disappears).
 
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The easiest solution here is probably to display the interface somewhere else, instead of using the notification system.
 
  
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For the time being, I can rate articles manually, but it would be nice if someone could look into this. --{{User:Lethosor/sig}} 14:51, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
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http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2012:Creature_token comes up with a completely blank (like, about:blank blank) for me and pretty much everyone else I've asked about it. I can get the contents by pulling them from google's cache, but the site itself seems to refuse to let you load it. From experience as a webhost, this generally means that the page has encountered a critical error in its scripting, which it will dump in the error log instead of reporting to the user, for security reasons. I would suggest scouring your error logs. Don't know why this particular page is causing issues. [[Special:Contributions/74.67.17.69|74.67.17.69]] 07:23, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
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:I'll poke Emily when she gets back from vacation this weekend and we'll figure out a better way to do it. --[[User:Briess|Briess]] ([[User talk:Briess|talk]]) 18:37, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
 
  
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== Parser Functions ==
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Probably a rendering time issue - the other versions load fine, but v0.31 takes the longest (I'm pretty sure the v0.34 page is the largest). Using action=raw also works. &mdash;[[User:Lethosor|<span style="color:#074">Lethosor</span>]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|<span style="color:#092">talk</span>]]) 10:43, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
  
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A recent change seems to have caused them to stop working (but they're still listed at [[Special:Version]]). See [[DF2012:Giant lion]] --{{User:Lethosor/sig}} 19:24, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
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Okay, disabling AutoRedirect fixed this, so I'm currently disabling pieces of it to see what's causing the problem. &mdash;[[User:Lethosor|<span style="color:#074">Lethosor</span>]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|<span style="color:#092">talk</span>]]) 19:41, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
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: Oops, I forgot to clone the repo into one of the servers.  Doing that now. --[[User:Briess|Briess]] ([[User talk:Briess|talk]]) 19:27, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
 
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:: Fixed.  Good catch! --[[User:Briess|Briess]] ([[User talk:Briess|talk]]) 19:29, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
 
  
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== Categorization by template ==
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It appears that the TitleIsAlwaysKnown is the problem, presumably because it takes a lot of time to render on a large page like [[creature token]]. Unfortunately, this is the hook that makes links and searching work. I'll try making the extension skip section links, since they account for most of the links in that article and don't need to be handled at all. &mdash;[[User:Lethosor|<span style="color:#074">Lethosor</span>]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|<span style="color:#092">talk</span>]]) 19:48, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
  
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The recent changes briefly made categorization by template work correctly. Then, another change broke it again. [[:Category:DF2012:Flying]] now includes every creature page, instead of properly determining flying status from the raws. This new breakage seemed to happen about the time you resolved the parser function bug (above). --[[User:Loci|Loci]] ([[User talk:Loci|talk]]) 20:48, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
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All right, that seems to have worked. The render time is back down to 1.2 seconds, which is pretty good for such a long page. &mdash;[[User:Lethosor|<span style="color:#074">Lethosor</span>]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|<span style="color:#092">talk</span>]]) 20:11, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
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: :psyduck: --[[User:Briess|Briess]] ([[User talk:Briess|talk]]) 20:49, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
 
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: I'm going to try rebuilding ALL THE THINGS again, momentarily. --[[User:Briess|Briess]] ([[User talk:Briess|talk]]) 20:50, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
 
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::ALL THE THINGS rebuilt. --[[User:Briess|Briess]] ([[User talk:Briess|talk]]) 21:06, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
 
  
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== Random pages ==
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Awesome, glad I could help. [[Special:Contributions/2604:6000:FB03:4601:BE5F:F4FF:FE3B:6A61|2604:6000:FB03:4601:BE5F:F4FF:FE3B:6A61]] 16:04, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
  
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It looks like $wgExtraRandompageSQL was removed in 1.19 ([http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/$wgExtraRandompageSQL]). The suggested option seems to be adding a hook, as shown [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks/SpecialRandomGetRandomTitle here], but it's not clear if it can be defined outside of an extension (which might be easier). --{{User:Lethosor/sig}} 01:37, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
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== MWExceptions ==
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: Yep, another thing on my list.  Are you any good at php >.>  I'm trying to figure out another issue and I usually avoid PHP at all costs --[[User:Briess|Briess]] ([[User talk:Briess|talk]]) 01:38, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
 
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::This looks like it works (at least for me in LocalSettings.php):
 
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<pre>
 
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function randtitle(&$randstr, &$isRedir, &$namespaces, &$extra, &$title){
 
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Greycat is having problems with editing (may be proxy-related again): http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=139510.0 &mdash;[[User:Lethosor|<span style="color:#074">Lethosor</span>]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|<span style="color:#092">talk</span>]]) 11:04, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
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</pre>--{{User:Lethosor/sig}} 01:51, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
 
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Perfect, I'll steal that. Right now I'm trying to figure out what hack we used to keep links within namespaces. :/ --[[User:Briess|Briess]] ([[User talk:Briess|talk]]) 01:52, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
 
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:: Implemented. --[[User:Briess|Briess]] ([[User talk:Briess|talk]]) 03:16, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
 
  
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==Note==
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== Bot is removing av template ==
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[2f2c73a7] 2013-04-14 10:08:41: Fatal exception of type MWException
 
  
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[65465d61] 2013-04-14 10:10:19: Fatal exception of type MWException
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[http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=DF2014:Puddingstone&diff=204589&oldid=203339 this edit is an example]. Just letting you know. [[User:Brightgalrs|Brightgalrs]] ([[User talk:Brightgalrs|talk]]) 19:39, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
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:And it's deleting the stonelookup template too. [http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=DF2014:Puddingstone&diff=204589&oldid=203339 example]. [[User:Brightgalrs|Brightgalrs]] ([[User talk:Brightgalrs|talk]]) 19:41, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
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::It looks like it searched for "<nowiki>{{quality|.*}}</nowiki>" when doing the "remove quality" step, which ended up matching way too much. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] ([[User talk:Quietust|talk]]) 21:45, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
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:::Working on a way to revert those using the bot but it will take a bit. --[[User:Briess|Briess]] ([[User talk:Briess|talk]]) 22:06, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
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::::I'll get them. I've been meaning to find an excuse to use AWB here. Cheers [[User:Brightgalrs|Brightgalrs]] ([[User talk:Brightgalrs|talk]]) 19:47, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
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:::::Awesome. Thanks! --[[User:Briess|Briess]] ([[User talk:Briess|talk]]) 00:15, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
  
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Internal error
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== Server woes ==
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Jump to: navigation, search
 
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[14d33bba] 2013-04-14 10:09:59: Fatal exception of type MWException
 
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: Fixed --[[User:Briess|Briess]] ([[User talk:Briess|talk]]) 10:42, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
 
  
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== Upload link error ==
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I can't insert {{tl|DF2014 plants/trees}} into {{tl|DF2014 plants}}; the server times out/fails to respond each time I try.--[[User:Loci|Loci]] ([[User talk:Loci|talk]]) 19:15, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
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: I'll take a look. --[[User:Briess|Briess]] ([[User talk:Briess|talk]]) 22:05, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
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:: I'm guessing this is because AutoRedirect takes more time to render links to pages that don't exist, since it checks every versioned namespace before determining that a page doesn't exist. I'm not sure how to fix this yet, but it seems to me that either disabling the additional namespace checks in the template namespace or only enabling them in the main namespace could work. Any better ideas? &mdash;[[User:Lethosor|<span style="color:#074">Lethosor</span>]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|<span style="color:#092">talk</span>]]) 01:25, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
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::: I think it makes sense to only have the checks happen in the main namespace. We can discuss more on github if you want. --[[User:Briess|Briess]] ([[User talk:Briess|talk]]) 17:27, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
  
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This happens:<br />
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== Cannot confirm email address ==
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[[File:Upload bug.png]]<br />
 
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I'm unsure of the cause; it sometimes happens when I load a page and sometimes doesn't, and it even changes between loads of the same page. Something similar happens with tables of contents: where it should say "contents", it instead says "<toc>" (the table of contents for your talk page looks that way to me right now, though I suspect it'll fix itself after I submit this comment, since null edits to pages with this problem seem to fix it for that page).--[[User:Zzedar|Zzedar]] ([[User talk:Zzedar|talk]]) 18:07, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
 
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:Hrm, I'll investigate. --[[User:Briess|Briess]] ([[User talk:Briess|talk]]) 18:11, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
 
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::Should be fixed now.  Thanks for the heads up. --[[User:Briess|Briess]] ([[User talk:Briess|talk]]) 18:14, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
 
  
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It seems to be happening again (right now it's usually just &lt;searchsuggest-search&gt; in the search box). It seems to happen least often on dfweb3. --{{User:Lethosor/sig}} 23:56, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
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[http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=140530.0#msg5470497 It's been mentioned on the forum], and I thought I'd let you know here, since I see it too.
  
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== Anonymous editing ==
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When I went to the page to start the confirmation process, I was told the email had already been sent. After waiting quite a while without anything, I decided to ask for another email, and that's when I encountered this error:
  
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I noticed that attempting to edit pages anonymously produces the following error:
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:Dwarf Fortress Wiki could not send your confirmation mail. Please check your e-mail address for invalid characters.
  
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You do not have permission to edit this page, for the following reason:  
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:Mailer returned: Unknown error in PHP's mail() function.
  
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You must confirm your e-mail address before editing pages. Please set and validate your e-mail address through your user preferences.
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Hopefully this will be an easy fix, sorry I don't have anything more specific for you to follow up on. —[[User:Lue|Lue]] ([[User talk:Lue|talk]]) 00:00, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
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:Thanks for the heads up. I'm aware of the issue but have not had the time yet to diagnose and fix - I am planning on spending some time with it this upcoming week. --[[User:Briess|Briess]] ([[User talk:Briess|talk]]) 05:33, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
  
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[[Special:ListGroupRights]] claims (all) users have the edit permission. Was this change intentional? --[[User:Loci|Loci]] ([[User talk:Loci|talk]]) 19:22, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
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Still broken. [[User:Atheistcanuck|Atheistcanuck]] ([[User talk:Atheistcanuck|talk]]) 21:38, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
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: It was not.  Let me fix. --[[User:Briess|Briess]] ([[User talk:Briess|talk]]) 19:22, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
 
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:: Fixed. --[[User:Briess|Briess]] ([[User talk:Briess|talk]]) 19:25, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
 
  
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== Script reloading error ==
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== Adventure mode redirect ==
  
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Was there a change made to the cloudflare settings recently? Because the cloudflare script is suddenly slowing things down a lot and tries to frequently reload the page or something.--[[User:Zzedar|Zzedar]] ([[User talk:Zzedar|talk]]) 02:11, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
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For some reason [[adventure mode]] redirects to the 0.34.11 adventurer mode page, so I went to see if I could change this. Apparently, it contains a redirect to [[adventurer mode]], which redirects to the DF2014 page. I'm not quite sure what's going on here, so I thought I should bring this up. It's perhaps related to why the [[adventure mode]] links in [[DF2014:Adventure mode quick start]] are red, which is why I was looking into it in the first place. —[[User:Lue|Lue]] ([[User talk:Lue|talk]]) 23:07, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
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: Interesting. I'll turn it off. --[[User:Briess|Briess]] ([[User talk:Briess|talk]]) 02:25, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
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:This should be fixed now. &mdash;[[User:Lethosor|<span style="color:#074">Lethosor</span>]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|<span style="color:#092">talk</span>]]) 01:12, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
  
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== Rating script ==
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== BriessBot ==
  
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[http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=DF2012%3ACoyote&diff=184158&oldid=180366 It works!] <sub>Somewhat -- it doesn't have any validation/suggestions, but it lets you rate articles</sub>. --{{User:Lethosor/sig}} 01:08, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
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Something is fishy with your unrating script. http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=DF2014:Dolomite&diff=204130&oldid=202335 [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] ([[User talk:VengefulDonut|talk]]) 22:07, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
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: Derp. I'll have to look into fixing this. Although it may be easier to just fix it manually? Oh never mind there are A BAZILLION PAGES. --[[User:Briess|Briess]] ([[User talk:Briess|talk]]) 17:23, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
  
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== Variable Extension ==
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== Missing image ==
  
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Sorry to bother you again, but could we have the [[wikipedia:mw:Extension:Variables|Variables extension]] installed? I'm trying to cut down on expensive parser functions (notably <code>#ifexists</code>) by storing the results in variables instead. Thanks --{{User:Lethosor/sig}} 23:06, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
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[[:File:Seed0volcano.png]] (reported at [[Talk:Seed archive]]). &mdash;[[User:Lethosor|<span style="color:#074">Lethosor</span>]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|<span style="color:#092">talk</span>]]) 19:17, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
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: Not a bother at all. I can't do it right now (maybe not for a few days), but I'll look into it. --[[User:Briess|Briess]] ([[User talk:Briess|talk]]) 18:50, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
 
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:: Thanks. It's one of the things I was trying out in my experimental version template (it reduced the calls to 5, from about 30), so being able to use it will definitely help. :) --{{User:Lethosor/sig}} 18:53, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
 
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::: The extension is now live. --[[User:Briess|Briess]] ([[User talk:Briess|talk]]) 01:53, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
 
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:::: Great! I have the [[User:Lethosor/av|new av template]] ready, if you want to copy it over now. (It seems to work in previews, but feel free to test it some more) --{{User:Lethosor/sig}} 02:10, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
 
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::::: Cool.  If you think it's ready, push it up, and I'll monitor the job queue. --[[User:Briess|Briess]] ([[User talk:Briess|talk]]) 02:20, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
 
  
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== Complete set of tables of biome lifeforms ==
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== Image brokenness ==
  
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I have assembled a Word .doc containing a set of 5 tables for each of the 51 biomes (Creatures, Vermin, Grasses, Plants, Trees).
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Back in 2012, DrSazar added the poorly-named [http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/File:Sperm.jpg [File:Sperm.jpg], a photograph of a sperm whale. At some point after May 2013 the photograph [http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=DF2014:Sperm_whale&oldid=203603 changed into an image of actual sperm], presumably drawn from wikimedia commons. The wiki software shouldn't be losing images, or replacing local images with reference images. It's not the only image that [http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/Thread seems to be missing], either.--[[User:Loci|Loci]] ([[User talk:Loci|talk]]) 16:05, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
  
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I did this for my own purposes, but thought it might be useful to the wiki biome pages. I have *zero* experience with wiki editing.
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:[http://dwarffortresswiki.org/images/c/c7/Sperm.jpg Sperm.jpg] is still on the servers (as is its thumbnail). [http://dwarffortresswiki.org/images/2/23/Dyed_thread.png Dyed_thread.png] is also on the servers, but its thumbnail appears to be missing. I'll try rebuilding the image table to see if that fixes anything. &mdash;[[User:Lethosor|<span style="color:#074">Lethosor</span>]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|<span style="color:#092">talk</span>]]) 16:20, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
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::Dyed_thread.png has been fixed. I'm still not sure what's wrong with Sperm.jpg - it's stored on the server, but Mediawiki doesn't seem to be recognizing it. &mdash;[[User:Lethosor|<span style="color:#074">Lethosor</span>]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|<span style="color:#092">talk</span>]]) 16:28, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
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:::Mediawiki Commons has a history of being entirely dumb. I moved the page; I think it's possible that busting the thumbnails could theoretically fix it, but I'm not sure. --[[User:Briess|Briess]] ([[User talk:Briess|talk]]) 03:40, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
  
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I wanted the tables to fit within a small vertical space for 'at a glance' viewing of what is native to a biome.  The tables are are set up as 4 columns with alpha sorted names.  Since in some biomes the list  can become long, I used a '<name> (3)' format to collapse '<name>, '<name Man', and 'Giant <name>' into a single line.
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== Cloning the wiki ==
  
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The resulting set of 5 tables for each biome are all smaller than a single printed page.
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Hi Briess! lethosor directed me here from IRC.
  
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The tables also include surrounding notes where they exist.
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Making the wiki available offline has been discussed before by many different people. [http://sebsauvage.net/wiki/doku.php?id=df_portable_wiki Some even manage] something almost useful. You've helped the situation by making the XML dumps available, however so much information in the wiki is locked behind templates that depend on custom PHP extensions to expand properly. I want to pick up this torch and produce something usable and useful for everyone.
  
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If you think this would be useful, I'd be happy to send the Word .doc file.
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My plan is simple.
  
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--- Grumalg ---
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# Massage the DF2014 namespace into a set of static HTML documents
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# Bundle these documents in [http://kapeli.com/docsets the docset format]
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# Release the docset in [http://kapeli.com/dash Dash] on OSX and [zealdocs.org Zeal] on Windows and Linux.
  
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== Load time ==
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Dash/Zeal provide fast instant search and they're designed for searching through sets of documents already.
  
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I've been having some major issues with response time lately - some pages don't load at all, sending me to the Cloudflare page (see the gaps in my recent edits). I haven't seen a lot of visible traffic, though, so I'm not exactly sure what the cause is (although the