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Lurker: Do slaughtered animals count as kills?

2021-06-13T03:00:36Z

Do slaughtered animals count as kills?

Loci: rsp

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81.111.102.79: Added note about possible source of depression ~~~~

2019-01-22T19:43:14Z

Added note about possible source of depression ~~~~

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		+	== Negative thoughts ==
	I think that butchering gives negative thoughts to some dwarves. It made my full time butcher depressed after a year or two.		I think that butchering gives negative thoughts to some dwarves. It made my full time butcher depressed after a year or two.

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	:Seeing dead bodies can cause negative thoughts, though thanks to recent balancing those thoughts are less common. The actual act of butchering a critter can also cause bad thoughts if the butcher highly values nature--yours dislikes nature and receives happy thoughts instead. But most of her negative thoughts shown are unrelated (cave adaption, miasma, and unmet [[needs]]). Dwarves' individual [[DF2014:Personality#Facets\|personalities]] affect how they handle stress, and your butcher suffered a personality-changing-event in 91 that increased her anxiety propensity. It's likely she would be similarly anxious performing other jobs, though if she were particularly valuable you might be able to preserve her sanity for a while by removing stressors (no more sunlight, corpses, arguments, etc.) and keeping her needs met. Realistically, in the current version personality-changing-events will eventually make every dwarf susceptible to moderate amounts of stress. You can expel problematic dwarves, or draft them into a squad and send them to seize an enemy site. Either way, you'll get fresh migrants who have somehow avoided the twin travesties of sun and rain for their entire existence up to this point, ready to work hard for a few years before they too succumb to stress and must be sent away.--[[User:Loci\|Loci]] ([[User talk:Loci\|talk]]) 21:15, 24 January 2019 (UTC)		:Seeing dead bodies can cause negative thoughts, though thanks to recent balancing those thoughts are less common. The actual act of butchering a critter can also cause bad thoughts if the butcher highly values nature--yours dislikes nature and receives happy thoughts instead. But most of her negative thoughts shown are unrelated (cave adaption, miasma, and unmet [[needs]]). Dwarves' individual [[DF2014:Personality#Facets\|personalities]] affect how they handle stress, and your butcher suffered a personality-changing-event in 91 that increased her anxiety propensity. It's likely she would be similarly anxious performing other jobs, though if she were particularly valuable you might be able to preserve her sanity for a while by removing stressors (no more sunlight, corpses, arguments, etc.) and keeping her needs met. Realistically, in the current version personality-changing-events will eventually make every dwarf susceptible to moderate amounts of stress. You can expel problematic dwarves, or draft them into a squad and send them to seize an enemy site. Either way, you'll get fresh migrants who have somehow avoided the twin travesties of sun and rain for their entire existence up to this point, ready to work hard for a few years before they too succumb to stress and must be sent away.--[[User:Loci\|Loci]] ([[User talk:Loci\|talk]]) 21:15, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
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		+	== Do slaughtered animals count as kills? ==
		+	Does anyone know if slaughtered animals count as kills? Do butchers have a ridiculous kill count? --[[User:Lurker\|Lurker]] ([[User talk:Lurker\|talk]]) 03:00, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

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	Here is a screenshot of her thoughts https://i.imgur.com/xowobYp.png		Here is a screenshot of her thoughts https://i.imgur.com/xowobYp.png

−	I am not certain of this, but I think it warrants some research. Her depression could have been caused by other factors, although she is the only one in my fort who is suffering this much; her depression keeps reoccurring.	+	I am not certain of this, but I think it warrants some research. Her depression could have been caused by other factors, although she is the only one in my fort who is suffering this much; her depression keeps reoccurring.<small>– [[template:unsigned\|unsigned]] comment by [[User:81.111.102.79\|81.111.102.79]]</small>
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		+	:Seeing dead bodies can cause negative thoughts, though thanks to recent balancing those thoughts are less common. The actual act of butchering a critter can also cause bad thoughts if the butcher highly values nature--yours dislikes nature and receives happy thoughts instead. But most of her negative thoughts shown are unrelated (cave adaption, miasma, and unmet [[needs]]). Dwarves' individual [[DF2014:Personality#Facets\|personalities]] affect how they handle stress, and your butcher suffered a personality-changing-event in 91 that increased her anxiety propensity. It's likely she would be similarly anxious performing other jobs, though if she were particularly valuable you might be able to preserve her sanity for a while by removing stressors (no more sunlight, corpses, arguments, etc.) and keeping her needs met. Realistically, in the current version personality-changing-events will eventually make every dwarf susceptible to moderate amounts of stress. You can expel problematic dwarves, or draft them into a squad and send them to seize an enemy site. Either way, you'll get fresh migrants who have somehow avoided the twin travesties of sun and rain for their entire existence up to this point, ready to work hard for a few years before they too succumb to stress and must be sent away.--[[User:Loci\|Loci]] ([[User talk:Loci\|talk]]) 21:15, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

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		+	Here is a screenshot of her thoughts https://i.imgur.com/xowobYp.png
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		+	I am not certain of this, but I think it warrants some research. Her depression could have been caused by other factors, although she is the only one in my fort who is suffering this much; her depression keeps reoccurring.