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Overspeculated: /* Killing party starters */ new section

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Killing party starters: new section

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Darekun at 06:47, 4 May 2009

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N9103: /* Party Prevention Planning */

2008-05-20T01:47:10Z

Party Prevention Planning

JeebusSez at 06:44, 19 May 2008

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Koltom at 10:03, 20 March 2008

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Koltom: clean

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Koltom at 01:37, 6 March 2008

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	It also looks like dwarves need to be relatively happy already to throw a party, though they can invite unhappy dwarves. [[User:Darekun\|Darekun]] 06:47, 4 May 2009 (UTC)		It also looks like dwarves need to be relatively happy already to throw a party, though they can invite unhappy dwarves. [[User:Darekun\|Darekun]] 06:47, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
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		+	== Killing party starters ==
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		+	Killing party starters seems a fine way to prevent many things. Party starters would usually be the most social dwarves, and as such have the most friends if allowed to go down their path. Killing them before that stops them from making friends with the entire fortress, preventing a tantrum spiral down the line and killing them makes others sad enough to stop partying. (also it seems more realistic (read fun in the non-DF "fun" way) than "freeing" the room!) Thoughts?--[[User:Overspeculated\|Overspeculated]] 23:00, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

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 nobody ever gets shown as "attend party" as their job except for the guy who initiated it.. for me anyway... but i have noticed that the host can still make friends with the people idling there seeing as they normally hold it in a meeting place, where everyone with no job goes... [[User:Twiggie|Twiggie]] 08:51, 5 December 2007 (EST)
-: Yup - partygoers count as hanging out in the meeting hall, and therefore socialize. Including with people attending different parties. Also, it looks like inviting someone to a party counts as a social interaction, but attending a party only counts by dint of hanging out in the meeting hall.
+: Yup - partygoers count as hanging out in the meeting hall, and therefore socialize. Including with people attending different parties. Also, it looks like inviting someone to a party counts as a social interaction, but attending a party only counts by dint of hanging out in the meeting hall. [[User:Darekun|Darekun]] 07:04, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
 I'm reasonably sure that only dwarves who are idle for extended periods start parties - can anyone confirm or deny this? --[[User:TangoThree|TangoThree]] 14:30, 21 January 2008 (EST)

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 nobody ever gets shown as "attend party" as their job except for the guy who initiated it.. for me anyway... but i have noticed that the host can still make friends with the people idling there seeing as they normally hold it in a meeting place, where everyone with no job goes... [[User:Twiggie|Twiggie]] 08:51, 5 December 2007 (EST)
 I'm reasonably sure that only dwarves who are idle for extended periods start parties - can anyone confirm or deny this? --[[User:TangoThree|TangoThree]] 14:30, 21 January 2008 (EST)
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 : So you are saying that time spent on parties reduces on break time? Hard to prove and does not contradict the fact that they will start and attend parties without being on "no job" or break some time before. It is definitely not a low priority task. I routinely cancel parties to free a worker i need and while a few sometimes turn (back?) to 'on break' then, most start to work. --[[User:Koltom|Koltom]] 06:03, 20 March 2008 (EDT)
 ==Party Prevention Planning==
 Something I've noticed is that if you designate an area as a Dining Room from a table but as a Meeting Hall from the [i] Zones panel (instead of from the table itself), they'll gather around the tables (like a meeting area) and eat there (like a dining room), but will never throw parties, thus allowing idle dorfs to socialize, but keeping them free for tasks (instead of being locked into party mode). Can anyone confirm? -[[User:JeebusSez|JeebusSez]] 02:44, 19 May 2008 (EDT)
 :Any meeting '''zone''' will always be party free. Where you place it doesn't matter, and infact I'd suggest placing it so that the dwarves using it are as close to your industrial center as possible without generating traffic that gets in the way of workers. Alternatively, place it near the front entrance and they will act as thief/snatcher spotters. Caged animals are better suited to this task however. Personally, I *never* designate statue gardens, zoos, or other meeting rooms, due to the frequent and typically perpetual parties. The happy thoughts aren't nearly worth the loss in productivity, particularly with all the masterpiece meals, drinks, and engravings around the place.

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	==Party Prevention Planning==		==Party Prevention Planning==
	Something I've noticed is that if you designate an area as a Dining Room from a table but as a Meeting Hall from the [i] Zones panel (instead of from the table itself), they'll gather around the tables (like a meeting area) and eat there (like a dining room), but will never throw parties, thus allowing idle dorfs to socialize, but keeping them free for tasks (instead of being locked into party mode). Can anyone confirm? -[[User:JeebusSez\|JeebusSez]] 02:44, 19 May 2008 (EDT)		Something I've noticed is that if you designate an area as a Dining Room from a table but as a Meeting Hall from the [i] Zones panel (instead of from the table itself), they'll gather around the tables (like a meeting area) and eat there (like a dining room), but will never throw parties, thus allowing idle dorfs to socialize, but keeping them free for tasks (instead of being locked into party mode). Can anyone confirm? -[[User:JeebusSez\|JeebusSez]] 02:44, 19 May 2008 (EDT)
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		+	:Any meeting '''zone''' will always be party free. Where you place it doesn't matter, and infact I'd suggest placing it so that the dwarves using it are as close to your industrial center as possible without generating traffic that gets in the way of workers. Alternatively, place it near the front entrance and they will act as thief/snatcher spotters. Caged animals are better suited to this task however. Personally, I never designate statue gardens, zoos, or other meeting rooms, due to the frequent and typically perpetual parties. The happy thoughts aren't nearly worth the loss in productivity, particularly with all the masterpiece meals, drinks, and engravings around the place.

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	: So you are saying that time spent on parties reduces on break time? Hard to prove and does not contradict the fact that they will start and attend parties without being on "no job" or break some time before. It is definitely not a low priority task. I routinely cancel parties to free a worker i need and while a few sometimes turn (back?) to 'on break' then, most start to work. --[[User:Koltom\|Koltom]] 06:03, 20 March 2008 (EDT)		: So you are saying that time spent on parties reduces on break time? Hard to prove and does not contradict the fact that they will start and attend parties without being on "no job" or break some time before. It is definitely not a low priority task. I routinely cancel parties to free a worker i need and while a few sometimes turn (back?) to 'on break' then, most start to work. --[[User:Koltom\|Koltom]] 06:03, 20 March 2008 (EDT)
		+	==Party Prevention Planning==
		+	Something I've noticed is that if you designate an area as a Dining Room from a table but as a Meeting Hall from the [i] Zones panel (instead of from the table itself), they'll gather around the tables (like a meeting area) and eat there (like a dining room), but will never throw parties, thus allowing idle dorfs to socialize, but keeping them free for tasks (instead of being locked into party mode). Can anyone confirm? -[[User:JeebusSez\|JeebusSez]] 02:44, 19 May 2008 (EDT)

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	There is dispute then. Dwarves with jobs to do spend in parties only the time they would already spend on "On Break". Toady One already stated this sometime ago. I will make a search on the forums. From my experience, parties don't bring production to a halt, like the article says. It is a low priority "job".--[[User:ThVaz\|ThVaz]] 08:48, 20 February 2008 (EST)		There is dispute then. Dwarves with jobs to do spend in parties only the time they would already spend on "On Break". Toady One already stated this sometime ago. I will make a search on the forums. From my experience, parties don't bring production to a halt, like the article says. It is a low priority "job".--[[User:ThVaz\|ThVaz]] 08:48, 20 February 2008 (EST)

−	:~~I agree~~ that ~~it's now (38c) mostly idle ones who initiate~~ parties and ~~its usually only their friends who~~ attend (~~which might even be a bug~~) ~~but it was completely different in 38a~~.	+	: So you are saying that time spent on parties reduces on break time? Hard to prove and does not contradict the fact that they will start and attend parties without being on "no job" or break some time before. It is definitely not a low priority task. I routinely cancel parties to free a worker i need and while a few sometimes turn (back?) to 'on break' then, most start to work. --[[User:Koltom\|Koltom]] 06:03, 20 March 2008 (EDT)

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	:I agree that it's now (38c) mostly idle ones who initiate parties and its usually only their friends who attend (which might even be a bug) but it was completely different in 38a.		:I agree that it's now (38c) mostly idle ones who initiate parties and its usually only their friends who attend (which might even be a bug) but it was completely different in 38a.
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−	I once succeeded in killing a party right at the start. I locked down the room before anyone entered it. This caused a message "Febubal cancels attend party, no floor space". --[[User:Koltom\|Koltom]] 11:29, 15 February 2008 (EST)
−	~~: Ther's now a better method in article --[[User:Koltom\|Koltom]] 12:23, 15 February 2008 (EST)~~

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	There is dispute then. Dwarves with jobs to do spend in parties only the time they would already spend on "On Break". Toady One already stated this sometime ago. I will make a search on the forums. From my experience, parties don't bring production to a halt, like the article says. It is a low priority "job".--[[User:ThVaz\|ThVaz]] 08:48, 20 February 2008 (EST)		There is dispute then. Dwarves with jobs to do spend in parties only the time they would already spend on "On Break". Toady One already stated this sometime ago. I will make a search on the forums. From my experience, parties don't bring production to a halt, like the article says. It is a low priority "job".--[[User:ThVaz\|ThVaz]] 08:48, 20 February 2008 (EST)
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		+	:I agree that it's now (38c) mostly idle ones who initiate parties and its usually only their friends who attend (which might even be a bug) but it was completely different in 38a.

	== cancel ==		== cancel ==