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		<id>https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d:Adamantine&amp;diff=14281</id>
		<title>40d:Adamantine</title>
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		<updated>2008-01-17T03:15:30Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Tacroy: /* Processing */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{minorspoiler}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Metal|color=#0FF|bgcolor=#0CC|name=Adamantine|&lt;br /&gt;
|ore=&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Raw adamantine]]&lt;br /&gt;
|properties=&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Damage]]% 500&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Armor|Block]]% 500&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Material value]] 300&lt;br /&gt;
|uses=&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Weapon|Melee Weapons]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Crossbow]]s&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Bolt]]s&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Pick]]s&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Armor]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Anvil]]s&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Metalsmith's forge|Metal crafting]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Clothing]]&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Adamantine''' is by far the most rare and valuable [[metal]] in the game. It can only be found in small amounts in mountainous areas. Care should be taken if it is found, since digging down several levels through it will lead you to the demon pits. After you reach the [[Glowing pits|pits]], a horde of demons will eventually be loosed on your fortress. These demons are very powerful and can wipe out even a mature, heavily defended fortress.&lt;br /&gt;
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Discovery of adamantine will also bring the attention of the [[King]], who will immigrate to your fortress once news of your discovery reaches him. If you have not otherwise met the criteria for attracting the King, he will arrive &amp;quot;disguised as a peasant.&amp;quot; His requirements appears to be the same in any case, so be prepared!&lt;br /&gt;
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== Location ==&lt;br /&gt;
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To start in a location which has adamantine (and the accompanying demon pits), you must start on a mountain tile ({{Raw Tile|∆|#FFFFFF|#000000}},{{Raw Tile|∆|#808080|#000000}},{{Raw Tile|▲|#FFFFFF|#000000}},{{Raw Tile|▲|#C0C0C0|#000000}},{{Raw Tile|▲|#808080|#000000}},{{Raw Tile|▲|#00FFFF|#000000}},{{Raw Tile|^|#FFFFFF|#000000}},{{Raw Tile|^|#808080|#000000}},{{Raw Tile|^|#00FFFF|#000000}}) or volcano tile ({{Raw Tile|^|#FF0000|#000000}}) in the Region map. The adamantine and pits will be located somewhere within the Local map of that region. It is more likely to be found on a Local map square which also shows as mountain.{{verify}} The adamantine will occupy only one Local square, though the demon pits may extend beyond it. Finding it can be very difficult without [[cheating]].&lt;br /&gt;
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== Processing ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Adamantine strands are extracted from [[raw adamantine]] at a [[craftsdwarf's workshop]]. The [[strand extraction]] labor must be enabled for a dwarf to perform the extraction. Adamantine strands are worth 1800 [[Currency|monies]] each, while the raw adamantine is worth 750.&lt;br /&gt;
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Subsequent processing of the strands requires no adamantine-specific skills or labor permissions. Adamantine strands are processed into adamantine wafers at any [[smelter]]. Adamantine wafers are worth 1500 [[Currency|monies]] each--curiously, less than the strands they are smelted from. Adamantine wafers are treated much like [[bar]]s of other metal, and can be forged into a variety of useful items. Adamantine strands may also be woven into cloth using the Weave Metal Cloth task in a [[loom]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Forging things out of adamantine requires three times more wafers than normal; for instance, plate mail normally requires three metal bars to forge; adamantine plate mail requires nine adamantine wafers.&lt;br /&gt;
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Raw adamantine may also be processed into [[stone]] goods in the same way as other economic stone.  In its raw form, it has a [[Item value|value multiplier]] of x250 (as opposed to adamantine metal, which is x300).  Raw adamantine blocks are worth 1250 monies.&lt;br /&gt;
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Adamantine items are incredibly light: they weigh about 2.5% as much as an equivalent article crafted from iron.&lt;br /&gt;
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Adamantine is so valuable that a special message pops up when you discover a vein of it.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:000006 - Praise the miners!.png||500px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Veining==&lt;br /&gt;
Curiously, adamantine veins tend to span z-levels more than the xy planes.  Finding a short section of adamantine only 2x1 or 3x1, dig up or down a z-level and you'll probably find another short section.&lt;br /&gt;
So far I have four veins that run 3 z-levels down and along the y-axis before seeming to expand on the x-axis and three viens contained entirely on an xy plane.  [http://mkv25.net/dfma/poi-2837-addyveinstotallyz-spanning:Link to DFMA Point of Interest] and [http://mkv25.net/dfma/movie-290-z-leveladamantinevein:Link to Movie]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Metals]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Economic Stone]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d:Trifle_pewter&amp;diff=14137</id>
		<title>40d:Trifle pewter</title>
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		<updated>2008-01-11T10:12:04Z</updated>

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&lt;div&gt;{{Alloy|name=Trifle pewter|color=#CCC|bgcolor=#088|color1=#CCC|color2=#880&lt;br /&gt;
|recipe=&lt;br /&gt;
* 2 [[tin]] [[bar]]s&lt;br /&gt;
* 1 [[copper]] [[bar]]&lt;br /&gt;
- or -&lt;br /&gt;
* 2 [[cassiterite]]&lt;br /&gt;
* 1 [[copper]] [[ore]]&lt;br /&gt;
|properties=&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Material value]] 4&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Trifle Pewter''' is not a naturally occurring [[Metal]]. It must be smelted at a [[Smelter]] with either of the following recipes:&lt;br /&gt;
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*2x [[Tin]] + [[Copper]]&lt;br /&gt;
*2x [[Cassiterite]] + [[Copper Nuggets]], [[Malachite]], or [[Tetrahedrite]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Trifle pewter has a base value of 4, which makes it a preferable material for creating objects of wealth, since all of its ingredients have a value of only 2.&lt;br /&gt;
[[category:metals]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d_Talk:Strange_mood&amp;diff=5099</id>
		<title>40d Talk:Strange mood</title>
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		<updated>2008-01-09T21:51:29Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Tacroy: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Does the new version still have the strange mood? It wouldnt be complete without it!&lt;br /&gt;
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:It still exists, I've had it happen several times now, I went to the archive wiki and copy/pasted the old page.&lt;br /&gt;
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::Isnt that why the wiki was nuked? To make sure that no old info lingers? Ill put some &amp;quot;verify&amp;quot; in there, I dont think that the bold text is enough for users to understand that some of this may no longer apply. --[[User:Mizipzor|Mizipzor]] 06:03, 6 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I agree. Although moods themselves don't seem to have been changed in this version, the changes to the stones/ores that they use means that some of the information in this article is no longer true. I'll have a go at cleaning it up when I have the proper time for it, but this wiki definitely needs a 'no copypasting from the archives' rule to avoid screwups like this. If people are going to copypaste old stuff, then it is downright irresponsible of them not to verify the accuracy of the information before committing it to the wiki. --[[User:Morlark|Morlark]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I know, I was a huge fan of that little strange aspect of the old one.&lt;br /&gt;
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I need my dwarfs to make more swordfish bone swords, and i still need some glass weapons/armor&lt;br /&gt;
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The moods seem to have changed. One of my dwarfs went fey, made a nice hematite mug, and is now a legendary... Engraver. Very wierd, he also had no stoneworking or other craftdwarf skills. But he was a competent mason. This was also my fifth dwarf who took the same craftworkshop, so it's a bit strange. --[[User:Soyweiser|Soyweiser]] 17:36, 6 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Six fey dwarf, all took the craftdwarfshop, now my bowyer took one. Think it might be a bug. Is the 15 artifacts limit still in? --[[User:Soyweiser|Soyweiser]] 14:34, 8 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Whohoo my second legendary engraver made a gold mug. My bowyer became a legendary engraver. --[[User:Soyweiser|Soyweiser]] 14:40, 8 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::: Scratch all that, one of my woodworkers just used a carpenters shop. --[[User:Soyweiser|Soyweiser]] 07:45, 9 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Have you marked all statements in the article that risks being falsified with &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;{{verify}}&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;? --[[User:Mizipzor|Mizipzor]] 19:41, 6 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey, I am getting a dwarf who wants &amp;quot;raw...crystal&amp;quot;. Help? -- [[User:Bovinepro|Bovinepro]]&lt;br /&gt;
:Probably wants raw crystal glass. I had a dwarf ask for &amp;quot;raw...green&amp;quot;, they wanted raw green glass. Looks like Toady might have moved the glass demands out of the &amp;quot;rough...color&amp;quot; category. [[User:Iddq?|Iddq?]]&lt;br /&gt;
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About the engravers taking over craftdwarf's shops and becoming legendary engravers afterwards is quite true. I recently got a bunch of immigrants, and the engraver that came with them fell into a strange mood before even crossing the bridge on my river. He took over a craftdwarf's workshop and made a basalt scepter, and now he's legendary level in engraving. So yeah, perfect laboratory conditions, he was 100% engraver when he went into his mood and came out a legendary engraver. --[[User:Zhang5|Zhang5]] 17:07, 12 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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It seems that no craft skill is required.  I just had a peasant go into a strange mood.  His skills were: competent marksdwarf; novice wrestler; novice armor wearer.  He grabbed a craftsdwarf's workshop and 10 items (3xFelsite, Schorls, Tigereyes, Red Beryls, Giant cave swallow leather, Grizzly Bear Leather, Rough harlequin opals and Ash logs -- guess he has expensive taste?) and churned out an idol in relatively short order.  This is my 9th successful mood in this fortress, and I've seen requests for between 3 and 10 items, personally.  Since they seem to be increasing in complexity, I've either hit the item cap, or I'm about to break ten :)  [[User:Doctorlucky|Doctorlucky]] 16:34, 19 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:This is consistent with older versions.  Moody peasants would become crafters, and 10 items was the cap.  The minimum was 1 item -- generally when constructing a &amp;quot;perfect gem&amp;quot;.--[[User:Maximus|Maximus]] 16:55, 19 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I had a miner go into a strange mood, take over a mason's workshop, and make a something that got him up to legendary miner status. In my current fort, I have had 6 artifacts made, 2 of which were actual moods and 5 of which were possessions (I can add, one of them failed and the dwarf became a babbling wreck). My dwarves love to use only one item: an oak door (1 item), an olivine coffin (2 items), a turtle shell mask (1 item and is my cheapest artifiact at 3600), a diorite amulet (3 items), and a perfect jelly opal (1 item). --[[User:Penguinofhonor|Penguinofhonor]] 18:47, 28 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Where to add the info that in my game (.33c) a miner took over a mason's workshop, became legendary miner and then held the artifact in his right hand instead of a pick, which became 'hauled', then droped the pick and then took the pick with his left hand? He can mine after all these. While holding a 667 weight units cabinet in his right hand. --[[User:Another|Another]] 10:07, 1 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I had dwarf Miller, profecienty Grower who had Fey Mood, and he became a  Legendary Mason ....&lt;br /&gt;
Is it normal ? [[user:Feydreva|Feydreva]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Maximum number of artifacts==&lt;br /&gt;
Well, I just got my umpteenth mood, and it resulted in the 16th successfully created artifact.(33b)  So that 15 cap thing is clearly wrong.  As it happens, this single artifact is worth 754,800, and is an adamantine spear decorated with, among other things, adamantine.  For the record, in case this data is important to someone tabulating number of ingredients, my moods in order created the following objects using the corresponding number of ingredients: (Flute, 4; Mechanism, 4; Spear, 3; Millstone, 6; Ring, 8; Chest, 7; Cape, 7; Ring, 9; Statue, 8; Idol, 10; earring, 8; Buckler, 8; Table, 3; Mechanism, 10; Bracelet, 5; and Spear, 8). [[User:Doctorlucky|Doctorlucky]] 04:54, 27 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== clarification on &amp;quot;trade&amp;quot; skills ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Are trade skills all the skills that produce items with some level of quality? Mainly I want to know if dyer is a trade skill. And how does that work with miner? I didn't think miner was a trade skill. Maybe someone who knows more than me could clarify in the wiki.&lt;br /&gt;
I just got my first artifact. It's worth 2400. The dwarf took one log and made a scepter. -[[User:Radtse|Radtse]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:I don't know exactly, we should make a list of the skills we know are not trade skills. I'll start: my brewer/grower once got a strange mood and made a wood item and gained woodcrafting skill. Let's try to only add to the list when we have experienced a moody dwarf with that skill only.--[[User:Valdemar|Valdemar]] 19:36, 27 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I'm adding Weaver and Furnace Operator to this list, since they're on the wiki. I haven't seen them myself, but I'm assuming someone else has. Knowing that Furnace Operator is a &amp;quot;fey-able&amp;quot; skill will be quite helpful.-[[User:Radtse|Radtse]] 18:28, 29 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Where's cooking fit in? --[[User:KittenyKat|KittenyKat]] 20:09, 6 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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List of non-trade skills:&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Brewer]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Grower]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Miller]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Skills that may be used and gained by dwarves with no trade skills:&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Wood crafter]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Stone crafter]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Skills that use a different skill(See list above), but give correct skill:&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Miner]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Engraver]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Furnace Operator]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Weaver]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== mood condition ==&lt;br /&gt;
The 20 dwarves / no crazy stuff has been found while looking at the binary of v0.27.169.33d, might be different now, but i don't think so. [[User:Bartavelle|Bartavelle]] 15:08, 2 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Random Workshop Seizure ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I just had a gem cutter seize a carpenter's workshop and make a perfect gem; upon completion I had a worthless Legendary dwarf and a new jeweler's workshop, so I guess that's still in from the previous version. I've removed the verify in the article. [[User:Tacroy|Tacroy]] 16:51, 9 January 2008 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d:Strange_mood&amp;diff=9725</id>
		<title>40d:Strange mood</title>
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		<updated>2008-01-09T21:49:52Z</updated>

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'''Help! A crazy dwarf is in my metal shop and I need to make giant axe blades to fend off the [[Undead|skeletal]] [[carp]]!'''&lt;br /&gt;
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Periodically, individual dwarves in your fortress will be struck with an idea for a [[legendary artifact]] and enter a '''strange mood'''.  Dwarves which enter a strange mood will stop whatever they are doing and pursue the construction of this artifact single-mindedly.  They will not stop to eat, drink, sleep, or even run away from dangerous creatures.  If they do not manage to begin construction of the artifact within three months or so, they will go [[Strange Mood#Failure|insane]] and die soon afterward.&lt;br /&gt;
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However, if a dwarf does manage to create an artifact, he or she will gain one [[legendary]] [[skill]] (with one exception: &amp;quot;possessed&amp;quot; dwarves will create an artifact but gain no skill from it).&lt;br /&gt;
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For a mood to start, the following conditions must be fullfilled:&lt;br /&gt;
* at least 20 dwarves&lt;br /&gt;
* nobody currently crazy, melancholic, or in a strange mood&lt;br /&gt;
* at least 1 dwarf that has not already created an artifact&lt;br /&gt;
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== Strange-mood behavior ==&lt;br /&gt;
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When a dwarf is struck by a strange mood, the game will automatically center the map on the moody dwarf, pause, and alert you to his or her particular mood.  While in a mood, a dwarf will display a blinking exclamation point (see [[status icons]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Workshops ===&lt;br /&gt;
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After entering a mood, a dwarf will stop whatever he or she is doing, head to a [[workshop]], and &amp;quot;claim&amp;quot; it, kicking out any other dwarf who may be using it.  The workshop a dwarf takes over will usually depend upon the dwarf's highest &amp;quot;trade&amp;quot; [[skill]]: a Bone Carver, for instance, will generally take over a [[craftsdwarf's workshop]]; a Jeweler will take over a [[jeweler's workshop]]; a Mechanic will take over a [[mechanic's workshop]]; and a Metalsmith will take over a [[forge]].  &lt;br /&gt;
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Most farming-, fishing-, trapping-, and combat-related skills (grower, thresher, brewer, fish cleaner, animal trainer, axedwarf, etc.) do not count as &amp;quot;trade&amp;quot; skills (although Tanners can enter strange moods, and will take over a [[tanner's shop]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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Active [[soldiers]] can enter a strange mood if they have any trade skills from before they were conscripted.  A soldier will be removed from his or her [[squad]] during the course of a mood and returned to it upon successful completion of an artifact.  If a soldier has gained a legendary skill, you may wish to make use of it by removing that dwarf from the military.&lt;br /&gt;
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If the right workshop is not available, a moody dwarf will stand idle instead (in their bedroom, outside the fort, in a [[sculpture garden]] or [[meeting hall]], etc.) waiting for you to construct the right workshop.  You can usually tell which workshop a moody dwarf wants by {{key|v}}iewing their skills; their highest trade skill will dictate which workshop you should build for them. Be warned, however, that a moody dwarf will not help you construct a workshop. If you do not have another dwarf with the skills to construct it, you must enable the relevant skill on another dwarf.&lt;br /&gt;
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Moody Glassmakers will require a [[glass furnace]] instead of a workshop, but Furnace Operators will require a [[forge]].  If your miners have reached the [[magma flow]], any dwarf requiring a forge will insist on a [[magma forge]], and will ignore any existing charcoal-powered forges.{{verify}}  Glassmakers will use either a charcoal- or a magma-fuelled glass furnace.{{verify}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Moody dwarves will occasionally seize a random workshop and proceed to create their artifact there.  Following completion of the artifact, this workshop will often be converted into the type originally desired by the dwarf.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Skills ===&lt;br /&gt;
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If a dwarf manages to successfully complete an artifact, the dwarf's highest trade skill will be elevated to &amp;quot;legendary&amp;quot;.  More specifically, 20,000 [[experience]] will be added to that skill.  This will also give the dwarf several [[attribute]] boosts.  (&amp;quot;Possessed&amp;quot; dwarves, however, gain no experience.)&lt;br /&gt;
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This fact can be utilized to maximize the possibility of getting dwarf with a legendary skill you want: where possible, make sure each dwarf's highest trade skill is one of the kinds you want.  Have all your peasants, growers, soldiers (you will have to temporarily deactivate them from the military), and other dwarves without trade skills do a tiny bit of work in the skill(s) you most want (Armorsmith is possibly the most-desired legendary skill); if a &amp;quot;dabbling&amp;quot; trade skill is the highest they have, that is the skill that will be used.&lt;br /&gt;
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The type of artifact created will also depend on the dwarf's highest trade skill.  Masons will always create some kind of [[stone]] object; Bone Carvers, a [[bone]] or [[shell]] object; Carpenters, a [[wood]] object, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
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For the purposes of strange moods, [[mining]] and [[engraving]] are considered trade skills: moody miners and engravers will usually take over a craftsdwarf's or mason's workshop, turn out a stone craft or piece of furniture, and gain legendary skill as miners or engravers respectively (not as stone crafters or masons).  Furnace operators will turn out a metal craft or piece of furniture and become legendary furnace operators. Weavers will take over a [[clothier's shop]] and produce an article of clothing.&lt;br /&gt;
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Dwarves with no trade skills whatsoever (including [[children]], sometimes) can go into strange moods.  Such dwarves generally gain one of the crafting skills (wood crafter, bone carver, etc.).&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Materials ===&lt;br /&gt;
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In addition to requiring a specific workshop, dwarves will also demand specific raw [[material]]s in order to complete their artifact.  Each artifact will require between one and ten items to complete.{{verify}}&lt;br /&gt;
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After claiming a workshop, a moody dwarf will set about collecting these materials.  If the supplies are not at hand, the dwarf will sit in the workshop until the items become available, or go insane if they do not become available before long.&lt;br /&gt;
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Jewelers will usually only require one item: a rough [[gem]], which they will fashion into a &amp;quot;perfect&amp;quot; gem.  Metalsmiths will usually use [[ore]] (not [[metal bars]]).{{verify}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Glassmakers will always require at least one piece of raw glass, usually clear. Since they will usually take over your glass furnace, you will either have to build another glass furnace or make sure you have the right types of raw glass ahead of time.  The steps involved in glass production are fairly time-consuming: you must first collect sand, which requires an empty [[bag]] and an &amp;quot;Item [[hauling|Haul]]er&amp;quot; who is not busy hauling finished goods, then haul the sand to the furnace and melt it into glass.  Clear glass is even more time consuming (the above steps plus: make [[potash]] out of [[wood]], bake it into [[pearlash]] in a [[kiln]], haul it to the furnace).  It is therefore recommended you make several pieces of raw glass of each type as early as you can, reserved for use by moody dwarves. Furthermore, any dwarf may require raw glass, not just glassmakers.&lt;br /&gt;
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The first object grabbed by the dwarf will be the &amp;quot;primary&amp;quot; substance; all other materials will be used to decorate the artifact.  If a dwarf grabs onyx and makes a bed, for instance, it will be an &amp;quot;onyx bed&amp;quot;.  In addition to the primary substance, many other materials will often be used to construct an artifact.  An artifact can potentially be composed of bone, cloth, gems, leather, metal, shell, stone, and wood all at once.{{verify}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Demands ====&lt;br /&gt;
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While a moody dwarf is in a workshop, you can get an idea of what materials he or she wants by pressing {{k|q}} and moving the cursor over the workshop. (If the dwarf is busy fetching objects instead of &amp;quot;waiting&amp;quot; for unavailable materials, you can still see this display by catching the dwarf in the workshop just as he or she is dropping off an object.)&lt;br /&gt;
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The message will change every few seconds if the dwarf demands several different items. The dwarf will list all the materials he or she demands even if most of them have already been fetched. If a demand lasts longer than about 2 seconds, that means multiple items of that type will be required. Sometimes a dwarf will also mutter an unfamiliar word, such as &amp;quot;Kerging&amp;quot;. This word is the name of the artifact he or she intends to create.&lt;br /&gt;
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Moody dwarves collect their items in a fixed sequence, so if they have already collected at least one item (it will be lying in the workshop, viewable under the {{k|t}} menu), you can see what item in the sequence they will need next to continue. &lt;br /&gt;
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Things dwarves demand include:&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Bones]] - &amp;quot;bones... yes&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;pictures of skeletons&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Cloth]] (not thread) - &amp;quot;cloth... thread&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;pictures of stacked cloth&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
* Cut [[gem]]s - &amp;quot;gems... shining&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;gems&amp;quot;. ''These must be ordinary cut gems, not &amp;quot;large&amp;quot; gems.''&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Leather]] - &amp;quot;leather... skin&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;pictures of stacked leather&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
* Metal [[ore]] - &amp;quot;ore... particular ore&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;picture of an ore mine&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;the correct ore&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
* Metal [[bar]]s - &amp;quot;shining bars... metal&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;shining bars of metal&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
* Rough [[gem]]s - &amp;quot;rough... color&amp;quot;. ''Sometimes when they request rough gems they are looking for a specific type of raw [[glass]].''&lt;br /&gt;
* Raw crystal [[glass]] - &amp;quot;raw... crystal&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;rough gems and glass&amp;quot; (I think this is right.  I have raw types of both green and clear glass, but not crystal glass)&lt;br /&gt;
* Raw clear [[glass]] - &amp;quot;raw... clear&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;glass with burning wood&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Shell]] - &amp;quot;a shell&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Stone]] - &amp;quot;stone... rock&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;pictures of a quarry&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;the right stone&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
* Stone [[block]]s - &amp;quot;blocks... bricks&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;the proper surface to work on&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;square blocks&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
* [[Wood]] - &amp;quot;tree... life&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;pictures of a forest&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;a tree&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
* Dwarven bones/[[refuse|remains]] - &amp;quot;things... certain things&amp;quot;. ''This demand is only seen during &amp;quot;Macabre&amp;quot; moods.''&lt;br /&gt;
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Sometimes the required item(s) will be very specific (for instance, rough [[emerald]]s); other times, very general (leather from any type of creature). Sometimes when dwarves are waiting for a specific material, it will be listed in the dwarf's [[thought|thoughts and preferences]]. For instance, a dwarf that &amp;quot;likes platinum&amp;quot; will sometimes use one or more platinum nuggets in the construction of an artifact. This is not always the case, however, and they may want a completely unrelated item.{{verify}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Once the dwarf has assembled all the materials he or she needs, the game will announce that the dwarf &amp;quot;has begun a mysterious construction!&amp;quot;. The artifact should be completed within a day or two.&lt;br /&gt;
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Dwarves which have created an artifact will hold on to it for a very long time (or the loss of the limb in which it is held{{verify}}) after which one of three events can occur. &lt;br /&gt;
* The dwarf can become [[obsessed]] with the item and will keep hold of it until death.{{verify}}&lt;br /&gt;
* Become nervous and hide the artifact.{{verify}}&lt;br /&gt;
* Become uneasy and drop the artifact wherever he currently stands.{{verify}}&lt;br /&gt;
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If it is a heavy object (such as a floodgate), it will [[speed|slow]] them substantially unless they have several levels of [[strength]]. This is a bigger problem with a possessed dwarf, as the legendary status resulting from other moods will provide a good [[attributes|attribute]] boost.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Failure ===&lt;br /&gt;
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If you can't provide all the required items within a couple of months, the dwarf will go insane and cancel the artifact.  This [[insanity]] can take several forms:&lt;br /&gt;
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* Become melancholy. The dwarf will either refuse to eat or drink until dead, or drown themselves at some point.  They may also hurl themselves into the [[river]], [[chasm]], or [[magma]] immediately.{{verify}}&lt;br /&gt;
* Become a babbling wreck.  A dwarf experiencing this will drop all the items he or she is wearing, one by one, and eventually starve to death.&lt;br /&gt;
* Go on a murderous rampage.&lt;br /&gt;
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The first two outcomes are harmless (except to the moody dwarf, who will die), but you may want to station a squad nearby or assign a few war dogs to the dwarf on the chance that they will lash out.  If you build your workshops inside enclosed rooms (with doors), you can also lock the moody dwarf in the room until he or she starves.&lt;br /&gt;
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Anything that would cause the dwarf to cancel the strange mood job (like being attacked or having the workshop destroyed) will cause [[insanity]]. Note that the [[insanity]] can happen even when the dwarf is not deadlocked on an item; there have been observed instances where a dwarf goes insane while in the process of carrying a required item back to the commandeered workshop.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Types of strange moods ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The first message in the following sections is how the mood is [[announcements|announced]]; the second message appears in the dwarf's profile when he or she is ['''v''']iewed.  All dwarves in a strange mood will have &amp;quot;Strange Mood&amp;quot; listed as their active task.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Fey ===&lt;br /&gt;
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* ''Taken by a fey mood!''&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Has the aspect of one fey!''&lt;br /&gt;
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This is the basic strange mood.  Fey dwarves will clearly state their demands when the workshop they are in is examined.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Secretive ===&lt;br /&gt;
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* ''Withdraws from society...''&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Peculiarly secretive...''&lt;br /&gt;
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Secretive moods are the same as fey moods, except instead of loudly proclaiming his demands, a secretive dwarf will sketch his or her ideas.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Possessed ===&lt;br /&gt;
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* ''Has been possessed!''&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Possessed by unknown forces!''&lt;br /&gt;
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Possessed dwarves behave the same as fey dwarves, but will not gain any skill once the artifact is complete.  Their thoughts are also cryptic, but are harder to understand than dwarves who withdraw from society.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Fell ===&lt;br /&gt;
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* ''Looses a roaring laughter, fell and terrible!''&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Has a horrible fell look!''&lt;br /&gt;
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A dwarf that goes into a fell mood will take over a [[butcher's shop]] or a [[tanner's shop]] instead of one of the craft shops. The dwarf will then ''murder'' the nearest dwarf, drag the corpse into the shop and make some sort of object out of dwarf [[leather]] or [[bone]]. Once the artifact is completed, the fell dwarf will become a legendary Bone Carver or Leatherworker.  Strangely, none of the other dwarves seem to mind the murder. &lt;br /&gt;
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Aside from the potential loss of an important dwarf in the wrong place at the wrong time, there doesn't seem to be any downside to a fell mood. The end result is always an artifact and a legendary craftsdwarf. Since the only ingredient used (a dwarf) is available in abundance, a fell mood will only &amp;quot;fail&amp;quot; if a hermit has a horrible fell look or if the proper workshop does not exist.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Macabre ===&lt;br /&gt;
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* ''Begins to stalk and brood...''&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Brooding darkly...''&lt;br /&gt;
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Like a fell mood, above, but the dwarf will not murder a fellow dwarf.  A macabre dwarf may require dwarf bones, skulls, and chunks/remains; if you do not happen to have any, you will have to &amp;quot;make&amp;quot; some, or let the moody dwarf go insane.&lt;br /&gt;
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Fell and Macabre moods will only happen to dwarves which are [[Thoughts|unhappy]] at the time of entering a mood.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Multiple Moods ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Toady stated on [http://www.bay12games.com/cgi-local/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&amp;amp;f=7&amp;amp;t=000567 this] thread in the forum that two moods at once is a bug. Therefore, it is safe to assume that it is usually impossible to get more than one mood at once. Also, on the buglists: 000317 □ [dwarf mode][moods]   two mood dwarves at once&lt;br /&gt;
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== Unresolved questions ==&lt;br /&gt;
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* ''Does a larger number of dwarves in a fortress increase the chance of strange moods?''&lt;br /&gt;
** A fortress with a very small number of dwarves (1-3) can go many years without seeing any strange moods, so it would seem so.&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Can the same dwarf go into a strange mood more than once?''&lt;br /&gt;
** Presumably, they cannot.&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Can an already legendary dwarf go into a strange mood?''&lt;br /&gt;
** A Legendary dwarf that hasn't acquired legendary status via creating an artifact ''can'' go into a strange mood.&lt;br /&gt;
* ''How many strange moods can occur in a single fortress?''&lt;br /&gt;
** &amp;quot;There's a total growing limit based on how many items you've made and how many subterranean squares you've unhidden.&amp;quot; --[[Toady One]][[http://www.bay12games.com/cgi-local/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&amp;amp;f=7&amp;amp;t=002224]]&lt;br /&gt;
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Tacroy: /* Seekret Projekt */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== Current Build ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Interesting setup you've got there. I run something similar, though not completely abusive to game limits. (Leg+5 in everything? comeon! :P)&lt;br /&gt;
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Got one guy with proficient in everything, while the rest have no skills and are purely haulers and pre-dabbling farmers.&lt;br /&gt;
Hauling and farming were the only tasks I decided to free my 'hero' dwarf from, since they're so god-awfully time consuming.&lt;br /&gt;
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As for items: A single full suit of steel armor and one of each weapon, with only a handful of bolts, should an errant fire imp come over in the first season.&lt;br /&gt;
A couple dozen of each booze and both plump helmet and spawn, with 11 each of the remaining seeds.&lt;br /&gt;
Of course the mandatory 1 each of food and whatnot.&lt;br /&gt;
A hefty stock of giant cave spider thread to jumpstart my trading power (a single shoe will go for no less than 900 I think... initial investment is only 120p each)&lt;br /&gt;
A miscellany of assorted bars, wood, ores, and stone to spend the remaining points.&lt;br /&gt;
Also took along 3 wardogs for some additional protection and 10 cattle to get a herd going.&lt;br /&gt;
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All-in-all I limit myself to 32000 total points, as it's the highest clean number that the signed integer will accept in a once-off edit.&lt;br /&gt;
Also used adjust start to give me 10 dwarves, and set Max_Pop to only 7, so no immigrants unless I get really short on helpers.&lt;br /&gt;
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My guy's got something of a demi-god complex too, as his name is Master, the rest are named Servant, and the world is &amp;quot;Kôr Nòm&amp;quot; (Master of God). Remembered to look it up when I dabbled with the Regional Prospector ;)&lt;br /&gt;
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Anyways, saw that you had a very similar idea for a build and thought you might want to hear you're not the only one going for the &amp;quot;God and Servants&amp;quot; route ;)&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:n9103|n9103]] 01:49, 20 Dec 2007 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Search Function ==&lt;br /&gt;
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It may be helpful to make it clear the search function used in your version-independent code examples is a user-define function and is not associated with the STL search algorithm. I would also recommend posting the source files for search function, or commenting that they are available from the enable magma buildings zip file&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Masdus|Masdus]] 22:08, 28 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:That's a good point about search().  I've just renamed it hexsearch() in my most recent (not yet released) source.&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;I had started to document the search patterns in a more generic way, but decided that (a) it took me too long to translate, and (b) few of the target audience would be able and willing to retranslate into their own search-like functions.  So I just started cutting and pasting patterns out of my source.&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;As for posing the source to hexsearch(), I think that the target audience can track it down.  (If we could host arbitrary files directly on this wiki, I would.  I just think it's too big to put into a &amp;amp;lt;code&amp;amp;gt; block.)&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&amp;amp;mdash;[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 16:17, 29 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Seekret Projekt ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Wow, just tried it out and it works great in 33g. It's amazing the way it reveals the locations of all major features on every map square. I've only briefly checked it out, but I picked a 5x5 area which your tool revealed to have 2 magma vents, an underground water pool, adamantine, and part of a chasm. After embarking and running reveal.exe I confirmed that all features shown by your tool matched the features available and the correct locations. Your tool will make looking for good starting locations at least 5000x easier, considering you can see every single feature location when selecting where to embark. No need to embark and run reveal to find where the major features (especially adamantine) are. Truly great work. --[[User:Janus|Janus]] 21:53, 22 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Great!  Good to hear.  I am particularly interested in any feature that reveal turns up but was not shown by this tool.  Also if you see a question mark in the local map view, please report that.  (If at all possible, with world-seed and a screenshot showing the X cursors.)&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;Off on a tangent, what should I call it?  FeatureFinder?  feature-finder, with a dash?  Regional Prospector?&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&amp;amp;mdash;[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 22:15, 22 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I've scanned around a fair bit on a couple of my current world maps and didn't come across any question mark squares. I have noted that caves don't show up. I don't know whether you could locate them in memory the same way as the map features though, since they're probably generated and allocated differently. I can provide a seed and location with a kobold cave if you need it.&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;As for the name, FeatureFinder is concise, but the name &amp;quot;Regional Prospector&amp;quot; gives a better general idea of what it does. I like that one, particularly the &amp;quot;prospector&amp;quot; part. --[[User:Janus|Janus]] 23:02, 22 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I didn't even think of caves.  Yes, I'd like the seed and location.  I can't promise anything though.  I think caves are not a per-tile thing.&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&amp;amp;mdash;[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 23:08, 22 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Understandable. Here it is, the world seed is 7810 as posted in the description: [[:Image:Local_Kobold_Cave.png]] --[[User:Janus|Janus]] 00:47, 23 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I don't think I can do caves.  It's gotta be stored somewhere, but it's not in the place that this tool looks.  I will keep an eye out.&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Not a total loss, though, because I found a bug from looking at this map: the tool is not displaying underground rivers.  Easy fix, but I'm not going to do a new beta version just to fix that one.&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I also saw some interesting behavior from DF's map sizing.  If you choose a 2x2 with that volcano at top left, you get a 2x2.  But if you choose a 3x3 with volcano at top left, you get a 5x5 with volcano at middle left.  It looks like either the chasm or the cave triggers this, even though the chasm is entirely out of the 3x3 selection, and the cave appears to be built so that it is out of the selection as well.  I need to play with this some more.&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&amp;amp;mdash;[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 01:53, 23 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Just wanted to chime in and say I vote for Regional Prospector.--[[User:N9103|N9103]] 16:05, 23 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm impressed. I didn't even realise the features were in memory before you embarked into areas. This baby finds chasms, lakes, adamantine, and the smaller magma lakes that never showed up on the map. Finding good start locations has never been easier. Before I was having to find squares with good minerals and then just embark on the entire map and reveal it all to see if it had good features, with this you can just look at a glance. The only things I see missing are the caves and cave rivers, which you two already noticed. No errors so far, I'll report any if I find any. Thanks for a great tool. Also, I think FeatureFinder is a fitting name. - [[User:Paul|Paul]] 12:55, 23 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I may have found a bug. Your utility shows a magma pool right next to a goblin tower, but upon reveal, it doesn't appear to exist. The seed is 3590640052 and the location is [http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/2849/misleadingmagmaia0.png here]. I have to say, though, that overall this is a fantastic utility- the most useful external program for this game since reveal. Heck, it's probably better than reveal in the long run. Thank you for finally allowing me to satisfy my OCD. --[[User:Eiba|Eiba]] 14:06, 24 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yes, I get the same behavior.  I didn't actually check with a debugger, but I checked with my test version, and it's definately flagged by the game for being a magma pool.&lt;br /&gt;
::[[Image:0x517A5D_Eiba%27s_bug_report_location.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
:I actually suspect that this is correct (if unexpected) behavior: the game's local-map generator is preventing features from being generated under or too close to civilization areas.  It might be worth exploring other towns with a feature next to them.  Anyway, I don't think I can do anything about this... it's just one of those things, y'know?&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;And good luck with that OCD; this utility made mine worse.  (I just &amp;lt;i&amp;gt;know&amp;lt;/i&amp;gt; that if I keep looking, I'll find a 4x4 limestone magma water chasm pits trees haunted location.)&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&amp;amp;mdash;[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 15:27, 24 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::So I was looking all over for the discussion of this thing - and I just got to hand it to you - you just saved countless hours of my life looking for the perfect starting location. Holy shit this is awesome. I could practically open-mouth kiss you. *cough&lt;br /&gt;
:::I can verify cavelakes and whatnot are revealed :) Anyhow, thanks - and I'm surprised that there aren't too many raving posts on the forums about this. (I'll also give you a heads up if I find that legendary adamantine/magma/trees/chasm/flux/sand epic location in a terrifying 5x5 or less) --[[User:KaelGotRice|KaelGotRice]] 00:43, 26 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::You should post about this tool in the forums! [[User:Bartavelle|Bartavelle]] 06:17, 27 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Great frickin' utility.  If I find that haunted superdense 4x4 I'll let you know, I've been looking for it too.  (Terrifying's even better, as it is evil + savage.)&lt;br /&gt;
::Small request: add a &amp;quot;map legend&amp;quot; to the Utilities page or include one in the zip.  I've never seen those numbers displayed in the above screenshot, just #s and ~s.&lt;br /&gt;
::I saw one map where a red single ~ next to a long set of #s didn't turn up magma at any depth, so what you say about the local-map generator probably applies to features other than civilizations.--[[User:Maximus|Maximus]] 19:49, 26 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::A map key is a good idea.  I'll package one with the next release, and I'll throw up a quick one one on the utilities page as well.&lt;br /&gt;
:::The numbers in the screenshot are from my initial alpha test version, which I never released.  Do you think that I should put them in the normal tool, as an alternate display mode?  I thought they wouldn't be useful.&lt;br /&gt;
:::Was there any feature where the magma should have been?  Could it have drained out into the chasm?  If you still have the seed and location, I'll look at it.&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&amp;amp;mdash;[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 20:02, 26 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Seed 92001, generated under .33e, I think.  [[:Image:92001_busy.png]]  It didn't drain into the chasm; there's no &amp;quot;empty space&amp;quot; anywhere in the column indicated by RP.  This is a really nice location btw; two chasms, surface and underground river and lake, steel, sand, pits, and my favorite, skeletal elephants.  There's over 200 hostiles on the map right at the outset.  However, the pits/cave river and magma/elephants are not near each other, requiring a starting location at least 7x10.&lt;br /&gt;
::::I don't think having RP display numbers is necessary.  I assume they indicate depth -- I'd rather know nothing about the actual placement of things as long as I know the grid contains the features I want.&lt;br /&gt;
::::Say, maybe you could create an automated map-searcher where you tick off what features you want and the searcher identifies starting locations containing them without telling you exactly where each feature is...--[[User:Maximus|Maximus]] 22:44, 26 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::The numbers are the internal feature flag value.  2, for instance, is cave pool.  I have been pondering such a map searcher.  It would require extremely intimate knowledge of the internal map representation, which is presently beyond me.  Regional Prospector does its magic by hooking into the drawing of each map cell, so it doesn't have to traverse the data structures itself.&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&amp;amp;mdash;[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 22:59, 26 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::If you're just hooking into the drawing of a map cell, couldn't you also add a call to something that would keep track of where, for instance, magma vents are? Something like that would make Ziusudra's magma search utility a lot faster; instead of waiting a quarter second and looking through the screen, such a search utility would scan across the map as fast as the game can update.&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&amp;amp;mdash;[[User:Tacroy|Tacroy]] 00:16, 31 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::Maybe... Hmm.  Maybe.  I could make a list with little problem.  The hard part would be getting the info out.  I immediately envision a co-process, probably a custom debugger, that collects the information from code tweaks in DF.  And either that program, or an AHK script, would feed input to DF to traverse the map.  Hmm.  Really, this sounds like a project that's a couple orders of magnitude harder than RP was.  With RP, I just inject a few lines of carefully written assembly code.  Debuggers are hard.  Interesting idea, though.  Also, nice m-dash.&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&amp;amp;mdash;[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 01:24, 31 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::I only copy from the best :) But anyway, as long as you're injecting assembly code, couldn't you extend it to open a file and write out the interesting features it finds? This probably wouldn't work if you're limited to a certain amount of injected code; I have to say that I have absolutely no idea whether or not this would work as I've never done anything with x86 assembly, nor have I ever messed around with injecting code into memory.&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&amp;amp;mdash;[[User:Tacroy|Tacroy]] 23:03, 31 December 2007 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Tacroy</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:0x517A5D&amp;diff=29958</id>
		<title>User talk:0x517A5D</title>
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		<updated>2007-12-31T05:16:37Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Tacroy: /* Seekret Projekt */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== Current Build ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Interesting setup you've got there. I run something similar, though not completely abusive to game limits. (Leg+5 in everything? comeon! :P)&lt;br /&gt;
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Got one guy with proficient in everything, while the rest have no skills and are purely haulers and pre-dabbling farmers.&lt;br /&gt;
Hauling and farming were the only tasks I decided to free my 'hero' dwarf from, since they're so god-awfully time consuming.&lt;br /&gt;
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As for items: A single full suit of steel armor and one of each weapon, with only a handful of bolts, should an errant fire imp come over in the first season.&lt;br /&gt;
A couple dozen of each booze and both plump helmet and spawn, with 11 each of the remaining seeds.&lt;br /&gt;
Of course the mandatory 1 each of food and whatnot.&lt;br /&gt;
A hefty stock of giant cave spider thread to jumpstart my trading power (a single shoe will go for no less than 900 I think... initial investment is only 120p each)&lt;br /&gt;
A miscellany of assorted bars, wood, ores, and stone to spend the remaining points.&lt;br /&gt;
Also took along 3 wardogs for some additional protection and 10 cattle to get a herd going.&lt;br /&gt;
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All-in-all I limit myself to 32000 total points, as it's the highest clean number that the signed integer will accept in a once-off edit.&lt;br /&gt;
Also used adjust start to give me 10 dwarves, and set Max_Pop to only 7, so no immigrants unless I get really short on helpers.&lt;br /&gt;
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My guy's got something of a demi-god complex too, as his name is Master, the rest are named Servant, and the world is &amp;quot;Kôr Nòm&amp;quot; (Master of God). Remembered to look it up when I dabbled with the Regional Prospector ;)&lt;br /&gt;
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Anyways, saw that you had a very similar idea for a build and thought you might want to hear you're not the only one going for the &amp;quot;God and Servants&amp;quot; route ;)&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:n9103|n9103]] 01:49, 20 Dec 2007 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Search Function ==&lt;br /&gt;
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It may be helpful to make it clear the search function used in your version-independent code examples is a user-define function and is not associated with the STL search algorithm. I would also recommend posting the source files for search function, or commenting that they are available from the enable magma buildings zip file&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Masdus|Masdus]] 22:08, 28 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:That's a good point about search().  I've just renamed it hexsearch() in my most recent (not yet released) source.&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;I had started to document the search patterns in a more generic way, but decided that (a) it took me too long to translate, and (b) few of the target audience would be able and willing to retranslate into their own search-like functions.  So I just started cutting and pasting patterns out of my source.&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;As for posing the source to hexsearch(), I think that the target audience can track it down.  (If we could host arbitrary files directly on this wiki, I would.  I just think it's too big to put into a &amp;amp;lt;code&amp;amp;gt; block.)&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&amp;amp;mdash;[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 16:17, 29 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Seekret Projekt ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Wow, just tried it out and it works great in 33g. It's amazing the way it reveals the locations of all major features on every map square. I've only briefly checked it out, but I picked a 5x5 area which your tool revealed to have 2 magma vents, an underground water pool, adamantine, and part of a chasm. After embarking and running reveal.exe I confirmed that all features shown by your tool matched the features available and the correct locations. Your tool will make looking for good starting locations at least 5000x easier, considering you can see every single feature location when selecting where to embark. No need to embark and run reveal to find where the major features (especially adamantine) are. Truly great work. --[[User:Janus|Janus]] 21:53, 22 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Great!  Good to hear.  I am particularly interested in any feature that reveal turns up but was not shown by this tool.  Also if you see a question mark in the local map view, please report that.  (If at all possible, with world-seed and a screenshot showing the X cursors.)&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;Off on a tangent, what should I call it?  FeatureFinder?  feature-finder, with a dash?  Regional Prospector?&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&amp;amp;mdash;[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 22:15, 22 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I've scanned around a fair bit on a couple of my current world maps and didn't come across any question mark squares. I have noted that caves don't show up. I don't know whether you could locate them in memory the same way as the map features though, since they're probably generated and allocated differently. I can provide a seed and location with a kobold cave if you need it.&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;As for the name, FeatureFinder is concise, but the name &amp;quot;Regional Prospector&amp;quot; gives a better general idea of what it does. I like that one, particularly the &amp;quot;prospector&amp;quot; part. --[[User:Janus|Janus]] 23:02, 22 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I didn't even think of caves.  Yes, I'd like the seed and location.  I can't promise anything though.  I think caves are not a per-tile thing.&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&amp;amp;mdash;[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 23:08, 22 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Understandable. Here it is, the world seed is 7810 as posted in the description: [[:Image:Local_Kobold_Cave.png]] --[[User:Janus|Janus]] 00:47, 23 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I don't think I can do caves.  It's gotta be stored somewhere, but it's not in the place that this tool looks.  I will keep an eye out.&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Not a total loss, though, because I found a bug from looking at this map: the tool is not displaying underground rivers.  Easy fix, but I'm not going to do a new beta version just to fix that one.&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I also saw some interesting behavior from DF's map sizing.  If you choose a 2x2 with that volcano at top left, you get a 2x2.  But if you choose a 3x3 with volcano at top left, you get a 5x5 with volcano at middle left.  It looks like either the chasm or the cave triggers this, even though the chasm is entirely out of the 3x3 selection, and the cave appears to be built so that it is out of the selection as well.  I need to play with this some more.&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&amp;amp;mdash;[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 01:53, 23 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Just wanted to chime in and say I vote for Regional Prospector.--[[User:N9103|N9103]] 16:05, 23 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm impressed. I didn't even realise the features were in memory before you embarked into areas. This baby finds chasms, lakes, adamantine, and the smaller magma lakes that never showed up on the map. Finding good start locations has never been easier. Before I was having to find squares with good minerals and then just embark on the entire map and reveal it all to see if it had good features, with this you can just look at a glance. The only things I see missing are the caves and cave rivers, which you two already noticed. No errors so far, I'll report any if I find any. Thanks for a great tool. Also, I think FeatureFinder is a fitting name. - [[User:Paul|Paul]] 12:55, 23 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I may have found a bug. Your utility shows a magma pool right next to a goblin tower, but upon reveal, it doesn't appear to exist. The seed is 3590640052 and the location is [http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/2849/misleadingmagmaia0.png here]. I have to say, though, that overall this is a fantastic utility- the most useful external program for this game since reveal. Heck, it's probably better than reveal in the long run. Thank you for finally allowing me to satisfy my OCD. --[[User:Eiba|Eiba]] 14:06, 24 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yes, I get the same behavior.  I didn't actually check with a debugger, but I checked with my test version, and it's definately flagged by the game for being a magma pool.&lt;br /&gt;
::[[Image:0x517A5D_Eiba%27s_bug_report_location.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
:I actually suspect that this is correct (if unexpected) behavior: the game's local-map generator is preventing features from being generated under or too close to civilization areas.  It might be worth exploring other towns with a feature next to them.  Anyway, I don't think I can do anything about this... it's just one of those things, y'know?&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;And good luck with that OCD; this utility made mine worse.  (I just &amp;lt;i&amp;gt;know&amp;lt;/i&amp;gt; that if I keep looking, I'll find a 4x4 limestone magma water chasm pits trees haunted location.)&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&amp;amp;mdash;[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 15:27, 24 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::So I was looking all over for the discussion of this thing - and I just got to hand it to you - you just saved countless hours of my life looking for the perfect starting location. Holy shit this is awesome. I could practically open-mouth kiss you. *cough&lt;br /&gt;
:::I can verify cavelakes and whatnot are revealed :) Anyhow, thanks - and I'm surprised that there aren't too many raving posts on the forums about this. (I'll also give you a heads up if I find that legendary adamantine/magma/trees/chasm/flux/sand epic location in a terrifying 5x5 or less) --[[User:KaelGotRice|KaelGotRice]] 00:43, 26 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::You should post about this tool in the forums! [[User:Bartavelle|Bartavelle]] 06:17, 27 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Great frickin' utility.  If I find that haunted superdense 4x4 I'll let you know, I've been looking for it too.  (Terrifying's even better, as it is evil + savage.)&lt;br /&gt;
::Small request: add a &amp;quot;map legend&amp;quot; to the Utilities page or include one in the zip.  I've never seen those numbers displayed in the above screenshot, just #s and ~s.&lt;br /&gt;
::I saw one map where a red single ~ next to a long set of #s didn't turn up magma at any depth, so what you say about the local-map generator probably applies to features other than civilizations.--[[User:Maximus|Maximus]] 19:49, 26 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::A map key is a good idea.  I'll package one with the next release, and I'll throw up a quick one one on the utilities page as well.&lt;br /&gt;
:::The numbers in the screenshot are from my initial alpha test version, which I never released.  Do you think that I should put them in the normal tool, as an alternate display mode?  I thought they wouldn't be useful.&lt;br /&gt;
:::Was there any feature where the magma should have been?  Could it have drained out into the chasm?  If you still have the seed and location, I'll look at it.&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&amp;amp;mdash;[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 20:02, 26 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Seed 92001, generated under .33e, I think.  [[:Image:92001_busy.png]]  It didn't drain into the chasm; there's no &amp;quot;empty space&amp;quot; anywhere in the column indicated by RP.  This is a really nice location btw; two chasms, surface and underground river and lake, steel, sand, pits, and my favorite, skeletal elephants.  There's over 200 hostiles on the map right at the outset.  However, the pits/cave river and magma/elephants are not near each other, requiring a starting location at least 7x10.&lt;br /&gt;
::::I don't think having RP display numbers is necessary.  I assume they indicate depth -- I'd rather know nothing about the actual placement of things as long as I know the grid contains the features I want.&lt;br /&gt;
::::Say, maybe you could create an automated map-searcher where you tick off what features you want and the searcher identifies starting locations containing them without telling you exactly where each feature is...--[[User:Maximus|Maximus]] 22:44, 26 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::The numbers are the internal feature flag value.  2, for instance, is cave pool.  I have been pondering such a map searcher.  It would require extremely intimate knowledge of the internal map representation, which is presently beyond me.  Regional Prospector does its magic by hooking into the drawing of each map cell, so it doesn't have to traverse the data structures itself.&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&amp;amp;mdash;[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 22:59, 26 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::If you're just hooking into the drawing of a map cell, couldn't you also add a call to something that would keep track of where, for instance, magma vents are? Something like that would make Ziusudra's magma search utility a lot faster; instead of waiting a quarter second and looking through the screen, such a search utility would scan across the map as fast as the game can update.&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&amp;amp;mdash;[[User:Tacroy|Tacroy]] 00:16, 31 December 2007 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Tacroy</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d_Talk:Aquifer&amp;diff=11485</id>
		<title>40d Talk:Aquifer</title>
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		<updated>2007-12-14T12:33:37Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Tacroy: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Toady mentioned somewhere that, at the moment, only subterrainian water sources can grow towercaps. He then explicitly mentioned underground rivers and lakes, but would an aquifer work as well? If so, given the scarcity of underground water sources, this would provide another bonus to having an aquifer.[[User:Thexor|Thexor]] 20:10, 31 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: I don't believe they count.  AFAIK, it applies only to standing water. --[[User:JT|JT]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== My plan for dealing with an aquifer ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The DF Map Archive has never worked for me, so I was unable to make use of the link to the example.&lt;br /&gt;
Also, I was playing on a map entirely covered in a layer of aquifer, so I couldn't mine any stone for mechanism purposes.&lt;br /&gt;
Fortunately, I had tons and tons of wood (if you're gonna be on an aquifer map, you might as well get a heavily forested one)&lt;br /&gt;
I discovered that because of the way mechanical buildings are handled, you can use a pump as a pretty reasonable surrogate for gear assemblies - and currently, you don't need stone to make pumps, because wood blocks can be used in place of stone blocks.&lt;br /&gt;
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So, here's how I dealt with the aquifer:&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
          &lt;br /&gt;
Legend: &lt;br /&gt;
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  |&lt;br /&gt;
^,V,&amp;lt;-,-&amp;gt;: Pumps, oriented to pump from dash to &amp;quot;arrow&amp;quot; point for clarity&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
w: water-filled channel&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;: down stairway&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;: up stairway&lt;br /&gt;
X: up/down stairway&lt;br /&gt;
=,ǁ: horizontal axles&lt;br /&gt;
#: normal walls&lt;br /&gt;
*: banks of waterwheels (with channels dug under them, of course. Build the horizontal axle first so they'll hang off it)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A note: the amount of effort it takes to wall off a square with this method &lt;br /&gt;
is pretty much constant with regard to size, which means that it's better to build a great&lt;br /&gt;
big aquifer-free area and not need most of it than to build a small one and realize you're &lt;br /&gt;
gonna have to expand it. Also, great big ridiculous projects are more fun!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
So, to build one wall of the new floor (I ended up doing both parallel walls at the same time):&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
##########################&lt;br /&gt;
#.wwww&amp;gt;..................#&lt;br /&gt;
#.w&amp;lt;-ww-&amp;gt;w...............#&lt;br /&gt;
#.w&amp;lt;-ww-&amp;gt;w...............#&lt;br /&gt;
#.w&amp;lt;-ww-&amp;gt;w...............#&lt;br /&gt;
#.w&amp;lt;-ww-&amp;gt;w...............#&lt;br /&gt;
.... repeat until you will be clearing out enough space.&lt;br /&gt;
#.w&amp;lt;-ww-&amp;gt;w...............#&lt;br /&gt;
#.w&amp;lt;-ww-&amp;gt;w...............#&lt;br /&gt;
#.w&amp;lt;-ww-&amp;gt;w...............#&lt;br /&gt;
#.wǁ..&amp;gt;ǁ.................#     The O-SHID (Occupational Safety and Health Inspection Dwarf) &lt;br /&gt;
#.wǁ...ǁ.................# &amp;lt;== requires that these axles be built last in order to  &lt;br /&gt;
#.wǁ...ǁ.................# &amp;lt;== minimize death by drowning, accidental flooding of the fortress,&lt;br /&gt;
#.wǁ...ǁ.................#     and carp-related incidents.&lt;br /&gt;
#.wǁ...ǁ.................#&lt;br /&gt;
#.w^===^==============^..#     &lt;br /&gt;
#.w|...|..............|..#&lt;br /&gt;
#.wǁ..................ǁ..# &amp;lt;== These axles are a bit important. I didn't use them once &lt;br /&gt;
#.***wwwwwwwwwwwwwwww***.#     but had north-facing pumps, and nearly flooded the excavation room.&lt;br /&gt;
#.***................***.#     Also, they're what keeps the waterwheel from collapsing&lt;br /&gt;
#.***................***.#&lt;br /&gt;
#.***................***.#&lt;br /&gt;
##########################&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You can easily add more waterwheels to the south if you need moar powah.&lt;br /&gt;
If they haven't started yet, you can prime the waterwheels by running &lt;br /&gt;
one of the pumps manually for a few seconds.&lt;br /&gt;
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Going from left to right (again, I did the two parallel walls here simultaneously):&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
##########################&lt;br /&gt;
#........................#&lt;br /&gt;
#..wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.#&lt;br /&gt;
#..^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^.#&lt;br /&gt;
#..|||||||||||||||||||||.#&lt;br /&gt;
#.&amp;gt;ǁwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.#&lt;br /&gt;
#.wǁwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.#&lt;br /&gt;
#.w|||||||||||||||||||||.#&lt;br /&gt;
#.wvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv.#&lt;br /&gt;
#.wǁwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww..# &amp;lt;= Even though you can't see it (not even in-game!)&lt;br /&gt;
#.wǁ.....................#    there's channels under the axle here and above. &lt;br /&gt;
#.wǁ.....................#    They're fine just hanging out as long as they're  &lt;br /&gt;
#.wǁ.....................#    between two mechanisms&lt;br /&gt;
#.wǁ.....................#&lt;br /&gt;
#.w^===^==============^..#     &lt;br /&gt;
#.w|...|..............|..#&lt;br /&gt;
#.wǁ..................ǁ..# &lt;br /&gt;
#.***wwwwwwwwwwwwwwww***.# &lt;br /&gt;
#.***................***.#&lt;br /&gt;
#.***................***.#&lt;br /&gt;
#.***................***.#&lt;br /&gt;
##########################&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Note that when you rotate 90 degrees and start working on the new walls, you'll almost &lt;br /&gt;
certainly have to re-floor some aquifer channels.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You'll want to make the inside of the pumped out area look like this:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 ###&lt;br /&gt;
##&amp;lt;#&lt;br /&gt;
#++#&lt;br /&gt;
#+X#&lt;br /&gt;
#+.#&lt;br /&gt;
#+.#&lt;br /&gt;
#+.#&lt;br /&gt;
#+.#&lt;br /&gt;
#+.#&lt;br /&gt;
#+.#&lt;br /&gt;
#+X#&lt;br /&gt;
#++#&lt;br /&gt;
##&amp;lt;#&lt;br /&gt;
 ###&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Which means queue up the up/down stairways and the walls on the left side first, then&lt;br /&gt;
the two walls on the right. Water can flow through corners, but dwarves can't build &lt;br /&gt;
through that tight gap. You put in two stairways, one near each end, so that when &lt;br /&gt;
you rotate 90 degrees and do it again in the other direction you'll have a stairway pre-built.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The main benefit of this two-pump system is that, in my experience, it minimizes the&lt;br /&gt;
amount of micromanagement you'll be doing. I found that I only had to unsuspend each&lt;br /&gt;
wall (that is, the entire thing, not individual segments) four or five times before it&lt;br /&gt;
was done, with the most egregious bits being the end walls (which is understandable,&lt;br /&gt;
they've got an unpumped area next to them).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It does leak a very little bit; you should expect splatterings of 1 and 2 depth water all &lt;br /&gt;
over the place. If you see anything deeper over a non-channel square, something's sprung a &lt;br /&gt;
leak and it's time to call in the O-SHID and shut everything down.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Note that your re-walling dwarves will be quite happy most of the time, what with all the &lt;br /&gt;
mist they'll be walking through constantly.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Once you've got a square bit of area blocked off, you'll have to shift a bank of pumps back &lt;br /&gt;
one square, dig out all the remaining aquifer tiles in the center, and pump out the remaining &lt;br /&gt;
water. Then dig downward and hope you don't have to do this again!&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Anyway, I hope this is useful. I didn't put it this on the main article because it's like four AM here. [[User:Tacroy|Tacroy]] 07:33, 14 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== notes from nov1 version ==&lt;br /&gt;
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this is a cleaned-up chat log from #bay12games on Nov 01 11:07 (PST).  Pasting it here until the information works its way in to the wiki page.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;sinoth&amp;gt; VeryInky: you seem to be the aquifer expert.  have you found a way to get around them without magma?&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;VeryInky&amp;gt; [[Pump|Pumps]]. But pumps require stone. If you have access to stone, the aquifer shouldn't be that much of a problem.  The key draining the aquifer square, then building floodgate.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;sinoth&amp;gt; so the aquifer has a finite amount of water in it, unlike brooks and rivers?&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;VeryInky&amp;gt; Unlimited.  It's an infinite water source.  It's been sort of fixed in the new version, so getting past the aquifer is much easier.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;sinoth&amp;gt; what changed to make it easier? don't see it on the dev_notes&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;VeryInky&amp;gt; Non dirt squares no longer automatically refill.  IN other words, it's now possible to make a wall and block the aquifer.  So you can build deeper; wasn't possible before.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;sinoth&amp;gt; ah ok, thanks much :)&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;VeryInky&amp;gt; It's none the less MUCH easier with magma. Dig channels until you reach the aquifer, then divert magma into it. It turns into solid obsidian and you can just continue on.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;sinoth&amp;gt; i wasn't aware you could build pumps solely with stone.  don't you need the [[enormous corkscrew|screw thing]], made out of metal or wood?&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;VeryInky&amp;gt; Requires a stone, but you can make the screw and pipes out of wood.&lt;br /&gt;
The problem is getting that stone.  A stone.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Unmarked Aquifer? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is it possible to have an aquifer if it was not listed on the pick an area screen? Normally if you are going to enter an area with an aquifer, I have noticed that it shows you with a band of blue at the level that it is located, and the game asks if you are sure you want to settle there. In my case, there was no aquifer listed, and I received no warning, but I cannot go below a layer of yellow sand without hitting Damp Stone (actually it is Damp Loam)&lt;br /&gt;
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The map does have a river, do you get Aquifer with a river automatically?&lt;br /&gt;
:You only get information on the square that your local area is centered on. Thus you can have an aquifer on part of the map without it being listed. --[[User:Ikkonoishi|Ikkonoishi]] 21:12, 6 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yeah, I had a section of chalk containing an unmarked aquifer in a mostly igneous area.. luckily I was able to just dig around it. [[User:Anydwarf|Anydwarf]] 01:57, 8 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Stone method==&lt;br /&gt;
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Some maps have an aquifer that doesn't span all of the map's biomes, in which case the aquifer is easy to avoid by paying attention to where the different biomes are situated.  Is that what this section is referring to, or can there really be &amp;quot;holes&amp;quot; in an aquifer? --[[User:Peristarkawan|Peristarkawan]] 02:46, 3 November 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I have found rock pockets in an aquifer that were dry.  They are rare and hard to find, when they are there at all.  [[User:Geekwad|Geekwad]] 17:05, 6 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Rumours on the ofurms are that ore squares don't generate water, so if you can find enough in one place you can dig through them.  I don't know if this is accurate. --[[User:Lacero|Lacero]] 05:46, 8 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Related threads ==&lt;br /&gt;
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More threads on aquifers:&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.bay12games.com/cgi-local/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&amp;amp;f=11&amp;amp;t=000852 aquifer pumping?]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.bay12games.com/cgi-local/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&amp;amp;f=11&amp;amp;t=000865 How-to: Get past the aquifer with pumps]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d:Magma_forge&amp;diff=23218</id>
		<title>40d:Magma forge</title>
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		<updated>2007-11-14T23:55:31Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Tacroy: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{Workshop|name=Magma forge|key=?|job= Weaponsmith]], [[Armorsmith]], [[Metalsmith]], [[Crossbow-making]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Stone]] or [[block|Stone blocks]]{{verify}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Weaponsmith|Weaponsmithing]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Armorsmith|Armoring]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Metalsmith|Blacksmithing]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Metal crafter|Metalcrafting]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Crossbow-making]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[metal|Metal bars]]&lt;br /&gt;
|production=&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Crafts]] - X3 from one metal bar.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Goblet]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Toy]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Instrument]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Flask]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Coins]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Stud]]&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
A magma forge is a simple [[metalsmith's forge]] with the ability to be used without [[charcoal]] or other resources as fuel as long as it has magma nearby.&lt;br /&gt;
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More specifically, &amp;quot;nearby&amp;quot; means that at least one of its eight edge squares hangs over a hole which has magma at a depth of at least 4 on the level below.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Buildings}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Buildings]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Workshops]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Tacroy</name></author>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d_Talk:Magma_forge&amp;diff=26441</id>
		<title>40d Talk:Magma forge</title>
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		<updated>2007-11-14T23:55:08Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Tacroy: New page: == Operational Magma Depth ==  More specifically, &amp;quot;nearby&amp;quot; means that at least one of its eight edge squares hangs over a hole which has magma at a depth of at least 4 on the level below. ...&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== Operational Magma Depth ==&lt;br /&gt;
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More specifically, &amp;quot;nearby&amp;quot; means that at least one of its eight edge squares hangs over a hole which has magma at a depth of at least 4 on the level below. &amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:Verify - I've got a magma forge at the moment over 3 lava squares and it's not working, while the smelter next to it is. I think the building has to have at least one of those red circles over lava. Juckto 15:48, 14 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Sorry for moving this comment off the actual page, but this sort of thing is supposed to go in Talk. Anyway, I'm 100% certain of this information. &lt;br /&gt;
::Firstly, you're wrong about the &amp;quot;building has to have at least one red circle over lava&amp;quot; bit; the game explicitly says &amp;quot;At least one of the eight boundary squares must be over lava&amp;quot; when a magma building is not operational, and I've built a working magma forge whose upper-left corner is the only part over magma.&lt;br /&gt;
::Secondly, I built a tube to get magma over to my mineral deposits, on the other side of the map. I built a bunch of smelters and a couple of magma forges over it, and noticed that eventually they started flickering on and off. When I looked underneath, I saw that the entire tube in the area was at a depth of three or four, and the depths were shifting around like they do in water. The workshops only turned on when the depth under their open square was four.&lt;br /&gt;
::It's possible that if a magma workshop has more than one open area, the depth required to operate it is reduced. I wouldn't know. [[User:Tacroy|Tacroy]] 18:55, 14 November 2007 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Tacroy</name></author>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d:Magma_forge&amp;diff=23213</id>
		<title>40d:Magma forge</title>
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		<updated>2007-11-14T04:36:48Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Tacroy: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;A magma forge is a simple [[metalsmith's forge]] with the ability to be used without [[charcoal]] or other resources as fuel as long as it has magma nearby.&lt;br /&gt;
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More specifically, &amp;quot;nearby&amp;quot; means that at least one of its eight edge squares hangs over a hole which has magma at a depth of at least 4 on the level below.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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