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		<title>40d Talk:Baron</title>
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		<updated>2009-05-07T22:45:34Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Rwindmtg: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;I've had a Baron (and Hammerer and Tax Collector) arrive when my population was exactly 80 and when my population was capped in the init.txt file at 80.  I'm confident that the requirement of 100 people is wrong.  [[User:Bouchart|Bouchart]] 13:07, 12 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Likewise, my current fortress has 134 people and 1.5M in created wealth, but no baron.  I'm reasonably certain this must be some sort of weighted random arrival. --[[User:Sebbekai|Sebbekai]] 18:22, 6 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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2.5 Millon wealth, 232 dwarfs, 4K exported wealth. Last year I did all the jobs required, certain of that. I can only think its my exported wealth. I'm guna try raising it to just over 10K, do the jobs again and wait. Think this should be added to the wiki page, give a rough estimate of the number if i do get a migrant baron next year. (My populatin cap is 400 at the moment)--[[User:Cultiststeve|cultiststeve]] 16:16, 9 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Oops, I killed the consort ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The consort was making mandates I could not satisfy, so he had to go. This has caused some kind of problem though... my fortress will not upgrade to a county so I can get the king. I am considering killing my baroness as well, and attempting to reset the whole situation. Any suggestions? --[[User:Wafl|Wafl]] 01:15, 17 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Kiilll them! Kiiilll them! Kiiilllll them alllll! --[[User:Savok|Savok]] 09:52, 30 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hammerer and tax collector ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Do the hammerer and tax collector always arrive along with the Baron? --[[User:Strangething|Strangething]] 18:26, 8 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I Don't think that its Always the case but it seems to frequently be the case for me; all of my forts that I allow nobles they tend to show up together. --Silver&lt;br /&gt;
:I suspect that some are prerequisite for the others, i.e. would a baron ever show up at a fort that didn't have a tax collector? --[[User:Corona688|Corona688]] 00:38, 23 December 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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They do come at the same time. Heck, my baron appeared first, even. But no, I think that the article has it correct.--[[User:Destor|Destor]] 19:47, 24 December 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I got the [[King]] as a peasant due to discovering [[Adamantine]]. I don't appear to be getting a Baron, tax collector, hammerer or a royal guard. Is this a bug? -[[User:Rushyo|Rushyo]] 21:54, 28 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The peasant king happens independently of other nobles in my experience. [[User:HeWhoIsPale|HeWhoIsPale]] 09:58, 11 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Minimum Exported Wealth? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Im pretty sure there's gotta be a Minimum exported wealth for the baron to arrive, I satisfy all the other conditions, and have over 1.6 million created wealth, 163 dwarves,  and my dwarves do well over the job requirements. However, I as of now, only have 30426 Exported wealth. --[[User:OmegaX|OmegaX]] 16:13, 16 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Duke arrived at 32435 exported wealth. No baron yet. --[[User:OmegaX|OmegaX]] 00:37, 17 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:That's because the Duke is an 'upgraded' version of the count, which is an 'upgraded' version of the baron. Once you have a Duke, you won't ever get a Baron. [[User:Spoggerific|Spoggerific]] 17:31, 17 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Once my exported wealth topped 10k I got the Baroness the next migrant season. I was down at 8k exported for about 3 years and had at least that many migrant waves without a baron during the same time. 17th of Slate in the year 308, population 139 (not counting the new tax collector thats just on the edge of the map), 1,912,970 created wealth, 235,635 imported, 11,558 exported. I've also traded with a group of Elves but they hadn't left the map by the time the migrants arrived and it only put my exported wealth to 11,958. [[User:Lando242|Lando242]] 11:38, 3 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== share rooms? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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does the baron and his consort share a room? or do I need to make an extra pair of tombs/dining rooms/bedrooms? --[[User:Destor|Destor]] 17:14, 10 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yup, consorts demand all their own rooms, and neither will be happy if you try to cram them together. The only room that doesn't need to be doubled up is the office/throne room, since the Consort doesn't conduct diplomacy. --[[User:Navian|Navian]] 21:41, 10 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Incorrect Baron Prerequisites? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I just got a Baron, Tax Collector, and Hammerer and have never done a single metal crafting job. I did, however, Cage Trap a Titan in the previous month though. The quote from Toady One at the bottom of the Baron page would appear to be in error in this case. -- [[User:unseenmage|unseenmage]] 14 January 2009&lt;br /&gt;
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:I think you are misunderstanding the quote.  There are a variety of categories, and you must have done the required number of jobs for 4 of those categories.  Nothing requires you to have specifically done metal crafting jobs (which would only count towards 'metal related' if you did do some). --[[User:Squirrelloid|Squirrelloid]] 10:33, 14 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Merging ==&lt;br /&gt;
I would like to suggest the merging of Baron, Count and Duke. Manager and his upgrades only use one page. Each is only a minor upgrade from another and has no vastly different requirements. It would make it easier to view them as they are all connected. Anyone agree/disagree?--[[User:Cultiststeve|cultiststeve]] 06:38, 14 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Sounds good to me--[[User:Solarshado|Solarshado]] 10:48, 14 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Jobs ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I did four of the required job sets, but the last one I finished wasn't completed until shortly after the caravan left, will I still get my baron, provided I meet the other requirements?  Also, could the baron come in a wave after the caravan but before spring, or does he always wait until the new year?  --[[User:Timmeh|Timmeh]] 20:46, 7 April 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== List Formatting ==&lt;br /&gt;
I believe the list of requirements would be clearer/easier to read as a bulleted list. --[[User:Rwindmtg|Rwindmtg]] 22:45, 7 May 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>40d Talk:Bedroom design</title>
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		<updated>2008-11-10T11:02:16Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Rwindmtg: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Isn't 200 the absolute maximum number of dwarves one can have at any time?&lt;br /&gt;
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If so, the High density single floor housing plan of 77x77 is... rather useless, isn't it?&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:MagicGuigz|MagicGuigz]] 16:51, 29 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The max number of dwarves can be changed in the init files. So no. --[[User:GreyMario|GreyMaria]] 16:55, 29 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Even if you had only 200 dwarves, linking 2, 3, or even 4 rooms together to make noble housing, offices, and the like is quite useful. --[[User:ThunderClaw|ThunderClaw]] 10:14, 30 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I've always found it more space efficient to throw all my nobles into about a 10x10 room filled with 20x value gem encrusted furniture (granted, I *did* have a legendary gem setter making this easier the last time I did it) and just plop down all their necessities. I currently have a countess/count consort, hammerer, tax collecter, and duchess/duke consort all in one room with all their buildings set as royal. They also have a legendary mechanism hooked up to some gem encrusted spikes. Heh. Heh heh heh. [[User:Milskidasith|Milskidasith]] 04:19, 10 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I have heard that fractal based designs (like the High density single floor housing) can cause the game to slow down is this true? --[[User:Rwindmtg|Rwindmtg]] 06:02, 10 November 2008 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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