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40d:Pressure plate

2007-12-09T16:47:53Z

Runspotrun: /* Closing a floodgate when submerged */

Pressure plates work somewhat like [[lever]]s, but instead of being actively toggled, they're activated by the [[weight]] of something on them.

Pressure plates are not configured during use, but upon placement. While placing a pressure plate, you can configure it to trigger when the following things are on it:

* [[Water]]/[[Magma]] - choose minimum and maximum levels
* Creatures - choose minimum and maximum size; creatures of the size selected will be listed as example. You can pick whether your own citizens will trigger the plate or not.

Pressure plates default to toggleable, where they send an On signal when the determined weight is upon them and send an Off signal when it's released. Pressing {{k|o}} will change them to one-use mode, where upon being activated, they do their work and cease to operate altogether.

Pressure plates can be linked to all the same objects levers can. The effects are listed in the [[Lever]] page.

A toggleable [[trap]] may prove useless when there is a large amount of invaders walking back and forth over it, as there will not be enough time for it to activate before it is switched again. Berserk dwarves will set off pressure plates.

It is possible to hook a toggleable pressure plate up to a device which makes its effect permanent until a lever is flipped. One way to do that is to build a water-sensing pressure plate in a 1x1 room, link that to your [[trap]] (a drawbridge, for example), build a hatch above it, link the hatch to the original pressure plate outside, and then put water on the hatch. When an enemy steps on the pressure plate, the hatch opens, the water falls onto the other pressure plate, and it raises the drawbridge. (To make it resettable, use pumps controlled by a lever or by dwarf-power to move the water back to where it started.)

:Shortcut {{k|b}}-{{k|T}}-{{k|p}}
:Components used: [[Mechanism]]

==Common procedures==
===Closing a floodgate when submerged===

For this example, say we want to close a floodgate when a reservoir reaches a depth of 5.

* Build the pressure plate, set to activate under water ({{key|w}}) from 0 ({{key|a}}, {{key|s}}) to 4 ({{Key|z}}, {{key|x}}). Set it to reset ({{key|o}}).
* Place the floodgate
* Connect a lever to the floodgate, and open it.
* Optionally remove the lever.
* Connect the pressure plate to the floodgate.
* Allow the pressure plate to be submerged.

The floodgate should close a few seconds after the water reaches a depth of 5 or more, and open again when the depth falls to 4 or less.

It's worth noting that the reaction time of the pressure plate-floodgate system is quite large - the reservoir may overflow before the floodgate shuts. In order to prevent this (for example, when building a well filled from a river or brook), build a large run-off pool. This allows the gate enough time to close, and will buffer any overflow. In my head, this made sense.

{{Buildings}}

[[Category:Buildings]]

40d Talk:Memory hacking

2007-12-09T00:25:04Z

Runspotrun: /* Questions */

== New Release Updates ==
I'm just updating the main page as I figure new things out. Someone else will probably have to redo the formatting, since I don't really know the wiki formatting. --[[User:Zhentar|Zhentar]] 23:30, 29 October 2007 (EDT)

== Creature Structure ==
I have a feeling that offset 0x00 is really a "next" pointer, forming a linked list. The reason being is that I was able to take the 4 byte value and go to that address, and it would be another creature. It progressed for a handful of creatures. Seems logical to assume it does it for all creatures. --[[User:AzureLightning|AzureLightning]] 00:24, 3 November 2007 (EDT)
: I would assume this is true as well, since earlier versions did not have vtables for creatures, only items did. --[[User:Rick|Rick]] 18:07, 4 November 2007 (EST)

== Memory Locations ==

Does anyone know the memory location for the current unit focus? --[[User:AzureLightning|AzureLightning]] 14:05, 3 November 2007 (EDT)
:My automated tool says it's at current_unit_focus_loc == 00C36540 in .33c, verified by two search patterns, but not manually verified. You probably should have asked this in the .33c subpage.<br/>—[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 16:49, 30 November 2007 (EST)

==Questions==

# Has anyone attempted to decode the memory for the "Choose Fortress Location" screen? Being able to generate a list of all local areas with magma vents would be useful. [[User:Palin88|Palin88]] 20:09, 29 November 2007 (EST)
:: This is a great idea. I suggest going one step further : Give the user a list of options (say : magma, flux, thick forest, chasm, underground river, pit, etc), and logically AND all parts of the map that have those features. That would save people hours of looking for their perfect start location. [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 19:25, 8 December 2007 (EST)
# It could be important to some people, but the formats are only correct assuming that the dwarf fortress binary is built using release config. Under debug config, std::string structure gains some more fat and the existing offset will be wrong. Not a prob now, but I think it is good to know. [[User:Sphr|Sphr]]

== Version Identity ==

Thought that the wiki should include some info on how to identify known versions. For lack of a better choice atm, I'm using the version text block that is displayed on main menu.
The version string itself is the string to be expected at the offset.<br/>

("v0.27.169.33a", 0x01BA29B0)
("v0.27.169.33b", 0x01B99FF0)
("v0.27.169.33c", 0x01BA29B0)
("v0.27.169.33d", 0x01B78670)

<br/>[[User:Sphr|Sphr]] 2007 Dec 9

:Have you verified that these offsets are <u>always</u> valid? I ask because they are past the end of the static memory area, up in heap space. I can easily see the allocator placing the memory block at different offsets on different computers, or even between different runs on the same computer. I agree that we need a version ID, but at first glance, this doesn't look like a good way to me.<br/>—[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 17:53, 8 December 2007 (EST)
:: I personally use the "Dwarf Fortress" string, with the address shifts I doubt there will be an issue with that. --[[User:Rick|Rick]] 18:33, 8 December 2007 (EST)

40d Talk:Technical tricks

2007-12-08T21:14:45Z

Runspotrun: Artifacts == moods?

== Economy toggle ==
Can the dwarven economy be started in the present version? There are strings in the binary that make me think so, but I haven't been able to activate it. [[User:Geekwad|Geekwad]] 20:19, 6 November 2007 (EST)
:No, I don't believe so. I've read that Toady made a few errors with the economy system, and has it disabled in the current version until he gets it fixed. [[User:Hesitris|Hesitris]] 8:55, 15 November 2007
:As of the .33b release, the economy can start. Note that the conditions are currently unknown; minting coins is no longer the trigger, or is only one of the triggers.<br/>—[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 00:48, 23 November 2007 (EST)

== Staying Inside? ==

When I was hiding my fledgling fortress from a small ogre warband on the surface, I hunkered down behind my fortifications, set my orders to "dwarves stay inside", and carried on with my development. My FPS was almost entirely at my cap, 100fps. When I turned it off, it almost immediately dropped to 60-70 fps. Has anybody else had this happen to them, and should it be posted on this page?

:Sounds like "Dwarves Stay Inside" was complicating pathing. I think that's a lot more common in this version, the Z-axis complicates pathing greatly over the 2d version and the addition of traffic zones does the same thing. [[User:Kefkakrazy|Kefkakrazy]] 08:57, 15 November 2007 (EST)

::Don't you mean that it was uncomplicated the pathing? To me it reads as though he gets 100fps with dwarves stay inside set. This makes sense from a programming point of view and assuming that when routes are calculated the fact outside is allowed significantly increases the breathed of the search space. However either my understanding of exactly how much path finding is done is wrong or there is a flaw in Toady's code because pathing in this game adds way too much load on the system. --[[User:Shades|Shades]] 10:59, 15 November 2007 (EST)

:::There are numerous bugs associated with the dwarves stay inside command, Toady mentioned several fixes coming on that issue. It seems they don't drop any outside goals when ordered inside, so they go just inside, stand right at the exit, and do nothing as they try to pathfind a way outside, sounds FPS expensive. [[User:Vanan|Vanan]] 12:06, 15 November 2007 (EST)

== Artifacts == moods? ==

Might be worth mentioning in the article whether ARTIFACTS:NO will definitely also stop moods, or whether moods will still occur, but without resulting in artifacts. [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 16:14, 8 December 2007 (EST)

40d:Tower-cap

2007-12-08T21:01:43Z

Runspotrun: /* Tree Farms */ Changed <code> to <blockquote> which looks a little neater.

'''Tower caps''' are a type of [[tree]] which only grow underground (subterranean). Once fully grown (which takes 3 years?{{verify}}) they can be designated for wood cutting like other trees, and produce Tower Cap logs.

== Tree Farms ==

It is possible for tower caps to spontaneously grow in muddied subterranean areas <b>only if</b> you have discovered an underground [[river]] or underground pond. Unfortunately this is currently extremely difficult to do.

On the subject of spawning Tower Caps, Toady said:
<blockquote>Right now, you can't plant towercaps or bring spawn along, so you need to find a cave river or cave pool, in which case they will start growing underground if it's all working. It's trickier to find such things, so it's mostly impossible to do. Later, you should be able to plant them. There are no arbitrary vegetation caps now.</blockquote>

The "arbitrary vegetation caps" comment is referring to the old limit of 200 trees growing by the [[cave river]] in the mud.

{{Wood FAQ}}

40d:Siege

2007-12-07T04:36:25Z

Runspotrun: Agree with Mr Fire below; it should be 0.32a - the time of first failure. Was there even a .32d?

A siege is a special time in Fortress mode when an army attempts to attack and kill all of your dwarves. It is at this time you should activate your military, raise the draw bridges and pray you've enough food stocks to last the winter.

During a siege, the option on the main menu 'Abandon Fortress' changes to 'Succumb to the Invasion'.

<blockquote>
Note: As of v0.27.169.32a, sieges are not functioning properly. The siege groups are content to sit at the edge of the map and wait there until some hapless dwarf wanders too close. After wiping the floor with the dwarf, they return to their spot on the edge of the map.
</blockquote>

== Siegers ==

=== Goblins ===

[[Goblins]] will attack whenever they feel like it, after your fortress reaches a certain point. Possibly triggered by fortress wealth now rather than nobles. Sometimes they will even attack when a caravan arrives.

They arrive in squads of about 15 goblins each, frequently led by individual goblin weapon masters (or even evil human mercenaries) and sometimes mounted on beak dogs, and occasionally accompanied by up to 3 squads of 5-8 trolls. They frequently are split into separate squads placed on different map edges. The first siege you see with a given fort might consist of as little as a single unmounted squad with no trolls, but the goblin forces will escalate in size as the game progresses. Later on you may be seeing 100 or more goblins show up in a single siege, all mounted, with 10 to 20 trolls.

[[Troll]]s are the goblin "siege engines". They are faster than beak dogs, and will make for buildings and start demolishing. Locked doors will keep the goblins out, but can be demolished by trolls.

If you deflect enough sieges, the ruler of the goblin nation may lead a squad. He's equipped with extra-good quality equipment.

=== Humans ===

Unknown if humans still siege this version, someone confirm.

=== Elves ===

Unknown if elves still siege this version, someone confirm.

=== Kobolds ===

[[Kobolds]] seem to arrive in small archer squads, and will pick off solitary [[hunter]]s, [[herbalist]]s, and [[woodcutter]]s foolish enough to work alone. They appear to function similarly to the elven sieges in the previous version. When they expend all their ammunition, they will retreat off the edge of the map. It's unknown what exactly causes [[kobolds]] to attack, although killing a [[kobold]] master [[thief]] may cause an attack.

== Tips ==
{{old|0.23.130.23a}}
===Active Defense===
*Put your entire [[military]] on duty. With luck, most of them are not sleeping, eating, or drinking. If a [[squad]] leader is is doing anything of that sort, replace him with a more alert squad member (the squad always clusters about the leader. If the leader's eating, the squad will guard the table). Place melee units at major choke points, so they can meet the enemy head on, but try to keep them out of direct fire from enemy missile users. Place your own marksdwarves where they can rain death down on the enemies. (This is why you build [[fortifications]].)

*[[War dog]]s are valuable, but shouldn't be the first line of defense, because the enemy bowmen will quickly take care of them. Assign them to your military dwarves, or cage them before the siege, and [[Release the Hounds!|release]] them via lever/pressure plate as the enemy is rounding a blind corner. They're also useful for clearing the field once the siege ends.

*[[Siege weapon]]s, catapults and ballistae, can be effective during a siege, but can also be entirely useless. They don't have a wide field of fire, so you'll need to design your fortress ahead of time to funnel your attackers into the weapons' field of fire and then delay them with winding passages while in range. To use them effectively, you really need trained Siege Operators for the task, since siege weapons take up to three real-time minutes for inexperienced operators to load, and the weapons cannot be fired at a precise time; they will fire whenever the operator shows up. Fire early and often: siege operators are civilians, and will run away once the oncoming hordes get too close.

===Passive Defense===
*If you have no trust in your military's power, keep all the dwarves inside and pull the siegers into corridors with [[traps]]. Stone-fall traps are cheap and easy, but are one-shot traps with a long reload time; weapon traps require weapons, but reload themselves after a few seconds, until they eventually get stuck. A 10-square-long entry hall filled with weapons traps will break most [[goblin]] sieges without any help. (How boring!)

*A moat may provide a decent defense when combined with a drawbridge to either keep the goblins from entering, or to drop them right into the water. Substitute magma for some far more lethal results. Even not filled 1-tile wide channel is a fast and effective way to stop siegers or to guide them into areas you want.

=== Civilians ===

* Your normal dwarves will still attempt to do their jobs during a siege. The [[Options]]->Dwarves Stay Inside option will prevent them from going outside, but only after walking to the entrance. Since many of your major defenses will be inside the fortress, this is only somewhat useful. Dwarves will run from invaders, but only ''after'' getting within crossbow-range, so their self-preservation skills are lackluster when the enemy has ranged weapons. Therefore, your best bet is to draft the dwarves in question (or simply all civilians) into one citizen-squad and station them somewhere out of harm's way. However, if any of your citizens are set to carry weapons or armor, they may decide to go collect equipment from slain [[goblins]]/dwarves during the siege, which means they'll run out into the fray. Keep an eye on this, and turn off their [[weapons]]/[[armor]] accordingly.

* Providing indoor pastimes (like [[sculpture garden]], [[zoo]], [[meeting hall]], or a meeting area zone) will make dwarves spend their break time in the fortress rather than outside. This will typically stop all dwarves from hanging around outside. Hunters, woodcutters, haulers and other dwarves who have business outside will still be at risk.

[[Category:World]]
[[Category:Military]]
[[Category:Fortress Defense]]

40d:Clutter

2007-12-04T18:59:53Z

Runspotrun: /* Furnaces and no clutter */ Eh? My wood furnace was cluttered as a... thing.

{{old|0.23.130.23a}}

[[Workshops]] will get '''cluttered''' when they become full of goods that are not [[hauling|haul]]ed away to [[stockpiles]]. A workshop that is cluttered will display <code>'''(CLT)'''</code> when viewed via the {{key|q}} or {{key|t}} menus.

Dwarves working in cluttered workshops will work more slowly: even the lowest level of clutter <font style="color: #808080; background-color: #000; padding: 0.15em"><tt>'''(CLT)'''</tt></font> doubles the time a workshop task takes. Each successive level of clutter increases the multiplier by one, so tasks performed in a completely cluttered workshop will take ten times as long.

== Clutter levels ==

With larger items (e.g. [[beds]], [[stone]]s, [[table]]s), clutter starts appearing when 15 of those are inside a shop. Every 3 small items counts as one large item, so a craft-making workshop isn't cluttered until there are 45 crafts littering the floors, tables, and possibly walls and ceilings. [[Siege engine]] components and ammo are especially large; the [[siege workshop]] can get cluttered after producing just 3 ballista arrows.

{| style="margin: 0 auto; text-align: center; border-spacing: 4px"
|+ style="margin: 0 auto" | '''Levels of Clutter'''
|-
! style="color: #808080; background: #000" | <tt>(CLT)</tt>
| 15 Large Items
| : 2x slower
|-
! style="color: #c0c0c0; background: #000" | <tt>(CLT)</tt>
| 20 Large Items
| : 3x slower
|-
! style="color: #fff; background: #000" | <tt>(CLT)</tt>
| 25 Large Items
| : 4x slower
|-
! style="color: #ff0; background: #000" | <tt>(CLT)</tt>
| 30 Large Items
| : 5x slower
|-
! style="color: #800000; background: #000" | <tt>(CLT)</tt>
| 35 Large Items
| : 6x slower
|-
! style="color: #f00; background: #000" | <tt>(CLT)</tt>
| 40 Large Items
| : 7x slower
|-
! style="color: #f0f; background: #000" | <tt>(CLT)</tt>
| 45 Large Items
| : 8x slower
|-
! style="color: #f0f; background: #000" | <tt>*CLT*</tt>
| 50 Large Items
| : 9x slower
|-
! style="color: #f0f; background: #000" | <tt>☼CLT☼</tt>
| 55 Large Items
| : 10x slower
|}

To remedy clutter, be sure to have enough stockpile space of the appropriate kind (using [[bin]]s will increase stockpile efficiency), and employ enough dwarves with the appropriate [[hauling]] jobs (food/furniture/item/refuse/etc.) to get rid of the junk. In many cases it may be faster to build a new workshop, optionally destroying the old one (from the {{k|q}} or {{k|t}} menu).

Certain workshops are more prone to clutter than others. A highly-skilled dwarf with plenty of materials nearby can clutter a workshop rapidly, even if you have many haulers employed. The [[Butcher's shop|butcher's workshop]] can get cluttered even after butchering a single animal: butchering a horse produces 9 meat, 9 chunks, 9 bones, 5 fat, one skull, and one skin.

Similarly, a [[kitchen]] producing lavish meals using [[alcohol]], [[dwarven syrup]], or [[quarry bush]] leaves can produce a stack of 20 to 100+ prepared meals, which are large items. The kitchen will be cluttered even before the meals are produced: four barrels with 15 units of alcohol each is already 60 large items, causing meal production to take a very long time.

== Furnaces and no clutter ==

As of 0.27.169.33c Furnaces can never get any level of clutter, it is unknown why{{verify}}.

{{Workshops}}
[[Category:Workshops]]

Butchering

2007-12-04T16:37:56Z

Runspotrun:

Butchering is performed automatically at a [[butcher's shop]] only if there is an edible carcass created somewhere on the map, whether by hunting or by specifying an animal to be butchered using [z] -> [enter] on the "Animals" tab, and then hitting [b] to mark an animal for slaughter. Their status will say "Ready for slaughter." Animals taken as pets by someone cannot be slaughtered, which poses a problem for reducing the number of animals, or trying to get food. You can circumvent this by killing the animal, by having it thrown into a deep pit or off a high cliff, using [[zones]] -> [[pit/pond]]. But this is not recommended unless you really need food, because losing a pet lowers happiness two whole units (Meaning going from exstatic to content, or happy to unhappy, or from content to miserable.)

40d Talk:Soldier

2007-12-04T00:31:23Z

Runspotrun: /* No more sparring? */

I currently have a champion who will not obey orders. She has picked a station herself and remains there no matter what I do. Is this a champion behavior in 2.7?--[[User:Mlcy]]
:Champions always behaved that way as far as I know. --[[User:Eagle of Fire|Eagle of Fire]] 14:40, 28 November 2007 (EST)

== No more sparring? ==

For some reason, my military has stopped sparring. I have 4 Wrestler Champions, 2 Wrestler Elites, 1 Wrestler, and they're all 'Soldier'ing. I now want to bring them all up to legendary Swordsdwarves too, but they just. Won't. Train. They have swords and a barracks, and they're not on duty. Still no training. Help? [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 07:09, 3 December 2007 (EST)
:Make sure there is a barrack designated for them to train. You may have unconstructed one of the furniture from which you've designated the room, so you'd need to do it again. Also, dwarves need to train in pair, and they don't always train. They often take breaks. This mean that the biggest the amount of trainees you have, the greatest the chance two of them will head at the same time to the barracks to train. Also, they will never train unless you go in the military screen, enter each individual squad setting with {{K|v}} and then hit {{K|t}} to make them "stand down". Don't forget to do exactly the same again to place them "on duty" if you ever want to send them fighting again. --[[User:Eagle of Fire|Eagle of Fire]] 14:26, 3 December 2007 (EST)
:: Viable barracks, check. Several pairs, check. Stood down, check. The weird thing is that they were sparring like nutters in order to get up to Champion, and then they all just lost interest and started Soldiering. I note above that Champions have a mind of their own - maybe they can't be trained to legendary in an additional weapon, or stop sparring altogether at legendary? Also, there's an unresolved post in the bug forum that suggests that dwarves only spar for 3 years. Odd. I'm not hugely bothered because there's nothing for the army to kill; no sieges and no megabeasts. Bit boring, really. [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 19:31, 3 December 2007 (EST)

40d:Smelter

2007-12-03T12:49:53Z

Runspotrun:

{{Furnace|name=Smelter|key=s|job=[[Furnace operator]]
|construction=
1 of
* [[Stone]]
* [[Wood]]
* [[Block]]
|construction_job=
* [[Architecture]]
|use=
* Metal [[Ore]]
* [[Coke]] or [[Charcoal]]
* Meltable metal item
|production=
* Metal [[Bar]]s
}}
A '''smelter''' is a type of [[furnace]] used to process [[ore]] into more useful [[bar]]s, in a process called [[smelting]]. Smelting requires fuel ([[charcoal]] or [[coke]]). A smelter requires one rock or block to build.
The Smelter is also the place where dwarves take items to be melted back into bars. Smelting a masterpiece item results in a the creator of that item throwing a tantrum.

There is also a [[Magma smelter|magma version]] of this building, which is built over [[magma]]. It requires one magma-proof rock or block to build. It does not require charcoal or coke as fuel, although the process of making pig iron or steel will still need one unit of charcoal or coke per reaction, as a reagent.

{{Workshops}}
[[Category:Buildings]]

40d Talk:Soldier

2007-12-03T12:09:40Z

Runspotrun: No more sparring?

40d Talk:Experience

2007-12-01T19:17:26Z

Runspotrun:

Until experience points have been re-verified, this page should be marked as having been copied from the old Wiki. I don't know how to do that and am too tired to research it right now.

I will add that I intend to re-verify experience fairly soon. —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 02:52, 14 November 2007 (EST)
:Done [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 09:42, 14 November 2007 (EST)

:Since I had a pile of Adamantine around, I decided to do the Extraction experiment. It took a dwarf who had never extracted adamantine before 17 iterations to reach novice. That makes it more than 29 and at most 32 xp per action. I expect that it's a 30xp task, like so many others. [[User:Doctorlucky|Doctorlucky]] 05:07, 14 November 2007 (EST)

:I've now taken the dwarf to named level (Strand Extractor) with exactly 37 tasks, so it's 30xp. [[User:Doctorlucky|Doctorlucky]] 18:14, 14 November 2007 (EST)

:: Heh. On the Real Wiki, it's right about now that you'd be shot down for doing primary research! [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 14:17, 1 December 2007 (EST)

40d:Strange mood

2007-12-01T16:49:09Z

Runspotrun: /* Workshops */ English? I speaks it... sorta.

{{old|v0.23.130.23a}}

'''Help! A crazy dwarf is in my metal shop and I need to make giant axe blades to fend off the [[Undead|skeletal]] [[carp]]s!'''

Periodically, individual dwarves in your fortress will be struck with an idea for a [[legendary artifact]] and enter a '''strange mood'''. Dwarves which enter a strange mood will stop whatever they are doing and pursue the construction of this artifact single-mindedly. They will not stop to eat, drink, sleep, or even run away from dangerous creatures. If they do not manage to begin construction of the artifact within three months or so, they will go [[Strange Mood#Failure|insane]] and die soon afterward.

However, if a dwarf does manage to create an artifact, he or she will gain one [[legendary]] [[skill]] (with one exception: "possessed" dwarves will create an artifact but gain no skill from it).

== Strange-mood behavior ==

When a dwarf is struck by a strange mood, the game will automatically center the map on the moody dwarf, pause, and alert you to his or her particular mood. While in a mood, a dwarf will display a blinking exclamation point (see [[status icons]]).

=== Workshops ===

After entering a mood, a dwarf will stop whatever he or she is doing, head to a [[workshop]], and "claim" it, kicking out any other dwarf who may be using it. The workshop a dwarf takes over will usually depend upon the dwarf's highest "trade" [[skill]]: a Bone Carver, for instance, will generally take over a [[craftsdwarf's workshop]]; a Jeweler will take over a [[jeweler's workshop]]; a Mechanic will take over a [[mechanic's workshop]]; and a Metalsmith will take over a [[forge]].

Most farming-, fishing-, trapping-, and combat-related skills (grower, thresher, brewer, fish cleaner, animal trainer, axedwarf, etc.) do not count as "trade" skills (although Tanners can enter strange moods, and will take over a [[tanner's shop]]).

Active [[soldiers]] can enter a strange mood if they have any trade skills from before they were conscripted. A soldier will be removed from his or her [[squad]] during the course of a mood and returned to it upon successful completion of an artifact. If a soldier has gained a legendary skill, you may wish to make use of it by removing that dwarf from the military.

If the right workshop is not available, a moody dwarf will stand idle instead (in their bedroom, outside the fort, in a [[sculpture garden]] or [[meeting hall]], etc.) waiting for you to construct the right workshop. You can usually tell which workshop a moody dwarf wants by {{key|v}}iewing their skills; their highest trade skill will dictate which workshop you should build for them. Be warned, however, that a moody dwarf will not help you construct a workshop. If you do not have another dwarf with the skills to construct it, you must enable the relevant skill on another dwarf.

Moody Glassmakers will require a [[glass furnace]] instead of a workshop, but Furnace Operators will require a [[forge]]. If your miners have reached the [[magma flow]], any dwarf requiring a forge will insist on a [[magma forge]], and will ignore any existing charcoal-powered forges.{{verify}} Glassmakers will use either a charcoal- or a magma-fuelled glass furnace.{{verify}}

Moody dwarves will occasionally seize a random workshop and proceed to create their artifact there. Following completion of the artifact, this workshop will often be converted into the type originally desired by the dwarf.{{verify}}

=== Skills ===

If a dwarf manages to successfully complete an artifact, the dwarf's highest trade skill will be elevated to "legendary". More specifically, 20,000 [[experience]] will be added to that skill. This will also give the dwarf several [[attribute]] boosts. ("Possessed" dwarves, however, gain no experience.)

This fact can be utilized to maximize the possibility of getting dwarf with a legendary skill you want: where possible, make sure each dwarf's highest trade skill is one of the kinds you want. Have all your peasants, growers, soldiers (you will have to temporarily deactivate them from the military), and other dwarves without trade skills do a tiny bit of work in the skill(s) you most want (Armorsmith is possibly the most-desired legendary skill); if a "dabbling" trade skill is the highest they have, that is the skill that will be used.

The type of artifact created will also depend on the dwarf's highest trade skill. Masons will always create some kind of [[stone]] object; Bone Carvers, a [[bone]] or [[shell]] object; Carpenters, a [[wood]] object, etc.

For the purposes of strange moods, [[mining]] and [[engraving]] are considered trade skills: moody miners and engravers will usually take over a craftsdwarf's or mason's workshop, turn out a stone craft or piece of furniture, and gain legendary skill as miners or engravers respectively (not as stone crafters or masons). Furnace operators will turn out a metal craft or piece of furniture and become legendary furnace operators. Weavers will take over a [[clothes maker's shop]] and produce an article of clothing.

Dwarves with no trade skills whatsoever (including [[children]], sometimes) can go into strange moods. Such dwarves generally gain one of the crafting skills (wood crafter, bone carver, etc.).

=== Materials ===

In addition to requiring a specific workshop, dwarves will also demand specific raw [[material]]s in order to complete their artifact. Each artifact will require between one and ten items to complete.{{verify}}

After claiming a workshop, a moody dwarf will set about collecting these materials. If the supplies are not at hand, the dwarf will sit in the workshop until the items become available, or go insane if they do not become available before long.

Jewelers will usually only require one item: a rough [[gem]], which they will fashion into a "perfect" gem. Metalsmiths will usually use [[ore]] (not [[metal bars]]).{{verify}}

Glassmakers will always require at least one piece of raw glass, usually clear. Since they will usually take over your glass furnace, you will either have to build another glass furnace or make sure you have the right types of raw glass ahead of time. The steps involved in glass production are fairly time-consuming: you must first collect sand, which requires an empty [[bag]] and an "Item [[hauling|Haul]]er" who is not busy hauling finished goods, then haul the sand to the furnace and melt it into glass. Clear glass is even more time consuming (the above steps plus: make [[potash]] out of [[wood]], bake it into [[pearlash]] in a [[kiln]], haul it to the furnace). It is therefore recommended you make several pieces of raw glass of each type as early as you can, reserved for use by moody dwarves. Furthermore, any dwarf may require raw glass, not just glassmakers. ''Why is this here? Make a seperate article about glassmaking. --[[User:Mizipzor|Mizipzor]] 06:19, 6 November 2007 (EST)''

The first object grabbed by the dwarf will be the "primary" substance; all other materials will be used to decorate the artifact. If a dwarf grabs onyx and makes a bed, for instance, it will be an "onyx bed". In addition to the primary substance, many other materials will often be used to construct an artifact. An artifact can potentially be composed of bone, cloth, gems, leather, metal, shell, stone, and wood all at once.{{verify}}

==== Demands ====

While a moody dwarf is in a workshop, you can get an idea of what materials he or she wants by pressing {{k|q}} and moving the cursor over the workshop. (If the dwarf is busy fetching objects instead of "waiting" for unavailable materials, you can still see this display by catching the dwarf in the workshop just as he or she is dropping off an object.)

The message will change every few seconds if the dwarf demands several different items. The dwarf will list all the materials he or she demands even if most of them have already been fetched. If a demand lasts longer than about 2 seconds, that means multiple items of that type will be required. Sometimes a dwarf will also mutter an unfamiliar word, such as "Kerging". This word is the name of the artifact he or she intends to create.

Moody dwarves collect their items in a fixed sequence, so if they have already collected at least one item (it will be lying in the workshop, viewable under the {{k|t}} menu), you can see what item in the sequence they will need next to continue.

Things dwarves demand include:

* [[Bones]] - "bones... yes", "pictures of skeletons"
* [[Cloth]] (not thread) - "cloth... thread", "pictures of stacked cloth"
* Cut [[gem]]s - "gems... shining", "gems". ''These must be ordinary cut gems, not "large" gems.''
* [[Leather]] - "leather... skin", "pictures of stacked leather"
* Metal [[ore]] - "ore... particular ore", "picture of an ore mine", "the correct ore"
* Metal [[bar]]s - "shining bars... metal", "shining bars of metal"
* Rough [[gem]]s - "rough... color". ''Sometimes when they request rough gems they are looking for a specific type of raw [[glass]].''
* Raw crystal [[glass]] - "raw... crystal", "rough gems and glass" (I think this is right. I have raw types of both green and clear glass, but not crystal glass)
* Raw clear [[glass]] - "raw... clear", "glass with burning wood"
* [[Shell]] - "a shell"
* [[Stone]] - "stone... rock", "pictures of a quarry", "the right stone"
* Stone [[block]]s - "blocks... bricks", "the proper surface to work on", "square blocks"
* [[Wood]] - "tree... life", "pictures of a forest", "a tree"
* Dwarven bones/[[refuse|remains]] - "things... certain things". ''This demand is only seen during "Macabre" moods.''

Sometimes the required item(s) will be very specific (for instance, rough [[emerald]]s); other times, very general (leather from any type of creature). Sometimes when dwarves are waiting for a specific material, it will be listed in the dwarf's [[thought|thoughts and preferences]]. For instance, a dwarf that "likes platinum" will sometimes use one or more platinum nuggets in the construction of an artifact. This is not always the case, however, and they may want a completely unrelated item.{{verify}}

Once the dwarf has assembled all the materials he or she needs, the game will announce that the dwarf "has begun a mysterious construction!". The artifact should be completed within a day or two.

Dwarves which have created an artifact will hold on to it for a very long time (or the loss of the limb in which it is held{{verify}}) after which one of three events can occur.
* The dwarf can become [[obsessed]] with the item and will keep hold of it until death.{{verify}}
* Become nervous and hide the artifact.{{verify}}
* Become uneasy and drop the artifact wherever he currently stands.{{verify}}

If it is a heavy object (such as a floodgate), it will [[speed|slow]] them substantially unless they have several levels of [[strength]]. This is a bigger problem with a possessed dwarf, as the legendary status resulting from other moods will provide a good [[attributes|attribute]] boost.

=== Failure ===

If you can't provide all the required items within a couple of months, the dwarf will go insane and cancel the artifact. This [[insanity]] can take several forms:

* Become melancholy. The dwarf will either refuse to eat or drink until dead, or drown themselves at some point. They may also hurl themselves into the [[river]], [[chasm]], or [[magma]] immediately.{{verify}}
* Become a babbling wreck. A dwarf experiencing this will drop all the items he or she is wearing, one by one, and eventually starve to death.
* Go on a murderous rampage.

The first two outcomes are harmless (except to the moody dwarf, who will die), but you may want to station a squad nearby or assign a few war dogs to the dwarf on the chance that they will lash out. If you build your workshops inside enclosed rooms (with doors), you can also lock the moody dwarf in the room until he or she starves.

Anything that would cause the dwarf to cancel the strange mood job (like being attacked or having the workshop destroyed) will cause [[insanity]]. Note that the [[insanity]] can happen even when the dwarf is not deadlocked on an item; there have been observed instances where a dwarf goes insane while in the process of carrying a required item back to the commandeered workshop.

== Types of strange moods ==

The first message in the following sections is how the mood is [[announcements|announced]]; the second message appears in the dwarf's profile when he or she is ['''v''']iewed. All dwarves in a strange mood will have "Strange Mood" listed as their active task.

=== Fey ===

* ''Taken by a fey mood!''
* ''Has the aspect of one fey!''

This is the basic strange mood. Fey dwarves will clearly state their demands when the workshop they are in is examined.

=== Secretive ===

* ''Withdraws from society...''
* ''Peculiarly secretive...''

Secretive moods are the same as fey moods, except instead of loudly proclaiming his demands, a secretive dwarf will sketch his or her ideas.

=== Possessed ===

* ''Has been possessed!''
* ''Possessed by unknown forces!''

Possessed dwarves behave the same as fey dwarves, but will not gain any skill once the artifact is complete. Their thoughts are also cryptic, but are harder to understand than dwarves who withdraw from society.

=== Fell ===

* ''Looses a roaring laughter, fell and terrible!''
* ''Has a horrible fell look!''

A dwarf that goes into a fell mood will take over a [[butcher's shop]] or a [[tanner's shop]] instead of one of the craft shops. The dwarf will then ''murder'' the nearest dwarf, drag the corpse into the shop and make some sort of object out of dwarf [[leather]] or [[bone]]. Once the artifact is completed, the fell dwarf will become a legendary Bone Carver or Leatherworker. Strangely, none of the other dwarves seem to mind the murder.

Aside from the potential loss of an important dwarf in the wrong place at the wrong time, there doesn't seem to be any downside to a fell mood. The end result is always an artifact and a legendary craftsdwarf. Since the only ingredient used (a dwarf) is available in abundance, a fell mood will only "fail" if a hermit has a horrible fell look or if the proper workshop does not exist.

=== Macabre ===

* ''Begins to stalk and brood...''
* ''Brooding darkly...''

Like a fell mood, above, but the dwarf will not murder a fellow dwarf. A macabre dwarf may require dwarf bones, skulls, and chunks/remains; if you do not happen to have any, you will have to "make" some, or let the moody dwarf go insane.

Fell and Macabre moods will only happen to dwarves which are [[Thoughts|unhappy]] at the time of entering a mood.

== Multiple Moods ==

Toady stated on [http://www.bay12games.com/cgi-local/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=7&t=000567 this] thread in the forum that two moods at once is a bug. Therefore, it is safe to assume that it is usually impossible to get more than one mood at once. Also, on the buglists: 000317 □ [dwarf mode][moods] two mood dwarves at once

== Unresolved questions ==

* ''Does a larger number of dwarves in a fortress increase the chance of strange moods?''
** A fortress with a very small number of dwarves (1-3) can go many years without seeing any strange moods, so it would seem so.
* ''Can the same dwarf go into a strange mood more than once?''
** Presumably, they cannot.
* ''Can an already legendary dwarf go into a strange mood?''
** A Legendary dwarf that hasn't acquired legendary status via creating an artifact ''can'' go into a strange mood.
* ''How many strange moods can occur in a single fortress?''
** Apparently, an unlimited number. Previously, the moods were thought to cease after the 15th successful artifact, but this has been disproven.
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(For traps used to catch vermin, see [[animal trap]]).

Traps are a reliable and cost-effective method for defending any fortress. Unlike soldiers, they're always on duty, and don't need to be carefully managed. OOn the other hand, they are immobile and can only lie in wait for foes to walk over them. To build a trap, go to the {{k|b}}uild->Traps/Levers menu. You'll generally need one [[mechanism]], and at least one other component depending on the type of trap. They can be built indoors or outdoors, and require a level ground square with no other constructions in them. Traps are not triggered by dwarves (except berserk/insane ones), pets, and enemies capable of sneaking, such as kobold thieves. Such creatures will pass over traps without triggering them.

==Stone-fall Trap==
The simplest trap to construct, a stone-fall trap is essentially a stone suspended up in the air which is dropped on intruders when the trap is triggered. These are a popular defensive measure early on, as the components needed are readily available as soon as you start mining. A single stone trap will kill or severely maim most humanoid enemies although trolls, magmamen and hardier creatures may take two or three to drop. Mythical creatures such as dragons, hydras and titans will take upwards of five or six. After being used they need to be reloaded with another stone, a task which your dwarves will see to automatically. Stone traps can now be built outside.
:Shortcut {{k|s}}
:Components used: [[mechanism]] and an ordinary [[stone]]

==Weapon Trap==
Weapon traps consist of any number of deadly instruments rigged to a mechanism. When an intruder sets off the trap, the weapons spring out and strike the poor sap. You can add up to 10 weapons to a weapon trap, and they will all attack together when set off. This gives the potential for dealing significant amounts of damage at once. There are also special giant weapon parts you can build that are specially designed for use in weapon traps. Unlike stone-fall traps, weapon traps automatically reset after being triggered, ready to splatter the intruder's friends. But there is a (20%?)chance that the trap will become jammed each time it is triggered. A nearby dwarf will automatically clean a jammed trap; this does not require the [[cleaning]] labor. If there are weapons that require ammunition in the trap, they will also have to be reloaded occasionally. Weapon traps using bows or crossbows will not require cleaning but do use ammo.
:Shortcut {{k|w}}
:Components used: [[mechanism]] and whatever [[weapon]]s you want.

==Cage Trap==
Cage traps capture creatures that set them off in [[cage]]s. After a creature is captured it's stored, cage and all, in an appropriate animal stockpile. Then the trap is reloaded with another cage. You can do all sorts of fun things with [[captured creatures]]. Creatures in cages will be fed periodically.
:Shortcut {{k|c}}
:Components used: [[mechanism]] and a [[cage]].

==Upright Spear/Spike==
These traps will be useless on their own, they must be linked up to a pressure plate or lever to become active, the fact that they do piercing damage makes them usefull against more powerfull foes, additionally their friendly fire means they make extremely usefull and effective anti-immigrant traps.

:I did some testing, and as far as I can tell they don't cause any extra falling damage. I could be wrong about this as I only tested with wooden spikes and maybe they didn't add enough extra to be noticeable, but I doubt it.

:they can, however, be linked to a lever. when pulled, the retract - when pulled again they shoot out doing a moderate amount of damage (5 mid-range wooden spikes pierced both lungs of an elephant and gave it a light liver wound in one shot). The best part is, the lever can be set to repeat which makes the spikes go up and down really fast and causes massive damage to anything walking over them.

:stuff does get stuck in them, sort of. corpses will appear as an item inside the spikes 'building' when they are out (the same way mugs and whatnot appear inside workshops when you first make them). retracting the spikes lets the corpse out. I have no idea if a corpse stuck in them stops them from doing damage to other creatures walking over them.

:a warning - spikes do friendly fire, and the 5 moderate wooden spikes mentioned above was enough to instagib some elven traders and one of my dwarves in 1 shot. ---- Taken from a forum post by BurnedToast [http://www.bay12games.com/cgi-local/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=7&t=001777]

:Shortcut {{k|S}} (capitalized)
:Components used: [[spear]]s or [[spike]]s.

==Other Traps==
You can create even more elaborate traps with imaginative use of pits, pressure plates, levers, grates, supports, water, magma, and whatever else you can think of. Watching those goblins try to find a way out of your drowning chamber as it begins to fill is really quite satisfying.

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2007-11-29T17:53:38Z

Runspotrun: /* Unhappy thoughts */ I've seen this message from the Dungeon Master and other nobles.

Dwarf psychology is not all that complex - various events cause dwarves to gain 'thoughts'. Thoughts have a [[happiness]]/unhappiness value. The value of all the thoughts a particular dwarf has is simply summed to determine how happy or unhappy they are. If dwarves are particularly unhappy, they may throw [[tantrum]]s, and may enter fell or macabre [[strange mood]]s.

To view a dwarf's thoughts, press {{key|v}} on the dwarf. Then press {{key|p}}(preferences) -> {{key|z}} -> {{key|enter}}.<br/>
Now you will see descriptions on how the dwarf feels ''(Ecstatic, happy, content, unhappy, miserable)'', and what recent events made an impact on the dwarf. There are also some personal traits listed on the bottom.

== Happy thoughts ==
A catalog of happy thoughts:<br />
* '''"Slept in a good quality [[bedroom]] recently"''' <br />
* '''"Dined in a good quality [[dining room]] lately"''' <br />
* '''"Had a pretty decent/fine/good/wonderful/truly decadent drink/meal lately"''' <br />
* '''"Is quite pleased with making an [[artifact]]"'''<br />
* '''"Admired a fine craft/furniture/building lately"''' <br />
* '''"Admired a own fine craft/furniture/building lately"''' <br />
* '''"Made a friend recently"''' <br />
* '''"Talked with a friend lately"''' <br />
* '''"Received water recently"'''<br/>
* '''"Gave somebody water lately"'''<br/>
* '''"Made a satisfying acquisition lately."'''<br />
* '''"Has been satisfied at work lately"'''<br/>
* '''"Had a satisfying sparring session lately"'''<br/>
* '''"Pleased to have a mandate deadline met lately"'''<br/>
* '''"Conducted a meeting in a great setting recently"'''<br/>
* '''"Was honored to join the Fortress Guard"'''<br/>
* '''"Took joy in slaughter lately"''' - Hammerer<br/>
* '''"Beat somebody with a hammer recently"''' - Hammerer<br/>

==Unhappy thoughts ==
A catalog of unhappy thoughts:<br />
* '''"Slept without a [[bed]] / Slept in the mud"'''<br />
* '''"Slept without a decent room lately"'''<br />
* '''"Slept uneasily due to [[noise]] recently"'''<br />
* '''"Complained of the lack of [[chair]]s / [[table]]s"'''<br />
* '''"Was upset to be wearing old/tattered clothing lately"'''<br/>
* '''"Complained about the [[military|draft]]"'''<br />
* '''"Complained of thirst lately"'''<br />
* '''"Has been dehydrated"'''<br/>
* '''"Has been starving lately"'''<br/>
* '''"Lost a good friend/husband/wife/child"'''<br />
* '''"Was knocked out during a cave-in lately"'''<br/>
* '''"Sustained minor injuries lately"'''<br/>
* '''"Was annoyed by [[vermin]]"'''<br />
* '''"Has been accosted by terrible vermin"'''<br/>
* '''"Was disgusted by [[miasma]]"'''<br />
* '''"Has been annoyed by flies"'''<br/>
* '''"Was [[Cave adaptation|nauseated]] by the sun lately"'''<br/>
* '''"Has witnessed death"''' - Philosopher<br/>
* '''"Is depressed about being [[Justice|confined]]"'''<br/>
* '''"Was unhappy with the lack of work last season"''' - Jeweler <br />
* '''"Was unable to make suggestions about [[Outpost manager|work allocations]] lately"''' - Manager<br/>
* '''"Was unable to find someone to complain to about job scarcity lately"'''<br/>
* '''"Was upset to have disappointed a noble recently"''' - Tax Collector <br />
* '''"Was misinformed about a room for tax collection recently"''' - Tax Collector <br />
* '''"Was worried not to have adequate protection lately"''' - Tax Collector <br />
* '''"Was upset by having a mandate ignored lately"'''<br/>
* '''"Conducted a meeting in an awful setting recently"''' - Mayor <br />
* '''"Was angered that nobody could be punished for a recent failure"''' - Count<br/>
* '''"Was upset by a lesser's pretentious sleeping arrangements lately"'''
* '''"Was put off by a lesser's pretentious dining arrangements lately"'''- Countess<br/>

User talk:Rick

2007-11-28T19:38:16Z

Runspotrun: /* heal.exe bug? */

== Requests ==
Hey there. Thanks for writing reveal.exe. It's made my dwarves' lives so much easier!

Do you take requests?

And is this the right place to ask? [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 20:32, 10 November 2007 (EST)

: Yes, and yes. --[[User:Rick|Rick]] 20:49, 10 November 2007 (EST)

::Excellent! Now, I don't know how many people would use it, but I'd love to see a utility that would allow me to choose the temperature/forest/shrub/surroundings/neighbours when starting out. I like to stick to the same sort of areas, but it can be a pain finding them on the map - if they exist at all. Problem is, I think most people take what they're given, region-wise... so I don't think it'd have much of an audience. What do you think? [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 20:55, 10 November 2007 (EST)

:: Er, I haven't just described startpoints.exe, have I? [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 21:01, 10 November 2007 (EST)

::Well, if you're not averse to requests... A utility to activate the subterranean flag on indoor areas would be awesome for those of us who'd like to build surface castles in cold/freezing terrain without our dwarves dying of frostbite. -[[User:EarthquakeDamage|EarthquakeDamage]] 22:45, 10 November 2007 (EST)

::I'd like a rock/gem/ore tool. Would be really neat. Especially the ore/gem one. Also, maybe water/magma creation tools if possible?--[[User:Spelguru|Spelguru]] 01:29, 11 November 2007 (EST)

::Something similar to the old skills.exe would be great! --[[User:Vanan|Vanan]] 11:44, 19 November 2007 (EST)

== Wild Praise ==
Thank you so much for your incredible work! Your applications add so much fun to the game! --[[User:Vanan|Vanan]] 13:56, 17 November 2007 (EST)

== In reply to ==
Your statement to me on my page, "Don't subject your opinion unto others. (Though I think you were just trying to be funny...) --Rick 03:54, 31 October 2007 (EDT)"

Of course I was. But some people have no real sense of humor.

Also, some people believe they can do things they tell others NOT to do. Your statement is a perfect example of this. You tell me not to subject others to MY opinion, but in doing so you are subjecting me to YOUR opinion. Oh yes, you are one of the VIPs in the DF community, because you wrote a couple utilities. So I suppose I should be humble in your presence, and bow to someone so great. I would do that, but when I bow, I do it facing AWAY from that person, and I drop my trousers at the same time. Still want me to bow to your greatness?

I read other contributions here that voice their opinions the same as I did. I wonder if you said the same thing to all of them as well? Tho since I was able to read the pages they wrote, you clearly did not delete their words as you did mine. And while other entries I made were either deleted or edited, as I expected them to be, since I am not a great wiki writer, you were the only one to send me a somewhat nasty note.

Think whatever you like of me, but at least I was contributing, and trying to give a few smiles along the way. Seems to me tho, that DF is fun, and it's wiki should be too. And, from other pages I read, others feel the same way I do. Maybe you should take a look around at some of their pages, and lighten up yourself a bit? Maybe trade with the elves for a tame blue jay, and drop it down your shorts. If that doesnt get a giggle out of you, maybe you should go join the undead at one of their ruins?

: Wow, way to blow up that up, I was just jesting. I think I'll leave your words here, [[User:Darknight|Darknight]]. --[[User:Rick|Rick]] 19:25, 17 November 2007 (EST)

: Oh, and for the record, I did not remove your message, someone else did that. Check the page history. --[[User:Rick|Rick]] 19:29, 17 November 2007 (EST)

== heal.exe bug? ==

Hmm... I've found that heal -hurt doesn't work on fire men, at least in 33b. It sets all their body parts to red, but the fire man just keeps wandering around and scaring my poor witless dwarves. I haven't found a living fire man yet in 33c so I can't check. [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 06:59, 28 November 2007 (EST)

: Are firemen immune to pain? Hurt just nukes bodyparts, not kills creatures, most creatures who feel pain will die from that, but I guess ones who don't won't. --[[User:Rick|Rick]] 12:08, 28 November 2007 (EST)

:: Just checked - yes they are. That'd explain it then, ta. [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 14:38, 28 November 2007 (EST)

User talk:Rick

2007-11-28T11:59:00Z

Runspotrun: heal.exe bug?

40d Talk:Pressure plate

2007-11-27T22:00:05Z

Runspotrun: /* More detailed instructions? */

Approximately how long after a pressure plate is stepped on will it's effects happen?
For instance, I have a pressure plate. Two squares away is a pit trap linked to the plate. Will that work at all?--[[User:Tarsier|Tarsier]] 22:50, 7 November 2007 (EST)

== More detailed instructions? ==

Might be worth adding to the article instructions on common operations with pressure plates. For example, how do you use a plate to close a floodgate? Does the plate open, close or toggle the gate? Should it be set to activate when the water/magma level is low or high? etc. [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 15:37, 27 November 2007 (EST)
:Heh. Just figured it out. Is it correct? [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 17:00, 27 November 2007 (EST)

40d:Pressure plate

2007-11-27T21:54:11Z

Runspotrun:

40d Talk:Pressure plate

2007-11-27T20:37:34Z

Runspotrun: More detailed instructions?

40d:Pressure plate

2007-11-27T20:35:06Z

Runspotrun:

40d Talk:Well

2007-11-26T11:08:25Z

Runspotrun: Flooding?

Where can these be constructed? only near an aquifer?--[[User:Alc|Alc]] 14:16, 30 October 2007 (EDT)

Open space probably refers to just that - a dug-out space below it that leads to water. Will have to test, though. --[[User:Tracker|Tracker]] 15:54, 30 October 2007 (EDT)

Does it need to be a channel all the way down, on all levels below the well, or can you have normal floor below it all the way down to water? Can you put one well directly above another well, and have them both work (if there's water below)? --[[User:Sowelu|Sowelu]] 15:56, 30 October 2007 (EDT)

:You don't need to have channels all the way down. I haven't actually built any, but I don't see why it HAS to go all the way down, I just think there needs to be water there.
::Has it been verified that you need water down there? --[[User:Mitchy|Mitchy]] 11:22, 8 November 2007 (EST)

Does anyone know if it is okay to have a well like this?<br />
(side view)
<pre>
_W_
| | <-- Empty space between water and well
|~| <-- Water down here
---
</pre>
--[[User:Delton|Delton]] 16:07, 14 November 2007 (EST)

Confirmed that the above is a functional well.
--[[User:Delton|Delton]] 07:52, 19 November 2007 (EST)

== Flooding? ==

Gah! Why do my wells keep flooding? How can I prevent this? [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 06:08, 26 November 2007 (EST)

40d:Siege

2007-11-25T06:15:54Z

Runspotrun: /* Active Defense */

A siege is a special time in Fortress mode when an army attempts to attack and kill all of your dwarves. It is at this time you should activate your military, raise the draw bridges and pray you've enough food stocks to last the winter.

During a siege, the option on the main menu 'Abandon Fortress' changes to 'Succumb to the Invasion'.

<blockquote>
Note: As of v0.27.169.33b, sieges are not functioning properly. The siege groups are content to sit at the edge of the map and wait there until some hapless dwarf wanders too close. After wiping the floor with the dwarf, they return to their spot on the edge of the map.
</blockquote>

== Siegers ==

=== Goblins ===

[[Goblins]] will attack whenever they feel like it, after your fortress reaches a certain point. Possibly triggered by fortress wealth now rather than nobles. Sometimes they will even attack when a caravan arrives.

Come in squads of about 15 goblins each, frequently led by individual goblin weaponmasters (or even evil human mercenaries) and sometimes mounted on beak dogs, and ocassionally accompanied by up to 3 squads of 5-8 trolls. The first siege you see with a given fort might consist of as little as a single unmounted squad with no trolls, but the goblin forces will escalate in size as the game progresses. Later on you may be seeing 100 or more goblins show up in a single siege, all mounted, with 10 to 20 trolls.

[[Troll]]s are the goblin "siege engines". They are faster than beak dogs, and will make for buildings and start demolishing. Locked doors will keep the goblins out, but can be demolished by trolls.

If you deflect enough sieges, the ruler of the goblin nation may lead a squad. He's equipped with extra-good quality equipment.

=== Humans ===

Unknown if humans still siege this version, someone confirm.

=== Elves ===

Unknown if elves still siege this version, someone confirm.

== Tips ==
{{old|0.23.130.23a}}
===Active Defense===
*Put your entire [[military]] on duty. With luck, most of them are not sleeping, eating, or drinking. If a [[squad]] leader is is doing anything of that sort, replace him with a more alert squad member (the squad always clusters about the leader. If the leader's eating, the squad will guard the table). Place melee units at major chokepoints, so they can meet the enemy head on, but try to keep them out of direct fire from enemy missile users. Place your own marksdwarves where they can rain death down on the enemies. (This is why you build [[fortifications]].)

*[[War dog]]s are valuable, but shouldn't be the first line of defense, because the enemy bowmen will quickly take care of them. Assign them to your military dwarves, or cage them before the siege, and [[Release the Hounds!|release]] them via lever/pressure plate as the enemy is rounding a blind corner. They're also useful for clearing the field once the siege ends.

*[[Siege Weapons]], catapults and ballistae, can be effective during a siege, but can also be entirely useless. They don't have a wide field of fire, so you'll need to design your fortress ahead of time to funnel your attackers into the weapons' field of fire and then delay them with winding passages while in range. To use them effectively, you really need trained Siege Operators for the task, since siege weapons take up to three real-time minutes for inexperienced operators to load, and the weapons cannot be fired at a precise time; they will fire whenever the operator shows up. Fire early and often: siege operators are civilians, and will run away once the oncoming hordes get too close.

===Passive Defense===
*If you have no trust in your military's power, keep all the dwarves inside and pull the siegers into corridors with [[traps]]. Stone-fall traps are cheap and easy, but are one-shot traps with a long reload time; weapon traps require weapons, but reload themselves after a few seconds, until they eventually get stuck. A 10-square-long entry hall filled with weapons traps will break most [[goblin]] sieges without any help. (How boring!)

*A moat may provide a decent defense when combined with a drawbridge to either keep the goblins from entering, or to drop them right into the water. Substitute magma for some far more lethal results.

=== Civilians ===

* Your normal dwarves will still attempt to do their jobs during a siege. The [[Options]]->Dwarves Stay Inside option will prevent them from going outside, but only after walking to the entrance. Since many of your major defenses will be inside the fortress, this is only somewhat useful. Dwarves will run from invaders, but only ''after'' getting within crossbow-range, so their self-preservation skills are lackluster when the enemy has ranged weapons. Therefore, your best bet is to draft the dwarves in question (or simply all civilians) into one citizen-squad and station them somewhere out of harm's way. However, if any of your citizens are set to carry weapons or armor, they may decide to go collect equipment from slain goblins/dwarves during the siege, which means they'll run out into the fray. Keep an eye on this, and turn off their [[weapons]]/[[armor]] accordingly.

* Providing indoor pastimes (like [[sculpture garden]], [[zoo]], [[meeting hall]], or a meeting area zone) will make dwarves spend their break time in the fortress rather than outside. This will typically stop all dwarves from hanging around outside. Hunters, woodcutters, haulers and other dwarves who have business outside will still be at risk.

* Lock the front [[door]]s. If you still have valuable dwarves outside looking for a way in, you might try the [[Maxwell's Demon]] approach: keep locking and unlocking doors just as dwarves arrive so as to keep as many dwarves in as possible. If you don't understand why this is called Maxwell's Demon, read [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell's_demon this Wikipedia Article].

[[Category:World]]
[[Category:Military]]
[[Category:Fortress Defense]]

40d:Siege

2007-11-25T06:07:13Z

Runspotrun: /* Goblins */

A siege is a special time in Fortress mode when an army attempts to attack and kill all of your dwarves. It is at this time you should activate your military, raise the draw bridges and pray you've enough food stocks to last the winter.

During a siege, the option on the main menu 'Abandon Fortress' changes to 'Succumb to the Invasion'.

<blockquote>
Note: As of v0.27.169.33b, sieges are not functioning properly. The siege groups are content to sit at the edge of the map and wait there until some hapless dwarf wanders too close. After wiping the floor with the dwarf, they return to their spot on the edge of the map.
</blockquote>

== Siegers ==

=== Goblins ===

[[Goblins]] will attack whenever they feel like it, after your fortress reaches a certain point. Possibly triggered by fortress wealth now rather than nobles. Sometimes they will even attack when a caravan arrives.

Come in squads of about 15 goblins each, frequently led by individual goblin weaponmasters (or even evil human mercenaries) and sometimes mounted on beak dogs, and ocassionally accompanied by up to 3 squads of 5-8 trolls. The first siege you see with a given fort might consist of as little as a single unmounted squad with no trolls, but the goblin forces will escalate in size as the game progresses. Later on you may be seeing 100 or more goblins show up in a single siege, all mounted, with 10 to 20 trolls.

[[Troll]]s are the goblin "siege engines". They are faster than beak dogs, and will make for buildings and start demolishing. Locked doors will keep the goblins out, but can be demolished by trolls.

If you deflect enough sieges, the ruler of the goblin nation may lead a squad. He's equipped with extra-good quality equipment.

=== Humans ===

Unknown if humans still siege this version, someone confirm.

=== Elves ===

Unknown if elves still siege this version, someone confirm.

== Tips ==
{{old|0.23.130.23a}}
===Active Defense===
*Put your entire [[military]] on duty. With luck, most of them are not sleeping, eating, or drinking. If a [[squad]] leader is is doing anything of that sort, replace him with a more alert squad member (the squad always clusters about the leader. If the leader's eating, the squad will guard the table). Place melee units at major chokepoints, so they can meet the enemy head on, but try to keep them out of direct fire from enemy missile users. Place your own marksdwarves where they can rain death down on the enemies. (This is why you build [[fortifications]].)

*War [[dogs]] are valuable, but shouldn't be the first line of defense, because the enemy bowmen will quickly take care of them. Assign them to your military dwarves, or cage them before the siege, and [[Release the Hounds!|release]] them via lever/pressure plate as the enemy is rounding a blind corner. They're also useful for clearing the field once the siege ends.

*[[Siege Weapons]], catapults and ballistae, can be effective during a siege, but can also be entirely useless. They don't have a wide field of fire, so you'll need to design your fortress ahead of time to funnel your attackers into the weapons' field of fire and then delay them with winding passages while in range. To use them effectively, you really need trained Siege Operators for the task, since siege weapons take up to three real-time minutes for inexperienced operators to load, and the weapons cannot be fired at a precise time; they will fire whenever the operator shows up. Fire early and often: siege operators are civilians, and will run away once the oncoming hordes get too close.

===Passive Defense===
*If you have no trust in your military's power, keep all the dwarves inside and pull the siegers into corridors with [[traps]]. Stone-fall traps are cheap and easy, but are one-shot traps with a long reload time; weapon traps require weapons, but reload themselves after a few seconds, until they eventually get stuck. A 10-square-long entry hall filled with weapons traps will break most [[goblin]] sieges without any help. (How boring!)

*A moat may provide a decent defense when combined with a drawbridge to either keep the goblins from entering, or to drop them right into the water. Substitute magma for some far more lethal results.

=== Civilians ===

* Your normal dwarves will still attempt to do their jobs during a siege. The [[Options]]->Dwarves Stay Inside option will prevent them from going outside, but only after walking to the entrance. Since many of your major defenses will be inside the fortress, this is only somewhat useful. Dwarves will run from invaders, but only ''after'' getting within crossbow-range, so their self-preservation skills are lackluster when the enemy has ranged weapons. Therefore, your best bet is to draft the dwarves in question (or simply all civilians) into one citizen-squad and station them somewhere out of harm's way. However, if any of your citizens are set to carry weapons or armor, they may decide to go collect equipment from slain goblins/dwarves during the siege, which means they'll run out into the fray. Keep an eye on this, and turn off their [[weapons]]/[[armor]] accordingly.

* Providing indoor pastimes (like [[sculpture garden]], [[zoo]], [[meeting hall]], or a meeting area zone) will make dwarves spend their break time in the fortress rather than outside. This will typically stop all dwarves from hanging around outside. Hunters, woodcutters, haulers and other dwarves who have business outside will still be at risk.

* Lock the front [[door]]s. If you still have valuable dwarves outside looking for a way in, you might try the [[Maxwell's Demon]] approach: keep locking and unlocking doors just as dwarves arrive so as to keep as many dwarves in as possible. If you don't understand why this is called Maxwell's Demon, read [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell's_demon this Wikipedia Article].

[[Category:World]]
[[Category:Military]]
[[Category:Fortress Defense]]

40d:Siege

2007-11-25T06:06:38Z

Runspotrun: Siege withdrawal... <twitch>

A siege is a special time in Fortress mode when an army attempts to attack and kill all of your dwarves. It is at this time you should activate your military, raise the draw bridges and pray you've enough food stocks to last the winter.

During a siege, the option on the main menu 'Abandon Fortress' changes to 'Succumb to the Invasion'.

<blockquote>
Note: As of v0.27.169.33b, sieges are not functioning properly. The siege groups are content to sit at the edge of the map and wait there until some hapless dwarf wanders too close. After wiping the floor with the dwarf, they return to their spot on the edge of the map.
</blockquote>

== Siegers ==

=== Goblins ===

[[Goblins]] will attack whenever they feel like it, after your fortress reaches a certain point. Possibly triggered by fortress wealth now rather than nobles. Sometimes they will even attack when a caravan arrives.

Come in squads of about 15 goblins each, frequently led by individual goblin weaponmasters (or even evil human mercenaries) and sometimes mounted on beak dogs, and ocassionally accompanied by up to 3 squads of 5-8 trolls. The first siege you see with a given fort might consist of as little as a single unmounted squad with no trolls, but the goblin forces will escalate in size as the game progresses. Later on you may be seeing 100 or more goblins show up in a single siege, all mounted, with 10 to 20 trolls.

[[Trolls]] are the goblin "siege engines". They are faster than beak dogs, and will make for buildings and start demolishing. Locked doors will keep the goblins out, but can be demolished by trolls.

If you deflect enough sieges, the ruler of the goblin nation may lead a squad. He's equipped with extra-good quality equipment.

=== Humans ===

Unknown if humans still siege this version, someone confirm.

=== Elves ===

Unknown if elves still siege this version, someone confirm.

== Tips ==
{{old|0.23.130.23a}}
===Active Defense===
*Put your entire [[military]] on duty. With luck, most of them are not sleeping, eating, or drinking. If a [[squad]] leader is is doing anything of that sort, replace him with a more alert squad member (the squad always clusters about the leader. If the leader's eating, the squad will guard the table). Place melee units at major chokepoints, so they can meet the enemy head on, but try to keep them out of direct fire from enemy missile users. Place your own marksdwarves where they can rain death down on the enemies. (This is why you build [[fortifications]].)

*War [[dogs]] are valuable, but shouldn't be the first line of defense, because the enemy bowmen will quickly take care of them. Assign them to your military dwarves, or cage them before the siege, and [[Release the Hounds!|release]] them via lever/pressure plate as the enemy is rounding a blind corner. They're also useful for clearing the field once the siege ends.

*[[Siege Weapons]], catapults and ballistae, can be effective during a siege, but can also be entirely useless. They don't have a wide field of fire, so you'll need to design your fortress ahead of time to funnel your attackers into the weapons' field of fire and then delay them with winding passages while in range. To use them effectively, you really need trained Siege Operators for the task, since siege weapons take up to three real-time minutes for inexperienced operators to load, and the weapons cannot be fired at a precise time; they will fire whenever the operator shows up. Fire early and often: siege operators are civilians, and will run away once the oncoming hordes get too close.

===Passive Defense===
*If you have no trust in your military's power, keep all the dwarves inside and pull the siegers into corridors with [[traps]]. Stone-fall traps are cheap and easy, but are one-shot traps with a long reload time; weapon traps require weapons, but reload themselves after a few seconds, until they eventually get stuck. A 10-square-long entry hall filled with weapons traps will break most [[goblin]] sieges without any help. (How boring!)

*A moat may provide a decent defense when combined with a drawbridge to either keep the goblins from entering, or to drop them right into the water. Substitute magma for some far more lethal results.

=== Civilians ===

* Your normal dwarves will still attempt to do their jobs during a siege. The [[Options]]->Dwarves Stay Inside option will prevent them from going outside, but only after walking to the entrance. Since many of your major defenses will be inside the fortress, this is only somewhat useful. Dwarves will run from invaders, but only ''after'' getting within crossbow-range, so their self-preservation skills are lackluster when the enemy has ranged weapons. Therefore, your best bet is to draft the dwarves in question (or simply all civilians) into one citizen-squad and station them somewhere out of harm's way. However, if any of your citizens are set to carry weapons or armor, they may decide to go collect equipment from slain goblins/dwarves during the siege, which means they'll run out into the fray. Keep an eye on this, and turn off their [[weapons]]/[[armor]] accordingly.

* Providing indoor pastimes (like [[sculpture garden]], [[zoo]], [[meeting hall]], or a meeting area zone) will make dwarves spend their break time in the fortress rather than outside. This will typically stop all dwarves from hanging around outside. Hunters, woodcutters, haulers and other dwarves who have business outside will still be at risk.

* Lock the front [[door]]s. If you still have valuable dwarves outside looking for a way in, you might try the [[Maxwell's Demon]] approach: keep locking and unlocking doors just as dwarves arrive so as to keep as many dwarves in as possible. If you don't understand why this is called Maxwell's Demon, read [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell's_demon this Wikipedia Article].

[[Category:World]]
[[Category:Military]]
[[Category:Fortress Defense]]

40d:Known bugs and issues

2007-11-22T09:39:13Z

Runspotrun: /* Progressive Aristocracy */ Hiding my shame.

==Bugfix log for 0.27.169.33b:==
* 11/15/2007: Fixed lag caused by creatures wandering in liquid, tweaked pathfinding, fixed lag associated to wilderness creatures
* 11/14/2007: Stopped miasma from escaping coffins, stopped floor removal over constructed walls from leaving empty space, stopped channeling a floor over a constructed wall from leaving empty space, fixed some cases of liquid flows not starting up properly, fixed problem with windows and vision, caused some buildings to block vermin, cleaned residual jobs on site saves, stopped buildings from destroying ramps/stairs, fixed connectivity problem from ramp digging, fixed a problem with constructed stair placement, stopped appointment of leader position, gave threadable stones economic status, fixed a few problems with counter offers
* 11/13/2007: Fixed trap component/anvil metal use issues, stopped live vermin from being eaten all the time, stopped square trampling from removing dig designations, stopped stockpiles from removing liquids on placement
* 11/12/2007: Fixed crash bug from archery training, fixed a problem with wagon pathing, fixed problem with wagon speed, handled problem with 3D projectile targeting, capped reclaim squad number, stopped vegetation from growing on ramps/stairs, stopped innate swimmers from gaining swim skill, fixed some material typos, stopped 2 mayors from being present at once, fixed a problem with blood hanging in the air, handled problem with caveins involving stairs and ramps
* 11/09/2007: Fixed scrolling problem on load screen, fixed crash caused by viewing the inventories of additional units, fixed problem with traded armor items not being recognized, fixed problem with moods not getting started, fixed problem with list update on stockpile mode paging, handled some of the problems keeping dwarves stuck on unpathable terrain
* 11/08/2007: Fixed embark crash in cliff areas, fixed crash caused by seed trade valuation, fixed lockup from dry wells, fixed crash from sewing cloth images, handled a reclaim/adv mode crash, added a bit of text to wells, fixed problem with edge construction restriction, eliminated a tantrum lag/freeze problem
* 11/06/2007: Fixed problem with fortress advancement
* 11/01/2007: Fixed a few typos

==Bugfix log for 0.27.169.33a:==
* 10/31/2007: Fixed problem with work quota validations not being saved, fixed various typos, fixed problem with count promotion, made damp stone warning do diagonals, fixed lag from creatures passing each other, fixed problem with smelter metal counts, added fuel notification for smelter, fixed problem with caravan weight calculations involving seeds and animal corpses, fixed problem with walls turning into soil upon being carved into fortifications, tweaked embark warnings, fixed problem with building material temperature checks, fixed problem with cookable raw fish not being recognized once they are brought to the kitchen, handled water table designation on dig, made main layer stones default to unrestricted even if they are economic, fixed problem with blinking designations, automatically freed broker from depot upon merchant departure, added wooden blocks, fixed various forge jobs, fixed problem with creatures not taking fall damage from hitting the bottom of the playable area
* 10/30/2007: Fixed embark screen abort crash bug, got rid of some duplicate entity links, fixed handling of abandoned fortress migrant entry links and corresponding reclaim crash, fixed displayed affiliation of previous settlers, stopped previous settlers from being in ambush, fixed well crash bug, fixed broken smelter jobs, changed how hidden tiles are displayed, fixed accumulated midmap cleaner
* 10/29/2007: Fixed spelling of negotiator

=Current Bugs=

==Miners Stuck==
(needs testing in latest version)
My Miners, after they mind a floor down and then started mining to the left, stopped and tried to move the boulders that were left behind but when they did they couldn't find their way. What I did was I mined to the right a little then I made two ramps right next to each other, on the lower level, and then I mined to the left. Some stone was present and so my miners tried to move it to the stock pile but they couldn't find the way back to the surface. They were stuck in an infinite loop of not finding there path.

== Floating Dwarves and etc ==
(needs testing in latest version)
Certain situations can occur that will break pathfinding on a dwarf and leave him stranded in the air. Building a stairs to his location doesn't seem to help.

== Floating Boulders ==
(needs testing in latest version)
If you dig an up ramp to a tile with boulders, then remove the up ramp, the boulders may end up floating in midair.
:If you get this you can build a floor underneath the boulder (on the higher level of course) and it fixes the problem.

== Rewalling Quirks ==

# Diagonal rewalling is silently pathblocked.
# Rewalling from the top of a ramp is apparently silently pathblocked.
# Walls made by rewalling start out smoothed, but cannot be engraved.

== Optimal pathfinding ==

When digging an area from two ends (ie. farm from outside river and inside hallway) dwarves sometimes choose to start digging from the other end, causing them to run back and forth, digging just one rock at a time in worst case.

It is also common for digging/item placement to start with the tile to the right of the dwarf, even if the path is closer using another direction. Keep this in mind when placing floodgates or digging out areas where you could paint yourself in a corner.

== The Most Dangerous Game ==

If you have two or more miners digging a channel, they ''will'' try to dig it under each other's feet, sending their fellows plummeting into the hole. (If you only designate channels on un-mined squares, this won't happen, as the dwarves seem to mine both levels' tiles out at the same time)

Even a single miner digging a channel can get into trouble. Miners may "paint themselves into a corner" and end up surrounded by channel tiles, unable to remove the last channel tile under their own feet.

Related but not really: If you ask a dwarf to remove a floor you've built, he will -stand on it- while removing it. Problematic if, say, it's over a hundred-yard cliff, but still a good way to get the sand down covering the floor at the magma forge 6 levels down.

== We All Fall Down==

If a dwarf goes to remove a floor, he removes it while standing on it, and will subsequently fall down if there's no ground underneath. --[[User:Plasma|Plasma]] 20:23, 31 October 2007 (EDT)

: This also occurs when removing staircases. --[[User:JT|JT]] 20:26, 31 October 2007 (EDT)

== Weight Issues ==
Are steel bolts supposed to weigh 10 units each? It makes a quiver of 25 three times as heavy as the crossbow [[User:HeckRuler|HeckRuler]] 17:09, 1 November 2007 (EDT)

== Startup - Civilization Selection ==
When you are choosing you starting location, if you move the starting zone on the local (leftmost) map, cycle to the Civ Selection tab (rightmost), and change Civ, the area selected on the left will default to original location and size.

[[User:Rylen|Rylen]] 23:21, 1 November 2007 (EDT)

== Theft in Adventure Mode ==
In the 2D version, you had to actually reach the edge of the map to lay permanent claim to your five-fingered discounts, which was fine. In the 3D version, the area maps are seamless, but the game still seems to think you have to touch a seam before you can own your five-fingered discounts, which very obviously causes problems for would-be thieves and other sorts who would just like to enjoy their newfound treasures in peace. Note that it is *not* a bug that you have to walk over to things you purchase in shops and pick them up yourself, despite the behavior being different in just about every other game out there (for those who know not what I mean, other games magically transport that new sword right into your backpack after your purchase, and sometimes even right into your hands). --[[User:BDR|BDR]] 08:41, 2 November 2007 (EDT)

== Love Conquers All ==

A chained animal, when they spot their original trainer, will break free of their chains and go to greet him/her. Hence chaining animals is practically useless.

== Outpost liason ==
The npc dwarf that arrives the first autumn never leaves for me. He eventually gets hungry and goes rampage. Although the [[expedition leader]] has no other tasks, he seems to not be able to fully complete the meeting with the liason. I discussed this in the irc channel and it seems to be some wierd bug.

''The liason is following the expedition leader around trying to talk to him. Atleast in my game, whenever the exp.leader has a idle moment, part of the meeting takes place until he has idled enough times to finish the meeting completely. (edit by: Uberubert)''

''Apparently it sometimes happens even if the liason finishes the meeting. Best answer I've seen is that the liason forgets how to use stairs after the meeting, so maybe try to keep your noble's office or other meeting place on the "ground floor." (edit by: Rabid Llama)''

''I had a meeting place outdoors and this still happened. It doesn't matter where the meeting takes place. Assuming you can get the meeting to actually occur - which takes some work - if it doesn't properly conclude, the liason will be stuck. (edit by: Captain Failmore)''

''Oh, also, for the meeting to even take place or properly conclude, your broker has to have ALL OTHER LABOR turned off. Leave their labors off until the meeting concludes in full. (That is, you've been 'shown the documents' twice and the liaison wishes you well before leaving.) If you let the meeting conclude in full without assigning labor to your broker (who may and probably will wander about aimlessly for some time while the meeting is taking place for reasons I don't know) the liaison WILL leave.

==A Time To Wait==
Sieges completely do not work, and goblins will just mill around aimlessly at the edge of the map waiting for your dwarves to come and kill them. Toady has said something about the AI for sieges being broken.

Sometimes you can get the goblins to approach by sacrificing a dwarf. Send him near enough for them to notice him, then have him withdraw. Note that if he is a soldier, you need to set the military option "squad stays close to station" for him to withdraw instead of charging the goblins. It may be easier to remove him from the military so that he will flee, but this stands the chance that he will not notice the goblins until he is full of arrows.

==Sticky Keys==
Sometimes when you are scrolling on the map the keys will seem to stick, and you will keep scrolling forever. This happens when you release a key out of the order in which it was pressed.

Example:
*{{key|8}}
*{{key|Shift}}+{{key|8}}
*{{key|Shift}}
*No key pressed.

After holding the above keys you will continue going up until you press the following or {{key|Alt}}+{{key|Tab}}.

*{{key|Shift}}+{{key|8}}
*{{key|Shift}}
*{{key|8}}

This will clear out the pressed key flag in the game.

:I've found if you merely press the direction key of the scrolling on the numpad this scrolling stops. No need to fiddle with the shift or in what order the shift key is pressed.--[[User:Mylon|Mylon]] 17:35, 13 November 2007 (EST)
::That won't work if you were using shift to accelerate your move speed. You have to tap the key with shift pressed to clear out the shift+key then press just key to clear it out as well.--[[User:Ikkonoishi|Ikkonoishi]] 21:38, 13 November 2007 (EST)
:Switch Numlock off, fixes it for me --[[User:AdaIsDead|AdaIsDead]] 18:59, 16 November 2007 (EST)

==Thawing stairs==
I have a brook that freezes in the winter. Awesome. I dug a down-stairs down into it and started diggin about in the ice. When the thaw came, the ice broke up and the flow resumed, but the stairs remained. Unfortunetly, this is on the old version .32a [[User:HeckRuler|HeckRuler]] 17:44, 15 November 2007 (EST)

==Picky Elves==
The elves will not trade for Orthoclase or Gabbro rock crafts because the crafts were once alive.

==Bottomless Waterskin==
Whenever my soldiers fill their water from the well, it is always stagnant, even though it's connected directly to the fresh-water brook. They seem to be unsatisfied with this, so they return to the well and fill it again with stagnant water. They continue to do this, and seeing as the waterskin seems to have no limit, they carry around 300+ cups of useless water, which slows them down considerably. It's possible to undraft them and have them dump the flasks, but then I don't know how I can have them carry water around.

==Rags and Riches==
Clothing is completely bugged, in that as clothes wear out, dwarves will get unhappy thoughts from the fact, without ever doing anything about it. They will occasionally claim new clothes as they become available, but will often simply wear the new clothes over the nasty rags which are giving them unhappy thoughts. It is much better to simply never provide clothes for dwarves and let their clothes rot off once and for all. Dwarves get no unhappy thoughts from being naked, and this stops the constant unhappiness from wearing old clothes.

== Progressive Aristocracy ==
While no other dwarf can have a same-sex consort, the King ''can'' arrive with a King Consort.
:Monarch's prerogative, I say. Royalty often marries for political reasons rather than love.--[[User:Trukkle|Trukkle]] 02:08, 22 November 2007 (EST)

=Fixed Bugs=

== You and what army? ==
(fixed in 0.27.169.33b by capping number of dwarves in reclaim squad)
Reclaiming a fortress built next-to/beneath/near a goblin or kobold colony will cause all the items in said monster colony to be counted toward your fortress wealth, and will cause a ridiculous number of dwarves to be spawned in the reclaim squad, often over 150. This would make overrunning the goblin/kobold fort much easier, at least, but is still a bug.

== Fatal crash on embark ==
(partially fixed in 0.27.169.33a)
(fully? fixed in 0.27.169.33b)
The first fortress I tried to create resulted in the program's hard crash right after the disembarkment screen. I has manually selected the location (sorry I don't remember it's features) and equipment. I swapped out the anvil for a LOT of items: extra barrels, food, crossbows and bolts. I also swapped the copper pick out for a steel pick. The fortress was not created in the files. I think it also refused to save the world map, but that might be user error. The next default fortress worked fine. [[User:HeckRuler|HeckRuler]] 15:27, 1 November 2007 (EDT)

== Hole in a Wall ==
(explicitly fixed in 0.27.169.33b)
If a dwarf removes a floor that's on top of a wall, the dwarf will get stuck, and the Visualisation reveals that the floor tile of that wall is completely missing. --[[User:Plasma|Plasma]] 20:23, 31 October 2007 (EDT)

== Multiple Mayors ==
(explicitly fixed in 0.27.169.33b, ability to designate leader was also removed?)
You can end up with multiple mayors in your fortress: One from the expedition leader, and one elected later when the population gets high enough. These positions should probably be seperate jobs, or the elected one should replace the original mayor/leader, and he/she should become 'mayor emeritus' or something.

From what I have seen there is only 'one' active Mayor (whoever is on the noble screen as having the job) but the dwarves retain the title when they are removed from office. I have 6 mayors running around but only one (the current one) does the mayor's work. It's confusing as hell --[[User:Gorfob|Gorfob]] 22:35, 8 November 2007 (EST)

== Infinite [[Blood]] aka Wipe your feet==
(temporary? fix in 0.27.169.33b by autocleaning all tiles at end of each season)
For some reason, blood is constantly 'growing'. Blood from an accident in the centre of the village (wooden buildings) seems to be spreading further and further without dissapearing. --[[User:Plasma|Plasma]] 20:23, 31 October 2007 (EDT)

:Don't you know? Your dwarves are building a shrine to Armok. -[[User:EarthquakeDamage|EarthquakeDamage]] 11:10, 2 November 2007 (EDT)

related: not that mine's disappearing, but my fortress has a cleaning jobspam related to the blood - "such and such cancels job - can't find path x23490872340982734098273409283", just like empty archer traps in old-school df. any help? or do I have to abuse traffic designations (and my main hut) to get rid of the damned stuff?

::For both problems, try designating a single dwarf to cleaning jobs only. Let me know if that helps, because I had similar problems but the blood was dealt with eventually and cleaned. [[User:Schm0|Schm0]] 11:58, 11 November 2007 (EST)

Related to the above issue, [[mud]] can be tracked through your fortress by dwarves stepping over it. The tracked mud is treated like fresh mud, and will thus take a very long time to dry. Dwarves stepping over this new mud will then track it elsewhere, causing the mud to eventually take over your fortress. Dwarves stepping onto a [[bridge]] will stop tracking mud around, so it may be possible to stop the spread of mud by building a bridge outside of the muddy area.

==Sew plant fiber image crash==
(explicitly fixed in 0.27.169.33b)
Ordering plant fiber image in Clothier's Shop reliably crashes the game.
:Fixed, according to the dev blog.--[[User:Mylon|Mylon]] 17:36, 13 November 2007 (EST)

==Buff Swimmers==
(explicitly fixed in 0.27.169.33b)
All creatures get stat boosts by training up skills. This is normal. Aquatic creatures can train swimming simply by being on the map. This leads to some very buff carp or lizardmen or other creatures if they've been in water for a significant amount of time.
:According to the dev blog, this has been fixed.

== Ducky Go Down The Hoooole ==
(partially fixed in 0.27.169.33a)
(fully? fixed in 0.27.169.33b)
Wells crash the game now and then.

In 33a, I had a crash on my well the moment a dwarf hit it up for water when the stream under had frozen or reduced height, one or the other. --arr

==Trading crash==
(explicitly fixed in 0.27.169.33b, had to do with seed prices)
Sometimes offering a trade to traders the game crashes. Sometimes looking at the inventory of traders using the view units screen crashes the game.

== Contents Under Pressure ==
(explicitly fixed in 0.27.169.33a)
Melting metal items produces a crapload of metal.

Assumed to be a code error involving the repacement of a / with a * (i.e. multiplying by 30 instead of dividing, in the case of metal bolts).

== Making Metal Bars ==
(explicitly fixed in 0.27.169.33a)
At [[Talk:Galena]] a bug is mentioned that apparently gives you fewer metal bars than you should have when producing them at a smelter. I havent confirmed it though. --[[User:Mizipzor|Mizipzor]] 17:35, 31 October 2007 (EDT)

:This refers to alloys. When making an alloy, only one bar is created, instead of the 2-4 that are supposed to show up. Avoid alloys until the version after 0.27.169.32a is released.--[[User:McFrugal|McFrugal]] 20:08, 31 October 2007 (EDT)

=Bugs that aren't REALLY bugs=

==Too tired to sleep==
If a wounded dwarf continually falls unconscious due to their wounds, it will disrupt their sleep, so they eventually go mad of sleep deprivation.
:Should be checked. In 32a, I played with my sherif who was a wounded retired hunter. He kept falling unconscious due to brain injury which never healed, and it really looked like falling unconscious was taken as some part of sleep in itself. I noticed often that unit going to sleep, falling uncouncious, then doing 2-3 other tasks when he waked up and went to his quarter to sleep again. Of course, it made for him some very short sleep patterns, so he was often going in for sleep and hardly ever finished a sleep cycle. --[[User:Eagle of Fire|Eagle of Fire]] 01:06, 18 November 2007 (EST)

== Magma Flow ==
Magma will not flow UP stairs. It will flow DOWN them just fine.
Update: Toady mentioned this has to do with magma using the 'chunky' fluid flow, which does not respect pressure.

== Perfect Swimming ==
"Brook" tiles are treated as floor instead of the open space they're supposed to be. Dwarves, animals, even--that's right--wagons can travel over rivers.
(was this fixed on 0.27.169.33a?)
:This isn't a bug. There's just no good way to represent a shallow river with the current depth system. Think of the water tiles below the brook as being an aquifer of sorts. Solid ground, but containing water.--[[User:McFrugal|McFrugal]] 01:37, 2 November 2007 (EDT)

40d:Known bugs and issues

2007-11-22T09:37:43Z

Runspotrun: /* Progressive Aristocracy */

==Bugfix log for 0.27.169.33b:==
* 11/15/2007: Fixed lag caused by creatures wandering in liquid, tweaked pathfinding, fixed lag associated to wilderness creatures
* 11/14/2007: Stopped miasma from escaping coffins, stopped floor removal over constructed walls from leaving empty space, stopped channeling a floor over a constructed wall from leaving empty space, fixed some cases of liquid flows not starting up properly, fixed problem with windows and vision, caused some buildings to block vermin, cleaned residual jobs on site saves, stopped buildings from destroying ramps/stairs, fixed connectivity problem from ramp digging, fixed a problem with constructed stair placement, stopped appointment of leader position, gave threadable stones economic status, fixed a few problems with counter offers
* 11/13/2007: Fixed trap component/anvil metal use issues, stopped live vermin from being eaten all the time, stopped square trampling from removing dig designations, stopped stockpiles from removing liquids on placement
* 11/12/2007: Fixed crash bug from archery training, fixed a problem with wagon pathing, fixed problem with wagon speed, handled problem with 3D projectile targeting, capped reclaim squad number, stopped vegetation from growing on ramps/stairs, stopped innate swimmers from gaining swim skill, fixed some material typos, stopped 2 mayors from being present at once, fixed a problem with blood hanging in the air, handled problem with caveins involving stairs and ramps
* 11/09/2007: Fixed scrolling problem on load screen, fixed crash caused by viewing the inventories of additional units, fixed problem with traded armor items not being recognized, fixed problem with moods not getting started, fixed problem with list update on stockpile mode paging, handled some of the problems keeping dwarves stuck on unpathable terrain
* 11/08/2007: Fixed embark crash in cliff areas, fixed crash caused by seed trade valuation, fixed lockup from dry wells, fixed crash from sewing cloth images, handled a reclaim/adv mode crash, added a bit of text to wells, fixed problem with edge construction restriction, eliminated a tantrum lag/freeze problem
* 11/06/2007: Fixed problem with fortress advancement
* 11/01/2007: Fixed a few typos

==Bugfix log for 0.27.169.33a:==
* 10/31/2007: Fixed problem with work quota validations not being saved, fixed various typos, fixed problem with count promotion, made damp stone warning do diagonals, fixed lag from creatures passing each other, fixed problem with smelter metal counts, added fuel notification for smelter, fixed problem with caravan weight calculations involving seeds and animal corpses, fixed problem with walls turning into soil upon being carved into fortifications, tweaked embark warnings, fixed problem with building material temperature checks, fixed problem with cookable raw fish not being recognized once they are brought to the kitchen, handled water table designation on dig, made main layer stones default to unrestricted even if they are economic, fixed problem with blinking designations, automatically freed broker from depot upon merchant departure, added wooden blocks, fixed various forge jobs, fixed problem with creatures not taking fall damage from hitting the bottom of the playable area
* 10/30/2007: Fixed embark screen abort crash bug, got rid of some duplicate entity links, fixed handling of abandoned fortress migrant entry links and corresponding reclaim crash, fixed displayed affiliation of previous settlers, stopped previous settlers from being in ambush, fixed well crash bug, fixed broken smelter jobs, changed how hidden tiles are displayed, fixed accumulated midmap cleaner
* 10/29/2007: Fixed spelling of negotiator

=Current Bugs=

==Miners Stuck==
(needs testing in latest version)
My Miners, after they mind a floor down and then started mining to the left, stopped and tried to move the boulders that were left behind but when they did they couldn't find their way. What I did was I mined to the right a little then I made two ramps right next to each other, on the lower level, and then I mined to the left. Some stone was present and so my miners tried to move it to the stock pile but they couldn't find the way back to the surface. They were stuck in an infinite loop of not finding there path.

== Floating Dwarves and etc ==
(needs testing in latest version)
Certain situations can occur that will break pathfinding on a dwarf and leave him stranded in the air. Building a stairs to his location doesn't seem to help.

== Floating Boulders ==
(needs testing in latest version)
If you dig an up ramp to a tile with boulders, then remove the up ramp, the boulders may end up floating in midair.
:If you get this you can build a floor underneath the boulder (on the higher level of course) and it fixes the problem.

== Rewalling Quirks ==

# Diagonal rewalling is silently pathblocked.
# Rewalling from the top of a ramp is apparently silently pathblocked.
# Walls made by rewalling start out smoothed, but cannot be engraved.

== Optimal pathfinding ==

When digging an area from two ends (ie. farm from outside river and inside hallway) dwarves sometimes choose to start digging from the other end, causing them to run back and forth, digging just one rock at a time in worst case.

It is also common for digging/item placement to start with the tile to the right of the dwarf, even if the path is closer using another direction. Keep this in mind when placing floodgates or digging out areas where you could paint yourself in a corner.

== The Most Dangerous Game ==

If you have two or more miners digging a channel, they ''will'' try to dig it under each other's feet, sending their fellows plummeting into the hole. (If you only designate channels on un-mined squares, this won't happen, as the dwarves seem to mine both levels' tiles out at the same time)

Even a single miner digging a channel can get into trouble. Miners may "paint themselves into a corner" and end up surrounded by channel tiles, unable to remove the last channel tile under their own feet.

Related but not really: If you ask a dwarf to remove a floor you've built, he will -stand on it- while removing it. Problematic if, say, it's over a hundred-yard cliff, but still a good way to get the sand down covering the floor at the magma forge 6 levels down.

== We All Fall Down==

If a dwarf goes to remove a floor, he removes it while standing on it, and will subsequently fall down if there's no ground underneath. --[[User:Plasma|Plasma]] 20:23, 31 October 2007 (EDT)

: This also occurs when removing staircases. --[[User:JT|JT]] 20:26, 31 October 2007 (EDT)

== Weight Issues ==
Are steel bolts supposed to weigh 10 units each? It makes a quiver of 25 three times as heavy as the crossbow [[User:HeckRuler|HeckRuler]] 17:09, 1 November 2007 (EDT)

== Startup - Civilization Selection ==
When you are choosing you starting location, if you move the starting zone on the local (leftmost) map, cycle to the Civ Selection tab (rightmost), and change Civ, the area selected on the left will default to original location and size.

[[User:Rylen|Rylen]] 23:21, 1 November 2007 (EDT)

== Theft in Adventure Mode ==
In the 2D version, you had to actually reach the edge of the map to lay permanent claim to your five-fingered discounts, which was fine. In the 3D version, the area maps are seamless, but the game still seems to think you have to touch a seam before you can own your five-fingered discounts, which very obviously causes problems for would-be thieves and other sorts who would just like to enjoy their newfound treasures in peace. Note that it is *not* a bug that you have to walk over to things you purchase in shops and pick them up yourself, despite the behavior being different in just about every other game out there (for those who know not what I mean, other games magically transport that new sword right into your backpack after your purchase, and sometimes even right into your hands). --[[User:BDR|BDR]] 08:41, 2 November 2007 (EDT)

== Love Conquers All ==

A chained animal, when they spot their original trainer, will break free of their chains and go to greet him/her. Hence chaining animals is practically useless.

== Outpost liason ==
The npc dwarf that arrives the first autumn never leaves for me. He eventually gets hungry and goes rampage. Although the [[expedition leader]] has no other tasks, he seems to not be able to fully complete the meeting with the liason. I discussed this in the irc channel and it seems to be some wierd bug.

''The liason is following the expedition leader around trying to talk to him. Atleast in my game, whenever the exp.leader has a idle moment, part of the meeting takes place until he has idled enough times to finish the meeting completely. (edit by: Uberubert)''

''Apparently it sometimes happens even if the liason finishes the meeting. Best answer I've seen is that the liason forgets how to use stairs after the meeting, so maybe try to keep your noble's office or other meeting place on the "ground floor." (edit by: Rabid Llama)''

''I had a meeting place outdoors and this still happened. It doesn't matter where the meeting takes place. Assuming you can get the meeting to actually occur - which takes some work - if it doesn't properly conclude, the liason will be stuck. (edit by: Captain Failmore)''

''Oh, also, for the meeting to even take place or properly conclude, your broker has to have ALL OTHER LABOR turned off. Leave their labors off until the meeting concludes in full. (That is, you've been 'shown the documents' twice and the liaison wishes you well before leaving.) If you let the meeting conclude in full without assigning labor to your broker (who may and probably will wander about aimlessly for some time while the meeting is taking place for reasons I don't know) the liaison WILL leave.

==A Time To Wait==
Sieges completely do not work, and goblins will just mill around aimlessly at the edge of the map waiting for your dwarves to come and kill them. Toady has said something about the AI for sieges being broken.

Sometimes you can get the goblins to approach by sacrificing a dwarf. Send him near enough for them to notice him, then have him withdraw. Note that if he is a soldier, you need to set the military option "squad stays close to station" for him to withdraw instead of charging the goblins. It may be easier to remove him from the military so that he will flee, but this stands the chance that he will not notice the goblins until he is full of arrows.

==Sticky Keys==
Sometimes when you are scrolling on the map the keys will seem to stick, and you will keep scrolling forever. This happens when you release a key out of the order in which it was pressed.

Example:
*{{key|8}}
*{{key|Shift}}+{{key|8}}
*{{key|Shift}}
*No key pressed.

After holding the above keys you will continue going up until you press the following or {{key|Alt}}+{{key|Tab}}.

*{{key|Shift}}+{{key|8}}
*{{key|Shift}}
*{{key|8}}

This will clear out the pressed key flag in the game.

:I've found if you merely press the direction key of the scrolling on the numpad this scrolling stops. No need to fiddle with the shift or in what order the shift key is pressed.--[[User:Mylon|Mylon]] 17:35, 13 November 2007 (EST)
::That won't work if you were using shift to accelerate your move speed. You have to tap the key with shift pressed to clear out the shift+key then press just key to clear it out as well.--[[User:Ikkonoishi|Ikkonoishi]] 21:38, 13 November 2007 (EST)
:Switch Numlock off, fixes it for me --[[User:AdaIsDead|AdaIsDead]] 18:59, 16 November 2007 (EST)

==Thawing stairs==
I have a brook that freezes in the winter. Awesome. I dug a down-stairs down into it and started diggin about in the ice. When the thaw came, the ice broke up and the flow resumed, but the stairs remained. Unfortunetly, this is on the old version .32a [[User:HeckRuler|HeckRuler]] 17:44, 15 November 2007 (EST)

==Picky Elves==
The elves will not trade for Orthoclase or Gabbro rock crafts because the crafts were once alive.

==Bottomless Waterskin==
Whenever my soldiers fill their water from the well, it is always stagnant, even though it's connected directly to the fresh-water brook. They seem to be unsatisfied with this, so they return to the well and fill it again with stagnant water. They continue to do this, and seeing as the waterskin seems to have no limit, they carry around 300+ cups of useless water, which slows them down considerably. It's possible to undraft them and have them dump the flasks, but then I don't know how I can have them carry water around.

==Rags and Riches==
Clothing is completely bugged, in that as clothes wear out, dwarves will get unhappy thoughts from the fact, without ever doing anything about it. They will occasionally claim new clothes as they become available, but will often simply wear the new clothes over the nasty rags which are giving them unhappy thoughts. It is much better to simply never provide clothes for dwarves and let their clothes rot off once and for all. Dwarves get no unhappy thoughts from being naked, and this stops the constant unhappiness from wearing old clothes.

== Progressive Aristocracy ==
While no other dwarf can have a same-sex consort, the King ''can'' arrive with a King Consort.
:Monarch's prerogative, I say. Royalty often marries for political reasons rather than love.--[[User:Trukkle|Trukkle]] 02:08, 22 November 2007 (EST)
::OED says consort can be either husband or wife; it just suggest that the consort doesn't 'inherit' rank or status. [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 04:35, 22 November 2007 (EST)
:::Whoops, I'm an idiot. The wife of a king would of course be a Queen-consort. Just ignore me. [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 04:37, 22 November 2007 (EST)

=Fixed Bugs=

== You and what army? ==
(fixed in 0.27.169.33b by capping number of dwarves in reclaim squad)
Reclaiming a fortress built next-to/beneath/near a goblin or kobold colony will cause all the items in said monster colony to be counted toward your fortress wealth, and will cause a ridiculous number of dwarves to be spawned in the reclaim squad, often over 150. This would make overrunning the goblin/kobold fort much easier, at least, but is still a bug.

== Fatal crash on embark ==
(partially fixed in 0.27.169.33a)
(fully? fixed in 0.27.169.33b)
The first fortress I tried to create resulted in the program's hard crash right after the disembarkment screen. I has manually selected the location (sorry I don't remember it's features) and equipment. I swapped out the anvil for a LOT of items: extra barrels, food, crossbows and bolts. I also swapped the copper pick out for a steel pick. The fortress was not created in the files. I think it also refused to save the world map, but that might be user error. The next default fortress worked fine. [[User:HeckRuler|HeckRuler]] 15:27, 1 November 2007 (EDT)

== Hole in a Wall ==
(explicitly fixed in 0.27.169.33b)
If a dwarf removes a floor that's on top of a wall, the dwarf will get stuck, and the Visualisation reveals that the floor tile of that wall is completely missing. --[[User:Plasma|Plasma]] 20:23, 31 October 2007 (EDT)

== Multiple Mayors ==
(explicitly fixed in 0.27.169.33b, ability to designate leader was also removed?)
You can end up with multiple mayors in your fortress: One from the expedition leader, and one elected later when the population gets high enough. These positions should probably be seperate jobs, or the elected one should replace the original mayor/leader, and he/she should become 'mayor emeritus' or something.

From what I have seen there is only 'one' active Mayor (whoever is on the noble screen as having the job) but the dwarves retain the title when they are removed from office. I have 6 mayors running around but only one (the current one) does the mayor's work. It's confusing as hell --[[User:Gorfob|Gorfob]] 22:35, 8 November 2007 (EST)

== Infinite [[Blood]] aka Wipe your feet==
(temporary? fix in 0.27.169.33b by autocleaning all tiles at end of each season)
For some reason, blood is constantly 'growing'. Blood from an accident in the centre of the village (wooden buildings) seems to be spreading further and further without dissapearing. --[[User:Plasma|Plasma]] 20:23, 31 October 2007 (EDT)

:Don't you know? Your dwarves are building a shrine to Armok. -[[User:EarthquakeDamage|EarthquakeDamage]] 11:10, 2 November 2007 (EDT)

related: not that mine's disappearing, but my fortress has a cleaning jobspam related to the blood - "such and such cancels job - can't find path x23490872340982734098273409283", just like empty archer traps in old-school df. any help? or do I have to abuse traffic designations (and my main hut) to get rid of the damned stuff?

::For both problems, try designating a single dwarf to cleaning jobs only. Let me know if that helps, because I had similar problems but the blood was dealt with eventually and cleaned. [[User:Schm0|Schm0]] 11:58, 11 November 2007 (EST)

Related to the above issue, [[mud]] can be tracked through your fortress by dwarves stepping over it. The tracked mud is treated like fresh mud, and will thus take a very long time to dry. Dwarves stepping over this new mud will then track it elsewhere, causing the mud to eventually take over your fortress. Dwarves stepping onto a [[bridge]] will stop tracking mud around, so it may be possible to stop the spread of mud by building a bridge outside of the muddy area.

==Sew plant fiber image crash==
(explicitly fixed in 0.27.169.33b)
Ordering plant fiber image in Clothier's Shop reliably crashes the game.
:Fixed, according to the dev blog.--[[User:Mylon|Mylon]] 17:36, 13 November 2007 (EST)

==Buff Swimmers==
(explicitly fixed in 0.27.169.33b)
All creatures get stat boosts by training up skills. This is normal. Aquatic creatures can train swimming simply by being on the map. This leads to some very buff carp or lizardmen or other creatures if they've been in water for a significant amount of time.
:According to the dev blog, this has been fixed.

== Ducky Go Down The Hoooole ==
(partially fixed in 0.27.169.33a)
(fully? fixed in 0.27.169.33b)
Wells crash the game now and then.

In 33a, I had a crash on my well the moment a dwarf hit it up for water when the stream under had frozen or reduced height, one or the other. --arr

==Trading crash==
(explicitly fixed in 0.27.169.33b, had to do with seed prices)
Sometimes offering a trade to traders the game crashes. Sometimes looking at the inventory of traders using the view units screen crashes the game.

== Contents Under Pressure ==
(explicitly fixed in 0.27.169.33a)
Melting metal items produces a crapload of metal.

Assumed to be a code error involving the repacement of a / with a * (i.e. multiplying by 30 instead of dividing, in the case of metal bolts).

== Making Metal Bars ==
(explicitly fixed in 0.27.169.33a)
At [[Talk:Galena]] a bug is mentioned that apparently gives you fewer metal bars than you should have when producing them at a smelter. I havent confirmed it though. --[[User:Mizipzor|Mizipzor]] 17:35, 31 October 2007 (EDT)

:This refers to alloys. When making an alloy, only one bar is created, instead of the 2-4 that are supposed to show up. Avoid alloys until the version after 0.27.169.32a is released.--[[User:McFrugal|McFrugal]] 20:08, 31 October 2007 (EDT)

=Bugs that aren't REALLY bugs=

==Too tired to sleep==
If a wounded dwarf continually falls unconscious due to their wounds, it will disrupt their sleep, so they eventually go mad of sleep deprivation.
:Should be checked. In 32a, I played with my sherif who was a wounded retired hunter. He kept falling unconscious due to brain injury which never healed, and it really looked like falling unconscious was taken as some part of sleep in itself. I noticed often that unit going to sleep, falling uncouncious, then doing 2-3 other tasks when he waked up and went to his quarter to sleep again. Of course, it made for him some very short sleep patterns, so he was often going in for sleep and hardly ever finished a sleep cycle. --[[User:Eagle of Fire|Eagle of Fire]] 01:06, 18 November 2007 (EST)

== Magma Flow ==
Magma will not flow UP stairs. It will flow DOWN them just fine.
Update: Toady mentioned this has to do with magma using the 'chunky' fluid flow, which does not respect pressure.

== Perfect Swimming ==
"Brook" tiles are treated as floor instead of the open space they're supposed to be. Dwarves, animals, even--that's right--wagons can travel over rivers.
(was this fixed on 0.27.169.33a?)
:This isn't a bug. There's just no good way to represent a shallow river with the current depth system. Think of the water tiles below the brook as being an aquifer of sorts. Solid ground, but containing water.--[[User:McFrugal|McFrugal]] 01:37, 2 November 2007 (EDT)

40d:Known bugs and issues

2007-11-22T09:35:25Z

Runspotrun: /* Progressive Aristocracy */

==Bugfix log for 0.27.169.33b:==
* 11/15/2007: Fixed lag caused by creatures wandering in liquid, tweaked pathfinding, fixed lag associated to wilderness creatures
* 11/14/2007: Stopped miasma from escaping coffins, stopped floor removal over constructed walls from leaving empty space, stopped channeling a floor over a constructed wall from leaving empty space, fixed some cases of liquid flows not starting up properly, fixed problem with windows and vision, caused some buildings to block vermin, cleaned residual jobs on site saves, stopped buildings from destroying ramps/stairs, fixed connectivity problem from ramp digging, fixed a problem with constructed stair placement, stopped appointment of leader position, gave threadable stones economic status, fixed a few problems with counter offers
* 11/13/2007: Fixed trap component/anvil metal use issues, stopped live vermin from being eaten all the time, stopped square trampling from removing dig designations, stopped stockpiles from removing liquids on placement
* 11/12/2007: Fixed crash bug from archery training, fixed a problem with wagon pathing, fixed problem with wagon speed, handled problem with 3D projectile targeting, capped reclaim squad number, stopped vegetation from growing on ramps/stairs, stopped innate swimmers from gaining swim skill, fixed some material typos, stopped 2 mayors from being present at once, fixed a problem with blood hanging in the air, handled problem with caveins involving stairs and ramps
* 11/09/2007: Fixed scrolling problem on load screen, fixed crash caused by viewing the inventories of additional units, fixed problem with traded armor items not being recognized, fixed problem with moods not getting started, fixed problem with list update on stockpile mode paging, handled some of the problems keeping dwarves stuck on unpathable terrain
* 11/08/2007: Fixed embark crash in cliff areas, fixed crash caused by seed trade valuation, fixed lockup from dry wells, fixed crash from sewing cloth images, handled a reclaim/adv mode crash, added a bit of text to wells, fixed problem with edge construction restriction, eliminated a tantrum lag/freeze problem
* 11/06/2007: Fixed problem with fortress advancement
* 11/01/2007: Fixed a few typos

==Bugfix log for 0.27.169.33a:==
* 10/31/2007: Fixed problem with work quota validations not being saved, fixed various typos, fixed problem with count promotion, made damp stone warning do diagonals, fixed lag from creatures passing each other, fixed problem with smelter metal counts, added fuel notification for smelter, fixed problem with caravan weight calculations involving seeds and animal corpses, fixed problem with walls turning into soil upon being carved into fortifications, tweaked embark warnings, fixed problem with building material temperature checks, fixed problem with cookable raw fish not being recognized once they are brought to the kitchen, handled water table designation on dig, made main layer stones default to unrestricted even if they are economic, fixed problem with blinking designations, automatically freed broker from depot upon merchant departure, added wooden blocks, fixed various forge jobs, fixed problem with creatures not taking fall damage from hitting the bottom of the playable area
* 10/30/2007: Fixed embark screen abort crash bug, got rid of some duplicate entity links, fixed handling of abandoned fortress migrant entry links and corresponding reclaim crash, fixed displayed affiliation of previous settlers, stopped previous settlers from being in ambush, fixed well crash bug, fixed broken smelter jobs, changed how hidden tiles are displayed, fixed accumulated midmap cleaner
* 10/29/2007: Fixed spelling of negotiator

=Current Bugs=

==Miners Stuck==
(needs testing in latest version)
My Miners, after they mind a floor down and then started mining to the left, stopped and tried to move the boulders that were left behind but when they did they couldn't find their way. What I did was I mined to the right a little then I made two ramps right next to each other, on the lower level, and then I mined to the left. Some stone was present and so my miners tried to move it to the stock pile but they couldn't find the way back to the surface. They were stuck in an infinite loop of not finding there path.

== Floating Dwarves and etc ==
(needs testing in latest version)
Certain situations can occur that will break pathfinding on a dwarf and leave him stranded in the air. Building a stairs to his location doesn't seem to help.

== Floating Boulders ==
(needs testing in latest version)
If you dig an up ramp to a tile with boulders, then remove the up ramp, the boulders may end up floating in midair.
:If you get this you can build a floor underneath the boulder (on the higher level of course) and it fixes the problem.

== Rewalling Quirks ==

# Diagonal rewalling is silently pathblocked.
# Rewalling from the top of a ramp is apparently silently pathblocked.
# Walls made by rewalling start out smoothed, but cannot be engraved.

== Optimal pathfinding ==

When digging an area from two ends (ie. farm from outside river and inside hallway) dwarves sometimes choose to start digging from the other end, causing them to run back and forth, digging just one rock at a time in worst case.

It is also common for digging/item placement to start with the tile to the right of the dwarf, even if the path is closer using another direction. Keep this in mind when placing floodgates or digging out areas where you could paint yourself in a corner.

== The Most Dangerous Game ==

If you have two or more miners digging a channel, they ''will'' try to dig it under each other's feet, sending their fellows plummeting into the hole. (If you only designate channels on un-mined squares, this won't happen, as the dwarves seem to mine both levels' tiles out at the same time)

Even a single miner digging a channel can get into trouble. Miners may "paint themselves into a corner" and end up surrounded by channel tiles, unable to remove the last channel tile under their own feet.

Related but not really: If you ask a dwarf to remove a floor you've built, he will -stand on it- while removing it. Problematic if, say, it's over a hundred-yard cliff, but still a good way to get the sand down covering the floor at the magma forge 6 levels down.

== We All Fall Down==

If a dwarf goes to remove a floor, he removes it while standing on it, and will subsequently fall down if there's no ground underneath. --[[User:Plasma|Plasma]] 20:23, 31 October 2007 (EDT)

: This also occurs when removing staircases. --[[User:JT|JT]] 20:26, 31 October 2007 (EDT)

== Weight Issues ==
Are steel bolts supposed to weigh 10 units each? It makes a quiver of 25 three times as heavy as the crossbow [[User:HeckRuler|HeckRuler]] 17:09, 1 November 2007 (EDT)

== Startup - Civilization Selection ==
When you are choosing you starting location, if you move the starting zone on the local (leftmost) map, cycle to the Civ Selection tab (rightmost), and change Civ, the area selected on the left will default to original location and size.

[[User:Rylen|Rylen]] 23:21, 1 November 2007 (EDT)

== Theft in Adventure Mode ==
In the 2D version, you had to actually reach the edge of the map to lay permanent claim to your five-fingered discounts, which was fine. In the 3D version, the area maps are seamless, but the game still seems to think you have to touch a seam before you can own your five-fingered discounts, which very obviously causes problems for would-be thieves and other sorts who would just like to enjoy their newfound treasures in peace. Note that it is *not* a bug that you have to walk over to things you purchase in shops and pick them up yourself, despite the behavior being different in just about every other game out there (for those who know not what I mean, other games magically transport that new sword right into your backpack after your purchase, and sometimes even right into your hands). --[[User:BDR|BDR]] 08:41, 2 November 2007 (EDT)

== Love Conquers All ==

A chained animal, when they spot their original trainer, will break free of their chains and go to greet him/her. Hence chaining animals is practically useless.

== Outpost liason ==
The npc dwarf that arrives the first autumn never leaves for me. He eventually gets hungry and goes rampage. Although the [[expedition leader]] has no other tasks, he seems to not be able to fully complete the meeting with the liason. I discussed this in the irc channel and it seems to be some wierd bug.

''The liason is following the expedition leader around trying to talk to him. Atleast in my game, whenever the exp.leader has a idle moment, part of the meeting takes place until he has idled enough times to finish the meeting completely. (edit by: Uberubert)''

''Apparently it sometimes happens even if the liason finishes the meeting. Best answer I've seen is that the liason forgets how to use stairs after the meeting, so maybe try to keep your noble's office or other meeting place on the "ground floor." (edit by: Rabid Llama)''

''I had a meeting place outdoors and this still happened. It doesn't matter where the meeting takes place. Assuming you can get the meeting to actually occur - which takes some work - if it doesn't properly conclude, the liason will be stuck. (edit by: Captain Failmore)''

''Oh, also, for the meeting to even take place or properly conclude, your broker has to have ALL OTHER LABOR turned off. Leave their labors off until the meeting concludes in full. (That is, you've been 'shown the documents' twice and the liaison wishes you well before leaving.) If you let the meeting conclude in full without assigning labor to your broker (who may and probably will wander about aimlessly for some time while the meeting is taking place for reasons I don't know) the liaison WILL leave.

==A Time To Wait==
Sieges completely do not work, and goblins will just mill around aimlessly at the edge of the map waiting for your dwarves to come and kill them. Toady has said something about the AI for sieges being broken.

Sometimes you can get the goblins to approach by sacrificing a dwarf. Send him near enough for them to notice him, then have him withdraw. Note that if he is a soldier, you need to set the military option "squad stays close to station" for him to withdraw instead of charging the goblins. It may be easier to remove him from the military so that he will flee, but this stands the chance that he will not notice the goblins until he is full of arrows.

==Sticky Keys==
Sometimes when you are scrolling on the map the keys will seem to stick, and you will keep scrolling forever. This happens when you release a key out of the order in which it was pressed.

Example:
*{{key|8}}
*{{key|Shift}}+{{key|8}}
*{{key|Shift}}
*No key pressed.

After holding the above keys you will continue going up until you press the following or {{key|Alt}}+{{key|Tab}}.

*{{key|Shift}}+{{key|8}}
*{{key|Shift}}
*{{key|8}}

This will clear out the pressed key flag in the game.

:I've found if you merely press the direction key of the scrolling on the numpad this scrolling stops. No need to fiddle with the shift or in what order the shift key is pressed.--[[User:Mylon|Mylon]] 17:35, 13 November 2007 (EST)
::That won't work if you were using shift to accelerate your move speed. You have to tap the key with shift pressed to clear out the shift+key then press just key to clear it out as well.--[[User:Ikkonoishi|Ikkonoishi]] 21:38, 13 November 2007 (EST)
:Switch Numlock off, fixes it for me --[[User:AdaIsDead|AdaIsDead]] 18:59, 16 November 2007 (EST)

==Thawing stairs==
I have a brook that freezes in the winter. Awesome. I dug a down-stairs down into it and started diggin about in the ice. When the thaw came, the ice broke up and the flow resumed, but the stairs remained. Unfortunetly, this is on the old version .32a [[User:HeckRuler|HeckRuler]] 17:44, 15 November 2007 (EST)

==Picky Elves==
The elves will not trade for Orthoclase or Gabbro rock crafts because the crafts were once alive.

==Bottomless Waterskin==
Whenever my soldiers fill their water from the well, it is always stagnant, even though it's connected directly to the fresh-water brook. They seem to be unsatisfied with this, so they return to the well and fill it again with stagnant water. They continue to do this, and seeing as the waterskin seems to have no limit, they carry around 300+ cups of useless water, which slows them down considerably. It's possible to undraft them and have them dump the flasks, but then I don't know how I can have them carry water around.

==Rags and Riches==
Clothing is completely bugged, in that as clothes wear out, dwarves will get unhappy thoughts from the fact, without ever doing anything about it. They will occasionally claim new clothes as they become available, but will often simply wear the new clothes over the nasty rags which are giving them unhappy thoughts. It is much better to simply never provide clothes for dwarves and let their clothes rot off once and for all. Dwarves get no unhappy thoughts from being naked, and this stops the constant unhappiness from wearing old clothes.

== Progressive Aristocracy ==
While no other dwarf can have a same-sex consort, the King ''can'' arrive with a King Consort.
:Monarch's prerogative, I say. Royalty often marries for political reasons rather than love.--[[User:Trukkle|Trukkle]] 02:08, 22 November 2007 (EST)
::OED says consort can be either husband or wife; it just suggest that the consort doesn't 'inherit' rank or status. [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 04:35, 22 November 2007 (EST)

=Fixed Bugs=

== You and what army? ==
(fixed in 0.27.169.33b by capping number of dwarves in reclaim squad)
Reclaiming a fortress built next-to/beneath/near a goblin or kobold colony will cause all the items in said monster colony to be counted toward your fortress wealth, and will cause a ridiculous number of dwarves to be spawned in the reclaim squad, often over 150. This would make overrunning the goblin/kobold fort much easier, at least, but is still a bug.

== Fatal crash on embark ==
(partially fixed in 0.27.169.33a)
(fully? fixed in 0.27.169.33b)
The first fortress I tried to create resulted in the program's hard crash right after the disembarkment screen. I has manually selected the location (sorry I don't remember it's features) and equipment. I swapped out the anvil for a LOT of items: extra barrels, food, crossbows and bolts. I also swapped the copper pick out for a steel pick. The fortress was not created in the files. I think it also refused to save the world map, but that might be user error. The next default fortress worked fine. [[User:HeckRuler|HeckRuler]] 15:27, 1 November 2007 (EDT)

== Hole in a Wall ==
(explicitly fixed in 0.27.169.33b)
If a dwarf removes a floor that's on top of a wall, the dwarf will get stuck, and the Visualisation reveals that the floor tile of that wall is completely missing. --[[User:Plasma|Plasma]] 20:23, 31 October 2007 (EDT)

== Multiple Mayors ==
(explicitly fixed in 0.27.169.33b, ability to designate leader was also removed?)
You can end up with multiple mayors in your fortress: One from the expedition leader, and one elected later when the population gets high enough. These positions should probably be seperate jobs, or the elected one should replace the original mayor/leader, and he/she should become 'mayor emeritus' or something.

From what I have seen there is only 'one' active Mayor (whoever is on the noble screen as having the job) but the dwarves retain the title when they are removed from office. I have 6 mayors running around but only one (the current one) does the mayor's work. It's confusing as hell --[[User:Gorfob|Gorfob]] 22:35, 8 November 2007 (EST)

== Infinite [[Blood]] aka Wipe your feet==
(temporary? fix in 0.27.169.33b by autocleaning all tiles at end of each season)
For some reason, blood is constantly 'growing'. Blood from an accident in the centre of the village (wooden buildings) seems to be spreading further and further without dissapearing. --[[User:Plasma|Plasma]] 20:23, 31 October 2007 (EDT)

:Don't you know? Your dwarves are building a shrine to Armok. -[[User:EarthquakeDamage|EarthquakeDamage]] 11:10, 2 November 2007 (EDT)

related: not that mine's disappearing, but my fortress has a cleaning jobspam related to the blood - "such and such cancels job - can't find path x23490872340982734098273409283", just like empty archer traps in old-school df. any help? or do I have to abuse traffic designations (and my main hut) to get rid of the damned stuff?

::For both problems, try designating a single dwarf to cleaning jobs only. Let me know if that helps, because I had similar problems but the blood was dealt with eventually and cleaned. [[User:Schm0|Schm0]] 11:58, 11 November 2007 (EST)

Related to the above issue, [[mud]] can be tracked through your fortress by dwarves stepping over it. The tracked mud is treated like fresh mud, and will thus take a very long time to dry. Dwarves stepping over this new mud will then track it elsewhere, causing the mud to eventually take over your fortress. Dwarves stepping onto a [[bridge]] will stop tracking mud around, so it may be possible to stop the spread of mud by building a bridge outside of the muddy area.

==Sew plant fiber image crash==
(explicitly fixed in 0.27.169.33b)
Ordering plant fiber image in Clothier's Shop reliably crashes the game.
:Fixed, according to the dev blog.--[[User:Mylon|Mylon]] 17:36, 13 November 2007 (EST)

==Buff Swimmers==
(explicitly fixed in 0.27.169.33b)
All creatures get stat boosts by training up skills. This is normal. Aquatic creatures can train swimming simply by being on the map. This leads to some very buff carp or lizardmen or other creatures if they've been in water for a significant amount of time.
:According to the dev blog, this has been fixed.

== Ducky Go Down The Hoooole ==
(partially fixed in 0.27.169.33a)
(fully? fixed in 0.27.169.33b)
Wells crash the game now and then.

In 33a, I had a crash on my well the moment a dwarf hit it up for water when the stream under had frozen or reduced height, one or the other. --arr

==Trading crash==
(explicitly fixed in 0.27.169.33b, had to do with seed prices)
Sometimes offering a trade to traders the game crashes. Sometimes looking at the inventory of traders using the view units screen crashes the game.

== Contents Under Pressure ==
(explicitly fixed in 0.27.169.33a)
Melting metal items produces a crapload of metal.

Assumed to be a code error involving the repacement of a / with a * (i.e. multiplying by 30 instead of dividing, in the case of metal bolts).

== Making Metal Bars ==
(explicitly fixed in 0.27.169.33a)
At [[Talk:Galena]] a bug is mentioned that apparently gives you fewer metal bars than you should have when producing them at a smelter. I havent confirmed it though. --[[User:Mizipzor|Mizipzor]] 17:35, 31 October 2007 (EDT)

:This refers to alloys. When making an alloy, only one bar is created, instead of the 2-4 that are supposed to show up. Avoid alloys until the version after 0.27.169.32a is released.--[[User:McFrugal|McFrugal]] 20:08, 31 October 2007 (EDT)

=Bugs that aren't REALLY bugs=

==Too tired to sleep==
If a wounded dwarf continually falls unconscious due to their wounds, it will disrupt their sleep, so they eventually go mad of sleep deprivation.
:Should be checked. In 32a, I played with my sherif who was a wounded retired hunter. He kept falling unconscious due to brain injury which never healed, and it really looked like falling unconscious was taken as some part of sleep in itself. I noticed often that unit going to sleep, falling uncouncious, then doing 2-3 other tasks when he waked up and went to his quarter to sleep again. Of course, it made for him some very short sleep patterns, so he was often going in for sleep and hardly ever finished a sleep cycle. --[[User:Eagle of Fire|Eagle of Fire]] 01:06, 18 November 2007 (EST)

== Magma Flow ==
Magma will not flow UP stairs. It will flow DOWN them just fine.
Update: Toady mentioned this has to do with magma using the 'chunky' fluid flow, which does not respect pressure.

== Perfect Swimming ==
"Brook" tiles are treated as floor instead of the open space they're supposed to be. Dwarves, animals, even--that's right--wagons can travel over rivers.
(was this fixed on 0.27.169.33a?)
:This isn't a bug. There's just no good way to represent a shallow river with the current depth system. Think of the water tiles below the brook as being an aquifer of sorts. Solid ground, but containing water.--[[User:McFrugal|McFrugal]] 01:37, 2 November 2007 (EDT)

40d Talk:Glass

2007-11-22T09:31:16Z

Runspotrun:

With v 33b, I have successfully made trap components without difficulty, so I've deleted the reference to bars being required. This raises the issue, however, of what damage rating the various sorts of glass get. As far as I can tell, glass doesn't appear in the mat glosses, so I'm not sure how to determine what the actual value is. Anyone have a suggestion? [[User:Doctorlucky|Doctorlucky]] 01:46, 22 November 2007 (EST)
:I can't answer your question of getting the data from the files, but apparently someone has confirmed glass as having 50% damage, so I removed your verify tag and pointed to my source. [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 04:31, 22 November 2007 (EST)

40d:Glass

2007-11-22T09:30:06Z

Runspotrun: /* Properties */ Confirmed!

Glass is an interesting material with widespread uses. Glass is manufactured in a [[Glass furnace]] or [[Magma glass furnace]]. There are three types of glass: Green, Clear and Crystal.

Green glass is manufactured from [[sand]]. Clear glass uses both sand and [[pearlash]], while crystal glass is manufactured from [[Rock crystal]]s and pearlash.

Sand can be gathered in bags using a task available at a glass furnace. You must designate a sand-gathering zone in order for this task to succeed.

==Products==
Glass can be manufactured into a wide variety of products:

*Raw glass is essentially a low-value [[gem]], a frequent request of dwarves undergoing a [[strange mood]]. Given its abundance, raw green glass makes an excellent training material for practicing the [[gem cutting]] skill.
*Glass can be formed into [[block]]s which can then be used for most building purposes. Although this is much more labor-intensive than simple using raw or block stone, some people feel that it has an aesthetic appeal; for example, see Leerok the Lacerta's [http://www.bay12games.com/cgi-local/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=2&t=001365 Glass tower]
*Glass can be used to manufacture a number of [[furniture]] items, including [[armor stand]]s, [[chest|boxes]], [[floodgate]]s, [[hatch cover]]s, [[grate]]s, [[door|portals]], [[statue]]s, [[table]]s, [[throne]]s and [[weapon rack]]s.
*In addition, Glass can be converted into [[Trap]] components, such as [[large, spiked ball]]s or [[giant axe]]s. Unlike their metal counterparts, glass trap mechanisms each utilize only single units of their component materials. For example, a giant green glass axe blade requires only a bag of sand in order to manufacture. Since sand, if present on the map, if effectively an infinite resource, this is a very cheap way to fully outfit a fortress with weapon traps.
*Glass windows can be made at a [[glass furnace]] as an alternative to making windows from gems.
*Outside of [[Metal]] and [[Wood]], Glass is the only readily available material for [[Cage]] construction. A glass cage is called a terrarium, and is unique among cages in that it may be converted into an [[aquarium]] using the an option in the building tasks/prefs menu{{key|q}}{{key|w}}. Terraria may not be used for justice applications.
*Glass [[vial]]s are used in some types of plant processing, and are required to build an [[Alchemist's laboratory]]
*Glass can be formed into a variety of crafts.

Glass items often have unique names:
*A glass [[chest]] is called a box.
*A glass [[door]] is called a portal.
*A glass [[pipe]] is called a tube.
*A glass [[cage]] is called a terrarium.

==Properties==
Green glass has a material value of 2.
Clear glass has a material value of 5.
Crystal glass has a material value of 10.

The damage value of green glass is 50% (confirmed at [[Gem#Glass]]).

[[Category:Materials]]

40d:Cage

2007-11-21T18:59:25Z

Runspotrun:

A '''cage''' is a holding device. Cages cannot be made of [[stone]], but can be made of [[wood]] and [[metal]]. A cage made of [[glass]] is called a terrarium. Cages can hold an unlimited number of [[animals]] and captured [[vermin]] at once. Placing animals in a cage can reduce lag and reduce [[traffic]] in your hallways.

The cage can be used in a few ways:

* A [[jail]], where you designate its location to be used for [[justice]], and a [[sheriff]] will detain any unruly dwarves.
* Animal restraining device, where you simply plant it and allocate any animals you want in it. Particularly handy for keeping track of mating animals. Just assign ({{k|q}} on a cage that has been built ({{k|b}}-{{k|j}}) in a room) all the animals of one type in a cage and let them sit. Soon stray deer fawns will be all over your fortress
** This is also how you go about making a makeshift [[zoo]] for [[trapped]] animals.
* A [[Traps#Cage_Trap|cage trap]] needs a cage as one of its components.

{{Buildings}}

40d:Siege

2007-11-21T18:57:46Z

Runspotrun:

A siege is a special time in Fortress mode when an army attempts to attack and kill all of your dwarves. It is at this time you should activate your military, raise the draw bridges and pray you've enough food stocks to last the winter.

During a siege, the option on the main menu 'Abandon Fortress' changes to 'Succumb to the Invasion'.

<blockquote>
Note: As of the current release{{ver|0.27.169.33b}}, sieges are not functioning properly. The siege groups are content to sit at the edge of the map and wait there until some hapless dwarf wanders too close. After wiping the floor with the dwarf, they return to their spot on the edge of the map.
</blockquote>

== Siegers ==

=== Goblins ===

[[Goblins]] will attack whenever they feel like it, after your fortress reaches a certain point. Possibly triggered by fortress wealth now rather than nobles. Sometimes they will even attack when a caravan arrives.

Come in squads of about 15 goblins each, frequently led by individual goblin weaponmasters (or even evil human mercenaries) and sometimes mounted on beak dogs, and ocassionally accompanied by up to 3 squads of 5-8 trolls. The first siege you see with a given fort might consist of as little as a single unmounted squad with no trolls, but the goblin forces will escalate in size as the game progresses. Later on you may be seeing 100 or more goblins show up in a single siege, all mounted, with 10 to 20 trolls.

[[Trolls]] are the goblin "siege engines". They are faster than beak dogs, and will make for buildings and start demolishing. Locked doors will keep the goblins out, but can be demolished by trolls.

If you deflect enough sieges, the ruler of the goblin nation may lead a squad. He's equipped with extra-good quality equipment.

=== Humans ===

Unknown if humans still siege this version, someone confirm.

=== Elves ===

Unknown if elves still siege this version, someone confirm.

== Tips ==
{{old|0.23.130.23a}}
===Active Defense===
*Put your entire [[military]] on duty. With luck, most of them are not sleeping, eating, or drinking. If a [[squad]] leader is is doing anything of that sort, replace him with a more alert squad member (the squad always clusters about the leader. If the leader's eating, the squad will guard the table). Place melee units at major chokepoints, so they can meet the enemy head on, but try to keep them out of direct fire from enemy missile users. Place your own marksdwarves where they can rain death down on the enemies. (This is why you build [[fortifications]].)

*War [[dogs]] are valuable, but shouldn't be the first line of defense, because the enemy bowmen will quickly take care of them. Assign them to your military dwarves, or cage them before the siege, and [[Release the Hounds!|release]] them via lever/pressure plate as the enemy is rounding a blind corner. They're also useful for clearing the field once the siege ends.

*[[Siege Weapons]], catapults and ballistae, can be effective during a siege, but can also be entirely useless. They don't have a wide field of fire, so you'll need to design your fortress ahead of time to funnel your attackers into the weapons' field of fire and then delay them with winding passages while in range. To use them effectively, you really need trained Siege Operators for the task, since siege weapons take up to three real-time minutes for inexperienced operators to load, and the weapons cannot be fired at a precise time; they will fire whenever the operator shows up. Fire early and often: siege operators are civilians, and will run away once the oncoming hordes get too close.

===Passive Defense===
*If you have no trust in your military's power, keep all the dwarves inside and pull the siegers into corridors with [[traps]]. Stone-fall traps are cheap and easy, but are one-shot traps with a long reload time; weapon traps require weapons, but reload themselves after a few seconds, until they eventually get stuck. A 10-square-long entry hall filled with weapons traps will break most [[goblin]] sieges without any help. (How boring!)

*A moat may provide a decent defense when combined with a drawbridge to either keep the goblins from entering, or to drop them right into the water. Substitute magma for some far more lethal results.

=== Civilians ===

* Your normal dwarves will still attempt to do their jobs during a siege. The [[Options]]->Dwarves Stay Inside option will prevent them from going outside, but only after walking to the entrance. Since many of your major defenses will be inside the fortress, this is only somewhat useful. Dwarves will run from invaders, but only ''after'' getting within crossbow-range, so their self-preservation skills are lackluster when the enemy has ranged weapons. Therefore, your best bet is to draft the dwarves in question (or simply all civilians) into one citizen-squad and station them somewhere out of harm's way. However, if any of your citizens are set to carry weapons or armor, they may decide to go collect equipment from slain goblins/dwarves during the siege, which means they'll run out into the fray. Keep an eye on this, and turn off their [[weapons]]/[[armor]] accordingly.

* Providing indoor pastimes (like [[sculpture garden]], [[zoo]], [[meeting hall]], or a meeting area zone) will make dwarves spend their break time in the fortress rather than outside. This will typically stop all dwarves from hanging around outside. Hunters, woodcutters, haulers and other dwarves who have business outside will still be at risk.

* Lock the front [[door]]s. If you still have valuable dwarves outside looking for a way in, you might try the [[Maxwell's Demon]] approach: keep locking and unlocking doors just as dwarves arrive so as to keep as many dwarves in as possible. If you don't understand why this is called Maxwell's Demon, read [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell's_demon this Wikipedia Article].

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40d Talk:Kitchen

2007-11-20T06:38:37Z

Runspotrun: /* Best way to boost skill? */

What makes something "minced?" And what are the values for each type of prepared meal? [[User:Schm0|Schm0]] 07:34, 18 November 2007 (EST)
:"Minced" is simply a description of food items that get added to a meal. If a cook grabs a plump helmet and a turtle, the resulting meal would be described as having "minced plump helmet" and "minced turtle", or "finely minced" etc. based on the skill of the cook. [[User:Rpb|Rpb]] 12:48, 18 November 2007 (EST)

== Best way to boost skill? ==

Given that lavish meals will usually clutter the kitchen due to number of ingredients, what's the best way to boost a cook's skill? Repeatedly make easy or lavish meals? In fact, do the various levels of meal give different XP? [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 01:37, 20 November 2007 (EST)

Never mind! Answered in [[Cook]]. [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 01:38, 20 November 2007 (EST)

40d Talk:Kitchen

2007-11-20T06:37:33Z

Runspotrun: Best way to boost skill?

40d:Tax collector

2007-11-19T04:36:25Z

Runspotrun:

Upon receiving this noble from immigration, the [[Dwarven Economy]] begins and you can now construct [[Shop]]s.

The trigger for the arrival of the Tax Collector is unknown, but it's not the minting of coins; possibly created or exported wealth.

40d Talk:Tax collector

2007-11-19T04:34:56Z

Runspotrun: New page: I never minted a single coin and still got a Tax Collector in about my 5th year - perhaps the trigger is wealth created or exported? --GameHat :Moved that from the article, Mr Hat. Anyway...

I never minted a single coin and still got a Tax Collector in about my 5th year - perhaps the trigger is wealth created or exported? --GameHat

:Moved that from the article, Mr Hat. Anyway, I agree. I never minted a coin, and still got the Tax Collector. [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 23:34, 18 November 2007 (EST)

40d Talk:Siege

2007-11-19T00:52:37Z

Runspotrun: Still bugged?

===Trigger?===
Just noticed that I got my first (Goblin) siege at 100000 wealth. Anyone else confirm that this is the trigger? [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 00:06, 9 November 2007 (EST)

:I had my first goblin siege at about 600k wealth. They sieged me at 15 levels above ground level, where I had a stairway to my fortress. They loitered around for a season and left. [[User:Kaivosukeltaja|Kaivosukeltaja]] 07:31, 9 November 2007 (EST)

::Thanks. I removed my addition from the article. [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 09:35, 9 November 2007 (EST)

I think part of the trigger is killing a Goblin. I'd captured several Goblin thieves, but it was only after I'd dispatched them that I was besieged. So, (wealth > certain amount) and (has killed Goblins) maybe? [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 23:09, 12 November 2007 (EST)

== Troll squads ==

I had 3 troll squads of exactly 8 trolls in each during a siege. Had a goblin king that time but no beak dogs. Can it be that no beak dogs in goblin civ=better chance for trolls?

== Mounts ==

Woe betide those who anger humans. I added a second human race with [BABYSNATCHER] instead of [SIEGER] for barbarian raiding action. When they sieged, every last one of them was riding a horse. When I approached the buggers kept running away and going all Parthian shot on me, too. It was pretty bad ass. -[[User:EarthquakeDamage|EarthquakeDamage]] 02:23, 10 November 2007 (EST)

== Still bugged? ==

Are sieges still bugged in 33b? If someone knows for certain, could they add the version number to the statement in the article? Ta. [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 19:52, 18 November 2007 (EST)

40d Talk:Armor

2007-11-18T20:17:10Z

Runspotrun:

Does anyone know the rules of where you can wear each piece of armor? For example, can you wear a high boot and leggings? or only low boots with leggings? Do you need to make two boots? --[[User:Mitchy|Mitchy]] 20:30, 9 November 2007 (EST)

: You can wear high boots with leggings. Leggings and high boots have different layers. --[[User:JT|JT]] 17:15, 11 November 2007 (EST)

On a similar note, what's the difference between steel leggings and steel greaves? I would've thought leggings would cover below the knee as well. Do I need both to provide maximum Xtreme protection? [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 15:17, 18 November 2007 (EST)

==Soldier==

I think some of this article, specifically that stuff in the Using armor section, should be moved over to an article more dedicated to soldier preferences. As it is, it's describing everything about arming civilians with weapons instead of simply talking about armoring civilians; that content seems more appropriate for an article about soldiers or the hunting article. --[[User:JT|JT]] 17:15, 11 November 2007 (EST)

==Verified==

I can verify that whan setting dwarves to chain, they wear gauntlets --[[User:Nog|Nog]] 16:21, 12 November 2007 (EST)

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2007-11-16T12:43:57Z

Runspotrun: 11th of January? Any objections to 8601?

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40d Talk:Cage

2007-11-14T02:15:35Z

Runspotrun: Possible addition

How do you put more than one animal in a cage? [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 11:41, 9 November 2007 (EST)

:Once you hit (A)ssign, you should have a list of all tame animals in your fort. From here you can toggle whether or not a given animal is assigned to that cage by hitting Enter. You can do this for a number of creatures at once. Creatures already assigned to a cage or chain will have [A] out to the right of their listing. IIRC, there is a limit on the number of critters in a cage, but it's pretty high. One nice benefit is that if you put a male and female of the same species in a cage together, they can still breed.--[[User:RedKing|RedKing]] 12:25, 9 November 2007 (EST)

::Um...
::(A)ssign? Uh, I don't see that. (a) is announcements, and (A) does nothing. I can see a list of animals with both (u) and (z)->Animals, but they only let me assign to owners, slaughter, etc. Do I need a specific noble? [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 12:41, 9 November 2007 (EST)
::Ah, hold on. I appear to have only caught untamable creatures (yay... I guess). Does (A)ssign only work if I have caged, tame creatures? [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 12:45, 9 November 2007 (EST)

:::Cage options menu, I think {{k|q}} or {{k|t}}. --[[User:Savok|Savok]] 12:48, 9 November 2007 (EST)
::::Wow, I'm being really awkward here. Sorry. {{k|q}} and {{k|t}} both give me options about the animal stockpile the cages are sitting on, or the ground below that. [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 12:55, 9 November 2007 (EST)
:::::Ahh, now I see the problem. You have to {{k|b}}uild the cage first, which moves it from the stockpile to whatever location you specify, then you can assign animals to it. Animal stockpiles just serve as collection points for your trappers to dump off their catch, or for new animals bought from caravans.--[[User:RedKing|RedKing]] 13:19, 9 November 2007 (EST)
::::::AHA! I see it now. Thanks for your help! [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 13:37, 9 November 2007 (EST)

== Possible addition ==

Maybe worth adding to the article : How do you empty cages of bones and seeds? What's the best way to get rid an untameable creature in a cage? [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 21:15, 13 November 2007 (EST)

40d Talk:Fishing

2007-11-13T14:24:55Z

Runspotrun: /* Useful stuff to add to article. */

Most of this was taken from the old wiki as it all seems applicable here. Whether or not fish can be depleted or not I do not know - at this point it seems that the turtle supply is endless.--[[User:Decanter|Decanter]] 05:03, 7 November 2007 (EST)

:I had a 'there is nothing to catch in the swamps' message a few times. so it is possible to deplete all the fish in a pond, but haven't been able to get rid of all the fish. --[[User:Soyweiser|Soyweiser]] 06:40, 7 November 2007 (EST)

== Useful stuff to add to article. ==

Are brooks fishable? Streams? Are swamps depleted permanently or temporarily? [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 09:24, 13 November 2007 (EST)

40d Talk:Fishing

2007-11-13T14:24:41Z

Runspotrun: Useful stuff to add to article.

Most of this was taken from the old wiki as it all seems applicable here. Whether or not fish can be depleted or not I do not know - at this point it seems that the turtle supply is endless.--[[User:Decanter|Decanter]] 05:03, 7 November 2007 (EST)

:I had a 'there is nothing to catch in the swamps' message a few times. so it is possible to deplete all the fish in a pond, but haven't been able to get rid of all the fish. --[[User:Soyweiser|Soyweiser]] 06:40, 7 November 2007 (EST)

== Useful stuff to add to article. ==

Useful stuff...Are brooks fishable? Streams? Are swamps depleted permanently or temporarily? [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 09:24, 13 November 2007 (EST)

40d Talk:Design strategies

2007-11-13T14:24:12Z

Runspotrun: Nifty designs?

Perhaps these explanations of how the various mining commands work should go under a Mining article. "Design strategies" seems like it would be more about layouts for kitchens and pump systems and whatnot. --[[User:BahamutZERO|BahamutZERO]] 19:43, 30 October 2007 (EDT)
: I have inadvetently written an article on [[Digging]] which complements the work on this page. I suggest they be reviewed and relevant parts merged. This page will have a use in future for players to post their designs. I agree with '''BahamutZERO''' that this isn't the place to talk about Mining. --[[User:Markavian|Markavian]] 22:41, 31 October 2007 (EDT)

== Flooded Entrance ==

I'd like to see some sample shots of that Flooded Entrance setup. It's my understanding that the screw pump only pulls water up, not pump it down. Maybe he meant a floodgate for dropping the water down a level. --[[User:Vinic|Vinic]] 16:27, 2 November 2007 (EDT)

:I think what he had was two rooms--one is the actual entrance way, sealed by doors--that have pumps on the level above, dumping thier output into a channel that leads into the room they aren't pumping from.--[[User:Draco18s|Draco18s]] 16:43, 2 November 2007 (EDT)

::Sorry if I was ambiguous in my wording. Hopefully the accompanying screenshot removes any confusion in how it works. --[[User:Lucid|Lucid]] 11:38, 3 November 2007 (EDT)

== Choice of location ==

I think we should get some information up here on selecting a ''proper'' site to start digging your fortress. Sort of a list of ideal criteria to look for on the actual map after you've arrived, taking into account things like elevation, natural rock formations, water and magma, and accessibility. Sort of a guide to the ultimate defense, I suppose. --[[User:Xazak|Xazak]] 14:47, 3 November 2007 (EDT)

:Seconded. That would be indeed useful. --[[User:UltimaPhantom|UltimaPhantom]] 13:43, 8 November 2007 (EST)

==Defense Designs==
I think we should have separate page for defense schemes such as the new trap designs using machines and wall patterns and such. [[User:Jikor|Jikor]] 06:29, 9 November 2007 (EST)

== Nifty designs? ==

Not sure if this is right page, but I'd love a step-by-step about building arenas. [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 09:24, 13 November 2007 (EST)

40d Talk:Goblin

2007-11-13T14:23:15Z

Runspotrun: New page: ==== Thieves & cage traps ==== Not sure that Goblin (master) thieves /can/ evade traps. I've caught a bucketful in cage traps. Didn't know what to do with them, mind... ~~~~

==== Thieves & cage traps ====
Not sure that Goblin (master) thieves /can/ evade traps. I've caught a bucketful in cage traps. Didn't know what to do with them, mind... [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 09:23, 13 November 2007 (EST)

40d Talk:Siege

2007-11-13T14:20:55Z

Runspotrun: /* Trigger? */ Correcting my own English.

40d Talk:Siege

2007-11-13T04:09:17Z

Runspotrun: /* Trigger? */

===Trigger?===
Just noticed that I got my first (Goblin) siege at 100000 wealth. Anyone else confirm that this is the trigger? [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 00:06, 9 November 2007 (EST)

:I had my first goblin siege at about 600k wealth. They sieged me at 15 levels above ground level, where I had a stairway to my fortress. They loitered around for a season and left. [[User:Kaivosukeltaja|Kaivosukeltaja]] 07:31, 9 November 2007 (EST)

::Thanks. I removed my addition from the article. [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 09:35, 9 November 2007 (EST)

I think part of the trigger is killing a goblin. I'd captured several Goblin thieves, but it was only after I'd dispatched them that I was sieged. So, (wealth > certain amount) and (has killed Goblins) maybe? [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 23:09, 12 November 2007 (EST)

== Troll squads ==

I had 3 troll squads of exactly 8 trolls in each during a siege. Had a goblin king that time but no beak dogs. Can it be that no beak dogs in goblin civ=better chance for trolls?

== Mounts ==

Woe betide those who anger humans. I added a second human race with [BABYSNATCHER] instead of [SIEGER] for barbarian raiding action. When they sieged, every last one of them was riding a horse. When I approached the buggers kept running away and going all Parthian shot on me, too. It was pretty bad ass. -[[User:EarthquakeDamage|EarthquakeDamage]] 02:23, 10 November 2007 (EST)

40d Talk:Creatures

2007-11-11T21:47:11Z

Runspotrun: New page: ===Here kitty!=== What are the triggers for semi- and megabeasts? Is there any way to encourage them? ~~~~

===Here kitty!===
What are the triggers for semi- and megabeasts? Is there any way to encourage them? [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 16:47, 11 November 2007 (EST)

40d Talk:Brook

2007-11-11T21:31:24Z

Runspotrun: New page: ===Fishable?=== Might be worth mentioning if brooks are normal water with respect to fishability, or whether a channel needs to be dug first. ~~~~

===Fishable?===
Might be worth mentioning if brooks are normal water with respect to fishability, or whether a channel needs to be dug first. [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 16:31, 11 November 2007 (EST)

User talk:Rick

2007-11-11T02:01:18Z

Runspotrun: /* Requests */