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40d Talk:Weapon

2008-02-13T09:13:44Z

Patarak:

Are the bows and blowguns melee or ranged? -- [[User:Bovinepro|Bovinepro]]
:Both. When they run out of ammo the dwarves will beat their enemies to death with their bows. The listed damage is for when that happens. --[[User:Ikkonoishi|Ikkonoishi]] 17:15, 4 November 2007 (EST)

What about damage done by artifact weapons? Is it x2 like masterwork items?
:The exact damage bonus granted by artifact weapons is unknown, though it's quite likely much higher than a masterwork, if the value is any indicator. It's difficult to determine the exact bonus, as it's not in the raws, Toady hasn't told us, and it's very difficult to gauge exactly how much damage a weapon is dealing due to how little is known about the combat calculations in general. --[[User:Hesitris|Hesitris]] 07:31, 18 November 2007 (EST)

== Conflicting Info? ==

Earlier on, we say that dwarves can't wield bows because they are too big. Down in the tables, the bow is listed as two handed and not unwieldable. Need to correct one or the other (I'm too lazy to verify that in the current version bows are still unwieldable.) --[[User:TheUbie|TheUbie]] 06:20, 28 November 2007 (EST)
:Well, a bow is two handed and unwieldable to dwarves, do you mean in adventure mode with humans/elves? I think most of this data is fortress mode specific. --Gotthard 18:15, 28 November 2007 (EST)
::I didn't write the article, so I don't know it's original intention, however there are other weapons that can be wielded 2 handed by humans and others in adventure mode, but are listed as unweildable by dwarves. Need to choose to make the table fortress specific, adventure mode specific, or add another col and make it specific to both. As it stands now, it doesn't make sense. --[[User:TheUbie|TheUbie]] 18:54, 29 November 2007 (EST)
:I'm almost certain this is dwarf specific, because I had some goblin axemen siege my base, and one of them was wielding a great axe in one hand, and a shield (not even a *buckler*) in the other hand. I think I saw the same thing with a halberd, but a pike was multigrasped. Looks like goblins have a lot more options than our poor dwarves. --Gotthard 12:16, 30 November 2007 (EST)

==Pike==

I been able to wield a bronze pike with an adventurer in 23a and it was quite deadly. This need to be verified. Maybe there is a strength requirement? --[[User:Eagle of Fire|Eagle of Fire]] 14:43, 28 November 2007 (EST)

==Whips and scourges==
So, I'm guessing that you can't assign dwarves to use whips and scourges unless you've traded for one, right? And on the article for [[Scourge]] it says it's deadlier than a whip (which currently has no page)... Does that mean scourges are better in every way? What's worse? --[[User:Penguinofhonor|Penguinofhonor]] 21:03, 1 December 2007 (EST)

Did you actually read the tables? It does 10 more damage, and is the same in everything else. Dwarves can't become lashers. There are no lasher option in the military settings... --[[User:Nitem4re|Nitem4re]] 14:13, 4 December 2007 (EST)

==Unorthodox Weapons==

Is there any information on unorthodox weapons such as coins and loincloths? For instance, are the material and crafting value taken into account, and what is the base damage of the item? [[User:Patarak|Patarak]] 04:13, 13 February 2008 (EST)

40d Talk:Weapon

2008-02-13T09:13:31Z

Patarak:

40d:Weapon

2008-02-13T03:40:55Z

Patarak: DAMAGE DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY! GOOD NIGHT!

Weapons are items that increase the damage dealt by creatures in combat. In fortress mode, after accessing the military screen with {{K|m}}, pressing {{K|w}} gives a list of which weapons you desire your dwarves to use. Regardless of your choice here, civilians will not wield weapons until drafted with the exception of [[wood cutter]]s who use a battle axe to fell trees down. Although it is considered a tool and not a weapon, miners will also hit harder with their pick much the same way than a [[marksdwarf]] use his [[crossbow]] to deal melee damage when his supply of [[bolt]]s run out.

Weapons have different properties that affect the way they deal damage. Blunt weapons like hammers and maces tend to deal large amounts of damage to external body parts, and never get stuck in targets. Slashing or cutting weapons such as axes or swords have a tendency to sever limbs on good hits, but sometimes get stuck in their victims. Piercing weapons such as spears or crossbow bolts have a high chance to deal damage to internal organs, possibly resulting in instant kills, but have the highest chance to get stuck in victims. Weapons that get stuck in their victims cannot be reused until pulled free, which can leave the attacker vulnerable. While stuck, the weapon can be twisted in the wound, possibly causing the victim to pass out from pain.

Some weapons cannot be used by dwarves in Fortress mode, such as bows. However, in Adventure mode, all weapons are usable; an adventurer can become a bowdwarf, or use a human great axe in one hand despite the fact that he is smaller than the minimum size required to use the axe at all, with both hands or one. It is not clear if there are any penalties associated with using oversized weapons

Dwarves can also create weapons themselves. Wooden and bone crossbow bolts can be created at the [[craftsdwarf's workshop]]. Higher quality bolts and melee weapons can be created at a [[metalsmith's forge]]. Dwarves can only create weapons they themselves can wield, with the occasional exception of [[legendary artifact|artifact]]s.

Most weapons can be made of iron, silver, copper, bronze, steel, bismuth bronze, or adamantine. A handful of weapons can be made of other materials such as wood or obsidian. The material of crossbows does not affect the damage of fired bolts, although it does affect the damage of the crossbow when it is used as a bludgeon (i.e., when all bolts have been expended).

There are a few enormous weapons that no race can wield, these are only usable when mounted into weapon [[trap]]s. These are the menacing [[spike]], the [[large, serrated disc]], the [[spiked ball]], [[enormous corkscrew]], and the [[giant axe blade]].

In most cases, dwarves will go to pick up an assigned weapon upon being drafted. However, there are a few special cases. A woodcutter uses a battle axe even as a civilian, so if a woodcutter is assigned to use an axe as a weapon he or she will not need to prepare (except to wear any assigned armor). A hunter usually carries a crossbow, bolts and even light armor, all of which can carry over to the military if the settings are appropriate. And miners carry their picks at all times; picks make mediocre weapons, but they use the civilian "mining" skill in combat, so miners don't have to train as soldiers to be effective fighters.

Picks will only be used as weapons by miners who are not instructed to wield any other weapon (in other words, the dwarves must be set to "unarmed" and drafted while carrying a pick).

Weapons have varying amounts of damage and type, according to raw/objects/weapons.txt.{{version|0.27.169.33a}}

High "Crit. Boost" is a better chance of causing internal injuries, rather than simply wounding body parts. This is useful against big, hard-to-damage enemies -- things like spears will tend to damage their organs, which is usually a faster way to take them out.

==Weapon Stats==
These have been taken from /raw/objects/item_weapon.txt:
{|cellpadding="2" border="1"
! Name !! Damage !! Damage Type !! Skill Used !! Crit. Boost
|-
| [[Battle axe]] || 110 || Slash || Axe || None
|-
| [[Blowgun]]&dagger; (melee) || 20 || Bludgeon || Sword || None
|-
| [[Bow]]&dagger; (melee) || 40 || Bludgeon || Sword || None
|-
| [[Crossbow]]&dagger; (melee) || 70 || Bludgeon || Hammer || None
|-
| [[Dagger]] || 70 || Slash || Dagger || 1
|-
| [[Flail]] || 130 || Bludgeon || Mace || None
|-
| [[Great axe]]&Dagger; || 150 || Slash || Axe || None
|-
| [[Halberd]]&Dagger; || 140 || Slash || Axe || None
|-
| [[Long sword]]&dagger; || 120 || Slash || Sword || 1
|-
| [[Mace]] || 120 || Bludgeon || Mace || None
|-
| [[Maul]]&Dagger; || 160 || Bludgeon || Hammer || None
|-
| [[Morningstar]] || 120 || Bludgeon || Mace || None
|-
| [[Pick]] || 70 || Pierce || Mining || 2
|-
| [[Pike (Weapon)|Pike]]&Dagger;{{verify}} || 120 || Pierce || Pike || 2
|-
| [[Scimitar]] || 100 || Slash || Sword || 1
|-
| [[Scourge]] || 30 || Gore || Whip || None
|-
| [[Short sword]] || 100 || Slash || Sword || 1
|-
| [[Spear]] || 100 || Pierce || Spear || 2
|-
| [[Two handed sword]]&Dagger; || 140 || Slash || Sword || 1
|-
| [[War hammer]] || 120 || Bludgeon || Hammer || None
|-
| [[Whip]] || 20 || Gore || Whip || None
|-
| colspan=5 | &dagger; ''Dwarves wield weapon two-handed'' &Dagger; ''Dwarves cannot wield weapon (too large)''
|-
|}

==Ammunition Stats==
These have been taken from /raw/objects/item_ammo.txt:
{|cellpadding="2" border="1"
! Name !! Damage !! Damage Type
|-
| [[Arrow]] || 100 || Pierce
|-
| [[Blowdart]] || 10 || Pierce
|-
| [[Bolt]] || 100 || Pierce
|}

==Trap weapon statistics==
These have been taken from raw/objects/item_trapcomp.txt:
{|cellpadding="2" border="1"
! Name !! Damage !! Damage type !! Number of hits !! Critical boost !! Wood?
|-
| [[Giant axe blade]] || 220 || Slash || 1 || None || No
|-
| [[Enormous corkscrew]]&dagger; || 150 || Pierce || 1 || 2 || Yes
|-
| [[Spiked ball]] || 100 || Pierce || 3 || 1 || Yes
|-
| [[Large, serrated disc]] || 120 || Slash || 3 || None || No
|-
| [[Menacing spike]]&Dagger; || 150 || Pierce || 1 || 2 || Yes
|-
| colspan=6 | &dagger; ''This trap component is a screw and can also be used in [[screw pump]]s.'' &Dagger; ''This trap component is a spike and can also be used in upright spike traps.''
|-
|}

All trap component weapons can be made out of [[metal]], as well as [[glass]], oddly enough. Some can also be made out of [[wood]], as noted in the table. This can be useful in getting some heavy weapons traps set up before you have a steady [[smelter|smelting]] operation going. Remember though that weapons made of wood suffer a penalty to damage.

==Material Damage Effects==
Actual weapon damage depends partially on the material from which the weapon was forged. An iron battle axe does 110 damage for example, while a steel axe does 146 damage etc.

{|cellpadding="2" border="1"
! Material !! Damage %
|-
| [[Adamantine]] || 500
|-
| [[Steel]] and &dagger;[[Obsidian]] || 133
|-
| [[Iron]] || 100
|-
| [[Bronze]] and [[Bismuth bronze]] || 75
|-
| [[Copper]] || 66
|-
| &dagger;All other materials ([[wood]], [[silver]], etc.) || 50
|-
| colspan=2 | &dagger; ''This value could not be verified from the raws. It is believed to still be accurate but use at your own risk.''
|-
|}

== Item quality ==

{{old|0.23.130.23a}}

[[Toady]] has [http://www.bay12games.com/cgi-local/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=12&t=000013 stated] that [[quality]] increases its protection (or damage, in the case of weapons), namely, "Quality has a huge effect on damage and damage reduction... Exceptional is almost double damage/damage block."

* Item Name : Basic crafted weapon - x1.0 damage
* -Item Name- : Well-Crafted weapon - x1.2 damage
* +Item Name+ : Finely Crafted weapon - x1.4 damage
* *Item Name* : Superior Quality weapon - x1.6 damage
* ≡Item Name≡ : Exceptional weapon - x1.8 damage
* ☼Item Name☼ : Masterful weapon - x2.0 damage

[[Category:Fortress Defense]]
[[Category:Items]]
[[Category:Military]]
[[Category:Traps]]
[[Category:Weapons]]

40d Talk:Adventurer mode

2008-02-12T07:59:08Z

Patarak:

How -do- you capture flies, anyway? --[[User:Alfador|Alfador]] 19:13, 5 November 2007 (EST)

How do I jump off cliffs in adventure mode? --[[User:Keizo|Keizo]]

The [http://www.bay12games.com/cgi-local/ultimatebb.cgi forums] would probably be a better place to ask questions like these, though the movement thing would probably go well in this article. To 'catch' flies, simply be on the same tile as a swarm of them, and {{key|g}}et one as if it were an item on the ground. To jump off cliffs or other such features, hold Alt while moving, and it'll give you a choice of where you want to go in that direction. --[[User:Hesitris|Hesitris]] 06:54, 16 November 2007 (EST)

The best way to get live animals is to "L"ook/search in the square, which will dig up a multitude of small bugs. Store them in your backpack and go to town with "Spinning Live Cockroach Hits The Cougar In The Head! Its Brain Is Broken!"-ness. --[[User:DuckofDoom|DuckofDoom]] 20:19, 2 December 2007 (EST)

It mentions that you start out in the Mayor's House in a human town. Isn't that technically like the Town Hall or City Tavern, not the mayor's house. --[[User:Wahnsinniger|Wahnsinniger]] 20:57, 3 December 2007 (EST)

Erm, pressing P doesn't equip items. Instead it tries to put them in containers.[[User:Patarak|Patarak]] 02:59, 12 February 2008 (EST)

2008-01-25T21:13:19Z

Patarak:

How do you put more than one animal in a cage? [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 11:41, 9 November 2007 (EST)

:Once you hit (A)ssign, you should have a list of all tame animals in your fort. From here you can toggle whether or not a given animal is assigned to that cage by hitting Enter. You can do this for a number of creatures at once. Creatures already assigned to a cage or chain will have [A] out to the right of their listing. IIRC, there is a limit on the number of critters in a cage, but it's pretty high. One nice benefit is that if you put a male and female of the same species in a cage together, they can still breed.--[[User:RedKing|RedKing]] 12:25, 9 November 2007 (EST)

::Um...
::(A)ssign? Uh, I don't see that. (a) is announcements, and (A) does nothing. I can see a list of animals with both (u) and (z)->Animals, but they only let me assign to owners, slaughter, etc. Do I need a specific noble? [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 12:41, 9 November 2007 (EST)
::Ah, hold on. I appear to have only caught untamable creatures (yay... I guess). Does (A)ssign only work if I have caged, tame creatures? [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 12:45, 9 November 2007 (EST)

:::Cage options menu, I think {{k|q}} or {{k|t}}. --[[User:Savok|Savok]] 12:48, 9 November 2007 (EST)
::::Wow, I'm being really awkward here. Sorry. {{k|q}} and {{k|t}} both give me options about the animal stockpile the cages are sitting on, or the ground below that. [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 12:55, 9 November 2007 (EST)
:::::Ahh, now I see the problem. You have to {{k|b}}uild the cage first, which moves it from the stockpile to whatever location you specify, then you can assign animals to it. Animal stockpiles just serve as collection points for your trappers to dump off their catch, or for new animals bought from caravans.--[[User:RedKing|RedKing]] 13:19, 9 November 2007 (EST)
::::::AHA! I see it now. Thanks for your help! [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 13:37, 9 November 2007 (EST)

== Possible addition ==

Maybe worth adding to the article : How do you empty cages of bones and seeds? What's the best way to get rid an untameable creature in a cage? [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 21:15, 13 November 2007 (EST)
Answer to both questions is lava. [[User:Rkyeun|Rkyeun]] 17:21, 23 December 2007 (EST)
:Alternatively, if you're just trying to get them out, melting the cage will work as well. (assuming metal of course)

== Captured thieves ==
So, if you manage to catch a thief or a snatcher in a cage trap '''after''' he has already managed to steal something/one, is there any way to get it off him, without releasing and killing him in process?--[[User:Dorten|Dorten]] 23:35, 13 January 2008 (EST)

:There might conceivably be some way to make him go [[melancholy]], at which point he might ditch all his items. I wouldn't know how to induce it, though.--[[User:Maximus|Maximus]] 04:43, 14 January 2008 (EST)

Found this at forum: You can find the items, carried by caged goblins/kobolds/whatever in the stocks menu and designate them for dumping, then dwarves will strip the prisoner. Cant check now. Anyone, confirm?--[[User:Dorten|Dorten]] 07:06, 15 January 2008 (EST)

Yep, this works. Got a human macelord in cage, found (*steel morningstar*) at stock menu, {{K|z}}oomed to it - it pointed on macelord's cage so, it's his morningstar, {{K|d}}umped it, and voila: a dwarf comes to cage and gets morningstar out. The only thing unclear - how do you free a child from a bag?--[[User:Dorten|Dorten]] 02:39, 16 January 2008 (EST)
:Magma works well I hear. [[User:Jikor|Jikor]]

== Dissapearing metal cages ==

I keep trying to make metal cages for a prison, but each time it gets completed the smith stands around a while and then it just dissapears. He doesn't even put it on a stockpile. Can anyone tell me what's happening?

40d Talk:Captured creatures

2008-01-25T20:59:58Z

Patarak: /* STOP HIM!!! */

40d Talk:Captured creatures

2008-01-25T19:11:56Z

2008-01-24T10:20:49Z

Patarak: New page: == Disappearing Ecrusted Goods == Would anyone know why the objects that I encrust with jems don't seem to turn up anywhere? The encruster just stands around with it for a while and then ...

40d Talk:Trap

2008-01-24T02:41:31Z

Patarak:

Couldn't one generate a mild supplementary food source by putting cage traps out on the map at random? Or create rows of them to catch aggressive creatures that are chasing down a fleeing dwarf. The ability to place them on the surface has some interesting possibilities. [[User:Kefkakrazy|Kefkakrazy]] 04:45, 4 November 2007 (EST)

: You can really do this with any kind of trap now - I built a 1 tile wide stair/corridor up an exposed cliff face, and as I was concerned about goblins and the like I stonefall-trapped it. Ever since then some of the local wildlife has used it to get up and down the 5 z-level cliff, with predictable and hilarious results. The goats just die, but the marmots are hurled off the cliff face to splatter on the ground below. It's a nice easy meat/leather/fat source, as well as being entertaining "Dwarfy McDwarf cancels reload stone trap - interrupted by (flying) hoary marmot" [[User:Acama|Acama]] 19:48, 20 December 2007 (EST)

Will berserk dwarves set off pressure plates? Toady mentioned he was going to stop that from happening [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 19:39, 4 November 2007 (EST)

Does triggering an upright spike with a lever make it retract? I am testing this now.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Jayjayjuhwetplane|Jayjayjuhwetplane]] ([[User talk:Jayjayjuhwetplane|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/Jayjayjuhwetplane|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}

Will flooding a spiked pit break or cancel the spike trap? I'd test this, but I don't have the channel dug in yet. --[[User:Xazak|Xazak]] 18:30, 5 November 2007 (EST)
:confirmed that flooding doesn't affect spear/spike traps. [[User:YayTheDwarves|YayTheDwarves]] 17:52, 6 January 2008 (EST)

I'm pretty sure the "corpse stuck in trap" chance is 50%, according to Toady either on IRC or some forgotten forum post a few months back. I really can't remember for sure. -[[User:EarthquakeDamage|EarthquakeDamage]] 02:31, 10 November 2007 (EST)

RE Upright Spikes: They're are only effective if something falls on them, right? They don't slow and certainly don't hurt anything just walking through them? -[[User:EarthquakeDamage|EarthquakeDamage]] 02:35, 10 November 2007 (EST)

editing info on pike trap according to info on this[http://www.bay12games.com/cgi-local/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=7&t=001777] topic
'' —Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Thatguyyaknow|Thatguyyaknow]] ([[User talk:Thatguyyaknow|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/Thatguyyaknow|contribs]]) ''

I've secured the entries oy my magma furnaces with cage traps, but it seems that the fire imps just walk through.
Just as the Giant moles did. How so? --[[User:Doub|Doub]]
:supposedly there is a bug that causes any creatures on the map when it is generated to count as residents, and thus know where your traps are and not trigger them. I've never run into the problem myself, but I've never specifically tested for it so I can't really say for sure if it still exists (or ever did). --[[User:BurnedToast|BurnedToast]] 07:41, 6 January 2008 (EST)
:I had read about this and tried it out with a trapped coridoor next to my magma vent - an imp I tempted out walked right through 4 cage traps and 4 stonefall traps without triggering them. Seems like indigenous life is currently trap-immune. Most magma creatures can be dealt with by a few marksdwarves though, so you're only in serious trouble if you have a herd of skeletal hippos on your map on embark.--[[User:TangoThree|TangoThree]] 15:42, 19 January 2008 (EST)

I'm planning on making the only passage to my fortress filled with cage traps, but I'm not sure if dwarves going out and migrants and traders coming in will be affected by them. Does anyone know? Also, do trolls smash goblin cages? [[User:Patarak|Patarak]] 21:41, 23 January 2008 (EST)

40d Talk:Trap

2008-01-24T02:40:20Z

Patarak:

2008-01-21T05:18:29Z

Patarak:

In fortress mode, some migrant dwarves are married and may have children on occasion. This generally does not happen very often.

Your dwarves may also give birth to children to, but how to get your dwarves to have children is unknown.
Some fortresses seem to have a higher fertility rate then others do.

Children may not be assigned any labors, but can still perform some tasks:

* harvesting crops, if the 'All dwarves harvest' option is on;
* remove constructions (such as walls, floors, ramps);
* pull levers;
* haul items to the trade depot;
* eat, drink, and sleep as necessary.

Children may not be assigned to any administrator positions.

Children may enter a [[strange mood]]. When the child becomes an adult, the child will gain legendary skill in wood carving, bone carving or stone crafting, depending on the artifact made.

Children will grow into adults after twelve years. They then become unskilled peasants, unless they successfully completed a strange mood other than possession, or received experience points towards [[grower]] by harvesting plants (in which case they could already be a grand master grower). Children who immigrate to your fortress might be any age from 2 to 12, and there is no way to determine the age of a child.

Children are also the target of [[goblin|goblin snatchers]], who will sneak into your fortress and try to kidnap the young dwarf in a sack.

As an oversight in programming, children's parents can become so preoccupied with finding their children that they can die of thirst.. This is aimed to be fixed at a later update.