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v0.31 Talk:Bedroom design

2010-04-08T03:19:48Z

Otherdwarf:

==Barracks vs. Dormitory==
Is this ''barracks'' thing still correct? I noticed the option "dormitory", which is different. As my dwarves now sleep where they want (in other dwarves' rooms, in the hospital; on unassigned beds) I could not confirm if a barracks or a dormiory is the new place to sleep or if it means anything at all. [[User:Matakuka|Matakuka]] 22:27, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
:It should be Dormitory instead of Barracks, thank you for catching my error. Fixing now [[User:Otherdwarf|Otherdwarf]]

v0.31:Bedroom design

2010-04-08T03:18:29Z

Otherdwarf: removed outdated information

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There are many ways to design the layout of [[DF2010:bedroom|bedroom]]s. Simplicity, ease of designating, efficiency, and aesthetics are all important factors in designing dwarven housing. The ability to modify the design to enlarge, improve, or add rooms can be important as well. Proximity of the rooms to [[DF2010:noise|noise]] should also be considered.

The simplest approach resolving dwarven sleeping requirements is to have all your dwarves sleep in a large communal [[DF2010:dormitory|dormitory]]. The smallest ''bedroom design'' possible is a corridor with with notched spaces for beds.

Players frequently want designs which maximize positive thought and minimize the path distance between a dwarf's food, drink, job and home. This process is further complicated when the [[DF2010:dwarven economy|dwarven economy]] kicks in, and a wide range of "[[DF2010:Room#Specific_room_quality_grades|room qualities]]" are needed, and low-budget dwarves are kicked out of any over-priced quarters. To this end, a number of solutions, some surprisingly elegant, have been produced.

Many of the designs shown here were taken from [http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=16901.0 this forum post].

=Minimalism=

Sometimes, simpler is better... not always, but sometimes...

=== 1x1 bed only, no walls ===

By far the most minimal design is to take a bed, place it anywhere you want, then set it as a 1x1 room. This bed 'room' can be assigned to a dwarf early on, or rented once the economy kicks in, and will at least serve the bare minimum purpose of avoiding unhappy thoughts from the lack of a room. It will not, of course, leave the dwarves with any space to store any possessions at all -- but with the economy active, it will also have an absolute minimal rent, which makes it worth having a few such rooms set up. And, of course, it requires the absolute minimum work to set up; all you need is existing empty space, preferably with no noise nearby, and a bed to place in it.

An additional refinement is to expand the room area of each bed to 3x3, deliberately causing them to overlap. This lowers the value of each bed, which in turn lowers the rent and provides some low-rent housing for impoverished dwarves to stay -- it can drop as low as 7 coins depending on the arrangement.

=== Communal dormitory ===

The simplest form of dwarven housing. Stick a bunch of beds in a room, designate a [[DF2010:dormitory|dormitory]] from one of them (do not assign the bed to anyone), and, voila, instant flophouse. On maps with no [[DF2010:tree|tree]]s, this is pretty much your only option for sleeping quarters before breaching a cavern or importing large amounts of wood. (Dwarves will sleep on the floor of the dormitor if no beds are available, which at least keeps them from sleeping in the wilderness.)

This setup only causes a single negative thought ("slept without a proper room recently"), although you miss out the benefit of the happy thoughts generated by personally-owned furniture. However, as long as you compensate by offering your dwarves high-quality [[DF2010:food|food]], [[DF2010:alcohol|alcohol]], an expansive [[DF2010:dining room|dining room]], and other luxuries, your dwarves will remain happy enough to be productive throughout the life of a fortress. (You may still wish to give [[DF2010:noble|noble]]s their own rooms, however; they tend to get upset when their [[DF2010:Noble#Room_Requirements_Summary|requirements]] are not met.)

More than one dormitory can be built in a fortress; if they do not own their own bedroom, dwarves will gravitate to the nearest empty bed when it is time for them to sleep.{{verify}}

=== Plain square design ===
[[Image:square_bedroom.png|right]]
If it is 2×2, 3×3 or more, square designs are probably the first choice of many players. Easy to plan, easy to put in place, this kind of design is one of the best when the player values his playing time instead of the overall layout of his fortress. While square designs are easy to reproduce en masse, most are not optimized either for beauty or space efficiency, two aspects that other designs excel at.

=== Line design ===
[[Image:line_bedroom.png|right|thumb| '''Line design''', laid out (left) and finished (right)]]
Line designs have the advantage of being very space efficient and very adaptative. From 1×1 to 1×4 and longer, it can fit almost anywhere, can be upgraded later on as long as you have the space behind your first original line and do not need excessive corridor space for the bedroom access. Simply dig a few lines out of an access tunnel already in use in your fortress and voila, you have new living quarters. This kind of minimalistic design is perfect for when the economy kicks in, as it can be adapted in a flash for any kind of low wage citizen.

===Decentralized living===
In larger fortresses, one of the bigger problems is traffic. Dwarves have a tendency to all get hungry, thirsty, and tired in waves, and a crowd of 50 of them storming your centralized food stockpiles, one big dining room, and dormitory tunnels can cause a lot of lost time while the hordes shuffle by each other. A good solution to this is decentralized architecture, incorporating most of the essentials of every day life into numerous smaller areas. This isn't to suggest that you shouldn't have a legendary dining hall set as a meeting area, capable of holding half your fortress at once. You definitely should! But decentralizing from that dining hall relieves a lot of congestion in the halls surrounding the main dining hall, and makes it easier for dwarves just to pass through.

[[image:Living.GIF|right]]
In this image, the access stairwell (blue fields in the center), spread out in all directions to a public dormitory and dining room for poorer dwarves on the left and right to 3x3 private rooms to the top and bottom. The design allows for two small stockpiles of food (gray fields) to minimize the walk to a dining hall.

There's also built-in areas for impressive things like statues and cages (for zoos) to keep dwarves admiring your handiwork. The 3x3 rooms are easy to get up to Decent or higher to keep your most useful dwarves happy as clams. They're also conveinent for impromptu noble housing, since you can just knock out a wall between two rooms and convert one into a dining room for a whiny noble. You could even expand the corner rooms a bit more on both the X and Y axes to make four 3x3 rooms to give the noble a dining room, tomb, and office all in one area. This is especially useful for the mayor, who gets replaced every so often. When a new Mayor is elected, one can reassign all the trappings to the new mayor in one go. If you want an even more decentralized and calm traffic pattern, put tables and chairs in all the private rooms; dwarves will prefer to eat in their quarters. The walls between the doors leading to the dormitory and Dining Room allow for 2 entrances and 2 exits to each predictably higher-traffic room while leaving a pillar of rock for an engraving. The main corridor also allows you to branch off into 4 restraints per floor in a private 1x2 prison. Since it's flanked by an animal cage and a statue (or, alternatively, 2 statues. This may be better because Statues block movement and is effectively the same as surrounding the prisoner with walls) and in an area you want smoothed and engraved to begin with, it gives prisoners a leg upon their happiness immediately and -- once again -- prevents traffic jams from convicts being brought food and water in larger prisons.

Another option for maximizing traffic throughput is to put a 1x3 line of upward stairwells on one end of the blue field, and a 1x3 line of downward stairwells on the other. This simulates a 3-wide vertical corridor without the safety risks of up/down stairwells.

You may also, at your discretion, knock out the statues and cages near the stairwell to make the entire plan a little more compact (though you lose the easy prisons in this case). This plan can stretch on the x axis as much as you like, but note that the 1 wide corridors leading to individual rooms can get crowded if more than 10 dwarves are living along each one. Even with the given layout, though, one floor supports 26 private rooms and as many as 14 public beds. This works out quite nicely since one floor is enough to handle most immigrant waves, while existing floors' public beds can handle a decent amount of overflow. The public dormitory rooms can also be converted into prisons very easily (just put chains next to every bed) if you decide not to go with the main design.

=== High density single floor housing ===

[[Image:Housing_by_Marble_Dice.png|thumb|244px|This is the 61x61 housing plan]]

This fractal-inspired design combines space efficiency with wider access hallways to alleviate traffic. Stairs are placed in the middle, and the design can expand indefinitely. To decrease the size, remove the outermost perimeter hallway, and all connected bedrooms. To increase the size, use the picture as a guide and follow the same radial pattern.

{| class="wikitable" style="padding:"
|-
! style="text-align:left;" | Size
! style="text-align:left;" | Capacity
! style="text-align:left;" | Max walk distance from center
|-
| style="padding-right:26px;" | 29x29 tiles
| style="padding-right:26px;" | 48 dwarves
| style="padding-right:26px;" | 23 steps
|-
| style="padding-right:26px;" | 45x45 tiles
| style="padding-right:26px;" | 120 dwarves
| style="padding-right:26px;" | 39 steps
|-
| style="padding-right:26px;" | 61x61 tiles
| style="padding-right:26px;" | 224 dwarves
| style="padding-right:26px;" | 55 steps
|-
| style="padding-right:26px;" | 77x77 tiles
| style="padding-right:26px;" | 360 dwarves
| style="padding-right:26px;" | 71 steps
|}

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=High density, multi-level=

Optimizing space, minimizing walking distance, these are good things... for some...

===Magical Three-way Doors===

The main point of this design is that it squeezes six bedrooms in a space of six by seven squares. It's meant to be built across several Z-levels, making it take up a minimal amount of practical space. It can be easily mirrored, although that requires a wider corridor (or the use of four bedrooms instead of six on the other side).

{{diagram|spaces=yes|\
Level -1 ¦ Level 0 ¦ Level 1
+-----+ ¦ +-----+ ¦ +-----+
¦..¦..¦ ¦ ¦..¦..¦ ¦ ¦..¦..¦
+-+.¦.+-+ ¦ +-+.¦.+-+ ¦ +-+.¦.+-+
¦.++-++.¦ ¦ ¦.++-++.¦ ¦ ¦.++-++.¦
¦..¦X¦..¦ ¦ ¦..¦X¦..¦ ¦ ¦..¦X¦..¦
¦---+---¦ ¦ ---+.+--- ¦ ¦---+---¦
¦...¦...¦ ¦ ......... ¦ ¦...¦...¦
+-------+ ¦ ¦ +-------+}}

===Sandwich===

A design to move bedrooms vertically spread across many unused Z levels easily. The rooms can be preferentially scaled up or down depending on needs. If space is reserved serves well for expansion of each bedroom as suitable.

The sandwich basically consists of a three tile wide hallway or wider. Up/Down Stairways are evenly distributed in increments which lead to one or more bedrooms as needed. Hatches can be used between the individual bedrooms as vertical doors.

{{diagram|spaces=yes|\
Level -1 ¦ Level 0 ¦ Level 1
+-----------+ ¦ ¦ +-----------+
¦B.¦B.¦B.¦B.¦ ¦ ¦ ¦B.¦B.¦B.¦B.¦
¦..¦..¦..¦..¦ ¦ ------------- ¦ ¦..¦..¦..¦..¦
¦X.¦X.¦X.¦X.¦ ¦ .X..X..X..X.. ¦ ¦X.¦X.¦X.¦X.¦
¦--+--+--+--¦ ¦ ............. ¦ ¦--+--+--+--¦
¦X.¦X.¦X.¦X.¦ ¦ .X..X..X..X.. ¦ ¦X.¦X.¦X.¦X.¦
¦..¦..¦..¦..¦ ¦ ------------- ¦ ¦..¦..¦..¦..¦
¦B.¦B.¦B.¦B.¦ ¦ ¦ ¦B.¦B.¦B.¦B.¦
+-----------+ ¦ ¦ +-----------+}}

The bedroom design can be copied several times further up and down starting from Level 1 or -1 to exploit available space in neighbouring Z levels. The design is excellent as the space surrounding the hallway can be used for directly tying to the dining/meeting hall.

===6-room clusters===

[[File:ClusterBedrooms.png|thumb|350 pix|'''6-room clusters''' ''(click to enlarge)'']]
This one is quite dense. There are six bedroom clusters. They can be built close to each other.

There are 7 6-room clusters here. If 5 Z-Levels of this is built, that's 5*7*6=210, which is plenty for most any fortress.

=== Living Pods (Residential Flats) ===

This design is compact and allows for a large number of rooms. Each room has 3 tiles plus a door. To add to the complex build an apartment level one level above or below the lobby - the stairs allow direct access. The design can be stretched to make the rooms 3x2 or 3x3, or to allow more rooms per floor, depending on your preference. Though not as visually impressive as the fractal patterns it is very efficient in that it can allow for large numbers of dwarves to easily access the main hallway. The pods are very quick to deploy as the interior (mined out) width of the pods exactly equals one {{k|Shift}}+move of the cursor. Highlight a full squar with a horizontal shift+move then a vertical. Then ''un''mark the 3 internal walls in both horizontal and vertical directions (each also 1 shift+move distance long), and finally mark in the four staircases. Sixteen bedrooms with extremely efficient pathing laid out in as many seconds.
{{diagram|spaces=yes|\
Upper/lower Apartment Level: Lobby Level:
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¦-¦X¦-+-¦X¦-¦ ¦-¦X+---+X+-+.. t
¦.+-+.¦.+-+.¦ ¦.++..O........ e
¦..¦..¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦........... r
¦--+--+--+--¦ ¦--¦O...O+--+..
¦..¦..¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦.....¦..¦.. H
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¦-¦X¦-+-¦X¦-¦ ¦-¦X+---+X¦-¦.. l
¦.+-+.¦.+-+.¦ ¦.+-+.¦.+-+.¦.. l
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+-----------+ +-----------+..}}

==== Pod variant ====

This is an example of varying the above to suit personal taste. Three significant changes have been made:

:1) 2 pair of vertical access stairs feed upward, instead of one horizontal hallway.

:2) The entire design has been expanded (to 15x15, vs 13x13 above), but rooms have not been expanded to fill all available space - not yet. That will be done if/as need arises, and many of the 3-tile rooms can become 5- or 7-tile<sup>1</sup>, or two joined together to become 12-tile suites<sup>2</sup>.

:3) Allow for a central waterfall with drain system*.

<pre>
Upper Apartment Level(s*): Lobby Level: Lower Apartment Level(s*):
+-----+ +-----+ +-----+ +-----+ +-----+ +-----+
¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦..¦
¦.+-+.¦ ¦.+-+.¦ ¦.+-+.¦ ¦.+-+.¦ ¦.+-+.¦ ¦.+-+.¦
¦-¦X¦-¦ ¦-¦X¦-¦ ¦-¦X¦-----¦X¦-¦ ¦-¦X¦-----¦X¦-¦
¦.+¦+.¦ ¦.+-+.¦ ¦.+¦+.OOO.+-+.¦ ¦.+¦+..¦..+-+.¦
¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦.......¦..¦ ¦..¦.+---+.¦..¦
+--+-------+--+ +--¦..###..¦--+ +--¦.¦~~~¦.¦--+
¦XX#~#XX¦ ¦<<#~#<<¦ ¦-¦~¦~¦-¦
+--+-------+--+ +--¦..###..¦--+ +--¦.¦~~~¦.¦--+
¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦.......¦..¦ ¦..¦.+---+.¦..¦
¦.+-+.¦ ¦.+-+.¦ ¦.+-+.OOO.+-+.¦ ¦.+-+..¦..+-+.¦
¦-¦X¦-¦ ¦-¦X¦-¦ ¦-¦X¦-----¦X¦-¦ ¦-¦X¦-----¦X¦-¦
¦.+-+.¦ ¦.+-+.¦ ¦.+-+.¦ ¦.+-+.¦ ¦.+-+.¦ ¦.+-+.¦
¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦..¦
+-----+ +-----+ +-----+ +-----+ +-----+ +-----+</pre>Legend:
:X = up/down stair
:< = up stair
:~ = flowing water, in waterfall and drain
:<nowiki>#</nowiki> = [[DF2010:grate|grate]] or floor [[DF2010:bars|bars]] over drain
:¦ = solid block at base of waterfall
:O = [[DF2010:statue|statue]]s (though a [[DF2010:zoo|zoo]] or booze stockpiles could work as well)

Notes:
:1) Expanding out one more tile can create size 5-11 rooms, or size 19 if two are connected.
:2) A size 15 room is ample for any noble, with the possible exception of a [[DF2010:king|king/queen]].

:<nowiki>*</nowiki> The floor plan for the waterfall/drain system may vary from floor to floor, and by personal taste. Eventually it can be routed off and out one side, and the full interior area of all levels below that reserved for apartments.

''(Note - It's easy to [[DF2010:flood|flood]] an area with a waterfall such as this - be sure you are familiar with the technique before risking an entire dormitory (or the lower parts, at least) on it.)''

=== Greek Cross design===
[[image:VaniverGreek48.png|right|thumb| 48 tile design]]
Minimizing walking distances requires good use of vertical space. This plan is simple, scalable, and only takes up a few floors- 6 if you have 32 per floor, 4 if you have 48. The maximum walking distance should be less than 20 (walking up/down stairs counts as one distance.).[[image:VaniverGreek32.png|center|thumb| 32 tile design]]

=== Shaft design ===

[[Image:Shaft_bedroom_design.gif|thumb|Shaft bedroom design with a few possible variations.]]

The Shaft design allows various options for entry direction and central "shaft" use. The central shaft may be altered to create bedrooms, dining rooms and offices for minor nobles, "deluxe" bedrooms, hospital beds, or simply more bedrooms. The design can easily accommodate several different room sizes while maintaining efficiency. However, the design utilizes Z-levels for efficiency, and you must build several levels of Shaft designs to accommodate a fully grown fortress.

The Shaft design can fit 20 2x2 rooms, or 30 1x1 rooms.

=== Tileable shaft design ===

The tileable shaft design is a further expansion of the general shaft design above, coming in somewhere between the simple geometric designs and the vastly more complex fractal designs. These are designs that can be symetrically tiled, that means concatenated in all six directions and are thus suited both for manual design as well as macro-automation. They allow the user to extend the same pattern over very large areas and to easily extend the available space per room up to a given size by tearing down just a few walls. Additionally, they can be suited for bedrooms as well as work and storage.[[Image:tileable_shaft_big.png|thumb|Tileable shaft design with a few possible variations.]]

The downsides are that they're not especially optimized for walking distance or large hallways, and the necessity of the main access shaft on the z-level (stairs) having to be in the centralmost tile (marked red in the examples) to allow z-level stacking.

=Repeating patterns & fractals=

Art for art's sake... and if it's functional, so much the better...

=== Tessellated Apartments ===

[[File:Tessellatedrooms.jpg]]

Access can be from above and/or below by the stairs, or a hallway can be run into the dining room level by removing the bedroom at one of the cardinal points. This design can be repeated as far as desired in the X, Y, and Z directions.

===Noble Hive Pods===

A geometric pattern for Noble housing trying for interesting aesthetics and high mobility. The basic tiling pattern is shown on the left; one possible way to join them, involving surrounding corridors and a central staircase and a jillion doors, on the right.

[[File:Noblehive.png]]

=== Fractal designs ===

Betting on design beauty and on geometrical symmetry first, fractal designs can also be at the same time very space and walk efficient. They however require a lot of time and space both to plan and execute and are most likely out of reach of all but the most serious players. Most players however agree that they are the most incredible of all the designs around, if not for the sheer challenge of successfully executing something as complex, as for the extra touch it gives to the fortress as a whole once it is done.

[[image:Raynard_square_delight1.png]] [[image:Raynard1.png]]

[[image:Raynard_whirlpool_housing.png]]

[[image:Hactar1_3_branch_tree.png]] [[image:Hactar1_Mandelbrot_Tree.png]]

[[Image:SavokisLeaf08a032.png]]

[[image:Andrelius_Windmill_Villas.png]]

[[image:4bh0r53n_h-fractal.jpg]]

More fractal bedroom designs based upon the H-Tree (pictured above) can be found at [[User:Tenebrous|this user page]].

===Fractal modified for 3d===
This was created by palin88 from [http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=17784.msg17413 Bay12Games forum] in order to make a three-dimensional version of Raynard's Fractal Design.

[[File:Palin88_Bedroom_Design.png]]

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v0.31 Talk:Bedroom design

2010-04-07T23:06:38Z

Otherdwarf:

v0.31:Bedroom design

2010-04-07T23:04:38Z

Otherdwarf: Changed all occurances fo barracks into dormitory

{{av}}
There are many ways to design the layout of [[DF2010:bedroom|bedroom]]s. Simplicity, ease of designating, efficiency, and aesthetics are all important factors in designing dwarven housing. The ability to modify the design to enlarge, improve, or add rooms can be important as well. Proximity of the rooms to [[DF2010:noise|noise]] should also be considered.

The simplest approach resolving dwarven sleeping requirements is to have all your dwarves sleep in a large communal [[DF2010:dormitory|dormitory]]. The smallest ''bedroom design'' possible is a corridor with with notched spaces for beds.

Players frequently want designs which maximize positive thought and minimize the path distance between a dwarf's food, drink, job and home. This process is further complicated when the [[DF2010:dwarven economy|dwarven economy]] kicks in, and a wide range of "[[DF2010:Room#Specific_room_quality_grades|room qualities]]" are needed, and low-budget dwarves are kicked out of any over-priced quarters. To this end, a number of solutions, some surprisingly elegant, have been produced.

Many of the designs shown here were taken from [http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=16901.0 this forum post].

=Minimalism=

Sometimes, simpler is better... not always, but sometimes...

=== 1x1 bed only, no walls ===

By far the most minimal design is to take a bed, place it anywhere you want, then set it as a 1x1 room. This bed 'room' can be assigned to a dwarf early on, or rented once the economy kicks in, and will at least serve the bare minimum purpose of avoiding unhappy thoughts from the lack of a room. It will not, of course, leave the dwarves with any space to store any possessions at all -- but with the economy active, it will also have an absolute minimal rent, which makes it worth having a few such rooms set up. And, of course, it requires the absolute minimum work to set up; all you need is existing empty space, preferably with no noise nearby, and a bed to place in it.

An additional refinement is to expand the room area of each bed to 3x3, deliberately causing them to overlap. This lowers the value of each bed, which in turn lowers the rent and provides some low-rent housing for impoverished dwarves to stay -- it can drop as low as 7 coins depending on the arrangement.

=== Communal dormitory ===

The simplest form of dwarven housing. Stick a bunch of beds and a single [[DF2010:weapon rack|weapon rack]] in a room, designate a [[DF2010:dormitory|dormitory]] from the rack (do not assign the rack to anyone), and, voila, instant flophouse. On maps with no [[DF2010:tree|tree]]s, this is pretty much your only option for sleeping quarters. (Dwarves will sleep on the floor of the dormitor if no beds are available, which at least keeps them from sleeping in the wilderness.)

This setup only causes a single negative thought ("slept without a proper room recently"), although you miss out the benefit of the happy thoughts generated by personally-owned furniture. However, as long as you compensate by offering your dwarves high-quality [[DF2010:food|food]], [[DF2010:alcohol|alcohol]], an expansive [[DF2010:dining room|dining room]], and other luxuries, your dwarves will remain happy enough to be productive throughout the life of a fortress. (You may still wish to give [[DF2010:noble|noble]]s their own rooms, however; they tend to get upset when their [[DF2010:Noble#Room_Requirements_Summary|requirements]] are not met.)

More than one dormitory can be built in a fortress; if they do not own their own bedroom, dwarves will gravitate to the nearest empty bed when it is time for them to sleep.{{verify}}

=== Plain square design ===
[[Image:square_bedroom.png|right]]
If it is 2×2, 3×3 or more, square designs are probably the first choice of many players. Easy to plan, easy to put in place, this kind of design is one of the best when the player values his playing time instead of the overall layout of his fortress. While square designs are easy to reproduce en masse, most are not optimized either for beauty or space efficiency, two aspects that other designs excel at.

=== Line design ===
[[Image:line_bedroom.png|right|thumb| '''Line design''', laid out (left) and finished (right)]]
Line designs have the advantage of being very space efficient and very adaptative. From 1×1 to 1×4 and longer, it can fit almost anywhere, can be upgraded later on as long as you have the space behind your first original line and do not need excessive corridor space for the bedroom access. Simply dig a few lines out of an access tunnel already in use in your fortress and voila, you have new living quarters. This kind of minimalistic design is perfect for when the economy kicks in, as it can be adapted in a flash for any kind of low wage citizen.

===Decentralized living===
In larger fortresses, one of the bigger problems is traffic. Dwarves have a tendency to all get hungry, thirsty, and tired in waves, and a crowd of 50 of them storming your centralized food stockpiles, one big dining room, and dormitory tunnels can cause a lot of lost time while the hordes shuffle by each other. A good solution to this is decentralized architecture, incorporating most of the essentials of every day life into numerous smaller areas. This isn't to suggest that you shouldn't have a legendary dining hall set as a meeting area, capable of holding half your fortress at once. You definitely should! But decentralizing from that dining hall relieves a lot of congestion in the halls surrounding the main dining hall, and makes it easier for dwarves just to pass through.

[[image:Living.GIF|right]]
In this image, the access stairwell (blue fields in the center), spread out in all directions to a public dormitory and dining room for poorer dwarves on the left and right to 3x3 private rooms to the top and bottom. The design allows for two small stockpiles of food (gray fields) to minimize the walk to a dining hall.

There's also built-in areas for impressive things like statues and cages (for zoos) to keep dwarves admiring your handiwork. The 3x3 rooms are easy to get up to Decent or higher to keep your most useful dwarves happy as clams. They're also conveinent for impromptu noble housing, since you can just knock out a wall between two rooms and convert one into a dining room for a whiny noble. You could even expand the corner rooms a bit more on both the X and Y axes to make four 3x3 rooms to give the noble a dining room, tomb, and office all in one area. This is especially useful for the mayor, who gets replaced every so often. When a new Mayor is elected, one can reassign all the trappings to the new mayor in one go. If you want an even more decentralized and calm traffic pattern, put tables and chairs in all the private rooms; dwarves will prefer to eat in their quarters. The walls between the doors leading to the dormitory and Dining Room allow for 2 entrances and 2 exits to each predictably higher-traffic room while leaving a pillar of rock for an engraving. The main corridor also allows you to branch off into 4 restraints per floor in a private 1x2 prison. Since it's flanked by an animal cage and a statue (or, alternatively, 2 statues. This may be better because Statues block movement and is effectively the same as surrounding the prisoner with walls) and in an area you want smoothed and engraved to begin with, it gives prisoners a leg upon their happiness immediately and -- once again -- prevents traffic jams from convicts being brought food and water in larger prisons.

Another option for maximizing traffic throughput is to put a 1x3 line of upward stairwells on one end of the blue field, and a 1x3 line of downward stairwells on the other. This simulates a 3-wide vertical corridor without the safety risks of up/down stairwells.

You may also, at your discretion, knock out the statues and cages near the stairwell to make the entire plan a little more compact (though you lose the easy prisons in this case). This plan can stretch on the x axis as much as you like, but note that the 1 wide corridors leading to individual rooms can get crowded if more than 10 dwarves are living along each one. Even with the given layout, though, one floor supports 26 private rooms and as many as 14 public beds. This works out quite nicely since one floor is enough to handle most immigrant waves, while existing floors' public beds can handle a decent amount of overflow. The public dormitory rooms can also be converted into prisons very easily (just put chains next to every bed) if you decide not to go with the main design.

=== High density single floor housing ===

[[Image:Housing_by_Marble_Dice.png|thumb|244px|This is the 61x61 housing plan]]

This fractal-inspired design combines space efficiency with wider access hallways to alleviate traffic. Stairs are placed in the middle, and the design can expand indefinitely. To decrease the size, remove the outermost perimeter hallway, and all connected bedrooms. To increase the size, use the picture as a guide and follow the same radial pattern.

{| class="wikitable" style="padding:"
|-
! style="text-align:left;" | Size
! style="text-align:left;" | Capacity
! style="text-align:left;" | Max walk distance from center
|-
| style="padding-right:26px;" | 29x29 tiles
| style="padding-right:26px;" | 48 dwarves
| style="padding-right:26px;" | 23 steps
|-
| style="padding-right:26px;" | 45x45 tiles
| style="padding-right:26px;" | 120 dwarves
| style="padding-right:26px;" | 39 steps
|-
| style="padding-right:26px;" | 61x61 tiles
| style="padding-right:26px;" | 224 dwarves
| style="padding-right:26px;" | 55 steps
|-
| style="padding-right:26px;" | 77x77 tiles
| style="padding-right:26px;" | 360 dwarves
| style="padding-right:26px;" | 71 steps
|}

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=High density, multi-level=

Optimizing space, minimizing walking distance, these are good things... for some...

===Magical Three-way Doors===

The main point of this design is that it squeezes six bedrooms in a space of six by seven squares. It's meant to be built across several Z-levels, making it take up a minimal amount of practical space. It can be easily mirrored, although that requires a wider corridor (or the use of four bedrooms instead of six on the other side).

{{diagram|spaces=yes|\
Level -1 ¦ Level 0 ¦ Level 1
+-----+ ¦ +-----+ ¦ +-----+
¦..¦..¦ ¦ ¦..¦..¦ ¦ ¦..¦..¦
+-+.¦.+-+ ¦ +-+.¦.+-+ ¦ +-+.¦.+-+
¦.++-++.¦ ¦ ¦.++-++.¦ ¦ ¦.++-++.¦
¦..¦X¦..¦ ¦ ¦..¦X¦..¦ ¦ ¦..¦X¦..¦
¦---+---¦ ¦ ---+.+--- ¦ ¦---+---¦
¦...¦...¦ ¦ ......... ¦ ¦...¦...¦
+-------+ ¦ ¦ +-------+}}

===Sandwich===

A design to move bedrooms vertically spread across many unused Z levels easily. The rooms can be preferentially scaled up or down depending on needs. If space is reserved serves well for expansion of each bedroom as suitable.

The sandwich basically consists of a three tile wide hallway or wider. Up/Down Stairways are evenly distributed in increments which lead to one or more bedrooms as needed. Hatches can be used between the individual bedrooms as vertical doors.

{{diagram|spaces=yes|\
Level -1 ¦ Level 0 ¦ Level 1
+-----------+ ¦ ¦ +-----------+
¦B.¦B.¦B.¦B.¦ ¦ ¦ ¦B.¦B.¦B.¦B.¦
¦..¦..¦..¦..¦ ¦ ------------- ¦ ¦..¦..¦..¦..¦
¦X.¦X.¦X.¦X.¦ ¦ .X..X..X..X.. ¦ ¦X.¦X.¦X.¦X.¦
¦--+--+--+--¦ ¦ ............. ¦ ¦--+--+--+--¦
¦X.¦X.¦X.¦X.¦ ¦ .X..X..X..X.. ¦ ¦X.¦X.¦X.¦X.¦
¦..¦..¦..¦..¦ ¦ ------------- ¦ ¦..¦..¦..¦..¦
¦B.¦B.¦B.¦B.¦ ¦ ¦ ¦B.¦B.¦B.¦B.¦
+-----------+ ¦ ¦ +-----------+}}

The bedroom design can be copied several times further up and down starting from Level 1 or -1 to exploit available space in neighbouring Z levels. The design is excellent as the space surrounding the hallway can be used for directly tying to the dining/meeting hall.

===6-room clusters===

[[File:ClusterBedrooms.png|thumb|350 pix|'''6-room clusters''' ''(click to enlarge)'']]
This one is quite dense. There are six bedroom clusters. They can be built close to each other.

There are 7 6-room clusters here. If 5 Z-Levels of this is built, that's 5*7*6=210, which is plenty for most any fortress.

=== Living Pods (Residential Flats) ===

This design is compact and allows for a large number of rooms. Each room has 3 tiles plus a door. To add to the complex build an apartment level one level above or below the lobby - the stairs allow direct access. The design can be stretched to make the rooms 3x2 or 3x3, or to allow more rooms per floor, depending on your preference. Though not as visually impressive as the fractal patterns it is very efficient in that it can allow for large numbers of dwarves to easily access the main hallway. The pods are very quick to deploy as the interior (mined out) width of the pods exactly equals one {{k|Shift}}+move of the cursor. Highlight a full squar with a horizontal shift+move then a vertical. Then ''un''mark the 3 internal walls in both horizontal and vertical directions (each also 1 shift+move distance long), and finally mark in the four staircases. Sixteen bedrooms with extremely efficient pathing laid out in as many seconds.
{{diagram|spaces=yes|\
Upper/lower Apartment Level: Lobby Level:
+-----------+ +-----------+..
¦..¦..¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦..¦..¦..¦.. O
¦.+-+.¦.+-+.¦ ¦.+-+.¦.+-+.¦.. u
¦-¦X¦-+-¦X¦-¦ ¦-¦X+---+X+-+.. t
¦.+-+.¦.+-+.¦ ¦.++..O........ e
¦..¦..¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦........... r
¦--+--+--+--¦ ¦--¦O...O+--+..
¦..¦..¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦.....¦..¦.. H
¦.+-+.¦.+-+.¦ ¦.++..O..++.¦.. a
¦-¦X¦-+-¦X¦-¦ ¦-¦X+---+X¦-¦.. l
¦.+-+.¦.+-+.¦ ¦.+-+.¦.+-+.¦.. l
¦..¦..¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦..¦..¦..¦..
+-----------+ +-----------+..}}

==== Pod variant ====

This is an example of varying the above to suit personal taste. Three significant changes have been made:

:1) 2 pair of vertical access stairs feed upward, instead of one horizontal hallway.

:2) The entire design has been expanded (to 15x15, vs 13x13 above), but rooms have not been expanded to fill all available space - not yet. That will be done if/as need arises, and many of the 3-tile rooms can become 5- or 7-tile<sup>1</sup>, or two joined together to become 12-tile suites<sup>2</sup>.

:3) Allow for a central waterfall with drain system*.

<pre>
Upper Apartment Level(s*): Lobby Level: Lower Apartment Level(s*):
+-----+ +-----+ +-----+ +-----+ +-----+ +-----+
¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦..¦
¦.+-+.¦ ¦.+-+.¦ ¦.+-+.¦ ¦.+-+.¦ ¦.+-+.¦ ¦.+-+.¦
¦-¦X¦-¦ ¦-¦X¦-¦ ¦-¦X¦-----¦X¦-¦ ¦-¦X¦-----¦X¦-¦
¦.+¦+.¦ ¦.+-+.¦ ¦.+¦+.OOO.+-+.¦ ¦.+¦+..¦..+-+.¦
¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦.......¦..¦ ¦..¦.+---+.¦..¦
+--+-------+--+ +--¦..###..¦--+ +--¦.¦~~~¦.¦--+
¦XX#~#XX¦ ¦<<#~#<<¦ ¦-¦~¦~¦-¦
+--+-------+--+ +--¦..###..¦--+ +--¦.¦~~~¦.¦--+
¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦.......¦..¦ ¦..¦.+---+.¦..¦
¦.+-+.¦ ¦.+-+.¦ ¦.+-+.OOO.+-+.¦ ¦.+-+..¦..+-+.¦
¦-¦X¦-¦ ¦-¦X¦-¦ ¦-¦X¦-----¦X¦-¦ ¦-¦X¦-----¦X¦-¦
¦.+-+.¦ ¦.+-+.¦ ¦.+-+.¦ ¦.+-+.¦ ¦.+-+.¦ ¦.+-+.¦
¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦..¦
+-----+ +-----+ +-----+ +-----+ +-----+ +-----+</pre>Legend:
:X = up/down stair
:< = up stair
:~ = flowing water, in waterfall and drain
:<nowiki>#</nowiki> = [[DF2010:grate|grate]] or floor [[DF2010:bars|bars]] over drain
:¦ = solid block at base of waterfall
:O = [[DF2010:statue|statue]]s (though a [[DF2010:zoo|zoo]] or booze stockpiles could work as well)

Notes:
:1) Expanding out one more tile can create size 5-11 rooms, or size 19 if two are connected.
:2) A size 15 room is ample for any noble, with the possible exception of a [[DF2010:king|king/queen]].

:<nowiki>*</nowiki> The floor plan for the waterfall/drain system may vary from floor to floor, and by personal taste. Eventually it can be routed off and out one side, and the full interior area of all levels below that reserved for apartments.

''(Note - It's easy to [[DF2010:flood|flood]] an area with a waterfall such as this - be sure you are familiar with the technique before risking an entire dormitory (or the lower parts, at least) on it.)''

=== Greek Cross design===
[[image:VaniverGreek48.png|right|thumb| 48 tile design]]
Minimizing walking distances requires good use of vertical space. This plan is simple, scalable, and only takes up a few floors- 6 if you have 32 per floor, 4 if you have 48. The maximum walking distance should be less than 20 (walking up/down stairs counts as one distance.).[[image:VaniverGreek32.png|center|thumb| 32 tile design]]

=== Shaft design ===

[[Image:Shaft_bedroom_design.gif|thumb|Shaft bedroom design with a few possible variations.]]

The Shaft design allows various options for entry direction and central "shaft" use. The central shaft may be altered to create bedrooms, dining rooms and offices for minor nobles, "deluxe" bedrooms, hospital beds, or simply more bedrooms. The design can easily accommodate several different room sizes while maintaining efficiency. However, the design utilizes Z-levels for efficiency, and you must build several levels of Shaft designs to accommodate a fully grown fortress.

The Shaft design can fit 20 2x2 rooms, or 30 1x1 rooms.

=== Tileable shaft design ===

The tileable shaft design is a further expansion of the general shaft design above, coming in somewhere between the simple geometric designs and the vastly more complex fractal designs. These are designs that can be symetrically tiled, that means concatenated in all six directions and are thus suited both for manual design as well as macro-automation. They allow the user to extend the same pattern over very large areas and to easily extend the available space per room up to a given size by tearing down just a few walls. Additionally, they can be suited for bedrooms as well as work and storage.[[Image:tileable_shaft_big.png|thumb|Tileable shaft design with a few possible variations.]]

The downsides are that they're not especially optimized for walking distance or large hallways, and the necessity of the main access shaft on the z-level (stairs) having to be in the centralmost tile (marked red in the examples) to allow z-level stacking.

=Repeating patterns & fractals=

Art for art's sake... and if it's functional, so much the better...

=== Tessellated Apartments ===

[[File:Tessellatedrooms.jpg]]

Access can be from above and/or below by the stairs, or a hallway can be run into the dining room level by removing the bedroom at one of the cardinal points. This design can be repeated as far as desired in the X, Y, and Z directions.

===Noble Hive Pods===

A geometric pattern for Noble housing trying for interesting aesthetics and high mobility. The basic tiling pattern is shown on the left; one possible way to join them, involving surrounding corridors and a central staircase and a jillion doors, on the right.

[[File:Noblehive.png]]

=== Fractal designs ===

Betting on design beauty and on geometrical symmetry first, fractal designs can also be at the same time very space and walk efficient. They however require a lot of time and space both to plan and execute and are most likely out of reach of all but the most serious players. Most players however agree that they are the most incredible of all the designs around, if not for the sheer challenge of successfully executing something as complex, as for the extra touch it gives to the fortress as a whole once it is done.

[[image:Raynard_square_delight1.png]] [[image:Raynard1.png]]

[[image:Raynard_whirlpool_housing.png]]

[[image:Hactar1_3_branch_tree.png]] [[image:Hactar1_Mandelbrot_Tree.png]]

[[Image:SavokisLeaf08a032.png]]

[[image:Andrelius_Windmill_Villas.png]]

[[image:4bh0r53n_h-fractal.jpg]]

More fractal bedroom designs based upon the H-Tree (pictured above) can be found at [[User:Tenebrous|this user page]].

===Fractal modified for 3d===
This was created by palin88 from [http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=17784.msg17413 Bay12Games forum] in order to make a three-dimensional version of Raynard's Fractal Design.

[[File:Palin88_Bedroom_Design.png]]

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v0.31 Talk:Bedroom design

2010-04-07T23:01:58Z

Otherdwarf:

v0.31:Bedroom design

2010-04-07T17:24:13Z

Otherdwarf: fixed broken picture

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There are many ways to design the layout of [[DF2010:bedroom|bedroom]]s. Simplicity, ease of designating, efficiency, and aesthetics are all important factors in designing dwarven housing. The ability to modify the design to enlarge, improve, or add rooms can be important as well. Proximity of the rooms to [[DF2010:noise|noise]] should also be considered.

The simplest approach resolving dwarven sleeping requirements is to have all your dwarves sleep in a large communal [[DF2010:barracks|barracks]]. The smallest ''bedroom design'' possible is a corridor with with notched spaces for beds.

Players frequently want designs which maximize positive thought and minimize the path distance between a dwarf's food, drink, job and home. This process is further complicated when the [[DF2010:dwarven economy|dwarven economy]] kicks in, and a wide range of "[[DF2010:Room#Specific_room_quality_grades|room qualities]]" are needed, and low-budget dwarves are kicked out of any over-priced quarters. To this end, a number of solutions, some surprisingly elegant, have been produced.

Many of the designs shown here were taken from [http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=16901.0 this forum post].

=Minimalism=

Sometimes, simpler is better... not always, but sometimes...

=== 1x1 bed only, no walls ===

By far the most minimal design is to take a bed, place it anywhere you want, then set it as a 1x1 room. This bed 'room' can be assigned to a dwarf early on, or rented once the economy kicks in, and will at least serve the bare minimum purpose of avoiding unhappy thoughts from the lack of a room. It will not, of course, leave the dwarves with any space to store any possessions at all -- but with the economy active, it will also have an absolute minimal rent, which makes it worth having a few such rooms set up. And, of course, it requires the absolute minimum work to set up; all you need is existing empty space, preferably with no noise nearby, and a bed to place in it.

An additional refinement is to expand the room area of each bed to 3x3, deliberately causing them to overlap. This lowers the value of each bed, which in turn lowers the rent and provides some low-rent housing for impoverished dwarves to stay -- it can drop as low as 7 coins depending on the arrangement.

=== Communal barracks ===

The simplest form of dwarven housing. Stick a bunch of beds and a single [[DF2010:weapon rack|weapon rack]] in a room, designate a [[DF2010:barracks|barracks]] from the rack (do not assign the rack to anyone), and, voila, instant flophouse. On maps with no [[DF2010:tree|tree]]s, this is pretty much your only option for sleeping quarters. (Dwarves will sleep on the floor of the barracks if no beds are available, which at least keeps them from sleeping in the wilderness.)

This setup only causes a single negative thought ("slept without a proper room recently"), although you miss out the benefit of the happy thoughts generated by personally-owned furniture. However, as long as you compensate by offering your dwarves high-quality [[DF2010:food|food]], [[DF2010:alcohol|alcohol]], an expansive [[DF2010:dining room|dining room]], and other luxuries, your dwarves will remain happy enough to be productive throughout the life of a fortress. (You may still wish to give [[DF2010:noble|noble]]s their own rooms, however; they tend to get upset when their [[DF2010:Noble#Room_Requirements_Summary|requirements]] are not met.)

More than one barracks can be built in a fortress; if they do not own their own bedroom, dwarves will gravitate to the nearest empty bed when it is time for them to sleep.{{verify}}

=== Plain square design ===
[[Image:square_bedroom.png|right]]
If it is 2×2, 3×3 or more, square designs are probably the first choice of many players. Easy to plan, easy to put in place, this kind of design is one of the best when the player values his playing time instead of the overall layout of his fortress. While square designs are easy to reproduce en masse, most are not optimized either for beauty or space efficiency, two aspects that other designs excel at.

=== Line design ===
[[Image:line_bedroom.png|right|thumb| '''Line design''', laid out (left) and finished (right)]]
Line designs have the advantage of being very space efficient and very adaptative. From 1×1 to 1×4 and longer, it can fit almost anywhere, can be upgraded later on as long as you have the space behind your first original line and do not need excessive corridor space for the bedroom access. Simply dig a few lines out of an access tunnel already in use in your fortress and voila, you have new living quarters. This kind of minimalistic design is perfect for when the economy kicks in, as it can be adapted in a flash for any kind of low wage citizen.

===Decentralized living===
In larger fortresses, one of the bigger problems is traffic. Dwarves have a tendency to all get hungry, thirsty, and tired in waves, and a crowd of 50 of them storming your centralized food stockpiles, one big dining room, and dormitory tunnels can cause a lot of lost time while the hordes shuffle by each other. A good solution to this is decentralized architecture, incorporating most of the essentials of every day life into numerous smaller areas. This isn't to suggest that you shouldn't have a legendary dining hall set as a meeting area, capable of holding half your fortress at once. You definitely should! But decentralizing from that dining hall relieves a lot of congestion in the halls surrounding the main dining hall, and makes it easier for dwarves just to pass through.

[[image:Living.GIF|right]]
In this image, the access stairwell (blue fields in the center), spread out in all directions to a public barracks and dining room for poorer dwarves on the left and right to 3x3 private rooms to the top and bottom. The design allows for two small stockpiles of food (gray fields) to minimize the walk to a dining hall.

There's also built-in areas for impressive things like statues and cages (for zoos) to keep dwarves admiring your handiwork. The 3x3 rooms are easy to get up to Decent or higher to keep your most useful dwarves happy as clams. They're also conveinent for impromptu noble housing, since you can just knock out a wall between two rooms and convert one into a dining room for a whiny noble. You could even expand the corner rooms a bit more on both the X and Y axes to make four 3x3 rooms to give the noble a dining room, tomb, and office all in one area. This is especially useful for the mayor, who gets replaced every so often. When a new Mayor is elected, one can reassign all the trappings to the new mayor in one go. If you want an even more decentralized and calm traffic pattern, put tables and chairs in all the private rooms; dwarves will prefer to eat in their quarters. The walls between the doors leading to the Barrack and Dining Room allow for 2 entrances and 2 exits to each predictably higher-traffic room while leaving a pillar of rock for an engraving. The main corridor also allows you to branch off into 4 restraints per floor in a private 1x2 prison. Since it's flanked by an animal cage and a statue (or, alternatively, 2 statues. This may be better because Statues block movement and is effectively the same as surrounding the prisoner with walls) and in an area you want smoothed and engraved to begin with, it gives prisoners a leg upon their happiness immediately and -- once again -- prevents traffic jams from convicts being brought food and water in larger prisons.

Another option for maximizing traffic throughput is to put a 1x3 line of upward stairwells on one end of the blue field, and a 1x3 line of downward stairwells on the other. This simulates a 3-wide vertical corridor without the safety risks of up/down stairwells.

You may also, at your discretion, knock out the statues and cages near the stairwell to make the entire plan a little more compact (though you lose the easy prisons in this case). This plan can stretch on the x axis as much as you like, but note that the 1 wide corridors leading to individual rooms can get crowded if more than 10 dwarves are living along each one. Even with the given layout, though, one floor supports 26 private rooms and as many as 14 public beds. This works out quite nicely since one floor is enough to handle most immigrant waves, while existing floors' public beds can handle a decent amount of overflow. The public barrack rooms can also be converted into prisons very easily (just put chains next to every bed) if you decide not to go with the main design.

=== High density single floor housing ===

[[Image:Housing_by_Marble_Dice.png|thumb|244px|This is the 61x61 housing plan]]

This fractal-inspired design combines space efficiency with wider access hallways to alleviate traffic. Stairs are placed in the middle, and the design can expand indefinitely. To decrease the size, remove the outermost perimeter hallway, and all connected bedrooms. To increase the size, use the picture as a guide and follow the same radial pattern.

{| class="wikitable" style="padding:"
|-
! style="text-align:left;" | Size
! style="text-align:left;" | Capacity
! style="text-align:left;" | Max walk distance from center
|-
| style="padding-right:26px;" | 29x29 tiles
| style="padding-right:26px;" | 48 dwarves
| style="padding-right:26px;" | 23 steps
|-
| style="padding-right:26px;" | 45x45 tiles
| style="padding-right:26px;" | 120 dwarves
| style="padding-right:26px;" | 39 steps
|-
| style="padding-right:26px;" | 61x61 tiles
| style="padding-right:26px;" | 224 dwarves
| style="padding-right:26px;" | 55 steps
|-
| style="padding-right:26px;" | 77x77 tiles
| style="padding-right:26px;" | 360 dwarves
| style="padding-right:26px;" | 71 steps
|}

<br style="clear:both" />

=High density, multi-level=

Optimizing space, minimizing walking distance, these are good things... for some...

===Magical Three-way Doors===

The main point of this design is that it squeezes six bedrooms in a space of six by seven squares. It's meant to be built across several Z-levels, making it take up a minimal amount of practical space. It can be easily mirrored, although that requires a wider corridor (or the use of four bedrooms instead of six on the other side).

{{diagram|spaces=yes|\
Level -1 ¦ Level 0 ¦ Level 1
+-----+ ¦ +-----+ ¦ +-----+
¦..¦..¦ ¦ ¦..¦..¦ ¦ ¦..¦..¦
+-+.¦.+-+ ¦ +-+.¦.+-+ ¦ +-+.¦.+-+
¦.++-++.¦ ¦ ¦.++-++.¦ ¦ ¦.++-++.¦
¦..¦X¦..¦ ¦ ¦..¦X¦..¦ ¦ ¦..¦X¦..¦
¦---+---¦ ¦ ---+.+--- ¦ ¦---+---¦
¦...¦...¦ ¦ ......... ¦ ¦...¦...¦
+-------+ ¦ ¦ +-------+}}

===Sandwich===

A design to move bedrooms vertically spread across many unused Z levels easily. The rooms can be preferentially scaled up or down depending on needs. If space is reserved serves well for expansion of each bedroom as suitable.

The sandwich basically consists of a three tile wide hallway or wider. Up/Down Stairways are evenly distributed in increments which lead to one or more bedrooms as needed. Hatches can be used between the individual bedrooms as vertical doors.

{{diagram|spaces=yes|\
Level -1 ¦ Level 0 ¦ Level 1
+-----------+ ¦ ¦ +-----------+
¦B.¦B.¦B.¦B.¦ ¦ ¦ ¦B.¦B.¦B.¦B.¦
¦..¦..¦..¦..¦ ¦ ------------- ¦ ¦..¦..¦..¦..¦
¦X.¦X.¦X.¦X.¦ ¦ .X..X..X..X.. ¦ ¦X.¦X.¦X.¦X.¦
¦--+--+--+--¦ ¦ ............. ¦ ¦--+--+--+--¦
¦X.¦X.¦X.¦X.¦ ¦ .X..X..X..X.. ¦ ¦X.¦X.¦X.¦X.¦
¦..¦..¦..¦..¦ ¦ ------------- ¦ ¦..¦..¦..¦..¦
¦B.¦B.¦B.¦B.¦ ¦ ¦ ¦B.¦B.¦B.¦B.¦
+-----------+ ¦ ¦ +-----------+}}

The bedroom design can be copied several times further up and down starting from Level 1 or -1 to exploit available space in neighbouring Z levels. The design is excellent as the space surrounding the hallway can be used for directly tying to the dining/meeting hall.

===6-room clusters===

[[File:ClusterBedrooms.png|thumb|350 pix|'''6-room clusters''' ''(click to enlarge)'']]
This one is quite dense. There are six bedroom clusters. They can be built close to each other.

There are 7 6-room clusters here. If 5 Z-Levels of this is built, that's 5*7*6=210, which is plenty for most any fortress.

=== Living Pods (Residential Flats) ===

This design is compact and allows for a large number of rooms. Each room has 3 tiles plus a door. To add to the complex build an apartment level one level above or below the lobby - the stairs allow direct access. The design can be stretched to make the rooms 3x2 or 3x3, or to allow more rooms per floor, depending on your preference. Though not as visually impressive as the fractal patterns it is very efficient in that it can allow for large numbers of dwarves to easily access the main hallway. The pods are very quick to deploy as the interior (mined out) width of the pods exactly equals one {{k|Shift}}+move of the cursor. Highlight a full squar with a horizontal shift+move then a vertical. Then ''un''mark the 3 internal walls in both horizontal and vertical directions (each also 1 shift+move distance long), and finally mark in the four staircases. Sixteen bedrooms with extremely efficient pathing laid out in as many seconds.
{{diagram|spaces=yes|\
Upper/lower Apartment Level: Lobby Level:
+-----------+ +-----------+..
¦..¦..¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦..¦..¦..¦.. O
¦.+-+.¦.+-+.¦ ¦.+-+.¦.+-+.¦.. u
¦-¦X¦-+-¦X¦-¦ ¦-¦X+---+X+-+.. t
¦.+-+.¦.+-+.¦ ¦.++..O........ e
¦..¦..¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦........... r
¦--+--+--+--¦ ¦--¦O...O+--+..
¦..¦..¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦.....¦..¦.. H
¦.+-+.¦.+-+.¦ ¦.++..O..++.¦.. a
¦-¦X¦-+-¦X¦-¦ ¦-¦X+---+X¦-¦.. l
¦.+-+.¦.+-+.¦ ¦.+-+.¦.+-+.¦.. l
¦..¦..¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦..¦..¦..¦..
+-----------+ +-----------+..}}

==== Pod variant ====

This is an example of varying the above to suit personal taste. Three significant changes have been made:

:1) 2 pair of vertical access stairs feed upward, instead of one horizontal hallway.

:2) The entire design has been expanded (to 15x15, vs 13x13 above), but rooms have not been expanded to fill all available space - not yet. That will be done if/as need arises, and many of the 3-tile rooms can become 5- or 7-tile<sup>1</sup>, or two joined together to become 12-tile suites<sup>2</sup>.

:3) Allow for a central waterfall with drain system*.

<pre>
Upper Apartment Level(s*): Lobby Level: Lower Apartment Level(s*):
+-----+ +-----+ +-----+ +-----+ +-----+ +-----+
¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦..¦
¦.+-+.¦ ¦.+-+.¦ ¦.+-+.¦ ¦.+-+.¦ ¦.+-+.¦ ¦.+-+.¦
¦-¦X¦-¦ ¦-¦X¦-¦ ¦-¦X¦-----¦X¦-¦ ¦-¦X¦-----¦X¦-¦
¦.+¦+.¦ ¦.+-+.¦ ¦.+¦+.OOO.+-+.¦ ¦.+¦+..¦..+-+.¦
¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦.......¦..¦ ¦..¦.+---+.¦..¦
+--+-------+--+ +--¦..###..¦--+ +--¦.¦~~~¦.¦--+
¦XX#~#XX¦ ¦<<#~#<<¦ ¦-¦~¦~¦-¦
+--+-------+--+ +--¦..###..¦--+ +--¦.¦~~~¦.¦--+
¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦.......¦..¦ ¦..¦.+---+.¦..¦
¦.+-+.¦ ¦.+-+.¦ ¦.+-+.OOO.+-+.¦ ¦.+-+..¦..+-+.¦
¦-¦X¦-¦ ¦-¦X¦-¦ ¦-¦X¦-----¦X¦-¦ ¦-¦X¦-----¦X¦-¦
¦.+-+.¦ ¦.+-+.¦ ¦.+-+.¦ ¦.+-+.¦ ¦.+-+.¦ ¦.+-+.¦
¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦..¦
+-----+ +-----+ +-----+ +-----+ +-----+ +-----+</pre>Legend:
:X = up/down stair
:< = up stair
:~ = flowing water, in waterfall and drain
:<nowiki>#</nowiki> = [[DF2010:grate|grate]] or floor [[DF2010:bars|bars]] over drain
:¦ = solid block at base of waterfall
:O = [[DF2010:statue|statue]]s (though a [[DF2010:zoo|zoo]] or booze stockpiles could work as well)

Notes:
:1) Expanding out one more tile can create size 5-11 rooms, or size 19 if two are connected.
:2) A size 15 room is ample for any noble, with the possible exception of a [[DF2010:king|king/queen]].

:<nowiki>*</nowiki> The floor plan for the waterfall/drain system may vary from floor to floor, and by personal taste. Eventually it can be routed off and out one side, and the full interior area of all levels below that reserved for apartments.

''(Note - It's easy to [[DF2010:flood|flood]] an area with a waterfall such as this - be sure you are familiar with the technique before risking an entire dormitory (or the lower parts, at least) on it.)''

=== Greek Cross design===
[[image:VaniverGreek48.png|right|thumb| 48 tile design]]
Minimizing walking distances requires good use of vertical space. This plan is simple, scalable, and only takes up a few floors- 6 if you have 32 per floor, 4 if you have 48. The maximum walking distance should be less than 20 (walking up/down stairs counts as one distance.).[[image:VaniverGreek32.png|center|thumb| 32 tile design]]

=== Shaft design ===

[[Image:Shaft_bedroom_design.gif|thumb|Shaft bedroom design with a few possible variations.]]

The Shaft design allows various options for entry direction and central "shaft" use. The central shaft may be altered to create bedrooms, dining rooms and offices for minor nobles, "deluxe" bedrooms, hospital beds, or simply more bedrooms. The design can easily accommodate several different room sizes while maintaining efficiency. However, the design utilizes Z-levels for efficiency, and you must build several levels of Shaft designs to accommodate a fully grown fortress.

The Shaft design can fit 20 2x2 rooms, or 30 1x1 rooms.

=== Tileable shaft design ===

The tileable shaft design is a further expansion of the general shaft design above, coming in somewhere between the simple geometric designs and the vastly more complex fractal designs. These are designs that can be symetrically tiled, that means concatenated in all six directions and are thus suited both for manual design as well as macro-automation. They allow the user to extend the same pattern over very large areas and to easily extend the available space per room up to a given size by tearing down just a few walls. Additionally, they can be suited for bedrooms as well as work and storage.[[Image:tileable_shaft_big.png|thumb|Tileable shaft design with a few possible variations.]]

The downsides are that they're not especially optimized for walking distance or large hallways, and the necessity of the main access shaft on the z-level (stairs) having to be in the centralmost tile (marked red in the examples) to allow z-level stacking.

=Repeating patterns & fractals=

Art for art's sake... and if it's functional, so much the better...

=== Tessellated Apartments ===

[[File:Tessellatedrooms.jpg]]

Access can be from above and/or below by the stairs, or a hallway can be run into the dining room level by removing the bedroom at one of the cardinal points. This design can be repeated as far as desired in the X, Y, and Z directions.

===Noble Hive Pods===

A geometric pattern for Noble housing trying for interesting aesthetics and high mobility. The basic tiling pattern is shown on the left; one possible way to join them, involving surrounding corridors and a central staircase and a jillion doors, on the right.

[[File:Noblehive.png]]

=== Fractal designs ===

Betting on design beauty and on geometrical symmetry first, fractal designs can also be at the same time very space and walk efficient. They however require a lot of time and space both to plan and execute and are most likely out of reach of all but the most serious players. Most players however agree that they are the most incredible of all the designs around, if not for the sheer challenge of successfully executing something as complex, as for the extra touch it gives to the fortress as a whole once it is done.

[[image:Raynard_square_delight1.png]] [[image:Raynard1.png]]

[[image:Raynard_whirlpool_housing.png]]

[[image:Hactar1_3_branch_tree.png]] [[image:Hactar1_Mandelbrot_Tree.png]]

[[Image:SavokisLeaf08a032.png]]

[[image:Andrelius_Windmill_Villas.png]]

[[image:4bh0r53n_h-fractal.jpg]]

More fractal bedroom designs based upon the H-Tree (pictured above) can be found at [[User:Tenebrous|this user page]].

===Fractal modified for 3d===
This was created by palin88 from [http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=17784.msg17413 Bay12Games forum] in order to make a three-dimensional version of Raynard's Fractal Design.

[[File:Palin88_Bedroom_Design.png]]

{{Buildings}}
[[Category:Design]]

v0.31:Bedroom design

2010-04-07T17:17:52Z

Otherdwarf: Copied old article, since the basics of bedroom design have not changed since the last version

{{av}}
There are many ways to design the layout of [[DF2010:bedroom|bedroom]]s. Simplicity, ease of designating, efficiency, and aesthetics are all important factors in designing dwarven housing. The ability to modify the design to enlarge, improve, or add rooms can be important as well. Proximity of the rooms to [[DF2010:noise|noise]] should also be considered.

The simplest approach resolving dwarven sleeping requirements is to have all your dwarves sleep in a large communal [[DF2010:barracks|barracks]]. The smallest ''bedroom design'' possible is a corridor with with notched spaces for beds.

Players frequently want designs which maximize positive thought and minimize the path distance between a dwarf's food, drink, job and home. This process is further complicated when the [[DF2010:dwarven economy|dwarven economy]] kicks in, and a wide range of "[[DF2010:Room#Specific_room_quality_grades|room qualities]]" are needed, and low-budget dwarves are kicked out of any over-priced quarters. To this end, a number of solutions, some surprisingly elegant, have been produced.

Many of the designs shown here were taken from [http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=16901.0 this forum post].

=Minimalism=

Sometimes, simpler is better... not always, but sometimes...

=== 1x1 bed only, no walls ===

By far the most minimal design is to take a bed, place it anywhere you want, then set it as a 1x1 room. This bed 'room' can be assigned to a dwarf early on, or rented once the economy kicks in, and will at least serve the bare minimum purpose of avoiding unhappy thoughts from the lack of a room. It will not, of course, leave the dwarves with any space to store any possessions at all -- but with the economy active, it will also have an absolute minimal rent, which makes it worth having a few such rooms set up. And, of course, it requires the absolute minimum work to set up; all you need is existing empty space, preferably with no noise nearby, and a bed to place in it.

An additional refinement is to expand the room area of each bed to 3x3, deliberately causing them to overlap. This lowers the value of each bed, which in turn lowers the rent and provides some low-rent housing for impoverished dwarves to stay -- it can drop as low as 7 coins depending on the arrangement.

=== Communal barracks ===

The simplest form of dwarven housing. Stick a bunch of beds and a single [[DF2010:weapon rack|weapon rack]] in a room, designate a [[DF2010:barracks|barracks]] from the rack (do not assign the rack to anyone), and, voila, instant flophouse. On maps with no [[DF2010:tree|tree]]s, this is pretty much your only option for sleeping quarters. (Dwarves will sleep on the floor of the barracks if no beds are available, which at least keeps them from sleeping in the wilderness.)

This setup only causes a single negative thought ("slept without a proper room recently"), although you miss out the benefit of the happy thoughts generated by personally-owned furniture. However, as long as you compensate by offering your dwarves high-quality [[DF2010:food|food]], [[DF2010:alcohol|alcohol]], an expansive [[DF2010:dining room|dining room]], and other luxuries, your dwarves will remain happy enough to be productive throughout the life of a fortress. (You may still wish to give [[DF2010:noble|noble]]s their own rooms, however; they tend to get upset when their [[DF2010:Noble#Room_Requirements_Summary|requirements]] are not met.)

More than one barracks can be built in a fortress; if they do not own their own bedroom, dwarves will gravitate to the nearest empty bed when it is time for them to sleep.{{verify}}

=== Plain square design ===
[[Image:square_bedroom.png|right]]
If it is 2×2, 3×3 or more, square designs are probably the first choice of many players. Easy to plan, easy to put in place, this kind of design is one of the best when the player values his playing time instead of the overall layout of his fortress. While square designs are easy to reproduce en masse, most are not optimized either for beauty or space efficiency, two aspects that other designs excel at.

=== Line design ===
[[Image:line_bedroom.png|right|thumb| '''Line design''', laid out (left) and finished (right)]]
Line designs have the advantage of being very space efficient and very adaptative. From 1×1 to 1×4 and longer, it can fit almost anywhere, can be upgraded later on as long as you have the space behind your first original line and do not need excessive corridor space for the bedroom access. Simply dig a few lines out of an access tunnel already in use in your fortress and voila, you have new living quarters. This kind of minimalistic design is perfect for when the economy kicks in, as it can be adapted in a flash for any kind of low wage citizen.

===Decentralized living===
In larger fortresses, one of the bigger problems is traffic. Dwarves have a tendency to all get hungry, thirsty, and tired in waves, and a crowd of 50 of them storming your centralized food stockpiles, one big dining room, and dormitory tunnels can cause a lot of lost time while the hordes shuffle by each other. A good solution to this is decentralized architecture, incorporating most of the essentials of every day life into numerous smaller areas. This isn't to suggest that you shouldn't have a legendary dining hall set as a meeting area, capable of holding half your fortress at once. You definitely should! But decentralizing from that dining hall relieves a lot of congestion in the halls surrounding the main dining hall, and makes it easier for dwarves just to pass through.

[[image:Living.GIF|right]]
In this image, the access stairwell (blue fields in the center), spread out in all directions to a public barracks and dining room for poorer dwarves on the left and right to 3x3 private rooms to the top and bottom. The design allows for two small stockpiles of food (gray fields) to minimize the walk to a dining hall.

There's also built-in areas for impressive things like statues and cages (for zoos) to keep dwarves admiring your handiwork. The 3x3 rooms are easy to get up to Decent or higher to keep your most useful dwarves happy as clams. They're also conveinent for impromptu noble housing, since you can just knock out a wall between two rooms and convert one into a dining room for a whiny noble. You could even expand the corner rooms a bit more on both the X and Y axes to make four 3x3 rooms to give the noble a dining room, tomb, and office all in one area. This is especially useful for the mayor, who gets replaced every so often. When a new Mayor is elected, one can reassign all the trappings to the new mayor in one go. If you want an even more decentralized and calm traffic pattern, put tables and chairs in all the private rooms; dwarves will prefer to eat in their quarters. The walls between the doors leading to the Barrack and Dining Room allow for 2 entrances and 2 exits to each predictably higher-traffic room while leaving a pillar of rock for an engraving. The main corridor also allows you to branch off into 4 restraints per floor in a private 1x2 prison. Since it's flanked by an animal cage and a statue (or, alternatively, 2 statues. This may be better because Statues block movement and is effectively the same as surrounding the prisoner with walls) and in an area you want smoothed and engraved to begin with, it gives prisoners a leg upon their happiness immediately and -- once again -- prevents traffic jams from convicts being brought food and water in larger prisons.

Another option for maximizing traffic throughput is to put a 1x3 line of upward stairwells on one end of the blue field, and a 1x3 line of downward stairwells on the other. This simulates a 3-wide vertical corridor without the safety risks of up/down stairwells.

You may also, at your discretion, knock out the statues and cages near the stairwell to make the entire plan a little more compact (though you lose the easy prisons in this case). This plan can stretch on the x axis as much as you like, but note that the 1 wide corridors leading to individual rooms can get crowded if more than 10 dwarves are living along each one. Even with the given layout, though, one floor supports 26 private rooms and as many as 14 public beds. This works out quite nicely since one floor is enough to handle most immigrant waves, while existing floors' public beds can handle a decent amount of overflow. The public barrack rooms can also be converted into prisons very easily (just put chains next to every bed) if you decide not to go with the main design.

=== High density single floor housing ===

[[Image:Housing_by_Marble_Dice.png|thumb|244px|This is the 61x61 housing plan]]

This fractal-inspired design combines space efficiency with wider access hallways to alleviate traffic. Stairs are placed in the middle, and the design can expand indefinitely. To decrease the size, remove the outermost perimeter hallway, and all connected bedrooms. To increase the size, use the picture as a guide and follow the same radial pattern.

{| class="wikitable" style="padding:"
|-
! style="text-align:left;" | Size
! style="text-align:left;" | Capacity
! style="text-align:left;" | Max walk distance from center
|-
| style="padding-right:26px;" | 29x29 tiles
| style="padding-right:26px;" | 48 dwarves
| style="padding-right:26px;" | 23 steps
|-
| style="padding-right:26px;" | 45x45 tiles
| style="padding-right:26px;" | 120 dwarves
| style="padding-right:26px;" | 39 steps
|-
| style="padding-right:26px;" | 61x61 tiles
| style="padding-right:26px;" | 224 dwarves
| style="padding-right:26px;" | 55 steps
|-
| style="padding-right:26px;" | 77x77 tiles
| style="padding-right:26px;" | 360 dwarves
| style="padding-right:26px;" | 71 steps
|}

<br style="clear:both" />

=High density, multi-level=

Optimizing space, minimizing walking distance, these are good things... for some...

===Magical Three-way Doors===

The main point of this design is that it squeezes six bedrooms in a space of six by seven squares. It's meant to be built across several Z-levels, making it take up a minimal amount of practical space. It can be easily mirrored, although that requires a wider corridor (or the use of four bedrooms instead of six on the other side).

{{diagram|spaces=yes|\
Level -1 ¦ Level 0 ¦ Level 1
+-----+ ¦ +-----+ ¦ +-----+
¦..¦..¦ ¦ ¦..¦..¦ ¦ ¦..¦..¦
+-+.¦.+-+ ¦ +-+.¦.+-+ ¦ +-+.¦.+-+
¦.++-++.¦ ¦ ¦.++-++.¦ ¦ ¦.++-++.¦
¦..¦X¦..¦ ¦ ¦..¦X¦..¦ ¦ ¦..¦X¦..¦
¦---+---¦ ¦ ---+.+--- ¦ ¦---+---¦
¦...¦...¦ ¦ ......... ¦ ¦...¦...¦
+-------+ ¦ ¦ +-------+}}

===Sandwich===

A design to move bedrooms vertically spread across many unused Z levels easily. The rooms can be preferentially scaled up or down depending on needs. If space is reserved serves well for expansion of each bedroom as suitable.

The sandwich basically consists of a three tile wide hallway or wider. Up/Down Stairways are evenly distributed in increments which lead to one or more bedrooms as needed. Hatches can be used between the individual bedrooms as vertical doors.

{{diagram|spaces=yes|\
Level -1 ¦ Level 0 ¦ Level 1
+-----------+ ¦ ¦ +-----------+
¦B.¦B.¦B.¦B.¦ ¦ ¦ ¦B.¦B.¦B.¦B.¦
¦..¦..¦..¦..¦ ¦ ------------- ¦ ¦..¦..¦..¦..¦
¦X.¦X.¦X.¦X.¦ ¦ .X..X..X..X.. ¦ ¦X.¦X.¦X.¦X.¦
¦--+--+--+--¦ ¦ ............. ¦ ¦--+--+--+--¦
¦X.¦X.¦X.¦X.¦ ¦ .X..X..X..X.. ¦ ¦X.¦X.¦X.¦X.¦
¦..¦..¦..¦..¦ ¦ ------------- ¦ ¦..¦..¦..¦..¦
¦B.¦B.¦B.¦B.¦ ¦ ¦ ¦B.¦B.¦B.¦B.¦
+-----------+ ¦ ¦ +-----------+}}

The bedroom design can be copied several times further up and down starting from Level 1 or -1 to exploit available space in neighbouring Z levels. The design is excellent as the space surrounding the hallway can be used for directly tying to the dining/meeting hall.

===6-room clusters===

[[File:ClusterBedrooms.png|thumb|350 pix|'''6-room clusters''' ''(click to enlarge)'']]
This one is quite dense. There are six bedroom clusters. They can be built close to each other.

There are 7 6-room clusters here. If 5 Z-Levels of this is built, that's 5*7*6=210, which is plenty for most any fortress.

=== Living Pods (Residential Flats) ===

This design is compact and allows for a large number of rooms. Each room has 3 tiles plus a door. To add to the complex build an apartment level one level above or below the lobby - the stairs allow direct access. The design can be stretched to make the rooms 3x2 or 3x3, or to allow more rooms per floor, depending on your preference. Though not as visually impressive as the fractal patterns it is very efficient in that it can allow for large numbers of dwarves to easily access the main hallway. The pods are very quick to deploy as the interior (mined out) width of the pods exactly equals one {{k|Shift}}+move of the cursor. Highlight a full squar with a horizontal shift+move then a vertical. Then ''un''mark the 3 internal walls in both horizontal and vertical directions (each also 1 shift+move distance long), and finally mark in the four staircases. Sixteen bedrooms with extremely efficient pathing laid out in as many seconds.
{{diagram|spaces=yes|\
Upper/lower Apartment Level: Lobby Level:
+-----------+ +-----------+..
¦..¦..¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦..¦..¦..¦.. O
¦.+-+.¦.+-+.¦ ¦.+-+.¦.+-+.¦.. u
¦-¦X¦-+-¦X¦-¦ ¦-¦X+---+X+-+.. t
¦.+-+.¦.+-+.¦ ¦.++..O........ e
¦..¦..¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦........... r
¦--+--+--+--¦ ¦--¦O...O+--+..
¦..¦..¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦.....¦..¦.. H
¦.+-+.¦.+-+.¦ ¦.++..O..++.¦.. a
¦-¦X¦-+-¦X¦-¦ ¦-¦X+---+X¦-¦.. l
¦.+-+.¦.+-+.¦ ¦.+-+.¦.+-+.¦.. l
¦..¦..¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦..¦..¦..¦..
+-----------+ +-----------+..}}

==== Pod variant ====

This is an example of varying the above to suit personal taste. Three significant changes have been made:

:1) 2 pair of vertical access stairs feed upward, instead of one horizontal hallway.

:2) The entire design has been expanded (to 15x15, vs 13x13 above), but rooms have not been expanded to fill all available space - not yet. That will be done if/as need arises, and many of the 3-tile rooms can become 5- or 7-tile<sup>1</sup>, or two joined together to become 12-tile suites<sup>2</sup>.

:3) Allow for a central waterfall with drain system*.

<pre>
Upper Apartment Level(s*): Lobby Level: Lower Apartment Level(s*):
+-----+ +-----+ +-----+ +-----+ +-----+ +-----+
¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦..¦
¦.+-+.¦ ¦.+-+.¦ ¦.+-+.¦ ¦.+-+.¦ ¦.+-+.¦ ¦.+-+.¦
¦-¦X¦-¦ ¦-¦X¦-¦ ¦-¦X¦-----¦X¦-¦ ¦-¦X¦-----¦X¦-¦
¦.+¦+.¦ ¦.+-+.¦ ¦.+¦+.OOO.+-+.¦ ¦.+¦+..¦..+-+.¦
¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦.......¦..¦ ¦..¦.+---+.¦..¦
+--+-------+--+ +--¦..###..¦--+ +--¦.¦~~~¦.¦--+
¦XX#~#XX¦ ¦<<#~#<<¦ ¦-¦~¦~¦-¦
+--+-------+--+ +--¦..###..¦--+ +--¦.¦~~~¦.¦--+
¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦.......¦..¦ ¦..¦.+---+.¦..¦
¦.+-+.¦ ¦.+-+.¦ ¦.+-+.OOO.+-+.¦ ¦.+-+..¦..+-+.¦
¦-¦X¦-¦ ¦-¦X¦-¦ ¦-¦X¦-----¦X¦-¦ ¦-¦X¦-----¦X¦-¦
¦.+-+.¦ ¦.+-+.¦ ¦.+-+.¦ ¦.+-+.¦ ¦.+-+.¦ ¦.+-+.¦
¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦..¦ ¦..¦..¦
+-----+ +-----+ +-----+ +-----+ +-----+ +-----+</pre>Legend:
:X = up/down stair
:< = up stair
:~ = flowing water, in waterfall and drain
:<nowiki>#</nowiki> = [[DF2010:grate|grate]] or floor [[DF2010:bars|bars]] over drain
:¦ = solid block at base of waterfall
:O = [[DF2010:statue|statue]]s (though a [[DF2010:zoo|zoo]] or booze stockpiles could work as well)

Notes:
:1) Expanding out one more tile can create size 5-11 rooms, or size 19 if two are connected.
:2) A size 15 room is ample for any noble, with the possible exception of a [[DF2010:king|king/queen]].

:<nowiki>*</nowiki> The floor plan for the waterfall/drain system may vary from floor to floor, and by personal taste. Eventually it can be routed off and out one side, and the full interior area of all levels below that reserved for apartments.

''(Note - It's easy to [[DF2010:flood|flood]] an area with a waterfall such as this - be sure you are familiar with the technique before risking an entire dormitory (or the lower parts, at least) on it.)''

=== Greek Cross design===
[[image:VaniverGreek48.png|right|thumb| 48 tile design]]
Minimizing walking distances requires good use of vertical space. This plan is simple, scalable, and only takes up a few floors- 6 if you have 32 per floor, 4 if you have 48. The maximum walking distance should be less than 20 (walking up/down stairs counts as one distance.).[[image:VaniverGreek32.png|center|thumb| 32 tile design]]

=== Shaft design ===

[[Image:Shaft_bedroom_design.gif|thumb|Shaft bedroom design with a few possible variations.]]

The Shaft design allows various options for entry direction and central "shaft" use. The central shaft may be altered to create bedrooms, dining rooms and offices for minor nobles, "deluxe" bedrooms, hospital beds, or simply more bedrooms. The design can easily accommodate several different room sizes while maintaining efficiency. However, the design utilizes Z-levels for efficiency, and you must build several levels of Shaft designs to accommodate a fully grown fortress.

The Shaft design can fit 20 2x2 rooms, or 30 1x1 rooms.

=== Tileable shaft design ===

The tileable shaft design is a further expansion of the general shaft design above, coming in somewhere between the simple geometric designs and the vastly more complex fractal designs. These are designs that can be symetrically tiled, that means concatenated in all six directions and are thus suited both for manual design as well as macro-automation. They allow the user to extend the same pattern over very large areas and to easily extend the available space per room up to a given size by tearing down just a few walls. Additionally, they can be suited for bedrooms as well as work and storage.[[Image:tileable_shaft_big.png|thumb|Tileable shaft design with a few possible variations.]]

The downsides are that they're not especially optimized for walking distance or large hallways, and the necessity of the main access shaft on the z-level (stairs) having to be in the centralmost tile (marked red in the examples) to allow z-level stacking.

=Repeating patterns & fractals=

Art for art's sake... and if it's functional, so much the better...

=== Tessellated Apartments ===

[[File:Tessellatedrooms.jpg?]]

Access can be from above and/or below by the stairs, or a hallway can be run into the dining room level by removing the bedroom at one of the cardinal points. This design can be repeated as far as desired in the X, Y, and Z directions.

===Noble Hive Pods===

A geometric pattern for Noble housing trying for interesting aesthetics and high mobility. The basic tiling pattern is shown on the left; one possible way to join them, involving surrounding corridors and a central staircase and a jillion doors, on the right.

[[File:Noblehive.png]]

=== Fractal designs ===

Betting on design beauty and on geometrical symmetry first, fractal designs can also be at the same time very space and walk efficient. They however require a lot of time and space both to plan and execute and are most likely out of reach of all but the most serious players. Most players however agree that they are the most incredible of all the designs around, if not for the sheer challenge of successfully executing something as complex, as for the extra touch it gives to the fortress as a whole once it is done.

[[image:Raynard_square_delight1.png]] [[image:Raynard1.png]]

[[image:Raynard_whirlpool_housing.png]]

[[image:Hactar1_3_branch_tree.png]] [[image:Hactar1_Mandelbrot_Tree.png]]

[[Image:SavokisLeaf08a032.png]]

[[image:Andrelius_Windmill_Villas.png]]

[[image:4bh0r53n_h-fractal.jpg]]

More fractal bedroom designs based upon the H-Tree (pictured above) can be found at [[User:Tenebrous|this user page]].

===Fractal modified for 3d===
This was created by palin88 from [http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=17784.msg17413 Bay12Games forum] in order to make a three-dimensional version of Raynard's Fractal Design.

[[File:Palin88_Bedroom_Design.png]]

{{Buildings}}
[[Category:Design]]

User:Otherdwarf

2010-03-11T22:18:29Z

Otherdwarf: Blanked the page

40d:Strange mood

2008-10-01T14:28:22Z

Otherdwarf: Removed Furnace Operator from list of moodable skills

Periodically, individual dwarves are struck with an idea for a [[legendary artifact]] and enter a '''strange mood'''. Any dwarf which enters a strange mood will stop whatever they are doing and pursue the construction of this artifact to the exclusion of all else. They will not stop to eat, drink, sleep, or even run away from dangerous creatures. If they do not manage to begin construction of the artifact within a handful of months, they will go [[Strange mood#Failure|insane]] and die soon afterward.
==Overview==
The entire process can be summarised as follows:
# Strange moods can only occur when the below necessary [[#Conditions|conditions]] are met.
# The game will pause, center on a dwarf, and announce that the dwarf has entered one of five different types of strange mood. The [[#Types|types of mood]] are listed below. While in a mood, a dwarf will display a blinking exclamation point (see [[status icons]]).
# The dwarf will claim a workshop, kick out any dwarf who was using it, and render it unusable until the mood has been resolved. If a moody dwarf does not claim a workshop, it is because the appropriate workshop does not exist. See [[#Skills and workshops|skills and workshops]] below to determine which workshop(s) might be required.
# After claiming a workshop, the dwarf will set about collecting the required materials for their artifact. If the dwarf remains idle inside the workshop, it's because they cannot find the right material. Reference the [[#Demands|demands]] section to determine what may be required.
# Once all materials have been gathered, the game will once again pause and center, and the moody dwarf will begin construction. Upon completion the dwarf will gain a legendary skill (unless the mood type is [[#Possessed|possessed]]). See the [[#Skills and workshops|skills and workshops]] for information on which skills can be gained, or the [[#Artifacts created|artifacts created]] section for more details on the artifacts themselves.

== Conditions ==
Strange moods can only occur when there is no currently active strange mood, there are eligible dwarves, you have had a population higher then 20 at some point and the maximum number of artifacts is not met. If all three of these conditions are true, the game may trigger a strange mood according to the frequency below.

=== Eligibility ===
Military and civilian dwarves, and children, may enter strange moods regardless of what skills they have. Dwarves who have created an artifact are not eligible to create another, and since every mood ends in either death or an artifact, every dwarf may enter at most one mood. Dwarves who have obtained one or more legendary skills without creating artifacts may enter strange moods. Appointed [[nobles]] may create artifacts, but immigrated nobles may not{{verify}}.

=== Maximum number of artifacts ===
The maximum number of artifacts in any one fortress is limited by the lower of:
* The number of items created divided by 200
* The number of revealed [[subterranean]] tiles divided by 2308 (this is an area equivalent to a 48x48 square).

=== Frequency ===
When a fortress is started, an internal counter is set to 1000. Around 11 or 12 times per day, this counter is decremented by 1. When the counter would ordinarily be decremented when it has already reached zero, there is a 1 in 500 chance that a strange mood will strike. This means there is approximately a 2.7% chance of a strange mood per day, and a 48.97% chance of a strange mood per month, when all conditions are met.

== Types ==
The first message in the following sections is how the mood is announced; the second message appears in the dwarf's profile when he or she is viewed with the {{K|v}} key. All moody dwarves will have "Strange Mood" listed as their active task.

=== Fey ===
* ''Taken by a fey mood!''
* ''Has the aspect of one fey!''

This is the most basic strange mood. Fey dwarves will clearly state their demands when the workshop they are in is examined.

=== Secretive ===
* ''Withdraws from society...''
* ''Peculiarly secretive...''

Secretive moods are the same as fey moods, except a secretive dwarf will sketch pictures of their required materials instead of clearly stating their demands.

=== Possessed ===
* ''Has been possessed!''
* ''Possessed by unknown forces!''

Possessed dwarves have cryptic material requests, and have the unfortunate distinction of not receiving any experience upon successful construction of an artifact. It is unknown if controllable circumstances lead to a possessed mood instead of one of the more desirable fey or secretive moods.

=== Fell ===
* ''Looses a roaring laughter, fell and terrible!''
* ''Has a horrible fell look!''

A dwarf that goes into a fell mood will always take over a [[butcher's shop]] or a [[tanner's shop]]. The dwarf will then ''murder'' the nearest dwarf, drag the corpse into the shop and make some sort of object out of dwarf [[leather]] or [[bone]]. Once the artifact is completed, the fell dwarf will become a legendary [[bone carver]] or [[leatherworker]]. Strangely, none of the other dwarves seem to mind the murder. Only unhappy dwarves may enter a fell mood.

Aside from the potential loss of an important dwarf in the wrong place at the wrong time, there doesn't seem to be any downside to a fell mood. The end result is always an artifact and a legendary craftsdwarf. Since the only ingredient used (a dwarf) is available in abundance, a fell mood will only fail if the fell dwarf is completely isolated from other dwarves, or if the proper workshop does not exist.

=== Macabre ===
* ''Begins to stalk and brood...''
* ''Brooding darkly...''

Macabre moods are similar to fell moods, but the dwarf will not murder a fellow dwarf. A macabre dwarf may require dwarf bones, skulls, and chunks/remains; if you do not happen to have any, you will have to "make" some, or let the moody dwarf go insane. Like fell moods, only unhappy dwarves can enter macabre moods.

== Skills and workshops ==
{| class="wikitable" cellpadding="4" style="border:1px solid black;border-collapse:collapse;text-align:left;float:right;margin:0 0 20px 30px;"
|-
! colspan="2" style="background-color:#eee;border-bottom:1px solid black;text-align:center;" | Artifact Skill Rewards
|-
! Highest skill
! Workshop used
|- style="border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;"
| [[Armorsmith]]
| [[Magma forge]] or [[Metalsmith's forge]]
|- style="border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;"
| [[Bonecarver]]
| [[Craftdwarf's workshop]]
|- style="border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;"
| [[Bowyer]]
| [[Bowyer's workshop]]
|- style="border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;"
| [[Carpenter]]
| [[Carpenter's workshop]]
|- style="border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;"
| [[Clothier]]
| [[Clothier's shop]]
|- style="border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;"
| [[Engraver]]
| [[Craftdwarf's workshop]] or [[Mason's workshop]]
|- style="border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;"
| [[Gem cutter]]
| [[Jeweler's workshop]]
|- style="border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;"
| [[Gem setter]]
| [[Jeweler's workshop]]
|- style="border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;"
| [[Glassmaker]]
| [[Glass furnace]] or [[Magma glass furnace]]
|- style="border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;"
| [[Leatherworker]]
| [[Leatherworks]]
|- style="border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;"
| [[Mason]]
| [[Mason's workshop]]
|- style="border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;"
| [[Mechanic]]
| [[Mechanic's workshop]]
|- style="border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;"
| [[Metal crafter]]
| [[Magma forge]] or [[Metalsmith's forge]]
|- style="border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;"
| [[Metalsmith (skill)|Metalsmith]]
| [[Magma forge]] or [[Metalsmith's forge]]
|- style="border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;"
| [[Miner]]
| [[Craftdwarf's workshop]] or [[Mason's workshop]]
|- style="border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;"
| [[Stone crafter]]
| [[Craftdwarf's workshop]]
|- style="border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;"
| [[Tanner]]
| [[Tanner's shop]] or [[Leather works]]
|- style="border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;"
| [[Weaponsmith]]
| [[Magma forge]] or [[Metalsmith's forge]]
|- style="border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;"
| [[Weaver]]
| [[Clothier's shop]]
|- style="border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;"
| [[Wood crafter]]
| [[Craftdwarf's workshop]]
|}

A dwarf will claim a workshop according to their highest applicable skill, and upon completion of the artifact, gain 20,000 experience in that skill (excepting possessed dwarves). This will give the dwarf a legendary-level skill and a number of attribute gains. The table to the right describes all applicable skills and their potential workshop requirements. When multiple workshops are listed, the dwarf may require one or the other, so ensure both are available, if possible. (i.e. if you have a magma forge, you may have to build a regular forge for him). If a dwarf does not possess one of the listed skills, they will take over a [[craftdwarf's workshop]] and gain one of the [[bonecarver]], [[stone crafter]], or [[wood crafter]] skills.

Skills which do not produce artifacts:

{|
|- style="vertical-align:top;"
| style="padding-right:30px;" |
* [[Animal caretaker]]{{Verify}}
* [[Animal dissector]]{{Verify}}
* [[Animal trainer]]
* [[Brewer]]
* [[Butcher]]{{Verify}}
* [[Cheese maker]]{{Verify}}
* [[Cook]]
* [[Dyer]]
* [[Fish cleaner]]
* [[Fish dissector]]{{Verify}}
* [[Fisherdwarf]]
* [[Furnace Operator]]
* [[Grower]]
* [[Herbalist]]{{Verify}}
* [[Lye maker]]{{Verify}}
|
* [[Milker]]{{Verify}}
* [[Miller]]
* [[Potash maker]]{{Verify}}
* [[Pump operator]]
* [[Siege engineer]]
* [[Siege operator]]{{Verify}}
* [[Soaper]]{{Verify}}
* [[Thresher]]
* [[Trapper]]{{Verify}}
* [[Wood cutter]]
* [[Wood burner]]
* All [[military]] skills
* All [[social skills]]

|}

This fact can be utilized to maximize the possibility of getting a dwarf with a legendary skill you want: where possible, make sure each dwarf's highest skill is one of those you want. Have all your peasants, growers, soldiers (you will have to temporarily deactivate them from the military), and other dwarves without skills do a tiny bit of work in the skill(s) you most want (Armorsmith is possibly the most-desired legendary skill); if a "dabbling" skill is the highest they have, that is the skill that will be used.

<br style="clear:both;" />

== Demands ==
Once a workshop is claimed, the dwarf will begin collecting materials. Each artifact will require between one and ten materials to complete. If the moody dwarf remains idle, then the necessary materials are not available. [[Forbidden]] items must be reclaimed ({{K|d}} - {{K|b}} - {{K|c}}) before they may be used, but moody dwarves will ignore settings regarding [[economic stone]]. Press {{K|q}} and highlight the workshop to receive a series of clues about what the dwarf needs. Hints that stay active for longer than about 2 seconds mean multiple pieces of that material will be required. Materials will always be fetched in order, so if at least one item has already been retrieved (the items will show up with "TSK" next to them when the workshop is viewed with the {{K|t}} context menu), it will usually be possible to tell what item is required next.

If a dwarf has a personality preference for a specific material, such as Bismuth or Steel, then that specific sub type of material may be required{{Verify}}, such as a [[diorite]] [[stone]], [[bronze]] [[bar]]s, or a specific type of raw [[gem]]. For this reason, it is usually a good idea to keep as many types of material on hand as possible, including raw and cut gems and the three different kinds of glass.

The various demands are translated here:

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:left;width:90%;"
|-
! Material
! Fey
! Secretive
! Possessed
|-
|
| <dwarf> screams "I must have <demand>!"
| <dwarf> sketches pictures of <demand>.
| <dwarf> mutters "<artifact> needs <demand>..."
|-
| [[Stone]]
| rock{{verify}}
| a quarry
| stone... rock
|-
| Stone [[block]]
| rock blocks
| square blocks
| blocks... bricks
|-
| [[Wood]]
| wood logs
| a forest
| tree... life
|-
| Metal [[bar]]
| metal bars
| shining bars of metal
| bars... metal
|-
| [[Gem]]s (cut)
| cut gems
| cut gems
| gems... shining
|-
| [[Gem]]s (raw)
| rough gems
| rough gems
| rough... color
|-
| [[Glass]] (green)
| raw green glass
| glass
| raw... green
|-
| [[Glass]] (clear)
| ?
| glass and burning wood
| raw... clear
|-
| [[Glass]] (crystal)
| ?
| rough gems and glass
| raw... crystal
|-
| [[Bone]]
| bones
| skeletons
| bones... yes
|-
| [[Shell]]
| shells
| a shell
| a shell...
|-
| [[Leather]]
| tanned hides
| stacked leather
| leather... skin
|-
| [[Cloth]] (plant)
| plant fiber cloth
| stacked cloth
| cloth... thread
|-
| [[Cloth]] (silk)
| silk cloth
| stacked cloth
| cloth... thread
|}

== Artifacts created ==
The type of artifact created will depend on the dwarf's highest skill. Masons will always create some kind of stone object, usually furniture; Bone Carvers, a bone or shell object; Carpenters, a wood object, etc. Miners and engravers will usually turn out a stone craft or piece of furniture; furnace operators, a metal craft or piece of furniture; Weavers, an article of clothing. The precise type of craft created is usually somewhat random but if a dwarf has a personality preference for a particular thing, such as gauntlets or crossbows, and that thing is an available choice given the dwarf's profession, he will generally create an object of that type.

The first object grabbed by the dwarf will be the "primary" substance; all other materials will be used to decorate the artifact. If a dwarf grabs onyx and makes a bed, for instance, it will be an "onyx bed", but an artifact can potentially be composed of bone, cloth, gems, leather, metal, shell, stone, and wood all at once. In some cases, glass makers will actually grab the nearest rough gem instead of a piece of raw glass, leading to such odd constructions as a [[Moss agate]] [[coffer]].

Once created, the [[artifact]] will be available for use just like a normal item of its type. Artifact furniture is useful for high value [[noble]] rooms, and weapons can be used to great effect in combat.

== Failure ==
If you can't provide all the required items within a couple of months, the dwarf will go insane and cancel the artifact. This [[insanity]] can take several forms:

* Become melancholy. The dwarf will either refuse to eat or drink until dead, or drown themselves at some point. They may also hurl themselves into the [[river]], [[chasm]], or [[magma]] immediately.
* Become a babbling wreck. A dwarf experiencing this will drop all the items he or she is wearing, one by one, and eventually starve to death.
* Go on a murderous rampage.

The first two outcomes are harmless (except to the moody dwarf, who will die), but you may want to station a squad nearby or assign a few war dogs to the dwarf on the chance that they will lash out. If you build your workshops inside enclosed rooms (with doors), you can also lock the moody dwarf in the room until he or she starves.

Anything that would cause the dwarf to cancel the strange mood job (like being attacked or having the workshop destroyed) will cause [[insanity]]. Note that the [[insanity]] can happen even when the dwarf is not deadlocked on an item; there have been observed instances where a dwarf goes insane while in the process of carrying a required item back to the commandeered workshop. Notably, giving birth while in a strange mood does not interrupt the dwarf; she will ignore the baby until her mood is resolved and it will wander off in the meantime.

40d Talk:Strange mood

2008-10-01T14:26:35Z

Otherdwarf:

Does the new version still have the strange mood? It wouldnt be complete without it!

:It still exists, I've had it happen several times now, I went to the archive wiki and copy/pasted the old page.

::Isnt that why the wiki was nuked? To make sure that no old info lingers? Ill put some "verify" in there, I dont think that the bold text is enough for users to understand that some of this may no longer apply. --[[User:Mizipzor|Mizipzor]] 06:03, 6 November 2007 (EST)

:::I agree. Although moods themselves don't seem to have been changed in this version, the changes to the stones/ores that they use means that some of the information in this article is no longer true. I'll have a go at cleaning it up when I have the proper time for it, but this wiki definitely needs a 'no copypasting from the archives' rule to avoid screwups like this. If people are going to copypaste old stuff, then it is downright irresponsible of them not to verify the accuracy of the information before committing it to the wiki. --[[User:Morlark|Morlark]]

I know, I was a huge fan of that little strange aspect of the old one.

I need my dwarfs to make more swordfish bone swords, and i still need some glass weapons/armor

The moods seem to have changed. One of my dwarfs went fey, made a nice hematite mug, and is now a legendary... Engraver. Very wierd, he also had no stoneworking or other craftdwarf skills. But he was a competent mason. This was also my fifth dwarf who took the same craftworkshop, so it's a bit strange. --[[User:Soyweiser|Soyweiser]] 17:36, 6 November 2007 (EST)

:Six fey dwarf, all took the craftdwarfshop, now my bowyer took one. Think it might be a bug. Is the 15 artifacts limit still in? --[[User:Soyweiser|Soyweiser]] 14:34, 8 November 2007 (EST)

:: Whohoo my second legendary engraver made a gold mug. My bowyer became a legendary engraver. --[[User:Soyweiser|Soyweiser]] 14:40, 8 November 2007 (EST)
::: Scratch all that, one of my woodworkers just used a carpenters shop. --[[User:Soyweiser|Soyweiser]] 07:45, 9 November 2007 (EST)

:Have you marked all statements in the article that risks being falsified with <nowiki>{{verify}}</nowiki>? --[[User:Mizipzor|Mizipzor]] 19:41, 6 November 2007 (EST)

Hey, I am getting a dwarf who wants "raw...crystal". Help? -- [[User:Bovinepro|Bovinepro]]
:Probably wants raw crystal glass. I had a dwarf ask for "raw...green", they wanted raw green glass. Looks like Toady might have moved the glass demands out of the "rough...color" category. [[User:Iddq?|Iddq?]]

About the engravers taking over craftdwarf's shops and becoming legendary engravers afterwards is quite true. I recently got a bunch of immigrants, and the engraver that came with them fell into a strange mood before even crossing the bridge on my river. He took over a craftdwarf's workshop and made a basalt scepter, and now he's legendary level in engraving. So yeah, perfect laboratory conditions, he was 100% engraver when he went into his mood and came out a legendary engraver. --[[User:Zhang5|Zhang5]] 17:07, 12 November 2007 (EST)

It seems that no craft skill is required. I just had a peasant go into a strange mood. His skills were: competent marksdwarf; novice wrestler; novice armor wearer. He grabbed a craftsdwarf's workshop and 10 items (3xFelsite, Schorls, Tigereyes, Red Beryls, Giant cave swallow leather, Grizzly Bear Leather, Rough harlequin opals and Ash logs -- guess he has expensive taste?) and churned out an idol in relatively short order. This is my 9th successful mood in this fortress, and I've seen requests for between 3 and 10 items, personally. Since they seem to be increasing in complexity, I've either hit the item cap, or I'm about to break ten :) [[User:Doctorlucky|Doctorlucky]] 16:34, 19 November 2007 (EST)
:This is consistent with older versions. Moody peasants would become crafters, and 10 items was the cap. The minimum was 1 item -- generally when constructing a "perfect gem".--[[User:Maximus|Maximus]] 16:55, 19 November 2007 (EST)

I had a miner go into a strange mood, take over a mason's workshop, and make a something that got him up to legendary miner status. In my current fort, I have had 6 artifacts made, 2 of which were actual moods and 5 of which were possessions (I can add, one of them failed and the dwarf became a babbling wreck). My dwarves love to use only one item: an oak door (1 item), an olivine coffin (2 items), a turtle shell mask (1 item and is my cheapest artifiact at 3600), a diorite amulet (3 items), and a perfect jelly opal (1 item). --[[User:Penguinofhonor|Penguinofhonor]] 18:47, 28 November 2007 (EST)

Where to add the info that in my game (.33c) a miner took over a mason's workshop, became legendary miner and then held the artifact in his right hand instead of a pick, which became 'hauled', then droped the pick and then took the pick with his left hand? He can mine after all these. While holding a 667 weight units cabinet in his right hand. --[[User:Another|Another]] 10:07, 1 December 2007 (EST)

I had dwarf Miller, profecienty Grower who had Fey Mood, and he became a Legendary Mason ....
Is it normal ? [[user:Feydreva|Feydreva]]

One of my dwarves has become possessed and is demanding cloth, bones and stone, which I have plenty of. But he refuses to go fetch them. Is there something I'm doing wrong?<small>—Preceding [[template:unsigned|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Patarak|Patarak]] ([[User talk:Patarak|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/Patarak|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}</small>
: They want either silk or fiber cloth. Make sure you have both! [[User:Bartavelle|Bartavelle]] 03:40, 21 January 2008 (EST)

Aargh! One of my dwarves went secretive and is demanding a huge list of stuff. He seems to be demanding two types of stone because the "sketches quarry" message stays on twice as long as the others. I have (and he has gathered) flint: is there any way to tell what kind of stone he wants? --[[User:Holyfool|Holyfool]] 011:55, 7 March 2008 (EST)

I had a Glassmaker that sat around when I had a lot of Magma Glass Furnaces, but then decided to get going when I made a regular Glass Furnace. Seems like they will only use a specific kind. Not sure yet if it's random. Might be they won't take the Magma Glass Furnace in version 38a. Can anyone verify? --[[User:Afbee|Afbee]] 05:07, 21 February 2008 (EST)

: My Glassmaker successfully used Magma Glass Furnace in a fey mood. --[[User:Digger|Digger]] 07:54, 24 February 2008 (EST)

==Maximum number of artifacts==
Well, I just got my umpteenth mood, and it resulted in the 16th successfully created artifact.(33b) So that 15 cap thing is clearly wrong. As it happens, this single artifact is worth 754,800, and is an adamantine spear decorated with, among other things, adamantine. For the record, in case this data is important to someone tabulating number of ingredients, my moods in order created the following objects using the corresponding number of ingredients: (Flute, 4; Mechanism, 4; Spear, 3; Millstone, 6; Ring, 8; Chest, 7; Cape, 7; Ring, 9; Statue, 8; Idol, 10; earring, 8; Buckler, 8; Table, 3; Mechanism, 10; Bracelet, 5; and Spear, 8). [[User:Doctorlucky|Doctorlucky]] 04:54, 27 November 2007 (EST)

Do fell/macabre moods still exist? I haven't seen any for quite a few versions. It'd be nice to have that verified.<small>—Preceding [[template:unsigned|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Rabek|Rabek]] ([[User talk:Rabek|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/Rabek|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}</small>

== clarification on "trade" skills ==

Are trade skills all the skills that produce items with some level of quality? Mainly I want to know if dyer is a trade skill. And how does that work with miner? I didn't think miner was a trade skill. Maybe someone who knows more than me could clarify in the wiki.
I just got my first artifact. It's worth 2400. The dwarf took one log and made a scepter. -[[User:Radtse|Radtse]]

:I don't know exactly, we should make a list of the skills we know are not trade skills. I'll start: my brewer/grower once got a strange mood and made a wood item and gained woodcrafting skill. Let's try to only add to the list when we have experienced a moody dwarf with that skill only.--[[User:Valdemar|Valdemar]] 19:36, 27 December 2007 (EST)

::I'm adding Weaver and Furnace Operator to this list, since they're on the wiki. I haven't seen them myself, but I'm assuming someone else has. Knowing that Furnace Operator is a "fey-able" skill will be quite helpful.-[[User:Radtse|Radtse]] 18:28, 29 December 2007 (EST)

:::Where's cooking fit in? --[[User:KittenyKat|KittenyKat]] 20:09, 6 January 2008 (EST)

List of non-trade skills:

* [[Brewer]]
* [[Grower]]
* [[Miller]]
* [[Wood Cutter]]

Skills that may be used and gained by dwarves with no trade skills:

* [[Wood crafter]]
* [[Stone crafter]]

Skills that use a different skill(See list above), but give correct skill:

* [[Miner]]
* [[Engraver]]
* [[Furnace Operator]]
* [[Weaver]]

:::For the record, i can confirm both Furnace Operator and Weaver, since no one else has commented to verify them thus far. (The weaver actually surprised me when it happened). --[[User:Squirrelloid|Squirrelloid]] 01:43, 29 April 2008 (EDT)

:::I can confirm that a Miner will claim a Mason's shop, and produce a stone item, even with no Mason skill at all. It works just like the wiki says. --[[User:Strangething|Strangething]] 23:47, 31 May 2008 (EDT)

:::And I can confirm that Wood Cutter does not contribute -- I had a Novice Glassmaker/No Prefix Wood Cutter take a glass furnace. [[User:Slitherrr|Slitherrr]] 13:48, 28 July 2008 (EDT)

== mood condition ==
The 20 dwarves / no crazy stuff has been found while looking at the binary of v0.27.169.33d, might be different now, but i don't think so. [[User:Bartavelle|Bartavelle]] 15:08, 2 January 2008 (EST)

Regarding the calulations for required maximum existing artifacts (items/200 and dugout/(48*48)) wouldn't it make more sense to either use the squared symbol, or the actual result of that square (which was the original number actually discovered/revealed I believe)? --[[User:N9103|Edward]] 19:17, 28 April 2008 (EDT)
:<su<b></b>p>2</su<b></b>p> --[[User:GreyMario|GreyMario]] 21:28, 28 April 2008 (EDT)

:20 dorf must be still there. I've made low-population fort and I had no mood for ~8 years (from start). I'm sure that I've digged at least 2700 tiles and created at least 300 items. I will test if raising population to 20 will cause moods. I think that 20 dwarf limit should be mentioned even if it's not confirmed. --[[User:Someone-else|Someone-else]] 18:30, 26 May 2008 (EDT)

== Random Workshop Seizure ==

I just had a gem cutter seize a carpenter's workshop and make a perfect gem; upon completion I had a worthless Legendary dwarf and a new jeweler's workshop, so I guess that's still in from the previous version. I've removed the verify in the article. [[User:Tacroy|Tacroy]] 16:51, 9 January 2008 (EST)

:nonsense. Should be a bigger chance of making ZOMG high-quality gem crafts now ;) --[[User:Frostedfire|Frostedfire]] 07:35, 18 February 2008 (EST)

::More to the point, if you don't like the profession your dwarf has Legendary in...draft for the stats! --[[User:Alfador|Alfador]] 12:16, 18 February 2008 (EST)

== forbidden items ==

Do moody dwarfs use forbidden items? Will they demand forbid items? [[User:Diabl0658|Diabl0658]] 02:07, 21 February 2008 (EST)

:I don't know whether moody dwarves will use forbidden items (my guess would be they won't). But they don't choose the demands based on what is on the map, they can and do demand things you don't have. So it's safe to assume forbidding doesn't prevent dwarves from demanding the forbidden kind of item. --[[User:BahamutZERO|BahamutZERO]] 16:31, 13 May 2008 (EDT)

::Forbidden items are not used. Similarly, if your mooder slipped in e.g. an iron bar when you wanted him to use a platinum bar, you can forbid AND dump the item to stop him from using it. --[[User:GreyMario|GreyMaria]] 16:35, 13 May 2008 (EDT)

== Impossible Requests? ==
Will dwarves try to use items that you just don't have access to? I had a dwarf asking for silk when I haven't imported any and I'm pretty sure there isn't a giant spider anywhere. Also asking for "rocks" when I have mined at least one of each type of rock that is visible (requiring rocks from unmined areas seem pretty harsh). Also a request for "metal bars" when I have smeltered at least one of each ore I have found and made at least one of each possible alloy. [[User:Yvain|Yvain]] 23:27, 26 February 2008 (EST)
:Yeah, impossible stuff is all my dwarves ever want. :-P Right now mine appears to want stone I don't have, and no traders have come by with any stone.... So my guys are frantically mining in various directions.... [[User:Holyfool|Holyfool]] 13:59, 7 March 2008 (EST)

::As far as i can tell they never request anything it is truly impossible for you to get. Available by trade seems to imply possible for the game engine though. Too bad if its the start of winter (which is when all my moods which require things I don't have and can't produce happen, of course). But if there's no sand on your map at all you will not be asked for glass, since you can't trade for sand. (If there's 5 tiles of sand under that underground lake you haven't found yet... sucks to be you - my first fortress lost 3 dwarves to this). So yes, requiring things present on the map that you haven't found yet appears to be possible and routine. --[[User:Squirrelloid|Squirrelloid]] 01:48, 29 April 2008 (EDT)

== Procastinator! ==

I just had a moody dwarf demand bones, wood, rocks, and cloth.

He got the rocks okay, and then did nothing for ages. Then, as soon as the fire imp corpse rotted away, he ran down and got the bones, then ran over to my wood stockpile and got a piece of wood...

Do they need to get their ingredients in order now?--[[User:Shadow archmagi|Shadow archmagi]] 06:28, 29 February 2008 (EST)
:i think so, not that it matters, he wont start unless he has ALL the ingridents.

== gems ==
My moody dwarf asked for 2 kinds of rough gems, but i had cut all rough ones at that point. So i "printed out" all layers and started checking for leftover gems in the walls. Guess what, he picked the first 2 kinds i mined. So either

* random/pure luck (don't think so)
* they only ask what they "see"
* they only ask what is somehow on the map
* or they might even adapt somewhat to availability, but i doubt that. --[[User:Koltom|Koltom]] 15:59, 28 March 2008 (EDT)

:I believe, but don't know for sure, that sometimes they want specific items and sometimes they just want anything in a category of items, such as any rough gems in this case. It used to work that way in the 2d version, didn't it? --[[User:BahamutZERO|BahamutZERO]] 12:23, 14 May 2008 (EDT)
::Confirming behaviour that BahamutZERO sees. Dwarves will '''always''' grab the closest object that falls under the category unless he is requesting a specific metal, specific silk, or specific plant fiber cloth. --[[User:GreyMario|GreyMaria]] 14:25, 14 May 2008 (EDT)

== Just standing around? ==

I have a dwarf who was possessed, but won't leave the main hall. He's also a novice in everything, but to be safe I've already cleared the shops. It's winter of my first year, but somehow I've already had 2 waves of immigrants. Back to the point, I'm afraid he's going to wait out the mood and go berserk. Help?
--[[User:Ilmmad|Ilmmad]] 20:00, 6 March 2008 (EST)
:Well, make sure u ve got one workshop of every possible kind available - there are however quite a few u dont need to build, its covered in the article. Check for locked doors or otherwise blocked access (bridges, channels, statues..) Dont forget furnaces, glass and magma. Check with 'q' if all workshops are completely build. If it doesnt help consider building workshops not related to his skills, or more "exotic" ones, like Ashery or Alchemist. No one can guarantee that Toady didnt have some new fun ideas ;) --[[User:Koltom|Koltom]] 22:59, 6 March 2008 (EST)

== stark raving suicide ==

My mechanic wanted silk cloth, which I didn't have, and eventually gone insane ("stark raving mad" to be precise).
Seconds after that I had message that he died in heat (I had artificial magma pool nearby).
He probably jumped into the pool like in melancholy. Main article states that only melancholic dwarves kill themselves in such way.
Could anyone confirm that mad ones do that too, and this wasn't just an accident/bug? [[User:Someone-else|Someone-else]] 16:59, 19 April 2008 (EDT)

:Perhaps it ''was'' an accident -- I seem to recall that "stark raving mad" ones wander around at random. Perhaps it wandered into the lava. [[User:Anydwarf|Anydwarf]] 18:30, 19 April 2008 (EDT)

== Glassmaker with no glass ==

I had an immigrant glassworker get a mood, seize a glass workshop, and created an artifact made entirely of gemstones. No glass involved or asked for. (No sand on the map, anyway.) He turned into a Legendary Glassworker, despite having never made a glass anything.

== Rewrite ==

I think I got most of the old information and then some into the new article. Please make any necessary modifications. --[[User:Marble Dice|Marble Dice]] 01:22, 10 May 2008 (EDT)

== Silk Cloth ==

I had a dwarf demand silk cloth, but he refused to use my giant cave spider silk cloth. I didn't have any regular cave spider silk cloth. To verify that the silk was the problem, I used Companion to change the silk demand to any stone, and he immediately collected the rest of the materials and constructed the artifact.
Can anyone else confirm that giant cave spider silk cloth does '''not''' count as silk cloth? --[[User:Doniazade|Doniazade]] 08:55, 13 May 2008 (EDT)
:No, I'm pretty sure I can't. I've seen a dwarf grab GCS silk.<br>Could it be that you had thread and not cloth? --[[User:GreyMario|GreyMaria]] 13:59, 13 May 2008 (EDT)
::Nope, giant cave spider cloth [3] sorted under cloth on the stock screen. --[[User:Doniazade|Doniazade]] 16:52, 13 May 2008 (EDT)
Probably they may specifically require GCS silk or specifically require CS silk. —[[User:Chaos|Chaos]] 14:10, 13 May 2008 (EDT)
I figured it out - the silk was outside and I had accidentally left "Dwarves Stay Inside" on after the latest attack. --[[User:Doniazade|Doniazade]] 08:52, 14 May 2008 (EDT)

== Engineer taken by secretive mood, and creates... ==

Evidently engineers who are taken by a secretive mood ("withdraws from society", in case it's later determined that the descriptor has an effect) will have no problems taking over the mechanic's workshop. And there's only one thing mechanic-shops build - that's right, you heard right, ladies and gentlemen, I present ''Kodor ós: A claystone mechanism''. It's even available for use from the appropriate {{k|b}})uild screens. He decided to make this splendid 86,400o creation while on an eight-mechanism binge in that very same mechanic's workshop. Maybe dwarves choose the workshop they've been in the most often? --[[User:BismuthBismuthBismuth|BismuthBismuthBismuth]] 15:31, 13 May 2008 (EDT)

:Ah, actually I can confirm I've had a Mechanic create an artifact mechanism as well. Stick some obsidian swords in that baby and you'll be good to go! That should probably go in the main article for skills vs workshops... I would expect siege engineers also have strange moods, but I imagine pump op and siege op fall under the general craftsman catch-all --[[User:Marble Dice|Marble Dice]] 15:45, 13 May 2008 (EDT)
::I'd like to smack BismuthBismuthBismuth with the facts stated in the article.
A dwarf will claim a workshop according to their highest applicable skill
::In this case it was Engineering and therefore your mechanic went to a Mechanic's Workshop. It's the same with the possessed glassmakers. They hit a glassmaker's shop. --[[User:GreyMario|GreyMaria]] 15:49, 13 May 2008 (EDT)
:::I'd like to hit GreyMario-Maria, preferably in the upper-body region, with the fact that at the time of my post, the table in the article did not mention mechanics whatsoever. --[[User:BismuthBismuthBismuth|BismuthBismuthBismuth]] 22:26, 13 May 2008 (EDT)
::::Pardon me, but I was not aware that ''mechanics'' worked at a ''mechanic's workshop'', where objects are created that have ''quality mofidiers'' and can thus become ''artifacts''. --[[User:GreyMario|GreyMaria]] 23:28, 13 May 2008 (EDT)
:::::Pardon me as well, but it seems that the table in [http://www.dwarffortresswiki.net/index.php?title=Strange_mood&oldid=25231 this particular revision] did not encapsulate this information. '''GreyMario is throwing a tantrum!''' --[[User:BismuthBismuthBismuth|BismuthBismuthBismuth]] 15:22, 14 May 2008 (EDT)
::::::Mechanics. Work at a mechanic's workshop. Produce items which have visible quality modifiers. Items with visible quality modifiers are eligible to be artifacts. THEREFORE, mechanics claim mechanic's workshops when they go fey. Seriously, logic sometimes, please? --[[User:GreyMario|GreyMaria]] 15:30, 14 May 2008 (EDT)
:::::::That would follow if we knew for certain that the proposition "items with visible quality modifiers are eligible to artifacts" is necessarily true. We don't. For instance, siege engine components are <i>not</i> verified as artifact eligible. Since that isn't a given, it's perfectly reasonable for people to not jump to the conclusion that a job type will create artifacts relevant to it until they see it happen. —[[User:Chaos|Chaos]] 16:26, 14 May 2008 (EDT)

i love the absurd randomness factor with artifacts - you end up with really weird stuff. like grates, and socks. a question pertinent to legendary mechanisms - i got a stupidly valuable one of these as the first legendary item in a new fort and i used it to create a gear assembly in a public dining area in the hopes that it would give dwarves happy thoughts, but after a few years gametime of checking randomly on them nothing particular showed up. any particular use along these lines for legendary mechanisms for something other then simple fortress value? --[[User:FruityBix|FruityBix]] 11:51, 10 September 2008 (EDT)
: weapon traps! --[[User:Bartavelle|Bartavelle]] 12:03, 10 September 2008 (EDT)
:: FWIW, that might be a more general answer for artifact items... I had a Weaponsmith dwarf go into a strange mood and create a lead warhammer (Yes, there was plenty of steel and iron around, but this dwarf likes lead, I guess). It can't be equipped as a weapon (lead isn't a valid material type normally for constructing weapons) but I can put it into a weapons trap. Which... is basically the only thing I can do with this 65000* artifact... -[[User:Fuzzy|Fuzzy]] 14:37, 10 September 2008 (EDT)
::: Actually, artifact equipment can be used, it just requires a "hero" level dwarf or higher. However, for the nonstandard material weapons and armor you may do well to forbid them so that they're not used. The actual effectiveness of odd material artifacts is supposedly lower than that of decent iron or steel equipment, and artifact equipment cannot be unequipped once a dwarf decides to use it. --[[User:Janus|Janus]] 15:36, 10 September 2008 (EDT)

== Tanner fixed ==

I just had a Tanner claim a leather works, not a tannery. I updated the table. For the record, the dwarf has no skill level in leather working.

:I wonder if Tanners even claim Tanner's shops? Tanner's shops just make leather, and leather doesn't have quality modifiers, so you shouldn't be able to produce an artifact from one, aye? That information came from an older version of the page, I wonder if it was inaccurate. Weavers supposed claim Clothier's shops and not Looms, so it would make sense if Tanners were the same way. --[[User:Marble Dice|Marble Dice]] 18:08, 2 June 2008 (EDT)

== Cooks ==

I can confirm that cooks do not produce artifacts: my Peasant with Dabbling Cook/Brewer/(various social) and nothing else just took over a Craftsdwarf's Workshop. I'm removing the verify tag for cooks in the article. --[[User:Comonad|Comonad]] 16:16, 2 August 2008 (EDT)

mmmm. . . . artifact roast. [[User:Mirthmanor|Mirthmanor]] 19:12, 4 August 2008 (EDT)

== Soapers etc. ==

It stands to reason that soapers, lye makers, and wood burners wouldn't make artifacts. Neither soap, lye, charcoal, nor ash have quality modifiers, and that's all those skills can produce. I'm pretty sure you can't have artifact soap, lye, charcoal, or ash. --[[User:Tachyon|Tachyon]] 20:26, 11 August 2008 (EDT)

: My woodburner just got possessed. He wants a shell and wood. I have the shell but I'm not sure what type of wood he wants. --[[User:Ehertlein|Ehertlein]] 20:18, 22 August 2008 (EDT)

== Not all demands need to be met ==

I just had a dwarf taken by a secretive mood and collect a huge variety of things: 4 stone, 1 block, 1 gem, 2 rough gems, bones, a shell, 2 leather. He was further sketching for more bones, 2 leather, another stone, a log, another shell, and raw green glass. The only things I didn't have on hand were the shell and the green glass -- dwarves seem to go through their list in order, and get stuck on certain items.

I just hoped someone would eat a turtle (50/1678 chance!) and queued a raw green glass. When the glass was made, he got started, totally ignoring his previous requests for wood, another shell, and the other things. Anyone else have this experience? [[User:Mirthmanor|Mirthmanor]] 13:28, 13 August 2008 (EDT)

:I think they keep sketching images even after they get the items. Your dwarf already had all of the shells, leather, bones, stones, blocks, and gems he needed. [[User:Curudan|Curudan]] 15:26, 22 August 2008 (EDT)

::This is correct. I've had dwarves run out, grab two items, and then sit at the Workshop shouting a need for three items. When the item he was waiting on became available, he ran out, grabbed it, went back in, and started working. So it's pretty evident that they list ALL of the items they want, regardless of how many of them they've already collected. --[[User:Nekojin|Nekojin]] 22:28, 23 August 2008 (EDT)

== Possession ==

I've had 14 moods in my current Fortress, 11 of them have been possessions. Am I really unlucky, or is the type of mood weighted? [[User:HeWhoIsPale|HeWhoIsPale]] 09:55, 26 August 2008 (EDT)
: As far as I can tell by looking at the game logic, each mood types are as likely to be rolled (except fell of course, which is selected if happiness<rand(128) or something like that). --[[User:Bartavelle|Bartavelle]] 07:56, 3 September 2008 (EDT)
:: I had a feeling I was just getting really unlucky, thanks. [[User:HeWhoIsPale|HeWhoIsPale]] 14:34, 3 September 2008 (EDT)

== Furnace Operator ==
Apparently furnace operator is no longer a mood skill as of df 28 181 40d. I just had a expert furnace operator take over a Craftdwarf's Workshop and become a legendary stonecrafter. [[User:Otherdwarf|Otherdwarf]] 10:26, 1 October 2008 (EDT)

40d Talk:Exploratory mining

2008-03-25T21:04:00Z

Otherdwarf:

This is a guide on how to search for valuable materials by mining.<br>
...why is there any use for it? --[[User:Savok|Savok]] 18:52, 13 March 2008 (EDT)

:I think it's useful. The need for more resources, unless you're extremely lucky in the beginning, is not satisfied by the fort's initial digging efforts or its natural expansion. This usually leads to the need to dig in order to reveal large areas, and more often not, the most intuitive method the player thinks up is not the most efficient for their situation. Mining labor, being pretty scarce even for a medium sized fortress, shouldn't be squandered by using an inefficient method, especially if you want fast results.
:--[[User:AlienChickenPie|AlienChickenPie]] 04:13, 14 March 2008 (EDT)

::Mining labor? Scarce? O.o.
::Grab a few peasant immigrants (or miner immigrants if you get any - they come with picks), get picks for them, and start them mining. If you mine out a significant area (like, "enough that you want more than two miners") you'll have legendary miners within a year.
::But alright. I do agree that efficiency in exploratory mining is useful, since without it you ruin the area and get lots of useless stone. However, I argue that this article states things that should not be in a manual of any sort: We don't tell you how to make your fortress. We tell you what happens when X happens and we tell you what to do to get Y.
::But you still disagree, I assume? Alright. If it really is bad, the article will get deleted/shrunk/merged. If it isn't, we should do it right.
::<nowiki>*brings out the umkey*</nowiki>
::--[[User:Savok|Savok]] 10:18, 14 March 2008 (EDT)

:::I see what you're getting at, it would definitely be wrong to state design tips as facts or tell people how to build their fortress.
:::However, this article is intended to be a technical guide to mining methods, not a style guide. I'd like to make it as neutral and factual as possible.
:::Going over it again, I noticed that parts of it are written inappropriately for a technical article. For example, the usability part definitely steps quite a bit over the line, and I wouldn't mind seeing it removed or altered to contain only necessary facts.
:::--[[User:AlienChickenPie|AlienChickenPie]] 14:10, 14 March 2008 (EDT)

== Proposal: Diagonal pattern ==

Would it be useful to add this pattern?
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* Labor: 20% of the tiles are excavated.
* Scarcity: Any scarcity. Clusters as small as a single tile are revealed.
* Visibility: 100%.
* Reusability: With a bit of imagination you can build nice 3x3 rooms

I usually dig a diagonal squares with the sides 25 tiles long. And use this pattern later. (See Minepoint at map archive). It shows (almost) every vein...[[User:Dorten|Dorten]] 09:16, 14 March 2008 (EDT)

:I fixed the formatting. Hope you don't mind. --[[User:Savok|Savok]] 10:18, 14 March 2008 (EDT)

::Not at all. I was hoping that someone would come over and give it a proper wiki makeover.
::As for the layout, It's incredibly good. It's superior to the rows layout in every way, and it's less work intensive than the 7X7 block layout while giving full visibility.
::Comparing all the layouts gave me an idea- We could group all the block layouts into a single block layout, seeing as they are all very similar and related. Different characters would denote different phases in the digging process. Then, we could introduce the block layout as modular, the diagonal layout as efficient and the hollow layout as thorough. I have half a mind to scrap the row layout altogether, seeing as it's pretty inferior.
::--[[User:AlienChickenPie|AlienChickenPie]] 14:33, 14 March 2008 (EDT)

:::Actually, I was talking to Dorten - I fixed his formatting.
:::Anyway, the row layout does have one advantage: It gets all tiles and can be designated relatively quickly. I would hate to designate the diagonal layout for a whole z-level.
:::Additionally, row layouts are actually more efficient than block layouts, per tiles dug, although they might not catch a vein running in parallel to them. --[[User:Savok|Savok]] 18:45, 14 March 2008 (EDT)

::::Macros help there a lot. Have you seen MinePoint? It was pretty quick.[[User:Dorten|Dorten]] 01:38, 18 March 2008 (EDT)

:::::No. What is it? --[[User:Savok|Savok]] 14:35, 18 March 2008 (EDT)

== Proposal: Real mining shafts ==

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* Labor: 11.1% of the tiles are excavated.
* Scarcity: Any scarcity. Clusters as small as a single tile are revealed.
* Visibility: 100%.

You'll have to have a floor above it with tunnels to the stairs to go down, but after that floor, this provides maximum possible efficiency. --[[User:Savok|Savok]] 23:53, 14 March 2008 (EDT)

:This actually has an 11.1% Labor Efficiency. An added bonus is that it's easy to make into square rooms of various sizes, the stairways can be removed and used as doorways, or just carved out as part of the rooms. It really is similar to the rows method, except turned on end each mined tile exposes 8 tiles, instead of 2. Instead of scattered tiles I'd call it mine shafts, though. [[User:Basilisk|Basilisk]] 16:38, 20 March 2008 (EDT)

::Erm. Oops. I'm usually better at math than that. *hurriedly fixes error* --[[User:Savok|Savok]] 14:54, 21 March 2008 (EDT)

: this pattern is a a lot of work to designate, so I created a ahk script to speed it up, hope no one minds the link.--[[User:Otherdwarf|Otherdwarf]] 17:04, 25 March 2008 (EDT)

40d:Exploratory mining

2008-03-25T21:01:43Z

Otherdwarf: added link to ahk script

Exploratory mining is the process of mining large areas in order to obtain resources such as [[gems]], [[metal]] [[ores]] and other types of [[stone|rock]]. It is also used, to a lesser extent, to find the locations of hidden underground features such as [[chasm]]s, [[underground river]]s, [[magma]] and [[adamantine]].
The most straightforward method is to mark a large rectangular area for digging. Unfortunately, this method is also the least efficient. More efficient digging patterns involve digging out a smaller percentage of the stone in a given area, but still revealing a large percentage of the stone. These patterns are compromises, which depend on factors that will be described in this article.
Note that exploratory mining is the process dedicated solely to discovery of resources and features. The digging process is usually separated, and not discussed here in great detail.
The [[cheating]] counterpart to exploratory mining is the infamous [[utilities#reveal.exe|reveal]] tool.

== Factors in exploratory mining ==

These are the factors we shall consider for each digging pattern. Knowing them and deciding on their priority will help you find the most suitable pattern.
Most of the factors are represented by numbers, obtained by dividing two quantities. Others are more subjective.

=== Labor ===

''Labor'' is the amount of work that goes into the digging process. Exploratory mining is a work intensive process, capable of straining even a large fortress, but the work that goes into different patterns varies greatly. A fortress with a large supply of skilled miners can afford to consider labor low priority. The labor factor is the fraction of stone dug out of an area, and as such, it's a percentage, between 0 and 100%.

=== Scarcity ===

''Scarcity'' is the amount of desired material present in the rock layer. It's theoretically represented by the fraction of desired material in the soil layer, but one can seldom state it accurately or even estimate it. Scarcity is determined by the types of materials you're after. Single tiles are the scarcest, followed by small clusters, veins and large clusters. For the classification of your desired material, see the [[gem]] and [[stone]] articles. Underground features are about as scarce as large clusters.

=== Visibility ===

''Visibility'' is the amount of tiles that you reveal in the digging process. Excavated tiles are always visible, and so are the tiles immadiately adjacent to them, including diagonals. The purpose of exploratory mining is to make a single tile of the desired material visible, allowing you to switch to conventional digging and extract it. Visibility is represented by the fraction of visible tiles in the excavated area. Visibility is always a priority, but it tends to decrease in priority as scarcity decreases, because there are more tiles that need to be dug out, and not just seen.

=== Reusability ===

Exploratory mining leaves behind a monotonous, repeating landscape. The excavated level may be hard to reuse for habitation, storage or industry without additional digging and significant rebuilding efforts that leave behind inferior walls that cannot be engraved. Reusability is subjective, and it depends on the desired layout. Reusability is represented by the largest room size achievable by digging into the solid rock left behind without rebuilding any walls. Reusability is a priority for a small fortress.

== What you are looking for ==

[[Ore]] occurs in three forms, depending on the kind:

* Large cluster: An oval that occupies nearly half of a 48x48 block, area-wise. Only one appears per block.
* Vein: A sinuous line of the material crosses the block.
* Small cluster: A sprinkle of 5 to 10 adjacent tiles. Multiple small clusters of different materials may be in the same block.

== Patterns ==

Patterns are represented by a unit tile. This unit tile is repeated throughout the area intended for excavation to create the desired pattern. Each pattern is analyzed with the above factors in mind.

Key:
░ = Not mined, not visible
▒ = Not mined, visible (wall)
. = Mined (floor)

=== Hollow ===

All tiles are excavated.

* ''Labor'': 100% of the tiles are excavated.
* ''Scarcity'': Any scarcity. If it exists in the layer, it will be found.
* ''Visibility'': 100% of the tiles are visible, obviously.
* ''Reusability'': Approaches zero. Any design other than a large hall requires reconstruction.
* ''Bottom line'': Hollowing wastes labor like there's no tomorrow, but integrates extraction into the exploratory mining process. Use only if you have a lot of labor to spare, really need huge amounts of stone and don't mind the reconstruction required to make the hollow area habitable.

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* ''Labor'': 1/3 (~33%) of the tiles are excavated.
* ''Scarcity'': Any scarcity. Clusters as small as a single tile are revealed.<br />
* ''Visibility'': 100%.
* ''Reusability'': Very low. The long corridors aren't very useful, and can only be expanded to long, wide corridors.
* ''Bottom line'': This method achieves the same visibility as hollowing out, but using a mere third of the labor. Ideal for hunting single-tile gems. As an added bonus, this method achieves a visibility to labor ratio of 3:1, which, among those with 100% visibility, is second only to a diagonal design. In all ways, it it more efficient than a 3×3 design.

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* ''Labor'': 20% of the tiles are excavated.
* ''Scarcity'': Any scarcity. Clusters as small as a single tile are revealed.
* ''Visibility'': 100%.
* ''Reusability'': With a bit of imagination you can build nice 3x3 rooms
* ''Bottom line'': This method is the most efficient for those with 100% visibility, which doesn't use other levels to move from one spot to another but is annoying to designate.

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* ''Labor'': 11.1% of the tiles are excavated (1/9).
* ''Scarcity'': Any scarcity. Clusters as small as a single tile are revealed.
* ''Visibility'': 100%.
* ''Reusability'': It's easy to make into square rooms of various sizes, the stairways can be removed and used as doorways, or just carved out as part of the rooms.
* ''Bottom line'': You'll need to clear part of one layer above it to get it started, but this method is the most efficient for those with 100% visibility, and has a great reuse value. Real dwarves' choice! It takes a lot of keypressing to designate, [[Mineshaft.ahk|here]] is a ahk script to save your fingers

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* ''Labor'': 15/64 (~23%) of the tiles are excavated.
* ''Scarcity'': Veins and up, as the large 5X5 space left in each unit tile can easily conceal a small cluster.
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* ''Reusability'': Medium. The 7×7 blocks can easily be converted into 5×5 rooms, suitable for individual rooms, storage or workshops. Easily converted into a more thorough 3×3 block patten by digging through the large blocks.
* ''Bottom line'': This is a low-labor method great for vein-hunting. The low labor cost puts you in a position to invest more and get better coverage if desired.

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* ''Labor'': 31/256 (~12%) of the tiles are excavated.
* ''Scarcity'': Large clusters and up, as the large 13×13 space left in each unit tile can easily conceal quite a lot.
* ''Visibility'': 87/256 (34%) of the tiles are visible.
* ''Reusability'': High. A 15×15 block of solid rock is extremely versatile when it comes to interior design. It's easily converted into a 7×7 block design, which may be further converted into a 3×3 block design.
* ''Bottom line'': This method is preferable when you are low on labor or when you're after an underground feature. It can easily accommodate parts of your fort, or serve as the precursor for a more thorough search.

[[Category:Guides]]

User:Otherdwarf

2008-03-25T20:47:40Z

Otherdwarf: Replacing page with 'My talk page'

My talk page

User:Otherdwarf

2008-03-25T20:30:20Z

Otherdwarf:

My talk page

an autohotkey script for exploratory mineshafts:

<br clear="both" />
;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
; mineshaft.ahk ;
; this is a ahk script to place exploratory mine shafts. ;
; press d and place the cursor ;
; in the top right corner of the area to be explored ;
; then use ctrl+s to run ;
; ;
; NOTE: ;
; change variables x, y and depth to suit your conditions ;
;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;

x = 2 ;number of shafts to be placed in the x and y axis
y = 2
depth = 14 ;depth of each shaft (number of levels to be explored below current level)

^s::
loop %x%{
loop %y%{
Send j ;select down stair
Send {Enter}
Send {Enter} ;place it
Send i ;select up-down stair
Send +. ;down(one level)
Loop % depth-1{ ;change here if other fort
Send {Enter}
Send {Enter} ;place the stair
Send +. ;down (one level)
}
Send u ;select upward stair
Send {Enter}
Send {Enter} ;place it
loop %depth%{ ;move to original level
Send +, ;up (one level)
}
Send {down}
Send {down}
Send {down}
}
loop %y%{
Send {up}
Send {up}
Send {up}
}
Send {right}
Send {right}
Send {right}
}
return

User:Otherdwarf

2008-03-25T20:25:52Z

Otherdwarf:

User:Otherdwarf

2008-03-25T19:38:56Z

Otherdwarf: added script

My talk page

an autohotkey script for exploratory mineshafts:

<blockquote>
;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
; mineshaft.ahk ;
; this is a ahk script to place exploratory mine shafts. ;
; press d and place the cursor ;
; in the top right corner of the area to be explored ;
; then use ctrl+s to run ;
; ;
; NOTE: ;
; change variables x, y and depth to suit your conditions ;
;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;

x = 2 ;number of shafts to be placed in the x and y axis
y = 2
depth = 14 ;depth of each shaft (number of levels to be explored below current level)

^s::
loop %x%{
loop %y%{
Send j ;select down stair
Send {Enter}
Send {Enter} ;place it
Send i ;select up-down stair
Send +. ;down(one level)
Loop % depth-1{ ;change here if other fort
Send {Enter}
Send {Enter} ;place the stair
Send +. ;down (one level)
}
Send u ;select upward stair
Send {Enter}
Send {Enter} ;place it
loop %depth%{ ;move to original level
Send +, ;up (one level)
}
Send {down}
Send {down}
Send {down}
}
loop %y%{
Send {up}
Send {up}
Send {up}
}
Send {right}
Send {right}
Send {right}
}
return
</blockquote>

User:Otherdwarf

2008-03-25T18:31:11Z

Otherdwarf: New page: My talk page To be added: ahk script for exploratory mine shafts

My talk page

To be added:
ahk script for exploratory mine shafts

40d Talk:Sweet pod

2007-11-08T13:36:42Z

Otherdwarf:

no mention of dwarven rum? --[[User:Moller|Moller]] 03:44, 2 November 2007 (EDT)

Ha, my appologies on that one. I checked my list of alcohol for quarry bushes/leaves, but didn't for sweet pods! How forgetful of me, maybe I should get to bed before I either forget something else, or make a massive collection of typos (I'm having trouble, you just can't tell).--[[User:Draco18s|Draco18s]] 03:49, 2 November 2007 (EDT)

Does milling into sugar really give 5 sugar/pod? I always thought it was Milling: 1 food/pod vs. Syrup: 5 food/pod? [[User:Otherdwarf|Otherdwarf]] 08:36, 8 November 2007 (EST)

40d:Stairs

2007-10-30T22:59:44Z

Otherdwarf: removed unsupported statement

'''Stairs''' allow [[dwarves]] and other creatures to travel up and down. [[Ramp]]s most likely operate in the same fashion and so most advice here should apply to both.

== Constructing Stairs ==

In order for stairs to be usable, you must construct stairs on both levels you wish to connect (An up stair connecting to a down stair). However, a Down or Up stair will give you sufficient access to the adjacent level to build connecting stairs. This means you can dig directly downwards or even directly upwards using stairs without needing any other forms of access to the area.

Using an Up/Down stair (Which goes both up and down on the same tile) you can dig a straight vertical shaft.

Only upstairs can currently be removed through the designation menu but a new floor can be built over a downstairs to effectively remove them.

40d Talk:Stairs

2007-10-30T22:58:34Z

Otherdwarf:

Looks to me like the "remove down stairs" option is missing. But if you rewall it ([b] - [C] - [w]), and then designate it for "Remove Construction" ([d] - [n]), that works to get rid of it. Or just rewall it and leave it as a wall. --Peristarkawan 20:44, 29 October 2007 (EDT)

It seems that building an up/down stairway is the easiest way to build underground. --Vbraun 21:06, 29 October 2007 (EDT)

I'm betting that dwarves can traverse ramps faster than stairs, but I haven't tested this yet. --Peristarkawan 21:18, 29 October 2007 (EDT)

I initially tried creating a ramp to dig upwards, and my miner refused to dig further on the upper level. Stairs work fine.--[[User:McFrugal|McFrugal]] 02:19, 30 October 2007 (EDT)

<blockquote>Logs and stone(probably more, not fully tested) can not be transported on stairs, limiting their usefulness.</blockquote>
I dug a few levels underground using the shaft method of up/down stairs and trees chopped down on ground level could be carried into the fortress. So Logs can be moved through stairs. --[[User:Mizipzor|Mizipzor]] 11:52, 30 October 2007 (EDT)

Strange, when I rewalled so that the only access to my tower was a stair I could no longer build floors out of wood that was lying outside. Building another ramp solved the problem, more testing obviously needed [[User:Otherdwarf|Otherdwarf]] 18:58, 30 October 2007 (EDT)

40d:Stairs

2007-10-30T12:28:42Z

Otherdwarf: more info on stairs

Stairs allow Dwarves and other creatures to travel up and down. Ramps most likely operate in the same fashion and so most advice here should apply to both.

Logs and stone(probably more, not fully tested) can not be transported on stairs, limiting their usefulness.

== Constructing Stairs ==

In order for stairs to be usable, you must construct stairs on both levels you wish to connect (An up stair connecting to a down stair). However, a Down or Up stair will give you sufficient access to the adjacent level to build connecting stairs. This means you can dig directly downwards or even directly upwards using stairs without needing any other forms of access to the area.

Using an Up/Down stair (Which goes both up and down on the same tile) you can dig a straight vertical shaft.

Only upstairs can currently be removed through the designation menu but a new floor can be built over a downstairs to effectively remove them.

40d Talk:Re-walling

2007-10-30T10:00:15Z

Otherdwarf:

Please merge this into [[Rewalling]] so that we don't have two pages on the same topic. --[[User:Peristarkawan|Peristarkawan]] 00:18, 30 October 2007 (EDT)

Done. My first wiki edit, hope there is no breach of etiquette [[User:Otherdwarf|Otherdwarf]] 06:00, 30 October 2007 (EDT)

40d:Re-walling

2007-10-30T09:57:08Z

Otherdwarf: Moving page to Rewalling, and replacing by redirect

#REDIRECT [[Rewalling]]

Rewalling

2007-10-30T09:55:41Z

Otherdwarf: Importing topic from Re-walling in preparation of merge

'''
{| class="wikitable"
|-
!
!
|-
| To re-wall outside or inside your fortress simply press:<br />
('''b''')uild<br />
then<br />
('''C''') Wall/Floor/Stairs '''*note the capital C'''<br />
then<br />
('''w''')all<br />
('''f''')loor<br />
('''r''')amp<br />
('''u''')p stairs<br />
('''d''')own stairs<br />
('''x''') up/down stairs<br />
or<br />
('''F''')ortifications '''*note the capital F'''<br />
|[[Image:Rewall1.jpg]]<br />
[[Image:Rewall2.jpg]]
|}
[[Category:Guides]]
--[[User:Thendash|Thendash]] 00:15, 30 October 2007 (EDT)