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40d Talk:Magma-safe

2007-11-25T13:32:16Z

Gadzuko:

How much of this has been verified? [[User:Schm0|Schm0]] 06:16, 20 November 2007 (EST)
:I think it's all based on inference from raw files. I have been meaning to test bauxite or get someone else to do it, but haven't run into any or been very convincing [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 10:22, 20 November 2007 (EST)

::I haven't run into any Bauxite either, and I was on hunt for it. After starting fortresses on 20+ map squares with Sediment layers, revealing it then exporting images of the layers to analyze...I haven't seen a single Bauxite deposit. Makes me wonder if it's a bug, or if I'm that unlucky. My theory is that Bauxite mechanisms won't melt under magma. --[[User:TheUbie|TheUbie]] 12:53, 20 November 2007 (EST)

:::I had the same idea :) [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 16:40, 20 November 2007 (EST)

::::Man I hope it's true. Bump that number up to 35 regions with Sediment layers and no Bauxite. Beginning to think it's a bug. --[[User:TheUbie|TheUbie]] 04:29, 21 November 2007 (EST)

:::::Isn't the easiest way to test this either to make some critter drop bauxite, or mod a stone you have to being the same temperature rating and see if that survives. --[[User:Shades|Shades]] 06:51, 21 November 2007 (EST)

::::::Is it possible to order bauxite mechanisms from the caravan? --[[User:Alfador|Alfador]] 11:44, 21 November 2007 (EST)

::::::: Actually, the easiest way was for me to edit the raw and put bauxite in every layer in the game. Fired up the game, created a new world, found a magma vent and bam I was in business. The verdict? It's magma-safe. Both Bauxite floodgates and bauxite mechanisms resist the magma, and the bauxite rocks that I left on the floor were unharmed by the magma flow. Bauxite: confirmed. With the iron and steel confirmation, I would believe that anything given the melting point stat above magma's temperature is magma safe. Now, if we can just get Toady to make magma replenish, we could make some amazing magma traps with machines made of iron/steel and bauxite! --[[User:TheUbie|TheUbie]] 15:01, 21 November 2007 (EST)

Iron is definitly magma safe. I've repeatedly flooded goblins with magma, and only their iron equipment remained. Iron floodgates are not destroyed from magma either ( although their mechanisms are. ) Iron screw pumps can pump magma with no problem. IRON IS A OK.--[[User:GauHelldragon|GauHelldragon]] 05:21, 21 November 2007 (EST)
:But you can't make mechanisms out of it, which is what we're trying to do. --[[User:GreyMario|GreyMario]] 16:14, 21 November 2007 (EST)

::There's still the question of whether you can make a magma forge/furnace using a platinum bar (I doubt it).--[[User:Maximus|Maximus]] 19:11, 21 November 2007 (EST)

Raw adamantine is magma-safe. I know we all ''knew'' that, but I've tested it. In particular, I built mechanisms out of raw adamantine and tested them on a raw adamantine floodgate. All the loose stone has since melted, but the gate continues to open and close just fine. And while raw adamantine is rare and valuable, at least it's less rare than bauxite.... [[User:Doctorlucky|Doctorlucky]] 21:00, 21 November 2007 (EST)

:Kinda sad when you feel more accomplishment from finding Bauxite than finding Adamantine. --[[User:TheUbie|TheUbie]] 04:50, 22 November 2007 (EST)

40d Talk:Magma-safe

2007-11-25T12:15:01Z

Gadzuko:

I've been testing this in 0.27.169.33c and chalk floodgates are not being destroyed by magma. Temperature is on. Is this a recent change? --[[User:Gadzuko|Gadzuko]] 20:11, 25 November 2007 (SGT)

How much of this has been verified? [[User:Schm0|Schm0]] 06:16, 20 November 2007 (EST)
:I think it's all based on inference from raw files. I have been meaning to test bauxite or get someone else to do it, but haven't run into any or been very convincing [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 10:22, 20 November 2007 (EST)

::I haven't run into any Bauxite either, and I was on hunt for it. After starting fortresses on 20+ map squares with Sediment layers, revealing it then exporting images of the layers to analyze...I haven't seen a single Bauxite deposit. Makes me wonder if it's a bug, or if I'm that unlucky. My theory is that Bauxite mechanisms won't melt under magma. --[[User:TheUbie|TheUbie]] 12:53, 20 November 2007 (EST)

:::I had the same idea :) [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 16:40, 20 November 2007 (EST)

::::Man I hope it's true. Bump that number up to 35 regions with Sediment layers and no Bauxite. Beginning to think it's a bug. --[[User:TheUbie|TheUbie]] 04:29, 21 November 2007 (EST)

:::::Isn't the easiest way to test this either to make some critter drop bauxite, or mod a stone you have to being the same temperature rating and see if that survives. --[[User:Shades|Shades]] 06:51, 21 November 2007 (EST)

::::::Is it possible to order bauxite mechanisms from the caravan? --[[User:Alfador|Alfador]] 11:44, 21 November 2007 (EST)

::::::: Actually, the easiest way was for me to edit the raw and put bauxite in every layer in the game. Fired up the game, created a new world, found a magma vent and bam I was in business. The verdict? It's magma-safe. Both Bauxite floodgates and bauxite mechanisms resist the magma, and the bauxite rocks that I left on the floor were unharmed by the magma flow. Bauxite: confirmed. With the iron and steel confirmation, I would believe that anything given the melting point stat above magma's temperature is magma safe. Now, if we can just get Toady to make magma replenish, we could make some amazing magma traps with machines made of iron/steel and bauxite! --[[User:TheUbie|TheUbie]] 15:01, 21 November 2007 (EST)

Iron is definitly magma safe. I've repeatedly flooded goblins with magma, and only their iron equipment remained. Iron floodgates are not destroyed from magma either ( although their mechanisms are. ) Iron screw pumps can pump magma with no problem. IRON IS A OK.--[[User:GauHelldragon|GauHelldragon]] 05:21, 21 November 2007 (EST)
:But you can't make mechanisms out of it, which is what we're trying to do. --[[User:GreyMario|GreyMario]] 16:14, 21 November 2007 (EST)

::There's still the question of whether you can make a magma forge/furnace using a platinum bar (I doubt it).--[[User:Maximus|Maximus]] 19:11, 21 November 2007 (EST)

Raw adamantine is magma-safe. I know we all ''knew'' that, but I've tested it. In particular, I built mechanisms out of raw adamantine and tested them on a raw adamantine floodgate. All the loose stone has since melted, but the gate continues to open and close just fine. And while raw adamantine is rare and valuable, at least it's less rare than bauxite.... [[User:Doctorlucky|Doctorlucky]] 21:00, 21 November 2007 (EST)

:Kinda sad when you feel more accomplishment from finding Bauxite than finding Adamantine. --[[User:TheUbie|TheUbie]] 04:50, 22 November 2007 (EST)

Outpost manager

2007-11-25T08:24:28Z

Gadzuko:

{{Noble
| noble=Manager
| office=Meager Office
| function=
* Manage bulk job orders
}}
The Outpost Manager is an appointed [[noble]] position. To do his/her work he/she uses the [[Organizer]] skill.

If this position is left vacant, the Manager screen at {{K|j}} -> {{K|m}} says "A manager is required to coordinate work orders", which seems to imply that they will not be performed.

After the outpost has 20 dwarves at least, all the tasks require the manager to sign off on them before they can be started, and that the manager window displays a list of checkmarks to signify the tasks he/she has signed off on. He/she needs an office to sign off on the tasks.

He/she needs an office, and starts being necessary, at 20 dwarves. Before that, the tasks don't need to be signed off on.

[[Category:Nobles]]

Template:Floor Plan Smelter

2007-11-24T16:07:20Z

Gadzuko: New page: {{Floor Plan|#0f0|#070|#0f0|#0f0|#0f0|#0f0|#0f0|#0f0|#0f0}}

40d:Glass furnace

2007-11-24T15:55:43Z

Gadzuko:

{{Furnace|name=Glass furnace|key=g|job=[[Glassmaking]]
|construction=
1 of
* [[Stone]]
* [[Wood]]
* [[Block]]
|construction_job=
* [[Glassmaking]]
|use=
* [[Sand]] bag
* [[Pearlash]]
* Raw [[rock crystal]]
* [[Coke]] or [[Charcoal]]
|production=
* Raw glass
* [[Vial]]s
* Items
* [[Window]]s
* [[Furniture]]
}}

Glass furnaces are used to make raw glass (a gem), blocks, and furniture items. All furniture made at a glass furnace can be made out of either metal, stone or wood, with the exception of windows, which can be made from gems. Glass furnaces can make craft goods, and vials, used to make extracts. Clear glass vials are needed to build an [[alchemist's laboratory]]. Raw glass is sometimes a component needed to make [[artifacts]].

Glass furnaces can make goods from green glass, clear glass, and crystal glass. Green glass requires sand, clear glass requires sand and pearlash, and crystal glass requires raw rock crystals and pearlash. Raw rock crystals are a type of gem and are usually very difficult to find.

Many of the names of glass furniture are different. A glass door is called a portal, and a glass coffer is called a box.

Glass furnaces are also needed to issue the "collect sand" order. This requires an empty bag, and Item Hauler, and a zone designated for sand collection.

Not all maps have a source of sand, and sand may not be imported. Raw or cut glass may not be imported. Raw crystal glass may not be imported. Foreign merchants never have glass furniture for sale.

{{Buildings}}
[[Category:Buildings]]

40d:Magma glass furnace

2007-11-24T15:54:38Z

Gadzuko: New page: {{Furnace|name=Magma glass furnace|key=g|job=Glassmaking |construction= 1 of * Stone * Block |construction_job= * Glassmaking |use= * Sand bag * Pearlash * Raw [[ro...

{{Furnace|name=Magma glass furnace|key=g|job=[[Glassmaking]]
|construction=
1 of
* [[Stone]]
* [[Block]]
|construction_job=
* [[Glassmaking]]
|use=
* [[Sand]] bag
* [[Pearlash]]
* Raw [[rock crystal]]
|production=
* Raw glass
* [[Vial]]s
* Items
* [[Window]]s
* [[Furniture]]
}}

Glass furnaces are used to make raw glass (a gem), blocks, and furniture items. All furniture made at a glass furnace can be made out of either metal, stone or wood, with the exception of windows, which can be made from gems. Glass furnaces can make craft goods, and vials, used to make extracts. Clear glass vials are needed to build an [[alchemist's laboratory]]. Raw glass is sometimes a component needed to make [[artifacts]].

Glass furnaces can make goods from green glass, clear glass, and crystal glass. Green glass requires sand, clear glass requires sand and pearlash, and crystal glass requires raw rock crystals and pearlash. Raw rock crystals are a type of gem and are usually very difficult to find.

Many of the names of glass furniture are different. A glass door is called a portal, and a glass coffer is called a box.

Glass furnaces are also needed to issue the "collect sand" order. This requires an empty bag, and Item Hauler, and a zone designated for sand collection.

Not all maps have a source of sand, and sand may not be imported. Raw or cut glass may not be imported. Raw crystal glass may not be imported. Foreign merchants never have glass furniture for sale.

{{Buildings}}
[[Category:Buildings]]

40d:Magma kiln

2007-11-24T15:39:36Z

Gadzuko:

{{Furnace|name=Kiln|key=k|job=[[Furnace operator]]
|construction=
1 of
* [[Stone]]
* [[Wood]]
* [[Block]]
|construction_job=
* [[Architecture]]
* [[Masonry]]
|use=
* [[Potash]]
|production=
* [[Pearlash]]
}}

A '''magma kiln''' is a [[furnace]] used to create [[pearlash]] from [[potash]]. It uses the [[Furnace Operator]] skill. Unlike a standard [[kiln]], it does not require fuel.

{{Buildings}}
[[Category:Buildings]]

40d:Magma kiln

2007-11-24T15:38:13Z

Gadzuko:

A magma kiln is a furnace used to create pearlash from potash. It uses the Furnace Operator skill. Unlike a standard [[kiln]], it does not require fuel.

{{Buildings}}
[[Category:Buildings]]

40d:Magma kiln

2007-11-24T15:37:33Z

Gadzuko: New page: A magma kiln is a furnace used to create pearlash from potash. It uses the Furnace Operator skill. Unlike a standard kiln, it does not require fuel.

A magma kiln is a furnace used to create pearlash from potash. It uses the Furnace Operator skill. Unlike a standard [[kiln]], it does not require fuel.

40d:Furnace

2007-11-24T15:35:42Z

Gadzuko:

A '''furnace''' is a building used to heat materials. It can be powered by [[fuel]] or, in the case of magma furnaces, by the heat from [[magma]]. Every furnace must be built from [[fire-safe materials]]. Magma furnaces must also be placed with one of their edge tiles above magma with depth of 3 or more; this can be accomplished by digging a channel for the magma. Other than these requirements, they are identical to [[workshops]].{{ver|0.23.130.23a}}

== [[Wood furnace]] ==

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Materials used – [[wood]] 
Items made – [[ash]], [[charcoal]]

== [[Smelter]] ==

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Materials used – [[Ore]] 
Items made – [[metal]] [[bars]]

== [[Glass furnace]] ==

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Materials used – [[Sand]], [[Rock crystal]], [[Pearlash]], [[Charcoal]], [[Coal]] 
Items made – Green [[glass]], Crystal glass, Clear glass

== [[Kiln]] ==

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Materials used – [[Potash]], [[Charcoal]], [[Coal]] 
Items made – [[Pearlash]]

== [[Magma smelter]] ==

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Materials used – [[metal]] [[ore]]s 
Items made – metal [[bars]]

== [[Magma glass furnace]] ==

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Materials used – [[Sand]], [[Pearlash]], Rock crystal 
Items made – [[Glass]] objects

== [[Magma kiln]] ==

Shortcut {{k|b}}{{k|e}}{{k|n}} 
Materials used – [[Potash]] 
Items made – [[Pearlash]]

[[Category:Furnaces]]