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40d Talk:Exploit

2008-12-17T19:58:43Z

Erom: /* Infinite Power Not An Exploit */

== Deadly bridges ==

As far as I recall megabeasts can't be killed with bridge, and they destroy it when it tries to smash them. Article does state that bridge can destroy everything. --[[User:Someone-else|Someone-else]] 00:24, 21 April 2008 (EDT)

:Also I often hear that demons are not affected by the bridge and that it is destroyed if it lowers on top of them. We need some verification on this.--[[User:Richards|Richards]] 00:57, 21 April 2008 (EDT)
== Quantum stockpiles ==
[[User:GreyMario|GreyMario]] wrote an exploit about Siege engines that doesn't makes much sense. We need someone to expand it.--[[User:Richards|Richards]] 01:09, 21 April 2008 (EDT)

You fire the stone into the wall, which then falls into the trench. As the trench is limited in space, stones start piling up. (Apparently, catapults are no good at doing what they were historically used for - destroying walls... And they fire in flat trajectories - i would have honestly expected stones to travel up z-levels - but having tested catapults with roofs over them, they work, which i find silly but what the heck...). Note that this is only a quantum stockpile for stone, as opposed to dump, which is much more versatile, but there's also no need to reclaim. --[[User:Squirrelloid|Squirrelloid]] 02:15, 21 April 2008 (EDT)

:Thanks. I'll add that in.--[[User:Richards|Richards]] 02:37, 21 April 2008 (EDT)

::Well I guess eventually there will be a limit of how many items can be on a specific square... but for the moment there can be an infinite number of items no any square. --[[User:AlexFili|AlexFili]] 06:10, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

I'm trying to use the Quantum Stockpile technique to toss everything from my wagon to a single tile, but the Dwarves won't haul anything I've marked for dumping! I've made sure that nothing is forbidden, and the Dwarves all haul Refuse/Stone/Wood etc... but they won't move. --[[User:Anfini|Anfini]] 00:55, 13 July 2008 (EDT)

:Ha! Nevermind, fixed it myself. I didn't realize DF toggled "Dwarves ignore Refuse from outside" by default. --[[User:Anfini|Anfini]] 00:58, 13 July 2008 (EDT)

== Ideological point of views ==

Given the endless discussions on the net on what is considered or not cheating (as opposed to modding, or fair use of game mechanics, etc.), I suggest being extra careful of not asserting what is or what is not [[cheating]].

Exploits are distinct from cheating because ...

Some would say

Exploits are a distinct form of cheating because ...

Plus, the justification
Whether a player chooses to make use of an exploit or not depends on their personal taste;
given that Dwarf Fortress is a single-player game, no one is actually harmed when you use an exploit.

equally applies to all forms of cheating (or non-cheating).

I would also stress that DF is currently more of a sandbox than a game with difficult goals, and that players boast more about their devious schemes and grand projects than about ''winning''.

--[[User:Aykavil|Aykavil]] 05:20, 10 July 2008 (EDT)

:Don't forget, many cheaters 'cheat' because they want to find out how particular functions work or to 'test out theories'. Then of course there's the people who cheat to simply save time. These are different from the people who would cheat just for 'kicks'. --[[User:AlexFili|AlexFili]] 05:31, 10 July 2008 (EDT)
:I would say that it's indeed true that exploits are distinct from cheating. Cheating in a game involves breaking the rules; in a computer game, the program itself is "the rules" that one plays by. In fact, in some cases the "exploits" are unavoidable (such as children being legendary in six or more skills before they reach adulthood).

:It's like in gridiron football, if the ball carrier goes out of bounds the clock stops. This can be considered an exploitation of the rules to keep time from running out in the half, but it certainly isn't cheating.--[[User:Gandalf the Dwarf (No, really! Look it up!)|Gandalf the Dwarf (No, really! Look it up!)]] 14:01, 13 November 2008 (EST)

::My attitude toward such things generally revolves around what I imagine the creators of the game intended. In Stronghold 2, for example. I am certain that the creators did not intend players to create gigantic stacks of siege engines coexisting ipon a single point, but last I saw it was the 'best' strategy. That upset me. But it doesn't upset me when someone exploits DF or 'mangles' it with modding. There is very little a player can do to subvert Toady's intent with this game, even with modding, because it's more than just a fuedal economy/fortress defense simulation. I'm all for rules and restrictions in bloodline games, though--cheating and exploitation can be fun, but they almost always ruin stories and make the game less challenging. --[[User:Navian|Navian]] 15:36, 13 November 2008 (EST)

== Legendary Wrestler (Adventure) ==

I found a bug in Adventure mode that could be quite readily exploited. I wasn't sure if I just plonked it on the page, or chucked it here, so I'm just putting it here for now.

When strangling anything, you get 10xp for every 'choke'. If you hold down the directional button towards the creature, it will still get choked, but time will no pass, and the creature will never die. By placing something heavy(ish) on your keyboard, you can pretty much leave your adventurer to strangle for about 10 minutes, while you go get a drink. You come back, press Z to check your status, and, whadya know, you are now a Legendary Wrestler.

For reference, I use Windows XP. Don't know if that helps at all.

Thanks, Doom.

==Infinite Power Not An Exploit==
No really. I know it makes no physical sense, but as there is little good way to create power generation on most maps otherwise, and power can be used for all sorts of fun projects, the possibility of creating a battery anywhere you need it makes all sorts of fun things possible. I also doubt implementing a realistic physics model of energy is at all possible, much less sensical in a game which allows productive underground farming - which is honestly a far more serious violation of conservation of energy than waterwheel batteries. Doesn't work like reality does not imply it isn't intended or its exploitive of the system. The fact that the easy availability of power leads to more fun projects strongly argues it is a feature, not an exploit. --[[User:Squirrelloid|Squirrelloid]] 17:29, 12 December 2008 (EST)

The line between Exploit and Feature is entirely subjective. The fact that a significant player population considers something an exploit makes it so, I would think. It's not like "exploit" in this sense is a pejorative term. --[[User:Erom|Erom]] 14:58, 17 December 2008 (EST)

40d Talk:Biome token

2008-12-17T19:50:40Z

Erom: further research on entities v biomes

I'm trying to determine which of these biomes are valid for entities - the following are known to be accepted without throwing an error (whether or not they actually work as advertised is untested).

*[BIOME_SUPPORT:ANY_WETLAND:1]
*[BIOME_SUPPORT:ANY_DESERT:1]
*[BIOME_SUPPORT:ANY_FOREST:2]
*[BIOME_SUPPORT:ANY_OCEAN:1]
*[BIOME_SUPPORT:ANY_LAKE:1]
*[BIOME_SUPPORT:MOUNTAIN:3]
*[BIOME_SUPPORT:ANY_GRASSLAND:1]
*[BIOME_SUPPORT:ANY_SAVANNA:1]
*[BIOME_SUPPORT:ANY_SHRUBLAND:1]
*[BIOME_SUPPORT:ANY_RIVER:1]

Not that the ANY_FOREST biome isn't even in the current list on the page.
--[[User:Erom|Erom]] 14:38, 17 December 2008 (EST)

Alright, all other BIOMEs listed on the wiki work as entity BIOME_SUPPORT, although I would be surprised if some of them (like chasm or lava or pool) really worked. I have verified that it will not take an arbitrary value, indicating that ANY_FOREST is probably a real biome tag and should be included in the main list.
--[[User:Erom|Erom]] 14:50, 17 December 2008 (EST)

User:Erom

2008-12-17T19:39:20Z

Erom:

'''Note: This use page may contain spoilers.'''

Playing since shortly before the 3D version was released.

Current project:
* Oversimplified DF Mod
** Simplified clothing
** Simplified crops
** less wild animals
** less civs
** Simplified stone and soil

40d Talk:Biome token

2008-12-17T19:38:06Z

Erom: started some research on entities and biomes

40d:Demon

2008-09-19T18:03:21Z

Erom:

{{spoiler}}

[[Image:Mountain_air_pocket.JPG|thumb|right|250px|Here, demons appear as red and green ampersands.]]

A Demon is an evil fast moving creature that will either severely wound or kill your [[dwarf|dwarves]] and [[animal]]s. Their attacks include projectile fireballs and hand to hand combat. Most are living and as such are especially vulnerable to weapons with high critical boost such as [[spear]]s and [[crossbow]] [[bolt]]s.

Demons are immune to [[Trap#Stone-fall_Trap|stone-fall traps]], [[Trap#Weapon_Trap|weapon traps]], [[Trap#Cage_Trap|cage traps]] and will destroy your [[door]]s and [[floodgate]]s. At least some of them are able to fly and survive under [[Water|water]] and [[Magma|magma]].

==Defenses against Demons==

*Demons, as large, living enemies, are somewhat susceptible to piercing damage - [[spear]] and [[arrow]]s work well. A well trained, well equipped [[speardwarf]] can mix it up with frog and [[tentacle demon]]s, however will likely not get the chance to close with a [[Spirit_of_fire|Spirit of Fire]] before being immolated by the Spirit's ranged [[fire]] attack. Spirits also lack most vital organs that spears target in any case. Spirits can be reliably brought down by [[marksdwarf|marksdwarves]], but expect losses on both sides of that matchup. You can signifigantly improve your survival rate by placing the marksdwaves behind [[fortification]]s - the incoming fireballs have a chance to not penetrate the fortifications, which is higher the farther away the demon fired from.

*Finally, [[siege weapon]]s can be useful against demons. A [[ballista|ballista]] bolt will kill a demon, and a ballista fired down a narrow hallway to channel the demons into your field of fire will kill several. Use [[wall]]s and fortifications to give your siege crew some protection from fireballs, and prepare a backup plan as your crew will panic and run once the demons get too close, which will happen ''quickly'' as the demons are quite fast.

*One effective anti-demon tactic is to equip your entire fortress with crossbows and quivers and arrows and order them all into 1-dwarf squads. Station every one dwarf squad on the same tile. The result should be a single tile capable of launching 60+bolts in seconds. Set a space 4-6 tiles closer to the demons as a meeting zone; spare animals will pile up there. In this method, any approaching demons will 'bump' into the horses and cats, and then be obliterated by incredible crossbow fire. Although eventually your defending creatures may be slaughtered, this tactic can allow you to survive demon pits with ease.

*One thing you '''shouldn't''' bother trying is crushing the demons under a [[drawbridge|drawbridge]]. This used to be a highly effective (so much so that it was considered an exploit by some players) tactic, but in recent version the demon will break your bridge rather than vice-versa.

'''[[Demon]]''': The same type of demon that rules the goblin civilizations, only one of these will usually be released, leading a large number of "soldier" demons of the other three types (only one type per pit). Larger and generally tougher than the other types of demons, they can also breath fire.
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[STANDARD_FLESH]
[HOMEOTHERM:10095]
[SWIMS_INNATE][SWIM_SPEED:2500]
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[PERSONALITY:FRIENDLINESS:0:0:0]
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}}

'''[[Frog demon]]''': Arguably the easiest demon. Powerful combatant and can swim.

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[TILE:'&'][COLOR:2:0:1]
[MODVALUE:20]
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[SIZE:12]
[ATTACK:MAIN:BYTYPE:MOUTH:bite:bites:1:6:GORE][ATTACKFLAG_CANLATCH]
[ATTACK:MAIN:BYTYPE:GRASP:punch:punches:1:2:BLUDGEON][ATTACKFLAG_WITH]
[NO_DRINK][NO_EAT][NO_SLEEP]
[ALL_ACTIVE]
[NO_GENDER]
[STANDARD_FLESH]
[SWIMS_INNATE][SWIM_SPEED:2500]
[PERSONALITY:FRIENDLINESS:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:CHEERFULNESS:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:TRUST:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:STRAIGHTFORWARDNESS:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:ALTRUISM:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:COOPERATION:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:SYMPATHY:0:0:0]
[SPHERE:MUCK]
[SPHERE:WATER]
[HOMEOTHERM:10040]
}}

'''[[Tentacle_demon|Tentacle Demon]]''': Corrupt intentions.

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[NAME:tentacle demon:tentacle demons:tentacle demon]
[TILE:'&'][COLOR:5:0:1]
[MODVALUE:20]
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[CANOPENDOORS]
[BUTCHERABLE_NONSTANDARD][EVIL]
[BUILDINGDESTROYER:2]
[NOFEAR][NOEXERT]
[PREFSTRING:corrupt intentions]
[BODY:HUMANOID_SIMPLE:SIX_TENTACLES:2EYES:NOSE:2LUNGS:HEART:GUTS:ORGANS:THROAT:NECK:SPINE:BRAIN:5FINGERS:5TOES:MOUTH]
[SIZE:12]
[ATTACK:MAIN:BYTYPE:MOUTH:bite:bites:1:6:GORE][ATTACKFLAG_CANLATCH]
[ATTACK:MAIN:BYTYPE:GRASP:punch:punches:1:2:BLUDGEON][ATTACKFLAG_WITH]
[ATTACK:MAIN:BYTOKEN:RUTC:stab:stabs:1:3:PIERCE][ATTACKFLAG_WITH]
[ATTACK:MAIN:BYTOKEN:LUTC:stab:stabs:1:3:PIERCE][ATTACKFLAG_WITH]
[ATTACK:MAIN:BYTOKEN:RMTC:stab:stabs:1:3:PIERCE][ATTACKFLAG_WITH]
[ATTACK:MAIN:BYTOKEN:LMTC:stab:stabs:1:3:PIERCE][ATTACKFLAG_WITH]
[ATTACK:MAIN:BYTOKEN:RLTC:stab:stabs:1:3:PIERCE][ATTACKFLAG_WITH]
[ATTACK:MAIN:BYTOKEN:LLTC:stab:stabs:1:3:PIERCE][ATTACKFLAG_WITH]
[NO_DRINK][NO_EAT][NO_SLEEP]
[ALL_ACTIVE]
[MALE]
[STANDARD_FLESH]
[HOMEOTHERM:10069]
[SWIMS_INNATE][SWIM_SPEED:2500]
[PERSONALITY:IMMODERATION:100:100:100]
[PERSONALITY:FRIENDLINESS:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:CHEERFULNESS:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:TRUST:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:STRAIGHTFORWARDNESS:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:ALTRUISM:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:COOPERATION:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:SYMPATHY:0:0:0]
[SPHERE:DEPRAVITY]
[SPHERE:THRALLDOM]
}}

'''[[Spirit_of_fire|Spirit of Fire]]''': Arguably the hardest demon. Cannot swim, launches fireballs, is surrounded by fire, a powerful combatant, and can fly. Limbs sever when broken.

{{Game_Data|[CREATURE:SPIRIT_OF_FIRE]
[NAME:spirit of fire:spirits of fire:spirit of fire]
[TILE:'&'][COLOR:6:0:1]
[FLIER]
[MODVALUE:20]
[FANCIFUL][DEFENDER]
[TRAPAVOID][CAN_LEARN][CAN_SPEAK]
[FIREBREATH][FIREIMMUNE][LIKES_FIGHTING][MAGMA_VISION]
[GENPOWER:5]
[BLOODTYPE:0]
[CANOPENDOORS]
[NOT_BUTCHERABLE][EVIL]
[NOPAIN][EXTRAVISION][NOBREATHE][NOBLEED][NOSTUN][NONAUSEA][NOEMOTION][RECKLESS]
[NOSTUCKINS][SEVERONBREAKS][NOSKULL][NOSKIN][NOBONES][NOMEAT][NOTHOUGHT][NOEXERT]
[BUILDINGDESTROYER:2]
[NOFEAR][NOEXERT]
[PREFSTRING:firey glow]
[ITEMCORPSE:BAR:NO_SUBTYPE:ASH:NO_MATGLOSS]
[NOSMELLYROT]
[BODY:HUMANOID_SIMPLE]
[SIZE:11]
[ATTACK:MAIN:BYTYPE:GRASP:punch:punches:1:6:BURN][ATTACKFLAG_WITH]
[NO_DRINK][NO_EAT][NO_SLEEP]
[ALL_ACTIVE]
[NO_GENDER]
[FIXED_TEMP:25000]
[PERSONALITY:FRIENDLINESS:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:CHEERFULNESS:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:TRUST:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:STRAIGHTFORWARDNESS:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:ALTRUISM:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:COOPERATION:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:SYMPATHY:0:0:0]
[SPHERE:FIRE]
}}
[[Category:Creatures]][[Category:Spoilers]]

User:Erom

2008-06-03T16:25:55Z

Erom:

'''Note: This use page may contain spoilers.'''

Playing since shortly before the 3D version was released.

Current project:
- Clear a demon pit with a 25 population cap, without using Atom Smashers.

Future projects:
- Do the same with a 5 population cap.

40d:Shield user

2008-06-03T16:23:27Z

Erom:

'''Shield User''' is the skill associated with the use of [[shields]] and [[bucklers]] in combat. The skill is gained every time a block roll is attempted, and presumably increases the chance of higher block rolls. If the block roll succeeds the attack is blocked completely.

At [[legendary]] or near-legendary levels, this skill provides ''huge'' amounts of protection, allowing a dwarf with a decent shield to block many crossbow bolts, or even [[Dragonfire]].

40d:Demon

2008-04-04T16:28:26Z

Erom:

{{spoiler}}

[[Image:Mountain_air_pocket.JPG|thumb|right|250px|Here, demons appear as red and green ampersands.]]

A Demon is an evil fast moving creature that will either severely wound or kill your [[dwarf|dwarves]] and [[animal]]s. Their attacks include projectile fireballs and hand to hand combat. Most are living and as such are especially vulnerable to weapons with high critical boost such as [[spear]]s and [[crossbow]] [[bolt]]s.

Demons are immune to [[Trap#Stone-fall_Trap|stone-fall traps]], [[Trap#Weapon_Trap|weapon traps]], [[Trap#Cage_Trap|cage traps]] and will destroy your [[door]]s and [[floodgate]]s. At least some of them are able to fly and survive under [[Water|water]] and [[Magma|magma]].

==Defenses against Demons==

The easiest way to deal with demons, of course, is the "dwarven atom smasher" - crushing demons under a [[bridge|drawbridge]] will completely destroy them (and anything else). However, this method is frequently seen as somewhat "cheap" and certainly by doing this you deny yourself one of the most fun encounters in Dwarf Fortress.{{verify}}

Demons, as large, living enemies, are somewhat susceptible to piercing damage - [[spear]] and [[arrow]]s work well. A well trained, well equipped [[speardwarf]] can mix it up with frog and [[tentacle demon]]s, however will likely not get the chance to close with a [[Spirit_of_fire|Spirit of Fire]] before being immolated by the Spirit's ranged [[fire]] attack. Spirits also lack most vital organs that spears target in any case. Spirits can be reliably brought down by [[marksdwarf|marksdwarves]], but expect losses on both sides of that matchup. You can signifigantly improve your survival rate by placing the marksdwaves behind [[fortification]]s - the incoming fireballs have a chance to not penetrate the fortifications, which is higher the farther away the demon fired from.

Finally, [[siege weapon]]s can be useful against demons. A [[ballista|Ballistae]] bolt will kill a demon, and a ballistae fired down a narrow hallway to channel the demons into your field of fire will kill several. Use [[wall]]s and fortifications to give your siege crew some protection from fireballs, and prepare a backup plan as your crew will panic and run once the demons get too close, which will happen ''quickly'' as the demons are quite fast.

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[NAME:demon:demons:demonic]
[TILE:'&'][COLOR:4:0:1]
[MODVALUE:50]
[FANCIFUL][ENDING][POWER]
[FIREBREATH][FIREIMMUNE][LIKES_FIGHTING][MAGMA_VISION]
[FLIER]
[TRAPAVOID][CAN_LEARN][CAN_SPEAK]
[GENPOWER:5]
[BLOODTYPE:0]
[BUTCHERABLE_NONSTANDARD][EVIL]
[BUILDINGDESTROYER:2]
[NOFEAR][NOEXERT]
[CANOPENDOORS]
[PREFSTRING:terrifying features]
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[SIZE:16]
[ATTACK:MAIN:BYTYPE:MOUTH:bite:bites:1:6:BURN][ATTACKFLAG_CANLATCH]
[ATTACK:SECOND:BYTYPE:GRASP:punch:punches:1:2:BLUDGEON][ATTACKFLAG_WITH]
[NO_DRINK][NO_EAT][NO_SLEEP]
[EQUIPS]
[FAT:3]
[ALL_ACTIVE]
[STANDARD_FLESH]
[HOMEOTHERM:10095]
[SWIMS_INNATE][SWIM_SPEED:2500]
[PERSONALITY:ANXIETY:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:DEPRESSION:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:SELF_CONSCIOUSNESS:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:VULNERABILITY:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:FRIENDLINESS:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:ASSERTIVENESS:100:100:100]
[PERSONALITY:CHEERFULNESS:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:TRUST:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:STRAIGHTFORWARDNESS:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:ALTRUISM:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:COOPERATION:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:SYMPATHY:0:0:0]
[SPHERE:FIRE]
[SPHERE:DEATH]
[SPHERE:TORTURE]
}}

'''[[Frog Demon]]''': Arguably the easiest demon. Powerful combatant and can swim.

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[NAME:frog demon:frog demons:frog demon]
[TILE:'&'][COLOR:2:0:1]
[MODVALUE:20]
[FANCIFUL][DEFENDER]
[TRAPAVOID][CAN_LEARN][CAN_SPEAK][FIREIMMUNE]
[AMPHIBIOUS][UNDERSWIM]
[LIKES_FIGHTING]
[GENPOWER:5]
[BLOODTYPE:0]
[CANOPENDOORS]
[BUTCHERABLE_NONSTANDARD][EVIL]
[BUILDINGDESTROYER:2]
[NOFEAR][NOEXERT]
[PREFSTRING:impressive bellies]
[BODY:HUMANOID:2EYES:NOSE:2LUNGS:HEART:GUTS:ORGANS:HUMANOID_JOINTS:THROAT:NECK:SPINE:BRAIN:4FINGERS:4TOES:MOUTH]
[SIZE:12]
[ATTACK:MAIN:BYTYPE:MOUTH:bite:bites:1:6:GORE][ATTACKFLAG_CANLATCH]
[ATTACK:MAIN:BYTYPE:GRASP:punch:punches:1:2:BLUDGEON][ATTACKFLAG_WITH]
[NO_DRINK][NO_EAT][NO_SLEEP]
[ALL_ACTIVE]
[NO_GENDER]
[STANDARD_FLESH]
[SWIMS_INNATE][SWIM_SPEED:2500]
[PERSONALITY:FRIENDLINESS:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:CHEERFULNESS:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:TRUST:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:STRAIGHTFORWARDNESS:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:ALTRUISM:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:COOPERATION:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:SYMPATHY:0:0:0]
[SPHERE:MUCK]
[SPHERE:WATER]
[HOMEOTHERM:10040]
}}

'''[[Tentacle Demon]]''': Corrupt intentions.

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[NAME:tentacle demon:tentacle demons:tentacle demon]
[TILE:'&'][COLOR:5:0:1]
[MODVALUE:20]
[FANCIFUL][DEFENDER]
[TRAPAVOID][CAN_LEARN][CAN_SPEAK][FIREIMMUNE]
[LIKES_FIGHTING]
[GENPOWER:5]
[BLOODTYPE:0]
[CANOPENDOORS]
[BUTCHERABLE_NONSTANDARD][EVIL]
[BUILDINGDESTROYER:2]
[NOFEAR][NOEXERT]
[PREFSTRING:corrupt intentions]
[BODY:HUMANOID_SIMPLE:SIX_TENTACLES:2EYES:NOSE:2LUNGS:HEART:GUTS:ORGANS:THROAT:NECK:SPINE:BRAIN:5FINGERS:5TOES:MOUTH]
[SIZE:12]
[ATTACK:MAIN:BYTYPE:MOUTH:bite:bites:1:6:GORE][ATTACKFLAG_CANLATCH]
[ATTACK:MAIN:BYTYPE:GRASP:punch:punches:1:2:BLUDGEON][ATTACKFLAG_WITH]
[ATTACK:MAIN:BYTOKEN:RUTC:stab:stabs:1:3:PIERCE][ATTACKFLAG_WITH]
[ATTACK:MAIN:BYTOKEN:LUTC:stab:stabs:1:3:PIERCE][ATTACKFLAG_WITH]
[ATTACK:MAIN:BYTOKEN:RMTC:stab:stabs:1:3:PIERCE][ATTACKFLAG_WITH]
[ATTACK:MAIN:BYTOKEN:LMTC:stab:stabs:1:3:PIERCE][ATTACKFLAG_WITH]
[ATTACK:MAIN:BYTOKEN:RLTC:stab:stabs:1:3:PIERCE][ATTACKFLAG_WITH]
[ATTACK:MAIN:BYTOKEN:LLTC:stab:stabs:1:3:PIERCE][ATTACKFLAG_WITH]
[NO_DRINK][NO_EAT][NO_SLEEP]
[ALL_ACTIVE]
[MALE]
[STANDARD_FLESH]
[HOMEOTHERM:10069]
[SWIMS_INNATE][SWIM_SPEED:2500]
[PERSONALITY:IMMODERATION:100:100:100]
[PERSONALITY:FRIENDLINESS:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:CHEERFULNESS:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:TRUST:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:STRAIGHTFORWARDNESS:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:ALTRUISM:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:COOPERATION:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:SYMPATHY:0:0:0]
[SPHERE:DEPRAVITY]
[SPHERE:THRALLDOM]
}}

'''[[Spirit_of_fire|Spirit of Fire]]''': Arguably the hardest demon. Cannot swim, launches fireballs, is surrounded by fire, a powerful combatant, and can fly. Limbs sever when broken.

{{Game_Data|[CREATURE:SPIRIT_OF_FIRE]
[NAME:spirit of fire:spirits of fire:spirit of fire]
[TILE:'&'][COLOR:6:0:1]
[FLIER]
[MODVALUE:20]
[FANCIFUL][DEFENDER]
[TRAPAVOID][CAN_LEARN][CAN_SPEAK]
[FIREBREATH][FIREIMMUNE][LIKES_FIGHTING][MAGMA_VISION]
[GENPOWER:5]
[BLOODTYPE:0]
[CANOPENDOORS]
[NOT_BUTCHERABLE][EVIL]
[NOPAIN][EXTRAVISION][NOBREATHE][NOBLEED][NOSTUN][NONAUSEA][NOEMOTION][RECKLESS]
[NOSTUCKINS][SEVERONBREAKS][NOSKULL][NOSKIN][NOBONES][NOMEAT][NOTHOUGHT][NOEXERT]
[BUILDINGDESTROYER:2]
[NOFEAR][NOEXERT]
[PREFSTRING:firey glow]
[ITEMCORPSE:BAR:NO_SUBTYPE:ASH:NO_MATGLOSS]
[NOSMELLYROT]
[BODY:HUMANOID_SIMPLE]
[SIZE:11]
[ATTACK:MAIN:BYTYPE:GRASP:punch:punches:1:6:BURN][ATTACKFLAG_WITH]
[NO_DRINK][NO_EAT][NO_SLEEP]
[ALL_ACTIVE]
[NO_GENDER]
[FIXED_TEMP:25000]
[PERSONALITY:FRIENDLINESS:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:CHEERFULNESS:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:TRUST:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:STRAIGHTFORWARDNESS:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:ALTRUISM:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:COOPERATION:0:0:0]
[PERSONALITY:SYMPATHY:0:0:0]
[SPHERE:FIRE]
}}
[[Category:Creatures]][[Category:Spoilers]]

40d Talk:Bronze colossus

2008-03-06T18:49:29Z

Erom:

Has anyone managed to see if the collossii still drop nice statues when you kill them with crossbows? --[[User:Frostedfire|Frostedfire]] 18:54, 8 November 2007 (EST)

They should no matter how you kill them. But I have verified that they still can slaughter about anything and toss it across the screen. And go through an entire army while only getting a scratch on the arm. --[[User:Penguinofhonor|Penguinofhonor]] 16:45, 2 December 2007 (EST)

Good god, I've just lost three champions, two axe lords, and a swordmaster along with about twenty assorted soldiers and guards to one of these guys. And he heals himself. --[[User:Neatoburrito|Neatoburrito]] 15:38, 5 January 2008 (EST)

Should it be noted that if you can trap a colossus (via channels filled with water or similar) you can train marksdwarves VERY quickly by using it as a target (since it has no vitals to pierce and heals fast enough to overcome the damage from a couple of attackers). --[[User:Erom|Erom]] 13:49, 6 March 2008 (EST)

40d Talk:Bronze colossus

2008-03-06T18:49:08Z

Erom:

Has anyone managed to see if the collossii still drop nice statues when you kill them with crossbows? --[[User:Frostedfire|Frostedfire]] 18:54, 8 November 2007 (EST)

They should no matter how you kill them. But I have verified that they still can slaughter about anything and toss it across the screen. And go through an entire army while only getting a scratch on the arm. --[[User:Penguinofhonor|Penguinofhonor]] 16:45, 2 December 2007 (EST)

Good god, I've just lost three champions, two axe lords, and a swordmaster along with about twenty assorted soldiers and guards to one of these guys. And he heals himself. --[[User:Neatoburrito|Neatoburrito]] 15:38, 5 January 2008 (EST)

Should it be noted that if you can trap a colossus (via channels filled with water or similar) you can train marksdwarves pretty quickly by using it as a target (since it has no vitals to pierce and heals fast enough to overcome the damage from a couple of attackers). --[[User:Erom|Erom]] 13:49, 6 March 2008 (EST)

40d Talk:Fortress defense

2008-03-06T18:44:14Z

Erom:

i ve seen discussions bout "moats/pits" here and there - why not simply use an empty channel? --[[User:Koltom|Koltom]] 11:07, 6 March 2008 (EST)

Style, mostly. Well, that and an empty channel isn't deadly to anyone falling into it (Which can happen on occasion in a big bunch of enemies.) For most things, though, an empty channel backed by a wall to prevent projectile fire is sufficient. --[[User:Erom|Erom]] 13:44, 6 March 2008 (EST)

40d Talk:Bed

2008-03-06T14:38:52Z

Erom:

What are the causes of dwarves not sleeping on beds? I've made beds and rooms for my dwarves yet they just go to sleep wherever they are when they get tired. [[User:Yvain|Yvain]] 17:07, 5 March 2008 (EST)

Hunters never seem to use beds. If a dwarf can't afford a room when the economy is turned on, they'll sleep in a barracks, possibly on the floor there. [[User:Bouchart|Bouchart]] 19:38, 5 March 2008 (EST)

Thanks but this was a brand new fortress so no economy and it was all seven of them. And its still happening after getting first migrants. [[User:Yvain|Yvain]] 23:48, 5 March 2008 (EST)

Did you assign each dwarf to a bed? [[User:Robje|Robje]] 09:27, 6 March 2008 (EST)

You usually don't need to assign beds, they'll claim them on their own, however sometimes it will take a few sleep cycles before they do. I think it works something like this - once a dwarf has a bed, he will strongly prefer sleeping there, and will walk the extra distance to it when he gets sleepy. However, if a dwarf without a bed gets sleepy, and is a long walk from any unclaimed beds, he'll just go "Eh, screw it." and sleep on the ground. --[[User:Erom|Erom]] 09:38, 6 March 2008 (EST)

40d Talk:Clothing

2008-02-28T21:36:46Z

Erom:

== masterpiece disentigration ==
Does masterpiece clothing disentigration still cause the maker to get all pissy over it?

If so, then it needs to be added to the article. --[[User:Heliopios|Heliopios]] 13:31, 1 December 2007 (EST)

== mass-produce? discard old clothes? ==
I would like to see something on which clothes players should mass-produce to keep their dwarves happy. I'm really not sure myself. [[User:Mindsnap|Mindsnap]] 15:37, 6 December 2007 (EST)
: I second this request. Do dwarves automatically discard old clothes? It seems that my dwarves are buying new clothes at the stores, but then they still wear there old rotting trousers. --[[User:Mitchy|Mitchy]] 11:01, 9 January 2008 (EST)
::In my experience they would discard old socks and boots, but will wear a dosen rotting dresses at once. Maybe some inv slots have limit on the clothes number, and some not? [[User:Dorten|Dorten]] 23:11, 9 January 2008 (EST)
: I recall a post on the forums that said it's best not to produce clothing at all, and start a dwarven nudist colony. That method is a simple solution that prevents unhappy thoughts from accumulating. I don't think it maximizes happiness, though, as Dwarves get happy thoughts from making satisfying acquisitions. [[User:Non|Non]] 03:50, 5 February 2008 (EST)
:: No good idea. Not having clothes gives an unhappy thought for every separate piece of clothes missing. --[[User:Koltom|Koltom]] 16:00, 18 February 2008 (EST)
:::not so. dwarves get(used to, removed this version) an unhappy thought for LOSING each piece of clothing, but once its gone(or if they started with none) there is no unhappy thought. they are perfectly fine and happy being naked, once the sadness of rotting clothes wears off --[[User:Chariot|Chariot]] 18:30, 18 February 2008 (EST)
:::: I once had the thought "XY was embarrassed to have no shirt lately". cant swear if he had one before that thought or not, but dont rotting clothes give a different thought "emb. about...clothes rot away"? It still might be that he gets that thought only once. --[[User:Koltom|Koltom]] 18:56, 18 February 2008 (EST)

== Artifact Cave Spider Silk Thong ==

All right, given that you probably ''are'' going to make exotic underwear with cave spider silk... couldn't it at least be something that the dwarf who made it was going to ''wear'' rather than something which is rare for humans?

Oh well, when my clothier passes over I will have something fantastic to sell which is also very light I guess![[User:GarrieIrons|GarrieIrons]] 21:47, 2 February 2008 (EST)

== Why bother? ==

Am I missing something? Is there any reason at all to provide new clothes for dwarfs? --[[User:Shadow archmagi|Shadow archmagi]] 09:27, 28 February 2008 (EST)
:You mean other than the fact that if old clothes start to rot the dwarf wearing said clothing gets an unhappy thought? I highly doubt that's been removed since the last version I was semi-familiar with. --[[User:BDR|BDR]] 13:52, 28 February 2008 (EST)
:: Ah. Well, I built a HUGE dining room. Its taken two years to fully smooth it, but now any dwarf who eats instantly becomes either ecstatic, happy, or, if they're whole family was killed and they had to sleep on the ground by the rotting corpses, they might just be content. Wow, writing that once again reminded me how totally R rated this game would be if it were 3d. --[[User:Shadow archmagi|Shadow archmagi]] 16:04, 28 February 2008 (EST)
::BDR- it was taken out in the latest release because of problems. Once it works right, Toady said he was going to bring it back, but for the current version and immediate future, clothes are just a waste of effort.--[[User:Erom|Erom]] 16:36, 28 February 2008 (EST)

40d:Murky pool

2008-02-27T21:05:13Z

Erom:

Murky pools are small pools of [[water]] one [[Z-axis|Z-Level]] deep on the surface of the map. Dwarves with the [[fishing]] job active will attempt to [[fish]] in them. Murky pool can (will?) completely drain in summer. In some [[climate]]s during [[winter]], they will refill themselves fully about the time that [[snow]] melts. This is because any ice that melts will always melt to 1 square of 7/7 water regardless of the amount of water that froze. Drinking from a murky pool will give dwarves an unhappy [[thought]].

==Removing==

A murky pool is difficult to remove. Once drained, murky pools cannot be [[digging|dug]] out or into. [[Channel]] designations cannot be placed on top of murky water tiles, and they cannot be dug up into from beneath.

There are two known ways to remove murky pools:
# Drain the pool and build a dirt [[road]] on the murky tiles. When removed, the murky pool tiles will be gone. (Leaving [[silty clay loam]] or some such). This is the preferred method.
# Dig underneath the murky pool, then dig a channel around the edge so that the pool tiles are connected to [[open space|nothing]]. The tiles will collapse in a pile of rubble, job done. This method does not always work- sometime the muck will simply splatter onto the next level.
# Build a [[floor]] tile on each space of the murky pool, then remove the floor tiles. This is much slower than simply using roads, but will work.

[[Category:map tiles]]

40d:Door

2008-02-26T22:13:59Z

Erom:

'''Doors''' are [[furniture]] which can be built from [[rock]] (at a [[mason's workshop]]), [[wood]] (at a [[carpenter's workshop]]), or [[metal]] (at a [[metalsmith's forge]]). You can also make [[glass]] doors (called '''portals''') at a [[glass furnace]]. The symbol for a stone door is that of a solid tile, the color of its material, with a cross of a different color across it (e.g. {{Raw Tile|┼|Gray|Silver}}) Doors of different materials use different tiles, because Toady hates tileset makers. Glass doors (or portals) use the symbol {{Raw Tile|O|#0f0|#080}}. Metal doors use the symbol {{Raw Tile|╪|#ff0|#880}}. Wood doors use the symbol {{Raw Tile|║|#ccc|#880}}.

Doors made of all [[materials]] function identically, although doors made of more valuable material will increase the "value" of a [[room]] it is used in. High-[[quality]] doors give a happy [[thought]] to any [[dwarf]] seeing them, especially when a door is part of a room that the dwarf personally owns. Items made of a material a dwarf has a [[preference]] for will give an even happier thought.

Doors, when closed, will prevent the passage of fluid ([[water]] and [[magma]]). However, if a dwarf opens the door, the fluid will come spilling through.

== Door settings ==

There are three options one can specify on a door from the {{K|q}} menu:
* {{K|l}} Forbid/Permit Passage
** A door set to Forbidden is impassable to everyone in the game. A door cannot be set Forbidden if the door is open. Invading thieves may lock-pick and bypass a Forbidden door.
* {{K|o}} Keep Tightly Closed/Make Pet-Passable
** A door that is pet-passable allows through traffic of pets. A pet can still pass through a door that is tightly closed if it does so while it is being held open by an object or dwarf. This also affect the door's permeability to wild animals - a tightly closed door is a good way to keep wild animals from blundering into your fort.
* {{K|s}} Set as Internal/External
** A door set to external functions as a [[wall]] when defining boundaries of a room such as a [[bedroom]]. A door set to internal allows the room boundaries to pour over.

== "Building" doors ==

After constructing a door at any of the above workshops, they must be "{{K|b}}uilt" (placed) like all other furniture. Doors can now be placed on any open square adjacent to a wall. Locked doors and [[statue]]s do not count as walls for door-building purposes anymore. For the same result of the statue-door-move statue trick in previous versions to build an infinite line of doors, instead use a constructed wall segment. Doors will not "fall down" when the constructed wall is removed. They will, however, fall down if a non-constructed wall they are attached to is mined out and they have no other support.

== Doors and Construction ==

A door built will not create a floor above it the way a wall will. If construction is to be done above a door, walls, fortifications and floors can be built on top of doors. However, doors cannot be built on top of other doors. Stairs and ramps, of course, cannot be built on top of doors either.

[[Category:Furniture]]

40d Talk:Door

2008-02-23T18:58:51Z

Erom:

The only change I've noticed with doors so far is the placement: Locked doors no longer count as walls for door-placing purposes, and you can place a door in any unblocked space adjacent to a wall. --[[User:BehroozWolf]]

Doors seem to leak water very slowly for me - anyone else notice this? --[[User:Valdemar]]

: I've never observed doors leaking unless someone walks through them.

: Please sign your comments, guys! Four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) will insert your username and the current date. --[[User:JT|JT]] 21:49, 31 October 2007 (EDT)

I've been told that levers can be attached to doors, and that they act much like floodgates with a lever attached. Might want to add something to the article about that - I haven't because I haven't confirmed this yet. [[User:Jp|Jp]] 01:35, 5 November 2007 (EST)

The article says that locked doors prevent dwarves from entering, but does that mean that hostiles can enter them? [[User:Patarak|Patarak]] 21:03, 23 January 2008 (EST)
:The doors aren't actually locked. They are just forbidden. I.e. it's not allowed for dwarves to use them. But they are still just a doors, and enemies can open them. Well... At least this is how I understand this--[[User:Dorten|Dorten]] 23:24, 23 January 2008 (EST)
:Creatures that can open doors cannot open forbidden doors. Trolls can open forbidden doors (by breaking them) [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 23:27, 23 January 2008 (EST)
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::"Creatures that can open doors cannot open forbidden doors" ...unless they are lockpickers. --[[User:N9103|Edward]] 00:47, 24 January 2008 (EST)
LOCKPICKER Lets a creature open doors that are set to forbidden in Fortress Mode.

I may be jumping at straws, but it seems like wild animals won't go through a door that is kept tightly closed (but not forbidden). Can anyone corroborate or am I nuts? --[[User:Erom|Erom]] 13:57, 10 February 2008 (EST)
: I can confirm this now! Tightly closed but not forbidded will allow your dwarves to pass through, but will keep wild animals from wandering into your fort.
--[[User:Erom|Erom]] 13:58, 23 February 2008 (EST)

So do doors have to be locked shut to both dwarves and other animals to keep enemies out in, say, a siege? --[[User:Gh3yz0r|Gh3yz0r]] 11:13, 17 February 2008 (EST)

40d Talk:Wear

2008-02-16T04:49:51Z

Erom:

I thought prepared food wore as well, but a quit check of my stockpiles indicates otherwise.--[[User:Erom|Erom]] 23:48, 15 February 2008 (EST)

40d Talk:Wear

2008-02-16T04:48:44Z

Erom: New page: Pretty sure prepared food wears.--~~~~

Pretty sure prepared food wears.--[[User:Erom|Erom]] 23:48, 15 February 2008 (EST)

User:Erom

2008-02-14T19:59:42Z

Erom: New page: Note: This use page may contain spoilers. Playing since shortly before the 3D version was released. Current project: - Clear a demon pit with a 25 population cap, without using Atom Sma...

Note: This use page may contain spoilers.

Playing since shortly before the 3D version was released.

Current project:
- Clear a demon pit with a 25 population cap, without using Atom Smashers.

Future projects:
- Do the same with a 5 population cap.

40d:Demon

2008-02-13T19:50:11Z

Erom:

40d:Demon

2008-02-13T16:55:27Z

Erom:

40d Talk:Door

2008-02-10T18:57:28Z

Erom: