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2008-11-23T20:44:15Z

Deekin:

{{Choose|c={{#if: {{{1|}}}|{{rand|54}}|{{#expr: ({{rand2|10}}+44)}} }}
|I think I'll stick to drowning dwarves and cooking puppies.
|Toady has created a masterpiece!
|I can't put my finger on it. Something about this [[Fire|‼]]Cat tallow roast[[Fire|‼]] tastes funny.
|Toady withdraws from society. Toady has begun a [[Strange_mood|mysterious]] construction!
|Let us never forget the last words of Inod the Stoker, [http://archive.dwarffortresswiki.net/index.php/Fortress_Paintrag#1056 "Aaah! Gorillas!"]
|[[Children|Newborn]] Zuglar Baldnessgranite prefers to consume Gorilla. A sure sign of his unparalleled strength!
|[http://www.somethingawful.com/d/video-game-article/duke-nukem-image.php In an unrelated article] - I had no idea elephants could bounce that high!
|[[Toady]] looses a roaring laughter, [[Fey|fell]] and terrible! Toady has butchered a spammer!
|[[Elephant]]s are like huge, wrinkly [[ambusher|ninjas]].
|The critical question is this''':''' do elf bones yield more crossbow bolts than the average number of bolts necessary to kill an elf?
|"Dwarf Fortress" ... "Like chess, only with short people that can catch on [[fire]] like [[clothing|rags]] soaked in tar, and lots of [[booze]]." ... "Like chess."
|Dwarf Fortress has taught me that all the world's problems would be substantially reduced had our parent civilizations never minted more than four stacks of [[coins]].
|Booze does all the work in forts. Dwarves are just booze exoskeletons.
|My unconscious and bleeding [[mayor]] just mandated the construction of some goods.
|I can just imagine a wagon throwing a tantrum and tossing all its contents at people.
|Döbesh Udosdeb has been ecstatic lately. He was forced to eat a friend to survive. He enjoyed a truly decadent meal.
|Iron [[screw pump]] exercise equipment. Pump iron and get superdwarvenly strong!
|Only you can prevent fortress fires.
|The violence, aggression, pain, madness, sadness of the ASCII characters never ceases to amaze me...
|Wait, you're MAKING animals? —''Torak'' At this moment, yes, I am smelting cows. —''Spiders Everywhere''
|"Didn't you read the manual? He he he he... the manual... ..." --[[Toady One]]
|(Compared to real-world years) Dwarven years are shorter. --Sowelu Very fitting to dwarves, I must add. --Sean Mirrsen
|[[Magma]] is not a [[water]] source. Dwarves can't drink it or supply it to their wounded. --[[User:AlienChickenPie|AlienChickenPie]]
|"<nowiki>[B]</nowiki>oats are the enemy of tiles. And tiles are the enemy of bloats." --[[Toady One]]
|"I went through and fixed a few places where forbidden/on fire weren't being respected for next time. Burning milkable creatures were still a problem for example." --[[Toady One]]
|"You have been processed! Go forth, now, and edit!" --[[User:Savok|Savok]]
|"What happened in 1048?" "Jreengus occurred."
|Making rock instruments isn't nearly as awesome as it sounds --Shandrunn
|So this pit has had 5/7 water in it for over a month now. How freaking deep do I need to make it to drown that damn kitten?
|Maybe Babies are like Pokemon for [[goblin|Goblins]]... You gotta snatch em all --Neonivek
|The cyclops I was quested to kill had a thousand year history of badassery, and all of that without the leg it lost in the Year 3 (a dwarf bit it off... I should probably deal with that). --[[Toady One]]
|[FIREIMMUNE] makes them think that [[magma]] is safe but doesn't actually make them fireproof. This can lead to some rather interesting results.
|Endok Cerolneth has begun a mysterious construction!
Endok Cerolneth, Planter has given birth to a girl.
|"Incendia sunt socia vestra, armaque vestra, fortesque Montis Domi." "Magma is your ally, your weapon, the strength of the Mountain-Home." --Eita
|"Stopped people from giving quests to kill themselves." --[[Toady One]]
|"...And I simply doubt we have a need for 7 fishery workers. On top of that, a second soap maker. The hell IS soap?!" --Zero
|"This is a terrible pun. All craftsdwarfship is of the poorest quality." - [http://tinyurl.com/6yruly Soup_alex]
|"The default mental state of a dwarf is madness. Sanity is a temporary condition - a PRIVILEGE you have to EARN!" --[[User:Fedor|Fedor]]
|"Why get normal cats? I buy lolcats in the embark screen. Much more fun to engrave about them." --Yanlin
|"DF taught me it was okay to make a suit out of my neighbour's skin, as long as I gave it a name."
|"Got rid of world gen crash during succession after death of prolific long-standing position holders with inbred descendants" --[[Toady One]]
|"There was a typo in the siegers' campfire code. When the fires went out, so did the game." --[[Toady One]]
|"Hey, what does that flashing red and orange text mean? What? Why is there smoke everywhere? Oh god, are those BABIES on fire?" --[[User:StrawberryBunny|StrawberryBunny]]
|''Belbezevost Närangagak Äkig:'' Goatsects the Raw Red Anus of Stretching
|"It's never 'just a game' when you're losing." --George Carlin (if he played Dwarf Fortress)
|Not that building a bridge out of soap makes much sense to begin with anyway.
|Note that while you cannot milk larger animals yourself, civilizations can still milk animals "off screen" for your benefit.
|Tosid Idenarzes likes tentacle demons for their corrupt intentions. "There! Now we've covered all of the seven deadly sins."
|"Hey, you know all those trap components in Fortress mode? You can wield them in Adventurer Mode. I'm DRILLING THE SHIT out of SKELETONS AND ZOMBIES." "You can wield anything in adventurer mode." "I CANNOT HEAR YOU OVER THE SOUND OF ME DRILLING HOLES IN ELVES!"
|"Litast Idenudesh, baby, is throwing a tantrum! Inod Litastrilem, Mayor, has lost consciousness. Inod Litastrilem, Mayor, has bled to death."
|"Known bug #780: Town guard becomes a criminal after getting an adventurer's stolen weapon stuck in his body."
|"The numerous steel bars and fortifications I had installed to prevent river denizens entering my water supply turned out to be completely unnecessary as the snakemen found the entrance to be rather... deeper... than they had expected. Dwarves began complaining about bits of snake in the well soon after."
|"Udib Toblumaid, Axedwarf, cancels sparring in Barracks: too insane." [[User:Ben jamm1n|Ben jamm1n]]
|You'd think that complete lockdown is a good solution to a [[siege]], but although a dwarven fortress may appear self-contained and fully functional, your dwarves have nothing to do but get [[mood]]y, lash out at a world which doesn't understand their needs, get [[hammerer|hammered]], throw funeral receptions, conduct grief counseling sessions, and perform the occasional keg stand.

In short, the [[Invader|attacking army]] can simply wait until your dwarves emo themselves to death.
}}<noinclude>[[Category:Humor and stories]]</noinclude>

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2008-10-29T19:16:06Z

Deekin:

{{Choose|c={{#if: {{{1|}}}|{{rand|65}}|{{#expr: ({{rand2|10}}+55)}} }}
|I think I'll stick to drowning dwarves and cooking puppies.
|Toady has created a masterpiece!
|I can't put my finger on it. Something about this [[Fire|‼]]Cat tallow roast[[Fire|‼]] tastes funny.
|Toady withdraws from society. Toady has begun a [[Strange_mood|mysterious]] construction!
|Let us never forget the last words of Inod the Stoker, [http://archive.dwarffortresswiki.net/index.php/Fortress_Paintrag#1056 "Aaah! Gorillas!"]
|[[Children|Newborn]] Zuglar Baldnessgranite prefers to consume Gorilla. A sure sign of his unparalleled strength!
|[http://www.somethingawful.com/d/video-game-article/duke-nukem-image.php In an unrelated article] - I had no idea elephants could bounce that high!
|[[Toady]] looses a roaring laughter, [[Fey|fell]] and terrible! Toady has butchered a spammer!
|[[Elephant]]s are like huge, wrinkly [[ambusher|ninjas]].
|The critical question is this''':''' do elf bones yield more crossbow bolts than the average number of bolts necessary to kill an elf?
|“Dwarf Fortress" ... "Like chess, only with short people that can catch on [[fire]] like [[clothing|rags]] soaked in tar, and lots of [[booze]]." ... "Like chess.”
|Dwarf Fortress has taught me that all the world's problems would be substantially reduced had our parent civilizations never minted more than four stacks of [[coins]].
|Booze does all the work in forts. Dwarves are just booze exoskeletons.
|My unconscious and bleeding [[mayor]] just mandated the construction of some goods.
|I can just imagine a wagon throwing a tantrum and tossing all its contents at people.
|Döbesh Udosdeb has been ecstatic lately. He was forced to eat a friend to survive. He enjoyed a truly decadent meal.
|Iron [[screw pump]] exercise equipment. Pump iron and get superdwarvenly strong!
|Only you can prevent fortress fires.
|The violence, aggression, pain, madness, sadness of the ASCII characters never ceases to amaze me...
|Wait, you're MAKING animals? —''Torak'' At this moment, yes, I am smelting cows. —''Spiders Everywhere''
|"Didn't you read the manual? He he he he... the manual... ..." --[[Toady One]]
|(Compared to real-world years) Dwarven years are shorter. --Sowelu Very fitting to dwarves, I must add. --Sean Mirrsen
|[[Magma]] is not a [[water]] source. Dwarves can't drink it or supply it to their wounded. --[[User:AlienChickenPie|AlienChickenPie]]
|"<nowiki>[B]</nowiki>oats are the enemy of tiles. And tiles are the enemy of boats." --[[Toady One]]
|"I went through and fixed a few places where forbidden/on fire weren't being respected for next time. Burning milkable creatures were still a problem for example." --[[Toady One]]
|"You have been processed! Go forth, now, and edit!" --[[User:Savok|Savok]]
|"What happened in 1048?" "Jreengus occurred."
|Making rock instruments isn't nearly as awesome as it sounds --Shandrunn
|So this pit has had 5/7 water in it for over a month now. How freaking deep do I need to make it to drown that damn kitten?
|Maybe Babies are like Pokemon for [[goblin|Goblins]]... You gotta snatch em all --Neonivek
|The cyclops I was quested to kill had a thousand year history of badassery, and all of that without the leg it lost in the Year 3 (a dwarf bit it off... I should probably deal with that). --[[Toady One]]
|[FIREIMMUNE] makes them think that [[magma]] is safe but doesn't actually make them fireproof. This can lead to some rather interesting results.
|Endok Cerolneth has begun a mysterious construction!
Endok Cerolneth, Planter has given birth to a girl.
|"Incendia sunt socia vestra, armaque vestra, fortesque Montis Domi." "Magma is your ally, your weapon, the strength of the Mountain-Home." --Eita
|"Stopped people from giving quests to kill themselves." --[[Toady One]]
|"...And I simply doubt we have a need for 7 fishery workers. On top of that, a second soap maker. The hell IS soap?!" --Zero
|"This is a terrible pun. All craftsdwarfship is of the poorest quality." - [http://tinyurl.com/6yruly Soup_alex]
|"The default mental state of a dwarf is madness. Sanity is a temporary condition - a PRIVILEGE you have to EARN!" --[[User:Fedor|Fedor]]
|"Why get normal cats? I buy lolcats in the embark screen. Much more fun to engrave about them." --Yanlin
|"DF taught me it was okay to make a suit out of my neighbour's skin, as long as I gave it a name."
|"Got rid of world gen crash during succession after death of prolific long-standing position holders with inbred descendants" --[[Toady One]]
|"There was a typo in the siegers' campfire code. When the fires went out, so did the game." --[[Toady One]]
|"Hey, what does that flashing red and orange text mean? What? Why is there smoke everywhere? Oh god, are those BABIES on fire?" --[[User:StrawberryBunny|StrawberryBunny]]
|''Belbezevost Närangagak Äkig:'' 
|"It's never 'just a game' when you're losing." --George Carlin (if he played Dwarf Fortress)
|It would be incredibly difficult and probably wouldn't work... In other words, it's absolutely Dwarven!
|Not that building a bridge out of soap makes much sense to begin with anyway.
|Mill their bones to make some bread.
|I can't say what happened at Site 76. Ask the government. --[[Toady One]]
|"After I finished the last quest he had for me, he told me 'When you wake up in the morning, go with Bengel Trustbite the Feral Armors.' So now I'm carrying around the body as a backup throwing weapon." - [[Demonic Gophers]]
|"The wolf's nose has been pierced!"
|"Domesticating Giant Cave Spiders? Ha ha. Aha haha ha ha. No." --[[User:Idiom|Idiom]]
|I mean, how dangerous can an elephant be, anyway?
|Beware of the Elephant's greatest evolutionary trait: [http://archive.dwarffortresswiki.net/index.php/Talk:Elephant#Stealth_Elephants Stealth].
|Wolf cancels Breathe: Interrupted by ≡Ash Bolt≡.
|There's no wrong way to eat a [[Rhesus macaque|Rhesus]].
|"I started my fortress in preparation for the goblin invasion. To my dismay, they arrived instead with a trade caravan and a friendly wave. I'm thoroughly disappointed in their lack of genocide." --[[User:Idiom|Idiom]]
|Tobul Dumatfath, Fisherdwarf cancels Fish: Interrupted by [[carp]].
|Known bug #1000: Liaison with missing foot brings a new sock and shoe every time, dropping them at the map edge.
|Note that while you cannot milk larger animals yourself, civilizations can still milk animals "off screen" for your benefit.
|"Oh, you worship Id Taughtletter The Age of Forever? Ha! I killed her last year! Small world!" --Dadamh
|Tosid Idenarzes likes tentacle demons for their corrupt intentions. "There! Now we've covered all of the seven deadly sins."
|"So they'd be shooting things, and suddenly they'd go STOP! HAMMERTIME!"
|There are 5 articles in category "Lore" :Armok, Cave adaptation, Elephant, Philosopher and Vomit.
| "Hey, you know all those trap components in Fortress mode? You can wield them in Adventurer Mode. I'm DRILLING THE SHIT out of SKELETONS AND ZOMBIES."
"You can wield anything in adventurer mode."
"I CANNOT HEAR YOU OVER THE SOUND OF ME DRILLING HOLES IN ELVES!"
}}

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2008-08-13T23:11:00Z

Deekin:

{{Choose|c={{#if: {{{1|}}}|{{rand|42}}|{{#expr: ({{rand2|10}}+32)}} }}
|I think I'll stick to drowning dwarves and cooking puppies.
|Toady has created a masterpiece!
|I can't put my finger on it. Something about this [[Fire|‼]]Cat tallow roast[[Fire|‼]] tastes funny.
|Toady withdraws from society. Toady has begun a [[Strange_mood|mysterious]] construction!
|Let us never forget the last words of Inod the Stoker, [http://archive.dwarffortresswiki.net/index.php/Fortress_Paintrag#1056 "Aaah! Gorillas!"]
|[[Children|Newborn]] Zuglar Baldnessgranite prefers to consume Gorilla. A sure sign of his unparalleled strength!
|[http://www.somethingawful.com/d/video-game-article/duke-nukem-image.php In an unrelated article] - I had no idea elephants could bounce that high!
|[[Toady]] looses a roaring laughter, [[Fey|fell]] and terrible! Toady has butchered a spammer!
|[[Elephant]]s are like huge, wrinkly [[ambusher|ninjas]].
|The critical question is this''':''' do elf bones yield more crossbow bolts than the average number of bolts necessary to kill an elf?
|“Dwarf Fortress" ... "Like chess, only with short people that can catch on [[fire]] like [[clothing|rags]] soaked in tar, and lots of [[booze]]." ... "Like chess.”
|Dwarf Fortress has taught me that all the world's problems would be substantially reduced had our parent civilizations never minted more than four stacks of [[coins]].
|"Tosid Idenarzes likes tentacle demons for their corrupt intentions." There! Now we've covered all of the seven deadly sins.
|Booze does all the work in forts. Dwarves are just booze exoskeletons.
|My unconscious and bleeding [[mayor]] just mandated the construction of some goods.
|I can just imagine a wagon throwing a tantrum and tossing all its contents at people.
|Döbesh Udosdeb has been ecstatic lately. He was forced to eat a friend to survive. He enjoyed a truly decadent meal.
|Iron [[screw pump]] exercise equipment. Pump iron and get superdwarvenly strong!
|Only you can prevent fortress fires.
|The violence, aggression, pain, madness, sadness of the ASCII characters never ceases to amaze me...
|Mill their bones to make some bread.
|Wait, you're MAKING animals? —''Torak'' At this moment, yes, I am smelting cows. —''Spiders Everywhere''
|"Didn't you read the manual? He he he he... the manual... ..." --[[Toady One]]
|(Compared to real-world years) Dwarven years are shorter. --Sowelu Very fitting to dwarves, I must add. --Sean Mirrsen
|[[Magma]] is not a [[water]] source. Dwarves can't drink it or supply it to their wounded. --[[User:AlienChickenPie|AlienChickenPie]]
|"<nowiki>[B]</nowiki>oats are the enemy of tiles. And tiles are the enemy of boats." --[[Toady One]]
|"I went through and fixed a few places where forbidden/on fire weren't being respected for next time. Burning milkable creatures were still a problem for example." --[[Toady One]]
|"You have been processed! Go forth, now, and edit!" --[[User:Savok|Savok]]
|"What happened in 1048?" "[[Adventurer mode|Jreengus]] occurred."
|Making rock instruments isn't nearly as awesome as it sounds --Shandrunn
|So this pit has had 5/7 water in it for over a month now. How freaking deep do I need to make it to drown that damn kitten?
|Maybe Babies are like Pokemon for [[goblin|Goblins]]... You gotta snatch em all --Neonivek
|The cyclops I was quested to kill had a thousand year history of badassery, and all of that without the leg it lost in the Year 3 (a dwarf bit it off... I should probably deal with that). --[[Toady One]]
|[FIREIMMUNE] makes them think that [[magma]] is safe but doesn't actually make them fireproof. This can lead to some rather interesting results.
|I can't say what happened at Site 76. Ask the government. --[[Toady One]]
|Endok Cerolneth has begun a mysterious construction!
Endok Cerolneth, Planter has given birth to a girl.
|"Incendia est socia vestri, arma vestri, fortes Montis Domi." "Magma is your ally, your weapon, the strength of the Mountain-Home." --Eita
|"stopped people from giving quests to kill themselves." --[[Toady One]]
|"After I finished the last quest he had for me, he told me 'When you wake up in the morning, go with Bengel Trustbite the Feral Armors.' So now I'm carrying around the body as a backup throwing weapon." - [[Demonic Gophers]]
|"...And I simply doubt we have a need for 7 fishery workers. On top of that, a second soap maker. The hell IS soap?!" --[[Distantcity#Year_2:_Zero|Zero]]
|"This is a terrible pun. All craftsdwarfship is of the poorest quality." - [http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=21449.msg239558#msg239558 Soup_alex]
|"The default mental state of a dwarf is madness. Sanity is a temporary condition - a PRIVILEGE you have to EARN!" --[[Fedor]]
}}

40d:River

2008-08-11T23:14:26Z

Deekin: /* Underground Rivers */

== Surface Rivers ==

'''Rivers''' are found on the surface of world maps. They vary in width and depth, some being more wide and some being more deep than others. They often flow through deep canyons or just across the flat surface of a level. On levels with [[cliff]]s, [[waterfall|waterfalls]] may be found.

'''Major rivers, Minor rivers, Streams and Brooks'''''

On the surface of the world you can find four different types of rivers.

*Major Rivers are distinguished by a "=" as opposed to a "-". Some worlds have no Major Rivers so they can be considered quite valuable. Usually they have minor river tributaries and can often feed large [[lake]]s. Major rivers are much wider than regular rivers. Besides this, the difference (if any) between major and minor rivers has yet to be discovered. However major rivers are believed to lower the fps.

*Minor Rivers are dark blue and usually have tributaries of brooks.

*Streams are light blue and often converge with other streams, and have some tributaries of brooks.

*[[Brook]]s are not visible on the region map. They are the smallest flowing body of [[water]] that can be found ingame. Brooks have a special water designation, [[dwarves]] and other units are capable of walking through a brook. Brooks are very common, almost every tile around a stream or larger river will have a brook running through it.

[[Image:Watersystems01.jpg|298px|thumb|Different sorts of rivers in action]]

== Underground Rivers ==

An underground river is, obviously, a river found [[underground]]. They are <strike>hard to find</strike>easier to find in the current version of Dwarf Fortress, due to the introduction of the site finder

If you are lucky enough to find a cave river, [[tower-cap]]s will start sprouting in [[soil]] or [[mud]]dy caverns. You can use it as the basis of an [[underground forest]] operation.

It is also possible to find cave rivers or pools which are actually visible from the surface - you may even see a few [[tower-cap]]s growing on the surface. This may be rather rare, however, and cannot be spotted from site-selection. (You can tell it's a cave river/pool because of the frogmen or what-have-you in it)

== Other Important Facts ==

*Rivers presumably contain an unlimited amount of water and cannot be drained. They can, however, be dammed if you can *temporarily* drain part of them to 1/7 or less for long enough to install [[floodgate]]s. For some reason, rivers will not overflow floodgates which are blocking them. The water just... stops. This demonstrates one way to drain and dam a river: [http://mkv25.net/dfma/movie-196-draininganddammingamajorriver-i]. Another way to dam a river is to direct a lava flow into it, producing obsidian in the squares where it encounters water.
*Rivers often contain an abundance of [[fishing|fish]], including highly dangerous dwarf-killing fish such as [[carp]], [[pike]], [[longnose gar]], etc.
*See [[water]].

{{World}}

[[Category:Map tiles]][[category:Water bodies]][[Category:World]]

Utility Talk:Tweak

2008-08-01T19:44:48Z

Deekin: /* New Versions */

== Suggested Addition(s) ==

How hard would it be to adapt [http://www.dwarffortresswiki.net/index.php/Utilities#Regional_Prospector Regional Prospector] [http://www.dwarffortresswiki.net/index.php/User_talk:0x517A5D#Seekret_Projekt 1] [http://www.dwarffortresswiki.net/index.php/User:0x517A5D#Seekret_Projekt 2] to this application? 
From what I've seen of your newest tool, it looks like it should become the standard for future 'tweaks' :p 
Thanks tons for your contributions to the cause! --[[User:N9103|Edward]] 19:41, 24 March 2008 (EDT)

Oh, and one other idea...
Perhaps a small readme/guide for each of the tools? 
Something like those on the Utilities page would be fine. 

: It could probably be easily ported but I'm not sure I want to take someone elses work so quickly for Tweak. I am working on that kind of a list (see the Tile Edit link on the core modules list). —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 19:49, 24 March 2008 (EDT)

::List? RP doesn't make lists that I know of. And I know TileEdit can create magma/lava (which one is it btw? lava I'm guessing, since I don't think it can create a replenishing pipe in it's current form.) but unless I really get desperate, I'm not going to make a huge pool of lava to tap for various oddities. (i.e. traps/constructions) TileEdit's great for occasionally making a single tile of the stuff when it'd otherwise be a pain to get the liquid to the desired point, or for replenishing an already small source. Unless you're planning on making TileEdit capable of modifying regional tiles, (or alternatively, working like a designation for many tiles at once...) I don't see how it could relate to what RP does. --[[User:N9103|Edward]] 17:31, 29 March 2008 (EDT)

:::As far as I can tell, the list in question is a list of readmes/guides like those on the Utilities page.
:::Magma = lava in an underground square. Lava = magma in an aboveground square. They are identical in all but name. --[[User:Savok|Savok]] 19:52, 29 March 2008 (EDT)

::::Is there an as yet unidentified flag that causes replenishment? --[[User:N9103|Edward]] 00:15, 31 March 2008 (EDT)

:::By 'list' I meant looking up what mineral types, etc, are in the current map. The module is called 'Survey', for obvious reasons. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 00:39, 30 March 2008 (EDT)

::::Hmm.. well, unless you plan on doing that at an embark level, (as opposed to the in-fort level it sounds like,) it still won't be duplicating any effects that RP currently does. --[[User:N9103|Edward]] 00:15, 31 March 2008 (EDT)

::::: I don't intend to duplicate the features of it. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 01:04, 31 March 2008 (EDT)

== Help for the Noob(s) ==

Just downloaded the tweaker after some confusion, for the sake of healing the sole broker of my fort so he can get up and trade smartly enough to save my fort (to be filled with lava, but that's beside the point). Once I started it on up, all the modules but the address lookup were red, and the lookup only turns up <address name="starting_dwarf_count" value="0x00f77927"'.

I'm not entirely sure where to go from here... Any guide forthcoming?

: Red modules mean they are incompatible, I'm going to assume you are running on .38b, the latest is .38c, which Tweak has full support for. I did not bother to provide full support for .38b. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 05:34, 29 March 2008 (EDT)

== Error report ==

For some reason, the latest version (1.2.0.1) crashes whenever I try to run it. This is with or without DF running. Version 1.1.0.0 on the other hand worked fine for me, and still does. This is the debugging info returned for the crash in 1.2.0.1:
An unhandled exception of type 'System.IO.FileNotFoundException' occurred in Gibbed.DwarfFortress.Tweak.exe

Additional information: Could not load file or assembly
'System.Core, Version=3.5.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b77a5c561934e089'
or one of its dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified.
This is with it directly extracted from the zip with proper folder structure, no changes made. I've also tried moving it out to a root folder on the drive in case the long path was confusing it with no success. --[[User:Janus|Janus]] 01:04, 1 April 2008 (EDT)

: Sounds like you don't have .NET 3.5 installed. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 01:53, 1 April 2008 (EDT)

:: Did version 1.1.0.0 not require it? That version has been working fine, and I could have sworn I had to install the .NET 3.5 Framework to get it working.
:: However, whatever the case, I've just (re?)installed the 3.5 framework and that does indeed seem to have taken care of it. Thanks. --[[User:Janus|Janus]] 02:38, 1 April 2008 (EDT)

::: I wasn't using any features of 3.5 yet -- which changed with 1.2.0.0. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 03:40, 1 April 2008 (EDT)

Found an error in the adjust profile module, happens when I click the "reset profile" button when "reset/read/write all" is checked.
System.ArgumentException: 'child' is not a child control of this parent.
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlCollection.GetChildIndex(Control child, Boolean throwException)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlCollection.GetChildIndex(Control child)
at Rinn.DwarfFortress.Tools.AdjustProfile.Configuration.textBox_TextChanged(Object sender, EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnTextChanged(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.TextBoxBase.OnTextChanged(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.set_Text(String value)
at System.Windows.Forms.TextBoxBase.set_Text(String value)
at System.Windows.Forms.TextBox.set_Text(String value)
at Rinn.DwarfFortress.Tools.AdjustProfile.Configuration.buttonReset_Click(Object sender, EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnClick(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnClick(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mevent)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ButtonBase.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Button.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)
[[User:Cheapweed|Cheapweed]] 18:01, 12 April 2008 (EDT)

: Please report that [[User_talk:Rinn/AdjustProfile|on Rinn's AdjustProfile talk page]] —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 22:33, 12 April 2008 (EDT)

== NET 3.5 Compatability ==
Just a quick FYI: Those of us on 2000 cannot (as far as I've been able to determine) install .NET 3.5, which makes it impossible to use the latest version of Tweak. Keeping the 1.1 version online maintains availability of this invaluable tool to those of us who refuse to be infected with the XP virus. —[[User:Rochndil|Rochndil]] 14:49, 3 April 2008 (EDT)

: While I do use .NET 3.5 features, I will see if I can move to .NET 2.0 (or make a 2.0 compatible version). —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 22:58, 3 April 2008 (EDT)

: Or leave it. Seeing as its an 8 year old Operating system that you can't buy any more. More to the point if you are running DF your computer is more than adequate for running Windows XP. --[[User:Gorfob|Gorfob]] 19:00, 14 July 2008 (EDT)

== Blue modules ==
I just installed Tweak for the first time and I seem to have a problem. The buttons beside all the modules are blue, not green like in the picture, and the modules don't appear to do anything. I am running DF version 0.27.176.38c and Tweak version 1.2.0.0. I tied to update to version 1.2.0.1 but it still shows as the old version.

: If your Tile Edit is 1.1, not 1.0, you have 1.2.0.1. As for blue modules, you need to 'Select Process' before you can use anything. There is an option to automatically select a process on startup. Once you do this, modules will either turn red or green as like before. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 22:58, 3 April 2008 (EDT)

== Windows Installer 3.1 ==

It says I need Windows Installer 3.1. Help? --[[User:Savok|Savok]] 19:12, 3 April 2008 (EDT)

:Tweak does, or the .NET 3.5 install does? —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 22:58, 3 April 2008 (EDT)

::Sorry. .NET 3.5 install does. --[[User:Savok|Savok]] 11:41, 4 April 2008 (EDT)

:::What operating system are you using? [http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=889482fc-5f56-4a38-b838-de776fd4138c&displaylang=en Windows Installer 3.1 Redistributable] —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 12:16, 4 April 2008 (EDT)

::::Windows XP Home Edition Version 2002 Service Pack 2.
::::Out of curiosity, what does that 3.1 installer do? --[[User:Savok|Savok]] 15:55, 4 April 2008 (EDT)

:::::It's for MSI installers I would assume. Though I'm not sure how you don't have the Windows Installer 3.1 on XP. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 22:49, 4 April 2008 (EDT)

== Freezing Tile Edit ==

For some reason, whenever I edit a tile using the Tile Edit programme, the next dwarf to step on the tile freezes to death (as will the many dwarves who come to loot the corpse). In the tile edit window, in the temperature section, it shows 0 in the first box (always) and another number of around 12000 in the second. The values by themselves give no indication as to the temperature, and even when I leave them alone, simply changing the tile will result in it becoming a freezing tile of death.
I have no idea if anyone else is experiencing this with tile edit, or whether I'm doing something horribly wrong.
{{unsigned|Maw3193}}

:I get this whenever I try to add water to a square. The water freezes into a block of absolute-zero ice, and freezes to death anybody who steps on it. It doesn't happen when I add magma, or change magma depth. The title bar says version 1.2.0.0, but TileEdit is 1.1 so I guess it's actually 1.2.0.1 (see above) [[User:Anydwarf|Anydwarf]] 12:56, 17 April 2008 (EDT)
::Tile Edit is broken like this. You need to manually set a temperature for EVERY tile you edit. Rick, fix it! >8( --[[User:GreyMario|GreyMario]] 15:44, 3 May 2008 (EDT)
::Also, as an addendum, the top temperature is the NEW temperature for the tile, the bottom temperature is the CURRENT temperature. --[[User:GreyMario|GreyMario]] 15:45, 3 May 2008 (EDT)
::It's not just absolute-zero. According to the Dwarf Fortress temperature scale, it's over nine thousand degrees below absolute-zero :) – [[template:unsigned|unsigned]] comment by [[User:Maw3193|Maw3193]]

:::Before editing any of the tile, press Reset first, it should fill the first temperature in for you. --[[User:SP2|SP2]] 19:20, 7 May 2008 (EDT)

::::Still doesn't work for me, I've tried all of this. I've set the temperature about five different times.. still the freezing tile of DOOM. --[[User:Jaxstrife|Jaxstrife]] 20:51, 7 May 2008 (EDT)

:::::I've identified the bug and it will be fixed in the next release. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 08:16, 9 May 2008 (EDT)

== Developer page ==

I'm interested in making a module for Tweak, will there be more info soon about contributing to it?
(if there is a page I couldn't find that talks about it, feel free to let me know :)
--[[User:Corc|Corc]]

: There hasn't really been any demand for it, but now that there is I'll fill out some info for you. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 01:33, 27 April 2008 (EDT)

:: [[User:Rick/Tweak/Development|I've added some preliminary information to the development page]]. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 17:41, 30 April 2008 (EDT)

How easy would it be to get started with writing a module? I assume Tweak handles the memory editing, but does it hand the module a bunch of bytes, or a fully parsed structure? I'd be interested in at least trying to write up a module.. Maybe you could just post the source for Heal or one of the other simple modules. [[User:Anydwarf|Anydwarf]] 18:57, 29 April 2008 (EDT)

I would just like to add my vote for a .NET 2.0 version since 3+ causes severe problems on my system trying to connect to M$ all the time :P

:I downloaded 3.5 and even got the express versions of Visual Studio to play with. I believe there is an option to "check" when you install that will stop it from contacting MS--I was asked a few times.
:--[[User:Corc|Corc]] 23:57, 28 April 2008 (EDT)

: Tweak's memory access doesn't deal with structures, but does allow for easy reading of common data types (and raw memory, if that's your deal). Reading structures may come in the future, though. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 17:41, 30 April 2008 (EDT)

== Adjust Start: Less Than Seven Dwarves Crashes Game Upon Embarking ==

Crash replicated on two different computers both running windows XP both using .38c version of DF. Different parameter set worlds and different local areas still results in crash, as does both embarking carefully and not carefully. When it crashes I get an error message from windows saying that "dwarffort.exe has encountered a problem and needs to close." I have tested this for 1, 4, and 6 dwarves with the game crashing, and found that with 10 dwarves it did not crash.

== Reveal ==

(Debated about putting this here or on your sample code discussion.) To test out making a new module (very easy btw, awesome) I modified reveal to just reveal interesting stuff like ore and gems. Instead of releasing a whole new (very similar and 99% your code) module maybe you could add a quick if statement/popup that people could check when they run it? Basically what I did was inside the nested for loops I added in getting the "type" data and if the type was for an event, <code>B8 01</code>, then I'd let it do your unhide bit.

<pre>
memory.Read(block + designation, ref data);
memory.Read(block + typeoffset, ref types); // added types, half the size of data, (256 * 2)
for (int i = 0; i < 16 * 16; i++)
{
byte[] temp = BitConverter.GetBytes(BitConverter.ToInt16(types, i * 2)); // actual type
if (temp[0] == 184) // I found that 0xB8 is all that is needed to check
{
byte[] newdata = BitConverter.GetBytes(BitConverter.ToUInt32(data, i * 4) & ~0x200);
data[(i * 4) + 0] = newdata[0];
data[(i * 4) + 1] = newdata[1];
data[(i * 4) + 2] = newdata[2];
data[(i * 4) + 3] = newdata[3];
}
}
</pre>

This unhides only Gems, Ore, "Special" Stone like Orthocast, adamantine and any other out of the ordinary biome stone.

I thought about making a crazy convoluted module that would scan the map for types of events and let the user enable the ones they wanted unhidden and then unhide them. But, after going into the event list and finding event IDs (I've got a complete list now) I found it to be too crazy... actually as I typed that I figured out how I could do it with about a forth of what I had coded earlier.
--[[User:Corc|Corc]] 04:04, 11 May 2008 (EDT)

== .NET install freeze? ==

Does .NET ever finish installing? As I write this it's been sitting with a full progress bar for 35 minutes, and took an inordinate amount of time to even get there. (And the bootstrap downloader was completely unusable, kept losing progress.) 
As far as I can tell, it's not even spinning the HDD... though it went through long periods of that before, too. 
Addendum: Rebooting on its own didn't help, but rebooting and aggressively killing running processes down to the bare-bones did... finally.– [[template:unsigned|unsigned]] comment by [[User:Shurhaian|Shurhaian]]

:That's some highly unusual behavior, and I would recommend a through virus and adware scan using atleast two versions of each. 
:For Viruses, [http://housecall.trendmicro.com/ Trend Micro] has a good online scanner, and [http://free.grisoft.com/ AVG] is a good offline scanner. 
:For Adware, [http://www.safer-networking.org/en/spybotsd/index.html Spybot S&D] is just about as good as it gets, and [http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/default.mspx Microsoft] has a semi-decent one as well. 
:All of these are free. Hope this helps! If not, *could be* some core OS files have been damaged somehow, and *may* require a re-install. --[[User:N9103|Edward]] 21:40, 14 May 2008 (EDT)

== Another on the 3.5 bug list ==

Allright; I have .net Framework 3.5 installed and its giving me the same error a guy midway up had;
the.......... IO.notfound thing

Okay scratch that i unzipped tweak again and its running fine.
it seems tweak doesnt like XP.

Your program has good tastes sir.

== Problem not otherwise found on here. ==
When trying to select a process, I get this error. Net framework 3.5 is installed.
<pre>
************** Exception Text **************
System.Reflection.TargetInvocationException: Exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation. ---> System.InvalidOperationException: This implementation is not part of the Windows Platform FIPS validated cryptographic algorithms.
at System.Security.Cryptography.MD5CryptoServiceProvider..ctor()
--- End of inner exception stack trace ---
at System.RuntimeMethodHandle._InvokeConstructor(Object[] args, SignatureStruct& signature, IntPtr declaringType)
at System.RuntimeMethodHandle.InvokeConstructor(Object[] args, SignatureStruct signature, RuntimeTypeHandle declaringType)
at System.Reflection.RuntimeConstructorInfo.Invoke(BindingFlags invokeAttr, Binder binder, Object[] parameters, CultureInfo culture)
at System.Security.Cryptography.CryptoConfig.CreateFromName(String name, Object[] args)
at System.Security.Cryptography.MD5.Create(String algName)
at System.Security.Cryptography.MD5.Create()
at Gibbed.DwarfFortress.Tweak.GameVersionLoader.GetProcessHash(Process process)
at Gibbed.DwarfFortress.Tweak.ModulePicker.onSelectProcess(Object sender, EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.RaiseEvent(Object key, EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripButton.OnClick(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.HandleClick(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.HandleMouseUp(MouseEventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.FireEventInteractive(EventArgs e, ToolStripItemEventType met)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.FireEvent(EventArgs e, ToolStripItemEventType met)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStrip.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mea)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ScrollableControl.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStrip.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)
</pre>

:What version of windows are you running? —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 20:47, 13 July 2008 (EDT)

== .NET 3.5 errors: Tweak not Vista compatiale? ==

I have installed .NET 3.5 and tried to run Tweak on my computer. However, It instantly crashes. Is there anything else I should have installed? I am running windows Vista.

Thanks.

:Can you please paste the exact error, I cannot help with problems without knowing specifics. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 20:46, 13 July 2008 (EDT)

I Have the exact same problem, the error is the default vista error. i think this only happens with the newest version of tweak, as i used to beable to run it (though the tile editor never ran for me) —[[User:Corhen|Corhen]] 8:55, 15 July 2008

==Start Error==
Opening Tweak, the program crashes. There's no error message per se, it just doesn't open and give the default windows error message, and asks me if I want to send a report. Help?

:you need to install separately .NET 1.1 as well as .NET 2.0, .NET 3.5 does not install these previous versions....

Even with all versions of .NET that exist already installed, Tweak crashed on startup. I am using an up-to-date version of WinXP SP3. I hope that it causes no problems that I unfortunately have a German language version of XP. Proof of installed .NET versions: http://members.arstechnica.com/x/dio82/software.png

Error message:

EventType : clr20r3 P1 : gibbed.dwarffortress.tweak.exe P2 : 1.2.0.0
P3 : 47f19dc1 P4 : mscorlib P5 : 2.0.0.0 P6 : 471ebc5b P7 : 3404
P8 : 119 P9 : system.io.directorynotfound

Many thanks to potential fixes -[[User:Dio82|Dio82]] 08:36, 4 July 2008 (EDT)

I'd just like to note that I also have all three .NET versions downloaded and installed, and I still get the general Windows Vista error message (Tweak has stopped working, windows is searching for a solution... A program caused the program to stop working, windows will close the program). I've tried starting up Tweak before loading DF, during the DF title screen, and while playing a current fortress. I didn't, however, get the detailed error message described above. --[[User:Untelligent|Untelligent]] 21:57, 4 July 2008 (EDT)

:The above error message is part of the report that XP/Vista wants to send to Microsoft. Just click on details of the report when Vista prompts you about sending that report. --[[User:Dio82|Dio82]] 06:05, 5 July 2008 (EDT)

:It didn't prompt me for sending a report. --[[User:Untelligent|Untelligent]] 16:17, 6 July 2008 (EDT)

:This error is basically saying you did not extract Tweak correctly, the Tweak zip file contains several directories that Tweak needs to function correctly. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 20:46, 13 July 2008 (EDT)

==Reveal and Profile Edit Issue==

I've downloaded your program and managed to get a few features working, such as the one that allows you to change your starting dwarf number and points. The two modules I wanted to use most, however, Reveal and Profile Edit, don't seem to want to work at all, and as far as I can tell, I'm not getting a program error so much as... I don't know, a failure to recognize something. I'm not a programmer, you'll notice.

When attempting to use Reveal at the regional map, I get [http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b296/Bitscape2000/RevealProblem.jpg this].

When attempting to use the Profile Editor at the "preparing carefully" screen, as it says, I get [http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b296/Bitscape2000/ProfileProblem.jpg this], and if I click the OK button it says [http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b296/Bitscape2000/ProfileProblem2.jpg this].

Apologies for the largish screenshots. Any idea what might help? --[[User:Anfini|Anfini]] 15:57, 11 July 2008 (EDT)

: The Reveal tool is only used while already embarked. Find a place to start your fortress, embark, and then run Reveal. And, keep in mind if you want to reveal all of the map you have to designate the bottom layer for digging completely then undesignated it BEFORE you run reveal--this will make DF load up the map for Reveal to find. As for the other errors, I'm not sure what is going on. Sorry. --[[User:Corc|Corc]] 18:36, 11 July 2008 (EDT)

::Thanks for the help with Reveal, that worked perfectly. I suppose I misunderstood the module. The Profile dealie is the one I ''really'' want to use, though! If anyone has insight on how to work it, I would be grateful. Thanks! --[[User:Anfini|Anfini]] 19:24, 11 July 2008 (EDT)

== Tile Edit Tile ID List ==

Further explorations with Tweak leave me convinced we're missing another memory location that holds each block's type. Sandy clay Wall in one area doesn't match up with the data I gathered for my table of IDs, and there isn't enough data to be customized in Tile Edit to account for all the possibilities of ores and gems. Unfortunately I'm not knowledgable enough, nor am I patient enough, to find this memory location. →[[User:Valarnin|Valarnin]] 19:37, 16 July 2008 (EDT)

: Tile composition and gem type are special cases that are not held in tile data, and they have not been completely understood. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 19:58, 16 July 2008 (EDT)

:: Actually Gems and ore are understood. They are considered Events (from the memory hack page terms) and are flagged by a bitmap. The code sample I posted above, to add in finding only deposits of ore to Reveal, uses another 16x16 array to specify quickly that an event is taking place in that tile--then checks the bitmaps for what kind of ore (gem/ore/whatever) goes there. The events use the global tile ids which it gets from the raw files (and is in the order read in from those raw files). Using events you can add any type of deposit to the tile area (add sand to obsidian). When I was looking into the TileIDs I came to the conclusion that the IDs are in a pattern and the type of rock/soil is dependent on the biome set for that tile. IDs X -> Y for example will always be smooth walls, just of main biome material. What designates the Biome is probably another one of the 16x16 blocks of data--I just got on a side track and never figured out which one for sure. To test/confirm this, try finding a value that changes a stone type to a soil type then give that same soil TileID to a different kind of stone on another layer--it should turn into a soil type as well, but most likely not the same kind as before. Doing that on the first 2 layers of the map will make it easier since it usually has both rock and soil from the same biome. I started documenting this on my user page. --[[User:Corc|Corc]] 20:34, 16 July 2008 (EDT)

::: I'm not sure why you wrote that blurb instead of linking to my page on it. I know the gem stuff is known, I should have been more clear, I meant the composition/type regional layer muckery. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 20:51, 16 July 2008 (EDT)

::::Sorry 'bout that. Which page are you talking about? There are so many, that when I was looking for info I really didn't know where to look for valid info. I wrote the blurb because he was talking about gems and ore specifically, and I guess I misunderstood your response. --[[User:Corc|Corc]] 21:34, 16 July 2008 (EDT)

::::: [[User:Rick/Memory_research#Mineral_Event]] —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 22:01, 16 July 2008 (EDT)

:::::: OK, great, I wasn't sure if there was a newer one made. Now Valarnin has a link and a short explanation to go with it. So now he may be inspired to continue having fun digging in the memory :) --[[User:Corc|Corc]] 00:38, 17 July 2008 (EDT)

::::::: I'm not sure I understand exactly what's going on there. Is the vector a pointer to the mineral event's location? It would be so much easier if this was mapped out in Tile Edit. Speaking of Tile Edit, is the source available? I may be able to modify it to show the extra info. →[[User:Valarnin|Valarnin]] 13:37, 17 July 2008 (EDT)

::::::: Okay, I built Corc's modification to Reveal and learned a bit from that, but I have no example of a GUI and I'm a C++ programmer, not a C# programmer. I need an example of a GUI. →[[User:Valarnin|Valarnin]] 14:11, 17 July 2008 (EDT)

:::::::: I was trying to do something similar myself. Just in case you didn't see it, here is a link to Rick's Dev discussion ([[User_Talk:Rick/Tweak/Development]]) which might be a better place to talk about all this. What I did was just go through the c# gui sample and copy and paste stuff in while reading about what does what. --[[User:Corc|Corc]] 14:26, 17 July 2008 (EDT)

== New Versions ==
Any Idea when we will have an update for the most recent versions? What is needed? What do us Noobs do to get it to work?--[[User:ERoberts|ERoberts]] 13:58, 17 July 2008 (EDT)

: I'm currently busy "in real life" with work so I can't tend to Tweak for the latest version of DF just yet. Aside from minor bugs with Tweak modules (such as the freezing bug with Tile Edit) there is no need for an update other than providing Tweak with data for the version you want to use it with. You can probably find the information needed for Tweak's XML files for the new version on Jifodus's user page. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 05:20, 18 July 2008 (EDT)

:: Sorry its been a while since I've done this, do I still just put that info in a memory.ini file?

::: I've got something to do today, but if no one has done it yet, I'll try to get something available later tonight for people. --[[User:Corc|Corc]] 11:42, 18 July 2008 (EDT)

:::: You get the hash for the newest version, open up versions.xml, and add a new line such as this:
<version name="0.27.176.39c" hash="8f8cf06b1cd5ea102881a7cced767d4f" />
:::: Then, you copy the newest version's folder you have in the versions folder and rename it to the newest version. Finally, you change the data in each xml file to match Jifodus's user page. I've uploaded the newest versions and the versions.xml file for 39b and 39c here:
http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=309
:::: However, I couldn't get anything to do with creatures to work. I couldn't seem to find a value to put in for race_vector from Jifodus's page. Corc, if you happen to know, tell me and I'll update the file.

::::: Sorry to drop the ball. I don't think I could do much more than what was done already without spending a lot of time I don't have. Very grateful to whoever set that up (post your sig next time :P) --[[User:Corc|Corc]] 00:32, 20 July 2008 (EDT)

:::::: T'was me. I was a bit tired when I posted that. You could have checked the uploader on DFFD too. →[[User:Valarnin|Valarnin]] 02:47, 20 July 2008 (EDT)

::::::: Any chance of getting compatibility with 39e? --[[User:Deekin|Deekin]] 15:44, 1 August 2008 (EDT)

User:Chariot

2008-07-29T19:43:50Z

Deekin: /* What do you suggest for zm4? */

=Zoo Mod 3=
Zoo Mod 3 for DF 3d:

[http://chariot.nickersonm.com/dwfortress/Zoo_Mod_3.zip Mod Download]

to install, unzip into your raw folder

to use, you must generate a new world

==What zm3 Adds==
*Chicken [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken]
*Goose [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goose]
*Goat [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goat]
*Donkey [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donkey] (removed due to overlap with new version, but graphics still work)
*Sheep [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheep]
*Pig [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pig]
*Ox [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ox]
*Llama [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Llama]
*Dromedary Camel [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dromedary_Camel] (see donkey)
*Bactrian Camel [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bactrian_Camel] (see donkey)
*Alpaca [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpaca]
*Yak [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yak]
*Pony [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pony]
*Gaur [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaur]
*Coyote [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coyote]
*Javelina [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Javelina]
*Wild Boar [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_Boar]
*Moose [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moose]
*Duck [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duck]
*Wild Turkey [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_Turkey]
*Buffalo [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo]
*Armadillo [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armadillo]
*Porcupine [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porcupine]
*Rabbit [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabbit]
*Hare [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hare]
*Skunk [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skunk]
*Beaver [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaver]
*Prairie Dog [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prairie_Dog]
*Mountain Goat [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_Goat] (see donkey)
*Florida Panther [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_Panther]
*Bobcat [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobcat]
*Black Caiman [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Caiman]
*Badger [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badger]
*Otter [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otter]
*Pronghorn [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pronghorn]
*Bighorn Sheep [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bighorn_Sheep]
*Heron [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heron]
*Flamingo [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flamingo]
*Wisent [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisent]
*Roadrunner [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roadrunner]
*Swan [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swan]
*Peccary [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peccary]
*Tapir [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tapir]
*Zebra [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zebra]
*Giraffe [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giraffe]
*Wildebeast [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wildebeast]
*Anteater [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anteater]
*Capybara [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capybara]
*Muskrat [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muskrat]
*Guinea Pig [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guinea_Pig]
*Aardvark [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aardvark]
*Red Kangaroo [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Kangaroo]
*Dingo [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dingo]
*Ostrich [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostrich]
*Giant Panda [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant_Panda]
*Rhinoceros [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhinoceros]
*Orangutan [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orangutan] (see donkey)
*Baboon [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baboon]
*Caracal [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caracal]
*Komodo Dragon [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Komodo_Dragon]
*Clouded Leopard [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clouded_Leopard]
*White Tiger [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Tiger]
*Gharial [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gharial]
*Maned Wolf [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maned_Wolf]
*Jackal [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackal]
*African Wild Dog [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Wild_Dog]
*Dhole [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhole]
*Hyena [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyena]
*Water Buffalo [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_Buffalo]
*Cape Buffalo [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cape_Buffalo]
*Oryx [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oryx]
*Kudu [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kudu]
*Addax [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Addax]
*Impala [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impala]
*Sable Antelope [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sable_Antelope]
*Okapi [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Okapi]
*Peacock [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peacock]
*Gambian Rat [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambian_Rat]
*Cassowary [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassowary]
*Wolverine [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolverine]
*Woolly Mammoth [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woolly_Mammoth]
*Ermine [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ermine]
*Lynx [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynx]
*Kodiak Bear [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kodiak_Bear]
*Snow Leopard [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_Leopard]
*Emperor Penguin [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emperor_Penguin]
*Reindeer [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reindeer]
*Arctic Fox [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arctic_Fox]
*Arctic Hare [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arctic_Hare]

roughly half have graphics, and those that do all have both adult and child pics, with most also having skeletal and some having zombie

[[Image:Zoo_mod_all.PNG]]

also in it:

*cave bee vermin
*cave beehive "plant" - brewed into dwarven mead, extracted(barrel) into dwarven honey

which should probably be moved over to botany mod at some point

==What might go in zm4?==
*Wombat
*Kiwi
*Gila Monster
*Bushmaster
*King Cobra
*Black Mamba
*Diamondback Rattlesnake
*Green Anaconda
*Burmese Python
*Reticulated Python
*Desert Tortoise
*Alligator Snapping Turtle
*Manatee
*Dolphin
*Porpoise
*Killer Whale
*Elephant Seal
*Leopard Seal
*Harbor Seal
*Fur Seal
*Sea Lion
*Leatherback Turtle
*Green Sea Turtle
*Goliath Frog
*Bullfrog
*Hellbender
*Asian Giant Salamander
*Pacific Giant Salamander
*Greater Siren
*Spider Crab
*Red King Crab
*Blue King Crab
*Coconut Crab
*Red Crab
*American Lobster
*European Lobster
*Aldabra Giant Tortoise
*Galápagos Giant Tortoise
*Emu
*Rhea
*Somali Ostrich
*Saiga
*Nilgai
*Sambar
*Sloth Bear
*Takin
*Anoa
*Banteng
*Zebu
*Dall Sheep
*Gerenuk
*Dik-Dik
*Pink River Dolphin
*Amazonian Manatee
*Dugong
*Steller's Sea Cow
*Cuvieronius
*Narwhal
*Arctic Wolf
*Pelican
*Perentie
*Water Monitor
*Crocodile Monitor
*Lace Monitor
*Thylacine
*Bongo
*Giant Forest Hog
*Hartebeest
*Nyala
*Quagga
*Eland
*Pygmy Hippopotamus
*Beluga Sturgeon
*Nutria
*Ocelot
*Civet
*Jaguarundi
*Serval
*Asian Golden Cat
*Aardwolf
*Kermode Bear
*Sun Bear
*Spectacled Bear
*Red Panda
*Coati
*Bush Dog
*Gray Fox
*Singing Dog
*Topi
*Springbok
*Water Chevrotain
*Red Deer
*Hirola
*Kob
*Puku
*Lechwe
*Waterbuck
*Blackbuck
*Barbary Sheep
*Ibex
*Tur
*Serow
*Goral
*Argali
*Mouflon
*Urial
*Bharal
*Chamois
*Giant Catfish
*Arapaima
*Sailfish
*White Sturgeon
*Red Junglefowl
*Guineafowl
*Malleefowl
*Brush-Turkey
*Loon
*Albatross
*Condor
*Blue-Footed Booby
*Gannet
*Cormorant
*Stork
*Egret
*Ibis
*Black Vulture
*Golden Eagle
*Griffon Vulture
*Steller's Sea Eagle
*Bald Eagle
*Crane
*Bustard
*Great Black-Backed Gull
*Puffin
*Eagle Owl
*Great Horned Owl
*Markhor
*Geleda
*Guanaco
*Vicuna
*Onager
*Spoonbill
*Crab-Eating Macaque
*Haast's Eagle
*Moa
*Woolly Rhinoceros
*Irish Elk
*Cave Lion (Chasm)
*Cave Bear (Chasm)
*Cave Hyena (Chasm)

*Giant Mantis
*Giant Fiddler Crab
*Giant Cougar
*Giant Hoary Marmot
*Giant Tarantula
*Giant Rattlesnake
*Giant White Tiger
*Giant Centipede
*Giant Wolf

==What do you suggest for zm4?==
* Naked Mole rats, GIANT naked mole rats, robots. -[[User:mistere23|mistere23]]
* More "Man" creatures, alligator men, shark men, etc. --[[User:Thehunterunseen|Thehunterunseen]] 01:51, 4 November 2007 (EDT)
* The people demand more platypi. -[[User:EarthquakeDamage|EarthquakeDamage]] 03:55, 4 November 2007 (EST)
* Gnolls. As a new type of thief.--[[User:Neatoburrito|Neatoburrito]] 16:39, 15 November 2007 (EST)
* More Rare Mythical creatures... Jackalopes, Wolpertingers etc. --[[User:Tuv|Tuv]] 17:21, 1 December 2007 (EST)
* Hamster & chinchilla. -- [[User:Zaratustra|Zaratustra]] 14:16, 11 February 2008 (EST)
* I would very much like to encounter a sabre-toothed lime, but I doubt that'll be happening. --[[User:Savok|Savok]] 09:40, 14 March 2008 (EDT)
* Get the king crabs in. You absolutely have to. --[[User:Penguinofhonor|Penguinofhonor]] 12:00, 29 March 2008 (EDT)
* actual lizards and snakes(like king snake, alligator lizard) instead of seeing just "snake" and "lizard" --[[User:0todd0|0todd0]] 01:13, 8 June 2008 (EDT)
* Dinosaurs, preferably with some of them being able to captured and tamed. UNLEASH THE WAR RAPTORS! --[[User:Deekin|Deekin]] 15:43, 29 July 2008 (EDT)

=Botany Mod '''2'''=
[http://chariot.nickersonm.com/dwfortress/matgloss_botany_mod.txt Botany Mod 2 Download]

The list below uses the legend:

a) [[Farmer's workshop]]

* P - Process
* b - Process to [[Bag]]
* B - Process to [[Barrel]]
* V - Process to [[Vial]]

b) [[Mill]] or [[Quern]]

* M - Milling (requires a bag)

<center>'''Cave Crops'''</center>
{| class="wikitable" cellspacing="0" border="1" cellpadding="5"
|-
! Crop Name
| '''Growing''' '''Seasons''' || '''Habitat''' || '''Plant''' '''Value''' || '''Brewable''' || '''Brew''' '''Value*''' || '''Cookable'''** || '''Edible''' '''Raw''' || '''Extracts''' || '''Extract''' '''Value'''
|-
! Cave Grapes
| All || Subterranean || 2 || Dwarven white wine || 10 || Yes, if Processed || Yes || Dwarven vinegar (B) || 20
|-
! Cave Oats
| Spr Fall || Subterranean || 2 || Dwarven whiskey || 10 || Yes, if Milled || No || Dwarven oat flour (M) || 20
|-
! Cave Lettuce
| Sum Fall || Subterranean || 2 || No || || Yes, if Processed || No || 5 Lettuce leaves (b) || 12?
|-
! Cave Carrot
| Spr Sum || Subterranean || 2 || Dwarven carrot juice || 10 || Yes || Yes || None ||
|-
! Cave Cucumber
| Sum Fall || Subterranean || 2 || Dwarven pickle juice || 10 || Yes || Yes || None ||
|-
! Cave Coffee Bush
| All || Subterranean || 3 || Dwarven Coffee || 15 || No || No || None ||
|-
! Cave Mustard
| Sum Fall || Subterranean || 3 || No || || if Processed || No || Dwarven mustard (B) || 20
|-
! Cave Artichoke
| Spr Sum Fall || Subterranean || 2 || Dwarven tea || 15 || Yes || No || None ||
|}

<center>'''Tree Fruit''' (not growable, but collected from the ground)</center>
{| class="wikitable" cellspacing="0" border="1" cellpadding="5"
|-
! Crop Name
| '''Growing''' '''Seasons''' || '''Habitat''' || '''Plant''' '''Value''' || '''Brewable''' || '''Brew''' '''Value*''' || '''Cookable'''** || '''Edible''' '''Raw''' || '''Extracts''' || '''Extract''' '''Value'''
|-
! Crab Apple***
| Sum Fall || Any Temperate Forest (Wet)(Dry) || 2 || Apple cider || 10 || Yes, if Processed || Yes || Applesauce (B) || 10
|-
! Peach***
| Sum Fall || Any Temperate Forest (Wet)(Dry) || 2 || Peach schnapps || 10 || Yes || Yes || None ||
|-
! Plum***
| Spr Sum || Any Temperate Forest (Wet)(Dry) || 2 || Plum brandy || 10 || Yes, if Processed || Yes || Plum jelly (B) || 10
|-
! Banana***
| Spr Sum Fall || Any Tropical Forest (wet)(Dry) || 3 || No || || Yes || Yes || None ||
|-
! Coconut***
| Spr Sum Fall || Any Tropical Broadleaf (Wet) Tropical Saltwater Wetlands (Wet) Tropical Saltwater Inland (Wet) Tropical Ocean (Wet) || 2 || Coconut Arrack || 15 || Yes, if Processed || Yes || Coconut oil (B) || 20
|-
! Dates***
| Spr Sum Fall || Sand Desert (Dry) Tropical Freshwater Inland (Dry) Tropical Brackishwater Inland (Dry) || 2 || Date liqueur || 10 || Yes, if Milled or Processed || Yes || Date molasses (B), Date sugar (M) || 20, 20
|-
! Mulberry***
| Sum Fall || Any Forest (Wet)(Dry) || 2 || Mulberry wine || 10 || Yes, if Processed || Yes || Mulberry jam (B) || 20
|-
! Pear***
| Sum Fall || Any Temperate Forest (Wet) || 2 || Perry || 10 || Yes, if Processed || Yes || Pear jelly (B) || 10
|-
! Apricot***
| Spr Sum || Any Temperate Forest (Dry) || 2 || Apricot schnapps || 10 || Yes, if Processed || Yes || Apricot jelly (B) || 10
|-
! Cherry***
| All || Any Temperate Forest (Wet)(Dry) || 2 || Cherry brandy || 10 || Yes, if Processed || Yes || Cherry jelly (B) || 10
|-
! Tamarillo***
| Sum Fall || Any Tropical Forest (Wet)(Dry) || 2 || No || || Yes || Yes || None ||
|}

<center>'''Grain Crops'''</center>
{| class="wikitable" cellspacing="0" border="1" cellpadding="5"
|-
! Crop Name
| '''Growing''' '''Seasons''' || '''Habitat''' || '''Plant''' '''Value''' || '''Brewable''' || '''Brew''' '''Value*''' || '''Cookable'''** || '''Edible''' '''Raw''' || '''Extracts''' || '''Extract''' '''Value'''
|-
! Amaranth
| Sum Fall || Not Freezing (Wet)(Dry) || 3 || No || || Yes, if Milled or Processed || No || Amaranth oil (B), Amaranth flour (M) || 20, 20
|-
! Quinoa
| Sum Fall || Not Freezing (Wet)(Dry) || 3 || No || || Yes, if Milled || No || Quinoa flour (M) || 20
|-
! Buckwheat
| Spr Sum Fall || Not Freezing (Wet)(Dry) || 2 || Buckwheat beer || 10 || Yes, if Milled || No || Buckwheat flour (M) || 20
|-
! Fonio
| All || Not Freezing (Dry) || 2 || No || || Yes, if Milled || No || Fonio flour (M) || 20
|-
! Millet
| Spr Sum Fall || Not Freezing (Dry) || 2 || Ontaku || 10 || Yes, if Milled || No || Millet flour (M) || 20
|-
! Sorghum
| Sum Fall || Not Freezing (Wet)(Dry) || 2 || Kaoliang || 10 || Yes, if Milled or Processed || No || Sorghum syrup (B), Sorghum flour (M) || 20, 20
|-
! Spelt
| Sum Fall || Not Freezing (Wet)(Dry) || 2 || Spelt gin || 10 || Yes, if Milled || No || Spelt flour (M) || 20
|-
! Teff
| Spr Sum || Not Freezing (Wet)(Dry) || 2 || No || || Yes, if Milled || No || Teff flour (M) || 20
|-
! Flax(Linen)
| Spr Sum Fall || Not Freezing (Wet)(Dry) || 3 || No || || yes, if Milled or Processed (B) || No || Flaxseed oil (B), Ground flaxseed (M), Flax thread (P) || 20, 20, ?
|-
! Tumbleweed
| Sum Fall Wnt || Any Desert (Dry) || 1 || Stumble grog || 5 || No || No || None ||
|}

<center>'''Vegetable Crops'''</center>
{| class="wikitable" cellspacing="0" border="1" cellpadding="5"
|-
! Crop Name
| '''Growing''' '''Seasons''' || '''Habitat''' || '''Plant''' '''Value''' || '''Brewable''' || '''Brew''' '''Value*''' || '''Cookable'''** || '''Edible''' '''Raw''' || '''Extracts''' || '''Extract''' '''Value'''
|-
! Truffle***
| All || Any Temperate (Wet)(Dry) || 3 || No || || Yes || Yes || None ||
|-
! Sunflower
| Sum Fall || Not Freezing (Dry) || 3 || No || || Yes, if Processed || Yes || Margarine (B) || 20
|-
! Garlic***
| All || Not Freezing (Wet) || 4 || No || || if Milled || No || Garlic spice (M), Vampire ward (V) || 20, 100
|-
! Onion
| Fall Wnt || Not Freezing (Wet)(Dry) || 3 || No || || Yes, if Milled || No || Onion spice (M) || 20
|-
! Ginger
| Sum Fall Wnt || Not Freezing (Wet) || 3 || Ginger beer || 15 || if Milled || No || Ginger spice (M) || 20
|-
! Peanut
| Sum Fall || Not Freezing (Wet)(Dry) || 2 || No || || Yes, if Processed || Yes || Peanut butter (B) || 20
|-
! Peppercorn
| Spr Sum || Not Freezing (Wet)(Dry) || 3 || No || || if Milled || No || Black pepper (M) || 20
|-
! Yam
| Fall Wnt || Not Freezing (Wet) || 2 || No || || Yes, if Milled || No || Yam starch (M) || 20
|-
! Jute(Burlap)
| All || Not Freezing (Wet)(Dry) || 2 || No || || No || No || Jute thread (P) || ?
|-
! Ramie
| Sum Fall Wnt || Not Freezing (Wet)(Dry) || 2 || No || || No || No || Ramie thread (P) || ?
|-
! Sweet Potato
| Spr Sum || Not Freezing (Wet)(Dry) || 2 || No || || Yes, if Milled || Yes || Sweet potato starch (M) || 20
|-
! Cassava
| Spr Sum Fall || Not Freezing (Wet)(Dry) || 3 || No || || Yes, if Milled || Yes || Tapioca flour (M) || 20
|-
! Radish
| Spr Sum || Not Freezing (Wet)(Dry) || 2 || No || || Yes || Yes || None ||
|-
! Beet
| Sum Fall || Not Freezing (Wet)(Dry) || 3 || No || || Yes, if Processed || Yes || Beet juice (B) || 10
|-
! Turnip
| Sum Fall Wnt || Not Freezing (Wet)(Dry) || 2 || No || || Yes || Yes || None ||
|-
! Leek
| Fall Wnt || Not Freezing (Wet) || 3 || No || || Yes, if Milled || Yes || Leek spice (M) || 20
|-
! Parsnip
| All || Not Freezing (Wet)(Dry) || 2 || No || || Yes, if Milled || Yes || Parsnip starch (M) || 20
|-
! Rutabaga
| Sum Fall Wnt || Not Freezing (Wet)(Dry) || 2 || No || || Yes, if Cooked || No || Rutabaga starch (M) || 20
|-
! Cabbage
| Spr Fall || Not Freezing (Wet)(Dry) || 2 || No || || Yes, if Processed || No || 5 Cabbage leaves (b) || 12?
|-
! Okra
| Sum Fall || Not Freezing (Wet)(Dry) || 2 || No || || Yes, if Processed || No || Okra oil (B) || 20
|-
! Celery
| Spr Wnt || Not Freezing (Wet)(Dry) || 2 || No || || Yes || Yes || None ||
|-
! Broccoli
| Sum Fall || Any Temperate (Wet) || 3 || No || || Yes || Yes || None ||
|-
! Cauliflower
| Spr Fall || Not Freezing (Wet) || 3 || No || || Yes || Yes || None ||
|-
! Rhubarb
| All || Not Freezing (Wet)(Dry) || 3 || Rhubarb wine || 10 || Yes, if Processed || No || Rhubarb sauce (B) || 20
|}

<center>'''Fruit Crops'''</center>
{| class="wikitable" cellspacing="0" border="1" cellpadding="5"
|-
! Crop Name
| '''Growing''' '''Seasons''' || '''Habitat''' || '''Plant''' '''Value''' || '''Brewable''' || '''Brew''' '''Value*''' || '''Cookable'''** || '''Edible''' '''Raw''' || '''Extracts''' || '''Extract''' '''Value'''
|-
! Wild Grapes
| All || Not Freezing (Wet)(Dry) || 2 || Red wine || 10 || Yes || Yes || None ||
|-
! Watermelon
| Sum Fall || Not Freezing (Wet) || 2 || Watermelon brandy || 10 || Yes || Yes || None ||
|-
! Raspberry
| Sum Fall || Not Freezing (Wet)(Dry) || 2 || Raspberry wine || 10 || Yes, if Processed || Yes || Raspberry jam (B) || 10
|-
! Blackberry
| Sum Fall || Not Freezing (Wet)(Dry) || 2 || Blackberry wine || 10 || Yes, if Processed || Yes || Blackberry jam (B) || 10
|-
! Blueberry
| Spr Sum Fall || Not Freezing (Wet)(Dry) || 2 || No || || Yes, if Processed || Yes || Blueberry jam (B) || 10
|-
! Eggplant
| Sum Fall || Not Freezing (Wet)(Dry) || 2 || No || || Yes || Yes || None ||
|-
! Cantaloupe
| Sum Fall || Not Freezing (Wet) || 2 || Cantaloupe wine || 10 || Yes || Yes || None ||
|-
! Pineapple
| Sum Fall || Any Tropical (Wet)(Dry) || 3 || Pineapple wine || 15 || Yes || Yes || None ||
|-
! Passion Fruit
| Sum Fall || Any Tropical (Wet) || 4 || Passion fruit juice || 15 || Yes || Yes || Love potion (V) || 50
|-
! Cranberry
| Fall Wnt || Not Freezing (Wet) || 2 || Cranberry schnapps || 10 || Yes, if Processed || Yes || Cranberry sauce (B) || 20
|-
! Chickpea
| All || Not Freezing (Wet) || 2 || Chickpea sake || 10 || Yes, if Milled || No || Chickpea flour (M) || 20
|-
! Lingonberry
| Sum Fall || Any Temperate Forest (Wet) || 3 || Lillehammer liqueur || 15 || Yes, if Processed || Yes || Lingonberry jam (B) || 20
|-
! Redcurrant
| Sum Fall || Not Freezing (Wet)(Dry) || 2 || Redcurrant cordial || 10 || Yes, if Processed || Yes || Redcurrant jam (B) || 10
|-
! Blackcurrant
| Sum Fall || Not Freezing (Wet)(Dry) || 2 || Blackcurrant cordial || 10 || Yes, if Processed || Yes || Blackcurrant jam (B) || 10
|-
! Kiwifruit
| Spr Sum Fall || Any Tropical Forest (Wet) || 4 || No || || Yes || Yes || None ||
|-
! Wolfberry
| Sum Fall || Not Freezing (Wet)(Dry) || 3 || Wolfberry wine || 15 || Yes || Yes || None ||
|-
! Dragonfruit
| Spr Sum Fall || Any Tropical (Dry) || 4 || Dragonfruit wine || 15 || Yes || Yes || None ||
|-
! Zucchini
| Sum Fall || Any Temperate (Wet)(Dry) || 2 || No || || Yes || Yes || None ||
|-
! Squash
| Sum Fall || Not Freezing (Wet)(Dry) || 2 || No || || Yes, if Processed || Yes || Squash oil (B) || 20
|-
! Pea
| Spr Wnt || Not Freezing (Wet)(Dry) || 2 || No || || Yes || Yes || None ||
|}
<nowiki>*</nowiki> The Brewed value of a single plant, which is the value of five Drinks. For comparison with Extracts. 
<nowiki>**</nowiki> Anything that can be cooked is edible afterwards. 
<nowiki>***</nowiki> These plants can not be grown on a farm plot.

=Angler Mod=

[http://chariot.nickersonm.com/dwfortress/creature_angler_mod.txt Angler Mod Download]

What it adds:

*Largemouth Bass
*Smallmouth Bass
*Black Sea Bass
*Striped Bass
*Crappie
*Walleye
*Bluegill
*Catfish
*Roach
*Bream
*Red Bellied Piranha
*Black Piranha
*Scup

=Civilizations Graphics Set=

[http://chariot.nickersonm.com/dwfortress/civ_graphics.zip Civ Graphics Download]

What it adds:

*Full [http://chariot.nickersonm.com/dwfortress/dwarf_civ.PNG Dwarf] Graphics(much by DR, some by veryinky, some by me)
*Full [http://chariot.nickersonm.com/dwfortress/human_civ.PNG Human] Graphics(some by DR, much by veryinky, some by me)
*Full [http://chariot.nickersonm.com/dwfortress/goblin_civ.PNG Goblin] Graphics(some by DR, much by veryinky, some by me)
*Full [http://chariot.nickersonm.com/dwfortress/elf_civ.PNG Elf] Graphics(some by DR, much by me)
*Full [http://chariot.nickersonm.com/dwfortress/kobold_civ.PNG Kobold] Graphics(some by DR, much by me)
*Full [http://chariot.nickersonm.com/dwfortress/red_antman_civ.PNG Red Antman] Graphics(base tile by DR, all the rest by me)
*Full [http://chariot.nickersonm.com/dwfortress/elephant_civ.PNG Cave Elephant] Graphics(all by me)

What it DOESN'T add:

*any mods that would allow you to use the extra graphics, such as the cave elephants or elf job tiles. You have to do that yourself.

User talk:0x517A5D

2008-07-15T20:22:37Z

Deekin: /* Incompatible with 38a. */

== Current Build ==

Interesting setup you've got there. I run something similar, though not completely abusive to game limits. (Leg+5 in everything? comeon! :P)

Got one guy with proficient in everything, while the rest have no skills and are purely haulers and pre-dabbling farmers.
Hauling and farming were the only tasks I decided to free my 'hero' dwarf from, since they're so god-awfully time consuming.

As for items: A single full suit of steel armor and one of each weapon, with only a handful of bolts, should an errant fire imp come over in the first season.
A couple dozen of each booze and both plump helmet and spawn, with 11 each of the remaining seeds.
Of course the mandatory 1 each of food and whatnot.
A hefty stock of giant cave spider thread to jumpstart my trading power (a single shoe will go for no less than 900 I think... initial investment is only 120p each)
A miscellany of assorted bars, wood, ores, and stone to spend the remaining points.
Also took along 3 wardogs for some additional protection and 10 cattle to get a herd going.

All-in-all I limit myself to 32000 total points, as it's the highest clean number that the signed integer will accept in a once-off edit.
Also used adjust start to give me 10 dwarves, and set Max_Pop to only 7, so no immigrants unless I get really short on helpers.

My guy's got something of a demi-god complex too, as his name is Master, the rest are named Servant, and the world is "Kôr Nòm" (Master of God). Remembered to look it up when I dabbled with the Regional Prospector ;)

Anyways, saw that you had a very similar idea for a build and thought you might want to hear you're not the only one going for the "God and Servants" route ;)
--[[User:n9103|n9103]] 01:49, 20 Dec 2007 (PST)

== Search Function ==

It may be helpful to make it clear the search function used in your version-independent code examples is a user-define function and is not associated with the STL search algorithm. I would also recommend posting the source files for search function, or commenting that they are available from the enable magma buildings zip file

--[[User:Masdus|Masdus]] 22:08, 28 November 2007 (EST)

:That's a good point about search(). I've just renamed it hexsearch() in my most recent (not yet released) source. I had started to document the search patterns in a more generic way, but decided that (a) it took me too long to translate, and (b) few of the target audience would be able and willing to retranslate into their own search-like functions. So I just started cutting and pasting patterns out of my source. As for posing the source to hexsearch(), I think that the target audience can track it down. (If we could host arbitrary files directly on this wiki, I would. I just think it's too big to put into a <code> block.) —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 16:17, 29 November 2007 (EST)

== Seekret Projekt ==

Wow, just tried it out and it works great in 33g. It's amazing the way it reveals the locations of all major features on every map square. I've only briefly checked it out, but I picked a 5x5 area which your tool revealed to have 2 magma vents, an underground water pool, adamantine, and part of a chasm. After embarking and running reveal.exe I confirmed that all features shown by your tool matched the features available and the correct locations. Your tool will make looking for good starting locations at least 5000x easier, considering you can see every single feature location when selecting where to embark. No need to embark and run reveal to find where the major features (especially adamantine) are. Truly great work. --[[User:Janus|Janus]] 21:53, 22 December 2007 (EST)
:Great! Good to hear. I am particularly interested in any feature that reveal turns up but was not shown by this tool. Also if you see a question mark in the local map view, please report that. (If at all possible, with world-seed and a screenshot showing the X cursors.) Off on a tangent, what should I call it? FeatureFinder? feature-finder, with a dash? Regional Prospector? —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 22:15, 22 December 2007 (EST)
::I've scanned around a fair bit on a couple of my current world maps and didn't come across any question mark squares. I have noted that caves don't show up. I don't know whether you could locate them in memory the same way as the map features though, since they're probably generated and allocated differently. I can provide a seed and location with a kobold cave if you need it. As for the name, FeatureFinder is concise, but the name "Regional Prospector" gives a better general idea of what it does. I like that one, particularly the "prospector" part. --[[User:Janus|Janus]] 23:02, 22 December 2007 (EST)
:::I didn't even think of caves. Yes, I'd like the seed and location. I can't promise anything though. I think caves are not a per-tile thing. —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 23:08, 22 December 2007 (EST)
::::Understandable. Here it is, the world seed is 7810 as posted in the description: [[:Image:Local_Kobold_Cave.png]] --[[User:Janus|Janus]] 00:47, 23 December 2007 (EST)
:::::I don't think I can do caves. It's gotta be stored somewhere, but it's not in the place that this tool looks. I will keep an eye out.
:::::Not a total loss, though, because I found a bug from looking at this map: the tool is not displaying underground rivers. Easy fix, but I'm not going to do a new beta version just to fix that one.
:::::I also saw some interesting behavior from DF's map sizing. If you choose a 2x2 with that volcano at top left, you get a 2x2. But if you choose a 3x3 with volcano at top left, you get a 5x5 with volcano at middle left. It looks like either the chasm or the cave triggers this, even though the chasm is entirely out of the 3x3 selection, and the cave appears to be built so that it is out of the selection as well. I need to play with this some more. —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 01:53, 23 December 2007 (EST)
:::Just wanted to chime in and say I vote for Regional Prospector.--[[User:N9103|N9103]] 16:05, 23 December 2007 (EST)

I'm impressed. I didn't even realise the features were in memory before you embarked into areas. This baby finds chasms, lakes, adamantine, and the smaller magma lakes that never showed up on the map. Finding good start locations has never been easier. Before I was having to find squares with good minerals and then just embark on the entire map and reveal it all to see if it had good features, with this you can just look at a glance. The only things I see missing are the caves and cave rivers, which you two already noticed. No errors so far, I'll report any if I find any. Thanks for a great tool. Also, I think FeatureFinder is a fitting name. - [[User:Paul|Paul]] 12:55, 23 December 2007 (EST)

I may have found a bug. Your utility shows a magma pool right next to a goblin tower, but upon reveal, it doesn't appear to exist. The seed is 3590640052 and the location is [http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/2849/misleadingmagmaia0.png here]. I have to say, though, that overall this is a fantastic utility- the most useful external program for this game since reveal. Heck, it's probably better than reveal in the long run. Thank you for finally allowing me to satisfy my OCD. --[[User:Eiba|Eiba]] 14:06, 24 December 2007 (EST)
:Yes, I get the same behavior. I didn't actually check with a debugger, but I checked with my test version, and it's definately flagged by the game for being a magma pool.
::[[Image:0x517A5D_Eiba%27s_bug_report_location.png]]
:I actually suspect that this is correct (if unexpected) behavior: the game's local-map generator is preventing features from being generated under or too close to civilization areas. It might be worth exploring other towns with a feature next to them. Anyway, I don't think I can do anything about this... it's just one of those things, y'know? And good luck with that OCD; this utility made mine worse. (I just know that if I keep looking, I'll find a 4x4 limestone magma water chasm pits trees haunted location.) —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 15:27, 24 December 2007 (EST)
:::So I was looking all over for the discussion of this thing - and I just got to hand it to you - you just saved countless hours of my life looking for the perfect starting location. Holy shit this is awesome. I could practically open-mouth kiss you. *cough
:::I can verify cavelakes and whatnot are revealed :) Anyhow, thanks - and I'm surprised that there aren't too many raving posts on the forums about this. (I'll also give you a heads up if I find that legendary adamantine/magma/trees/chasm/flux/sand epic location in a terrifying 5x5 or less) --[[User:KaelGotRice|KaelGotRice]] 00:43, 26 December 2007 (EST)
::::You should post about this tool in the forums! [[User:Bartavelle|Bartavelle]] 06:17, 27 December 2007 (EST)

::Great frickin' utility. If I find that haunted superdense 4x4 I'll let you know, I've been looking for it too. (Terrifying's even better, as it is evil + savage.)
::Small request: add a "map legend" to the Utilities page or include one in the zip. I've never seen those numbers displayed in the above screenshot, just #s and ~s.
::I saw one map where a red single ~ next to a long set of #s didn't turn up magma at any depth, so what you say about the local-map generator probably applies to features other than civilizations.--[[User:Maximus|Maximus]] 19:49, 26 December 2007 (EST)
:::A map key is a good idea. I'll package one with the next release, and I'll throw up a quick one one on the utilities page as well.
:::The numbers in the screenshot are from my initial alpha test version, which I never released. Do you think that I should put them in the normal tool, as an alternate display mode? I thought they wouldn't be useful.
:::Was there any feature where the magma should have been? Could it have drained out into the chasm? If you still have the seed and location, I'll look at it. —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 20:02, 26 December 2007 (EST)

::::Seed 92001, generated under .33e, I think. [[:Image:92001_busy.png]] It didn't drain into the chasm; there's no "empty space" anywhere in the column indicated by RP. This is a really nice location btw; two chasms, surface and underground river and lake, steel, sand, pits, and my favorite, skeletal elephants. There's over 200 hostiles on the map right at the outset. However, the pits/cave river and magma/elephants are not near each other, requiring a starting location at least 7x10.
::::I don't think having RP display numbers is necessary. I assume they indicate depth -- I'd rather know nothing about the actual placement of things as long as I know the grid contains the features I want.
::::Say, maybe you could create an automated map-searcher where you tick off what features you want and the searcher identifies starting locations containing them without telling you exactly where each feature is...--[[User:Maximus|Maximus]] 22:44, 26 December 2007 (EST)
:::::The numbers are the internal feature flag value. 2, for instance, is cave pool. I have been pondering such a map searcher. It would require extremely intimate knowledge of the internal map representation, which is presently beyond me. Regional Prospector does its magic by hooking into the drawing of each map cell, so it doesn't have to traverse the data structures itself. —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 22:59, 26 December 2007 (EST)
::::::If you're just hooking into the drawing of a map cell, couldn't you also add a call to something that would keep track of where, for instance, magma vents are? Something like that would make Ziusudra's magma search utility a lot faster; instead of waiting a quarter second and looking through the screen, such a search utility would scan across the map as fast as the game can update. —[[User:Tacroy|Tacroy]] 00:16, 31 December 2007 (EST)
:::::::Maybe... Hmm. Maybe. I could make a list with little problem. The hard part would be getting the info out. I immediately envision a co-process, probably a custom debugger, that collects the information from code tweaks in DF. And either that program, or an AHK script, would feed input to DF to traverse the map. Hmm. Really, this sounds like a project that's a couple orders of magnitude harder than RP was. With RP, I just inject a few lines of carefully written assembly code. Debuggers are hard. Interesting idea, though. Also, nice m-dash. —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 01:24, 31 December 2007 (EST)
::::::::I only copy from the best :) But anyway, as long as you're injecting assembly code, couldn't you extend it to open a file and write out the interesting features it finds? This probably wouldn't work if you're limited to a certain amount of injected code; I have to say that I have absolutely no idea whether or not this would work as I've never done anything with x86 assembly, nor have I ever messed around with injecting code into memory. —[[User:Tacroy|Tacroy]] 23:03, 31 December 2007 (EST)
:::::::::I theoretically could dump data to a file. The limit on how much code can be injected is so high that it will never actually be hit in real-world use. However, I would have to (a) do all of the file operations myself using relocatable assembly code (which is even harder to write than normal assembly language), and (b) track down the operating system call addresses from scratch, the way viruses do. (Have to do that because they can be at different addresses in different processes, so I can't just find them in the patcher process and copy them across.) I estimate 1000-2000 lines of assembly, all carefully coded to not disrupt DF itself. Using a custom-built debugger might actually be easier. I am, frankly, not eager to do such a project for little personal gain. RP suits my needs and tastes quite well. Now, if you can find someone else willing to do the gruntwork, I can give info such as good patch locations, and critique their techniques. Though I probably am not willing to debug crashes — and crashes will happen, and they can be weird and mysterious. —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 02:37, 1 January 2008 (EST)
::::::::::Why don't you let the patcher do the grunt work to find the system function addresses, all you'd have to do is read in the entire EXE image from the DF processes. The relocatable assembly is still definitely going to be a pain. I'd look into doing it myself, but I've already got my plate full just trying to make DFUF useful. -- [[User:Jifodus|Jifodus]] 15:09, 1 January 2008 (EST)
:::::::::::That's a interesting thought. Since the target is a single known executable, which almost certainly already imports the system calls I would need, I could indeed suck them out of the image. So that counters point b. I'll give it some thought. However if I do take on this project, I am actually leaning toward the custom debugger route. I could use C that way. And I'd learn more skills and techniques, I'm sure. —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 16:49, 1 January 2008 (EST)
Maybe it's only me, and I'm doing something extremely stupid, but I can't get it to apply the patch. When I run the .exe it says that it can't find the files that it needs to patch, and suggests that they perhaps already are patched, which, of course, they aren't. I'm probably doing something stupid, aren't I? I suspected that I had possibly put it in the wrong place or something, so I ended up running it from a whole bunch of different DF folders. Alas, there wasn't any sort of readme to help us simple people. Help would be appreciated though, it sounds like a fantastic utility. I'm tired of looking for underground pools with the random chance method. I'm using .33g--[[User:Yabbadabba|Yabbadabba]] 00:55, 1 January 2008 (EST)
:Okay, lets cover the misconception first: it doesn't patch files. It grabs the running copy of Dwarf Fortress by the <strike>balls</strike> throat, and patches its memory. But if DF isn't running, you will get a different error message. So it was running. So... try this: quit out of DF, then start it back up. When DF is at the initial title screen, run the RP utility. Only once. It should not give an error message. In fact, it should give no feedback at all. Then go back to DF and choose the Start Playing menu choice. When you're looking at the Choose a Fortress Location screen, you should automatically be looking at a region which has mountains. At this point, you should notice extra symbols on the local map view on the left of the screen. Report back if this doesn't work, and we can do some diagnostics. I do agree, there should be a readme to explain stuff, as well as give a map key of the new symbols. Soon. —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 02:37, 1 January 2008 (EST)
::Hey, thanks for the help man. Worked like a charm. I guess I just ran it before it got to the main menu last time. Or maybe I opened it twice. Either way, cheers.--[[User:Yabbadabba|Yabbadabba]] 03:21, 1 January 2008 (EST)
I gotta say, this is an awesome utility, I was thinking, exactly, wouldn't it be cool if someone would make a program that would fool the main DF exec into rendering "hidden" features? And a couple months later, you make it. I don't exactly know how it works, but is there a way to do the same thing to the "region" map? (the one in the middle) like, for example show the tiles that have any magma with a red background. [[User:Sergius|Sergius]] 23:13, 4 January 2008 (EST)
:Maybe. I have given this a little thought, but haven't done any of the necessary analysis of DF. The maps are rendered at different times, and by different routines, and I haven't explored what data is easily available to the Region renderer. I may look at this, or I may try to jump all the way to a "Map Info Dumper" or "Good Region Finder" as discussed above. Currently I'm devoting my efforts to art defacement tantrums. I am able to shut them off beforehand, but I can't yet counter the effect after the fact. —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 21:51, 5 January 2008 (EST)
::I just came here to request this feature as well. Red backgrounds for lava tiles in the region map is _exactly_ what I need!
:::I'd love to. I really would. But it's seriously hard. In my investigations, I have learned that the localmap view is generated dynamically. That makes sense — it would be wasteful to have 257*257 localmaps in memory all at once, when only one is needed at a time. But the consequence is that the magma flag that I am looking for is not available for any regionmap tile except the currently selected one. There has to be some flag somewhere, but I haven't found it yet, and I may not be able to. —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 17:24, 12 January 2008 (EST)
:::Made some progress I think. Haven't found the flag but have found the area where it must be. So maybe I can do this. —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 21:53, 12 January 2008 (EST)
::::I believe that magma is centered around some sort of invisible map feature, as all the magma I've found is in clusters. Volcanoes are obvious of course, but I've found many clusters that aren't near volcanoes. By clusters, I mean 9+ local areas with one or two pockets of magma, usually all touching, with the occasional pocket that's not touching the cluster. Anytime I'm searching, if I find one pocket, there are bound to be a handful of others in the immediate vicinity. Hope this helps in finding the token or flag that marks the clusters. --[[User:N9103|Edward]] 00:18, 13 January 2008 (EST)
:::This is proving to be very hard. I've already invested maybe 100 times the effort that the original RP features took me. I've gone down two or three long routes that lead to dead ends. Now I think I have found the list of map features — the same ones that show up in the region folders. If I can walk those looking for matching world x and y coordinates, and figure out where the magma flag is set in them, then it should work. If magma is even a feature, which I am not totally sure of yet. —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 18:05, 14 January 2008 (EST)
::::I'm wondering if you couldn't create a utility that automatically traverses every single local square and updates the regional map if it finds something...--[[User:Maximus|Maximus]] 02:24, 15 January 2008 (EST)
:::::Possibly. What for?  —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 04:06, 15 January 2008 (EST)
::::::I was suggesting that as a kludge if you couldn't find the magma data you were looking for (if there's magma on the local map, update the regional map), but apparently you have finally found it.--[[User:Maximus|Maximus]] 15:03, 15 January 2008 (EST)
Just wanted to say once again, damn fine job on the Regional Prospector. I've just posted a couple of locations found using it [[Pregenerated_worlds#Smata_Sagus.2C_The_Realms_Of_Dawn|over here]]. --[[User:Janus|Janus]] 21:55, 6 January 2008 (EST)

I'd just like to say great job on your Seekrit Projekt. It does not have to be updated for .38a. [[User:Mephisto|Mephisto]] 21:06, 5 February 2008 (EST)

:You need to upload the file to a different mirror, the server site you download from has an array of pornographic ads strewn about the page below where you type the numbers.--[[User:Richards|Richards]] 19:43, 19 April 2008 (EDT)
::Oh dear, I'm very unhappy to learn that. Truely sorry. But I just can't deal with it at this time. I'm deeply mired in a depressive spell that I can't seem to break out of, and frankly, I am barely able to shower each day. So. I hereby give permission to any good samaritan or passerby to upload any or all of my utilities to a better host. Just please send me the account & password info using this wiki's PM or email facilities. Thanks much! And, again, sorry. —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 17:43, 20 April 2008 (EDT)

== Regional Prospector version 2 ==

There is now a beta test version that highlights regional map squares containing magma in dark red. Thank you to Sergius and Polpoint for the idea. Hop on over to my main page. Leave feedback below. This project baked my brain; I am now off to bed. —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 04:09, 15 January 2008 (EST)

== Reverse questions ==

As you seem to have delved into the UI, do you know where the displayed map coordinates are stored? (not the cursor coordinates) [[User:Bartavelle|Bartavelle]] 07:44, 8 January 2008 (EST)
:Which map? I suspect you're talking about Dwarf Fortress mode post-embark, in the actual gameplay. And my answer is no, I haven't looked for that. As a half-assed guess, look in the block of data (.33g) from 0146963C to 014696BC (near other map data variables), and from 00906294 to 009062B4 (near the mouse-coord-on-map variables). —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 23:26, 8 January 2008 (EST)

== Incompatible with 38a. ==

"Failed to find memory locations to patch.
Please report this at
http://www.dwarffortresswiki.net/index.php/User_talk:0x517A5D"

It is expected to work with future releases of Dwarf Fortress, as long as the embark code doesn't change too much.

Hehe, not too surprising considering the version jump, that Toady could have made some major changes to embarkation. --[[User:N9103|Edward]] 09:35, 5 February 2008 (EST)

The embark screen still looks the same to me, exept that Seekret Projekt doesn't work anymore ofcourse.

:Worked fine for me, at least, when the world is generated in 38a--[[User:Dorten|Dorten]] 00:30, 6 February 2008 (EST)

Correction, and clarification for those confused: the original Regional Prospector release (listed on the utilities page) works in 38a. However, the newer improved beta2 and beta3 releases (on his user page) do not work in 38a. So, you can at least get the core functionality in 38a by using the non-beta release. --[[User:Janus|Janus]] 04:55, 6 February 2008 (EST)

:Okay, thanks for the report. I've not been working on it recently, but I will get back to it soon. Without checking, I imagine the problem is the new functionality in the beta. I hooked several more places in the DF code — if those hook points changed, then they can't be hooked. —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 14:32, 7 February 2008 (EST)

::Yeah, im trying beta3 on 38c, and getting the error message. But the original version still works fine. (Oh and magma enabler fails too now) -[[User:Ctrlfrk|Ctrlfrk]] 21:01, 4 March 2008 (EST)

::Glad the old one still works. It's the new functionality that is the sticky point. Unfortunately I have not felt up to recreational programming for a couple of months now, much less the effort of disasssembling DF executables. I am starting to feel better, so expect beta4 soon, perhaps this weekend. That's not a promise though. I'll look at magma soon as well, thanks for the report. —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 22:11, 5 March 2008 (EST)

:::A Note that the original version is still compatable (38c). Also, how's life treating you? Hopefully it's treating you well! Also hope that you'll be headed back towards working on an improved versionless version sooner than later. Best wishes in any case! --[[User:N9103|Edward]] 06:37, 28 April 2008 (EDT)

:::: Link to original version? Tried various places but all of them error out on me. --[[User:Gorfob|Gorfob]] 02:15, 15 July 2008 (EDT)

:::: Same here. I grabbed the one off the utilities page, and it does not work for me. --[[User:Deekin|Deekin]]

==Enable magman buildings==
Due to Vista being a pile of shit with DF I run my maps revealed because of the large speed up this gives on Vista (at least on my machine) Tneable magman buildings does not work with .38c --[[User:Gorfob|Gorfob]] 02:21, 18 March 2008 (EDT)