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v0.31:Contaminant

2010-07-03T19:00:27Z

DarthCloakedDwarf: /* Flowing */

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Contaminants are a new feature introduced with 0.31.01. There are five known types of contaminants in Dwarf Fortress which are '''mud''', '''blood''', '''(stone) dust''', '''vomit''', and '''snow'''.

=Creating Mud=
Any time a tile is covered in {{l|water}} '''mud''' will be created on that tile. Mud is usually necessary before doing any kind of {{l|Agriculture|farming}}.

=Tracking=
With the creating of this new contaminants system {{l|dwarf|dwarves}} and other {{l|creature|creatures}} that walk over contaminants can track them onto other tiles that they pass through. Dustings and spatterings which represent small amounts of a contaminant do not appear to be tracked around. Larger amounts of contaminants will be picked up by a dwarves left foot and can then be transferred to other tiles.

=Flowing=
Water that {{l|flow|flows}} over contaminants can pick them up and redistribute them as the water moves. Water does not appear to move mud, although mud will be created any time water covers a tile. The mechanics of redistributing contaminants using water is not well understood although there have been some observations of strange behavior when mixing blood and water.
:* adding 7/7 water on top of a pool of blood creates more pools of blood at the edge of the water as it moves and evaporates.
:* an overflowing reservoir that contains some blood creates blood everywhere the water flows.
:* water will create mud on any non-muddy tile, and moving water will frequently redistribute the mud.

User talk:BaronW

2010-06-09T05:59:16Z

DarthCloakedDwarf: /* My head asplode. */

This is without doubt the most mind-blowing DF construction I have ever witnessed, good sir. Bravao! [[User:Kelu|Kelu]] 08:28, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

I completely agree, amazing. --[[User:Khelek|Khelek]] 20:07, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

I would love to see a video of it in process. Very nice construction :) ~~

Mind blown. [[Special:Contributions/99.135.72.137|99.135.72.137]] 18:09, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Most epic megaproject ever attempted or ever completed. My [http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Towering_pillar_of_hats stack of hats] off to you.--[[User:Draco18s|Draco18s]] 17:55, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

My blood-god. The scaled-down images of the mechanism cells look like circuit cards. That is amazing. This megaconstruction gets sixteen beards out of five.--[[Special:Contributions/169.229.103.22|169.229.103.22]] 20:32, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

How are you planning to input decimal? [[User:Immibis|Immibis]] 02:58, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Dude, this needs an upload to the map repository and videos of it working. Awesome. Beats megaprojects hands down. I'm bowing right now![[User:GarrieIrons|Gar]][[User Talk:GarrieIrons|rie]] 11:51, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

The decimal display is the most amazing part. Nice. --[[User:Squirrelloid|Squirrelloid]] 14:48, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

== youre amazing ==

youre godamn amazing

== Schematics ==

Due to the nature of the invisibility of DF's mechanics, I can't tell what's hooked up to what in here... Can you help me understand how this all works?--[[User:Aescula|Aescula]] 09:42, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

:For subtraction... it becomes much easier if you pick the right way to represent a negative number. If you have the largest bit of a number represent the sign, you can then add as normal and exploit the rollover. So to subtract B from A you just need to flip B's sign bit and add. [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 03:40, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

::You can use 2 bits complement binary representation for substraction (and general computation) you'd only go from 499 to -500 for input digits but it really simplifies adding/substraction (basically both are the same only the sign of the second number would have to be changed (this would allow for substracting negative numbers (thus adding them). And this is also how microprocessors in real computers (not computers made inside games ran on computers) work :P [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two%27s_complement 2's complement wikipedia]

== Awesome ==

It's only a matter of time now until you can run dwarf fortress in dwarf fortress.

--ah the ultimate goal. BaronW

* Conway's Game of Life is Turing-complete. No, seriously; someone built [http://rendell-attic.org/gol/tm.htm a Turing machine in Conway's Game of Life].

== You Win ==

I think you just won all of Dwarf Fortress forever. Parthon. --[[Special:Contributions/203.59.88.183|203.59.88.183]] 19:56, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

I'm not worthy! --[[User:Kami|Kami]] 11:41, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

== Eh, negative schmegative. ==

Just use [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two%27s_complement two's complement] representations. Easy as pi! Calculating pi, that is. Hmm. Off to build a pi-calculator in DF-land....

== Another Comment on the Calculator ==

Wow. That is seriously epic.-[[User:Studoku|Studoku]] 19:59, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

== Yet Another Comment ==

Oh my Armok, this is-

Haspen has been struck down by the awesomeness
x1001

I feel unworthy downloading and testing it myself. Bravo, sir!
--[[User:Haspen|Haspen]] 20:33, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

== My head asplode. ==

I can't even put into words how epic this is. Holy crap.--[[User:DarthCloakedDwarf|DarthCloakedDwarf]] 05:59, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

User talk:BaronW

2010-06-09T05:59:03Z

DarthCloakedDwarf: /* My head asplode. */ new section

This is without doubt the most mind-blowing DF construction I have ever witnessed, good sir. Bravao! [[User:Kelu|Kelu]] 08:28, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

I completely agree, amazing. --[[User:Khelek|Khelek]] 20:07, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

I would love to see a video of it in process. Very nice construction :) ~~

Mind blown. [[Special:Contributions/99.135.72.137|99.135.72.137]] 18:09, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Most epic megaproject ever attempted or ever completed. My [http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Towering_pillar_of_hats stack of hats] off to you.--[[User:Draco18s|Draco18s]] 17:55, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

My blood-god. The scaled-down images of the mechanism cells look like circuit cards. That is amazing. This megaconstruction gets sixteen beards out of five.--[[Special:Contributions/169.229.103.22|169.229.103.22]] 20:32, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

How are you planning to input decimal? [[User:Immibis|Immibis]] 02:58, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Dude, this needs an upload to the map repository and videos of it working. Awesome. Beats megaprojects hands down. I'm bowing right now![[User:GarrieIrons|Gar]][[User Talk:GarrieIrons|rie]] 11:51, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

The decimal display is the most amazing part. Nice. --[[User:Squirrelloid|Squirrelloid]] 14:48, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

== youre amazing ==

youre godamn amazing

== Schematics ==

Due to the nature of the invisibility of DF's mechanics, I can't tell what's hooked up to what in here... Can you help me understand how this all works?--[[User:Aescula|Aescula]] 09:42, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

:For subtraction... it becomes much easier if you pick the right way to represent a negative number. If you have the largest bit of a number represent the sign, you can then add as normal and exploit the rollover. So to subtract B from A you just need to flip B's sign bit and add. [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 03:40, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

::You can use 2 bits complement binary representation for substraction (and general computation) you'd only go from 499 to -500 for input digits but it really simplifies adding/substraction (basically both are the same only the sign of the second number would have to be changed (this would allow for substracting negative numbers (thus adding them). And this is also how microprocessors in real computers (not computers made inside games ran on computers) work :P [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two%27s_complement 2's complement wikipedia]

== Awesome ==

It's only a matter of time now until you can run dwarf fortress in dwarf fortress.

--ah the ultimate goal. BaronW

* Conway's Game of Life is Turing-complete. No, seriously; someone built [http://rendell-attic.org/gol/tm.htm a Turing machine in Conway's Game of Life].

== You Win ==

I think you just won all of Dwarf Fortress forever. Parthon. --[[Special:Contributions/203.59.88.183|203.59.88.183]] 19:56, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

I'm not worthy! --[[User:Kami|Kami]] 11:41, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

== Eh, negative schmegative. ==

Just use [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two%27s_complement two's complement] representations. Easy as pi! Calculating pi, that is. Hmm. Off to build a pi-calculator in DF-land....

== Another Comment on the Calculator ==

Wow. That is seriously epic.-[[User:Studoku|Studoku]] 19:59, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

== Yet Another Comment ==

Oh my Armok, this is-

Haspen has been struck down by the awesomeness
x1001

I feel unworthy downloading and testing it myself. Bravo, sir!
--[[User:Haspen|Haspen]] 20:33, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

== My head asplode. ==

I can't even put into words how epic this is. Holy crap.

== My head asplode. ==

I can't even put into words how epic this is. Holy crap.--[[User:DarthCloakedDwarf|DarthCloakedDwarf]] 05:59, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

2010-01-14T01:02:01Z

DarthCloakedDwarf: /* They can use weapons. */

Can you really extract venom from the corpses? The 'extracts' page says that giant scorpion venom can only be imported. Which is right? --[[User:Sev|Sev]] 23:24, 26 October 2008 (EDT)

== Do scorpions go after certain buildings first? ==

I ended up having a scorpion waltz into my base without anyone noticing. After surviving the stone fall traps at my entrance (admittedly my traps were only 2 rows deep)it proceeded to stroll past my Trade Depot and down the 1-tile wide path between my barracks and dining hall, again without anyone noticing. No one took any notice of the arachnid terror until it had walked into a room that I had set aside as an archery range and dismantled all of my archery targets. Anyways, I'm wondering if scorpions have a preference on targets as the one that made it into my fort ignored the Trade Depot, several doors and the beds, table, and chairs behind said doors as it proceeded straight to my archery range and destroyed archery targets. --[[User:Alkyon|Alkyon]] 08:35, 15 November 2008 (EST)

: I too had a giant desert scorpion enter my base (it went through 3 stonefall traps at minimum), and my hunter was inable to destroy it before it destroyed an archery target. It left everything else alone. --[[User:Erathoniel|Erathoniel]] 14:11, 15 November 2008 (EST)
:: The Creature Tokens page may solve this mystery. An excerpt from the BUILDINGDESTROYER token: "Allows a creature to destroy furniture and buildings. Creatures with BUILDINGDESTROYER will actively seek out your constructions and destroy them. A creature can have this value at 1 or 2. When the value is 1, the creature will go after wooden hatches, wooden doors, supports, statues, windows and archery targets only." A wooden archery range in a desert might have been designed to entice scorpions inside! :D ... D: --[[User:Corona688|Corona688]] 18:55, 28 November 2008 (EST)

== They can use weapons. ==

I just got killed by a G.D.S. who yanked my axe out of my hand and then killed me.

Beware.
--[[User:DarthCloakedDwarf|DarthCloakedDwarf]] 01:02, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

40d Talk:Giant desert scorpion

2010-01-14T01:01:51Z

DarthCloakedDwarf: /* They can use weapons. */ new section

40d Talk:Well guide

2010-01-13T03:54:30Z

DarthCloakedDwarf: /* Dwarves and wells. */ new section

In illustration number nine, "Build the Well", where are the stairs that are in the previous illustrations? Is there a way to remove them?

==Tapping a brook==
As long as you're on the same z-level as the water, you never need to worry about flooding no matter what the source. So even a river can be tapped that way. Now, if you want/need to drop it a z-level or more then flooding can be a serious issue, even with a brook. --[[User:Squirrelloid|Squirrelloid]] 17:14, 30 December 2008 (EST)

:Interesting, I've had nothing but trouble trying to do this with rivers, and no problems doing it with a brook, even when I drop it down a z-level to provide a given level of the fortress with a well. Just wanted to note another well strategy, as the original article said it was not recommended and/or very difficult to do with a brook, and I've found it easy. [[User:JubalHarshaw|JubalHarshaw]] 23:51, 30 December 2008 (EST)

::I have narrowly avoided flooding my fortress with a brook. ('Oh crap, water has pressure' as water starts flowing up out of my well). --[[User:Squirrelloid|Squirrelloid]] 10:57, 31 December 2008 (EST)

:::This conversation is bringing "The Sorceror's Apprentice" to mind... :-) --[[User:Maximus|Maximus]] 23:12, 31 December 2008 (EST)
:::I have never had difficulty tapping brooks, and I don't use the "out" channel to relegate the flows. Water pressure is only a problem if you drop z-levels. This article smells really suspicious to me. Is there a flag for that? I doubt the validity of this argument. It seems outdated, and agrees with the old data, not the new. --[[User:Zchris13|Zchris13]] 19:54, 21 February 2009 (EST)

== Point of the deep well shaft? ==

Why bother with deep well shafts? When the water on the tile right below the well is less than 4/7 deep, it says "Well dry". I don't really see the point. --[[User:Alpha|Alpha]] 15:05, 20 February 2009 (EST)

:The deep well shaft is for if you are dropping the water any amount of z-levels. If you plan it right, it will work at any z-depth you want it too. Done wrong, and you have no water.--[[User:Zchris13|Zchris13]] 19:54, 21 February 2009 (EST)

::But will the well function if the square DIRECTLY below it runs out of water? --[[User:Alpha|Alpha]] 20:06, 9 March 2009 (EDT)

:::Yeah, I often build my wells above deadly underground rivers:<div style="font-family: monospace; white-space: pre; line-height: 126.5%"><nowiki>▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒ emptyness
▒>.o..o..▒ ▒ natural wall
▒<X XX ▒▒▒ X constructed wall
o well
≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈ . floor
▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒ ≈ river
</nowiki></div>
:::They work just fine. And keep deadly underground creatures out. Although said creatures do sometimes scare the dwarves. --[[User:Savok|Savok]] 20:56, 9 March 2009 (EDT)

== Pumps ==

I notice that the article and its discussion make no mention of [[pump]]s, which would help control the water taken from a (channeled) brook tile since they "reset" water pressure. Or are we assuming a Luddite's guide? --[[User:FJH|FJH]] 20:21, 3 March 2009 (EST)
:Meh, it doesn't mention about anything else too. And things like "''unless'' you use floodgates" "You will also ''want'' to control the water with floodgates" (not to mention that you better use lever controlled doors) --[[User:Koltom|Koltom]] 22:00, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

== Nostalgia ==
Is anyone else sad to see the old well guide go (at least the pond draining part)? Despite its questionable tactical suggestions noted above, I liked how it took you step by step through an engineering project, with diagrams and warnings about precautions to take. I found that to be very helpful as a newbie trying to learn how to approach DF. What's left here seems like a mere description that belongs on [[well]] and much less guide-like. I vote to undo, but I readily concede that my judgment is clouded by sentimental attachment. --[[User:HebaruSan|HebaruSan]] 04:40, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
:I'm in the process of re-writing the rewrite, combining the (with any luck at all) best of both views.--[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 05:52, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

== Dwarves and wells. ==

I have a well.

There is water under it.

Why won't my dwarves drink from it?--[[User:DarthCloakedDwarf|DarthCloakedDwarf]] 03:54, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

40d Talk:Native platinum

2010-01-03T21:24:22Z

DarthCloakedDwarf: /* Found as veins? */

== Found as veins? ==

Although I've found native platinum in small clusters quite a few times, on my current fortress map I've found native platinum in small and average sized veins within dolomite and magnetite more than once. So, does native platinum occur as veins as well? Could someone conform this? I don't think I'm gonna start a new fortress for some time. Think about all those riches... [[User:Noctis|Noctis]] 03:22, 11 November 2007 (EST)

: Platinum can occur in veins inside bodies of [[magnetite]] or [[olivine]]. Magnetite is found pretty much anywhere, olivine is found in [[gabbro]]. --[[User:JT|JT]] 07:02, 11 November 2007 (EST)

:: Thanks! I've corrected the article. [[User:Noctis|Noctis]] 10:40, 21 November 2007 (EST)

: I have found a native platinum vein (a huge one) near but not touching a magnetite deposit. Is this a bug, or can Platinum be found just laying around in Claystone? I can post a screenshot if proof is needed. --[[User:DarthCloakedDwarf|DarthCloakedDwarf]] 21:24, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

== Mason ==
It seems any mason item can be made from platinum nuggets? I happen to be the "proud" owner of a native platinum floodgate and a native platinum armor stand *grr*. On the other hand I fail to make crafts from platinum nuggets (use in z/stone allowed,stonecrafter available..) --[[User:Koltom|Koltom]] 12:37, 11 February 2008 (EST)

:Native platinum is an economic stone. If it is specifically enabled in the "Stone" menu, it can be used by masons and stone crafters. This holds true for all economic stones. However, masons and stone crafters use whatever rock is closest to them when they begin their job. In most cases this is the rock closest to the workshop. [[User:Bouchart|Bouchart]] 18:49, 11 February 2008 (EST)

::Look at it this way - when the sherriff starts whinging about needing an armour stand, you have one on standby to boost his room wealth --[[User:Frostedfire|Frostedfire]] 19:05, 11 February 2008 (EST)

== interesting results ==

mason uses platinum ore for

*armor stand
*coffer
*flood gate

mason does not use platinum ore for

*cabinets

--[[User:Koltom|Koltom]] 16:19, 22 February 2008 (EST)
:You say it can't be used for crafts? There is nothing in raw data to distinguish it from other types of stone... [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 19:24, 22 February 2008 (EST)

::Well, i had my crafter locked in with 3 platinum nuggets, allowed in z-stone screen, told him to make rock crafts, mugs... nothing happened, showed 'no job'. I unlocked the door, off he goes picking up the next shale. Same with the mason, as soon as i canceled the cabinet he picked up platin and made the coffer next in line. Now you can't prove that way that it's not possible, who knows whats in the mind of a dwarf..--[[User:Koltom|Koltom]] 20:02, 23 February 2008 (EST)
::: I just tried it again, it worked, on mugs at least. Oh well..sorry. --[[User:Koltom|Koltom]] 20:37, 23 February 2008 (EST)
::: now it worked with "true" crafts too. Lets revisit the cabinet.. --[[User:Koltom|Koltom]] 19:28, 8 March 2008 (EST)

== Magma-safe? ==

Are you sure [[platinum]] is [[magma-safe]]? Neither the platinum article nor the magma-safe article list it as such. --[[User:LegacyCWAL|LegacyCWAL]] 12:30, 1 March 2009 (EST)

::You are mistaken. Both of the articles you cited mention that platinum is magma safe. [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 17:45, 1 March 2009 (EST)

:::What? But...*looks*...aw, crap. I can't believe I managed to miss that =( --[[User:LegacyCWAL|LegacyCWAL]] 19:26, 1 March 2009 (EST)

:Looking at the raw data, it looks to be so. But I'm not sure. Never tested it. Don't have any magma distribution systems in my fort yet. Working on that now. But I hit some copper, and followed that vein into infinity. Going to take a while to check for leaks. --[[User:Zchris13|Zchris13]] 16:58, 1 March 2009 (EST)

== Veins/clusters ==
I found a small cluster (7 tiles) of native platinum, in the middle of an olivine deposit. Only mod used was reveal. Fixing. [[User:Decius|Decius]] 19:45, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

:I made a similar "mistake" - but I think this is valid. The template info comes from the RAW's - how the relationship between a stone and ore is defined in the game files. And for olivine, those are defined only as veins. But I've seen small clusters in olivine too often - something else has to be going on. Perhaps the olivine is somehow "inheriting" the small clusters from the parent gabbro layer - dunno, might be considered a bug, but it's there, and has been witnessed too many times to discount. --[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 22:20, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

::And there was no chromite present? If you want to list behavior that conflicts with raw data, it should be listed as a bug rather than normal. Also, a screenshot would be good. [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 22:30, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
:::I've observed this myself - in fact, I've '''never''' seen a native platinum vein within olivine, only small clusters, and even when there is no chromite present. It occurs as veins just fine within magnetite, of course. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 23:27, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

::::Its getting better - i have a vein of 43 native plat. in limestone. The next cluster south is bauxite 10 tiles away and north magnetite 10 tiles away. Both big clusters have the usual oval shape, no other veins or even gems to distort the placing pattern are present. Unmodded DF, except for cat bug and removed benign from chasm creatures. So if we want to go by the raws we would have to argue that the vein got misplaced from the north cluster it belongs in. Which has a small cluster of 5 plat btw... --[[User:Birthright|Birthright]] 10:46, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::I've seen native platinum veins extend far beyond their magnetite clusters, though there's always a small gap in the vein (3-4 tiles or so) right at the edge of the magnetite. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 15:28, 25 August 2009 (UTC)