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40d Talk:Tilesets

2008-08-17T15:34:21Z

Corc: /* On stretching tiles */

Is there some way to edit it so magma vents appear more prominent on the map screen? I want to be able to see them easily when I fly though many areas. ...

:Not really. You could edit the tileset so that the ≈ is changed to a solid tile, but that would also affect lakes. --[[User:Savok|Savok]] 12:12, 3 November 2007 (EDT)

According to rule P, this should be at [[Tileset]], but I'd rather have an agreement before moving it. There ''are'' two kinds of tilesets. It doesn't matter to me either way. --[[User:Turgid Bolk|Turgid Bolk]] 01:55, 5 November 2007 (EST)

:I'm trying to use a square tileset and am having a bit of trouble. I followed the instructions to the letter (even compressed the .png to a 24 bit .bmp) so it looked like this (I'm trying to use the Mkv_solidcurses_960x300 tileset);

:Full screen info.

:[FULLSCREENX:960]
:[FULLSCREENY:300]
:[FULLFONT:Mkv_solidcurses_960x300.bmp]

:If this is set to YES, the tiles will not be stretched, but rather the game view will be centralized, surrounded by black space. Tiles that are too large will always be compressed rather than running off the screen.

:[BLACK_SPACE:YES]

:Looks good right? But whenever I try and play in full screen mode it gives me a "Mode switch failed. Running in windowed mode." error.

:Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong? [[User:Thodon|Thodon]] 22:15, 10 November 2007 (EST)

::I had a very similar problem, and ultimately discovered that for FULLSCREEN mode, my PC refused to use any display resolution other than the standard ones, such as 800x600, 1024x768, etc. Windowed mode lets you use odd sizes, but when DF tries to change to a nonstandard fullscreen graphics resolution, it fails. However, even though the graphic set calls for 960x300 or whatever, you can run it in fullscreen at 1024x768, with BLACK_SPACE on, and it should work fine. --[[User:Rochndil|Rochndil]] 09:56, 6 May 2008 (EDT)

I don't understand how to make a graphical tileset like Dystopian Rhetoric. Is there a guide somewhere about it or do I just have to muddle through by looking at an existing set for examples?--[[User:Hamelin|Hamelin]] 23:26, 29 January 2008 (EST)
:I've been experimenting with this, [[Graphics_sets#Veryinky|using the DQ format since more than one set uses it.]] Check the graphics_main.txt file that comes with it. There is help at the bottom. [http://www.dwarffortresswiki.net/index.php/Image:Sphr_dwarves.png Another example is here.] --[[User:Jackard|Jackard]] 00:22, 30 January 2008 (EST)
::Before each race section there is a section describing the location of the image, the dimensions of each tile, and the dimensions of the image. --[[User:Jackard|Jackard]]

==Others? Others? Others? Others? Others?==

If no one objects, I'm going to remove "others?" from each of the entries. It looks ugly and unprofessional. If we ever find a new object that goes to a given symbol, we can always edit the article later. Why bother leaving some placeholder on the list? --[[User:JT|JT]] 17:36, 18 April 2008 (EDT)

:Go ahead, that should clean it up nicely.--[[User:Richards|Richards]] 18:03, 18 April 2008 (EDT)

==Wooden barrels and bins==
Wooden barrels and bins appear to be drawn with reversed foreground and background colors. I'd expect both to be drawn with [[Color]] [6:0:0] (ie. brown on black), but it looks like they're using [0:6:0]. Screw pumps and metal barrels have their colors the normal way around, as do other wooden buildings (chests, cages, etc.). --[[User:Baconslicer|Baconslicer]] 03:56, 6 May 2008 (EDT)

== Some verifications ==

There are a bunch of uncertainties on this page. I can confirm that metal floodgates use X's, and I added a couple of missing bridge labels. [[User:Techhead|Techhead]] 12:01, 7 July 2008 (EDT)

== On stretching tiles ==

Now that we have 39f, I see potentially more people wanting to maximize their screen assets or visibility on very high-res monitors. Added the first draft on how to stretch tiles. Please improve or replace with better versions. -- [[User:Sphr|Sphr]] 05:07, 13 August 2008 (EDT)

:Is there something against [TEXTURE_PARAM=LINEAR] over [TEXTURE_PARAM=NEAREST]? Of course it's just my opinion, but I've been able to (for kicks really) reduce a 16x16 tileset to 4x4 and retain somewhat readability. The scaling happens after the texture is made, so there is a proper blend between foreground and background colors. After testing it with a few tilesets, only the ones with text that fakes shading around the edges of the letters look unnatural--sometimes adds too dark of a border/shading at smaller scales. --[[User:Corc|Corc]] 14:43, 16 August 2008 (EDT)
::nothing against that I guess if you know what you are doing. Just that in general, linear is not recommended for small iconic gfx where pixel details are important (there are usually special algorithms for stretching such gfx.). Nearest will preserve the contrast and details better for such textures. Linear will probably cause all the pixel details to disappear. But it all comes down to personal preference. I can't comment a lot since I am using the texture at it's default resolution, which is recommended for small bitmaps. -- [[User:Sphr|Sphr]] 01:03, 17 August 2008 (EDT)
:::Have you tried it? LINEAR and NEAREST look the same when no scaling is happening. LINEAR isn't a blur effect, it's an interpolation when data isn't available. If anything, the small pixel art would be preserved. Blurriness would only happen when going up in scale, and since no one does (or should do) that, it won't be a problem.--[[User:Corc|Corc]] 11:34, 17 August 2008 (EDT)

== Window sizing (not stretching) ==

I'd like to expand the DF window without stretching images for a greater view. However my attempts have been fruitless so I thought I'd as here. How can I do this? I suppose I'm probably missing something that's staring me in the face. --[[user:Dakira|Dakira]] 22:51, 15AUG2008 (PST)

: First, get the latest version that includes the ability to change the number of tiles show (0.28.181.39f as of right now). Open the init.ini file, ( DF directory\data\init\init.ini ) and change the [GRID:80:25] to something else, note as stated in the init file, the minimum x is 80, and the minimum y is 25, i.e. the default settings. The maximums for both are 200. [[User:Surma|Surma]] 05:05, 16 August 2008 (EDT)

: You may want to look at [[Custom grid]] which also has a link to a javascript calculator to help you compute the resolution you should use. -- [[User:Sphr|Sphr]] 09:50, 16 August 2008 (EDT)

40d Talk:Tilesets

2008-08-16T18:43:44Z

Corc: /* On stretching tiles */

Is there some way to edit it so magma vents appear more prominent on the map screen? I want to be able to see them easily when I fly though many areas. ...

:Not really. You could edit the tileset so that the ≈ is changed to a solid tile, but that would also affect lakes. --[[User:Savok|Savok]] 12:12, 3 November 2007 (EDT)

According to rule P, this should be at [[Tileset]], but I'd rather have an agreement before moving it. There ''are'' two kinds of tilesets. It doesn't matter to me either way. --[[User:Turgid Bolk|Turgid Bolk]] 01:55, 5 November 2007 (EST)

:I'm trying to use a square tileset and am having a bit of trouble. I followed the instructions to the letter (even compressed the .png to a 24 bit .bmp) so it looked like this (I'm trying to use the Mkv_solidcurses_960x300 tileset);

:Full screen info.

:[FULLSCREENX:960]
:[FULLSCREENY:300]
:[FULLFONT:Mkv_solidcurses_960x300.bmp]

:If this is set to YES, the tiles will not be stretched, but rather the game view will be centralized, surrounded by black space. Tiles that are too large will always be compressed rather than running off the screen.

:[BLACK_SPACE:YES]

:Looks good right? But whenever I try and play in full screen mode it gives me a "Mode switch failed. Running in windowed mode." error.

:Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong? [[User:Thodon|Thodon]] 22:15, 10 November 2007 (EST)

::I had a very similar problem, and ultimately discovered that for FULLSCREEN mode, my PC refused to use any display resolution other than the standard ones, such as 800x600, 1024x768, etc. Windowed mode lets you use odd sizes, but when DF tries to change to a nonstandard fullscreen graphics resolution, it fails. However, even though the graphic set calls for 960x300 or whatever, you can run it in fullscreen at 1024x768, with BLACK_SPACE on, and it should work fine. --[[User:Rochndil|Rochndil]] 09:56, 6 May 2008 (EDT)

I don't understand how to make a graphical tileset like Dystopian Rhetoric. Is there a guide somewhere about it or do I just have to muddle through by looking at an existing set for examples?--[[User:Hamelin|Hamelin]] 23:26, 29 January 2008 (EST)
:I've been experimenting with this, [[Graphics_sets#Veryinky|using the DQ format since more than one set uses it.]] Check the graphics_main.txt file that comes with it. There is help at the bottom. [http://www.dwarffortresswiki.net/index.php/Image:Sphr_dwarves.png Another example is here.] --[[User:Jackard|Jackard]] 00:22, 30 January 2008 (EST)
::Before each race section there is a section describing the location of the image, the dimensions of each tile, and the dimensions of the image. --[[User:Jackard|Jackard]]

==Others? Others? Others? Others? Others?==

If no one objects, I'm going to remove "others?" from each of the entries. It looks ugly and unprofessional. If we ever find a new object that goes to a given symbol, we can always edit the article later. Why bother leaving some placeholder on the list? --[[User:JT|JT]] 17:36, 18 April 2008 (EDT)

:Go ahead, that should clean it up nicely.--[[User:Richards|Richards]] 18:03, 18 April 2008 (EDT)

==Wooden barrels and bins==
Wooden barrels and bins appear to be drawn with reversed foreground and background colors. I'd expect both to be drawn with [[Color]] [6:0:0] (ie. brown on black), but it looks like they're using [0:6:0]. Screw pumps and metal barrels have their colors the normal way around, as do other wooden buildings (chests, cages, etc.). --[[User:Baconslicer|Baconslicer]] 03:56, 6 May 2008 (EDT)

== Some verifications ==

There are a bunch of uncertainties on this page. I can confirm that metal floodgates use X's, and I added a couple of missing bridge labels. [[User:Techhead|Techhead]] 12:01, 7 July 2008 (EDT)

== On stretching tiles ==

Now that we have 39f, I see potentially more people wanting to maximize their screen assets or visibility on very high-res monitors. Added the first draft on how to stretch tiles. Please improve or replace with better versions. -- [[User:Sphr|Sphr]] 05:07, 13 August 2008 (EDT)

:Is there something against [TEXTURE_PARAM=LINEAR] over [TEXTURE_PARAM=NEAREST]? Of course it's just my opinion, but I've been able to (for kicks really) reduce a 16x16 tileset to 4x4 and retain somewhat readability. The scaling happens after the texture is made, so there is a proper blend between foreground and background colors. After testing it with a few tilesets, only the ones with text that fakes shading around the edges of the letters look unnatural--sometimes adds too dark of a border/shading at smaller scales. --[[User:Corc|Corc]] 14:43, 16 August 2008 (EDT)

== Window sizing (not stretching) ==

I'd like to expand the DF window without stretching images for a greater view. However my attempts have been fruitless so I thought I'd as here. How can I do this? I suppose I'm probably missing something that's staring me in the face. --[[user:Dakira|Dakira]] 22:51, 15AUG2008 (PST)

: First, get the latest version that includes the ability to change the number of tiles show (0.28.181.39f as of right now). Open the init.ini file, ( DF directory\data\init\init.ini ) and change the [GRID:80:25] to something else, note as stated in the init file, the minimum x is 80, and the minimum y is 25, i.e. the default settings. The maximums for both are 200. [[User:Surma|Surma]] 05:05, 16 August 2008 (EDT)

: You may want to look at [[Custom grid]] which also has a link to a javascript calculator to help you compute the resolution you should use. -- [[User:Sphr|Sphr]] 09:50, 16 August 2008 (EDT)

40d:Custom grid

2008-08-13T23:05:55Z

Corc: /* Notes */

Version 0.28.181.39f introduced the ability to increase the grid from 80 tiles wide by 25 tiles high to as many as 200 by 200.
The resolution and font are still a critical concern and must be calculated to match, to avoid strange results and crushed fonts.

'''To work out what grid size you want for a given screen resolution and font tile size:'''
# Determine your tile size. This may be found by dividing the x value of the intended screen resolution of the font by the x value of the grid, and then the y values are divided by each other. Example: If we use the default grid size, 80:25, and the resolution of curses_800x600.bmp, 800x600, then we would divide 800 by 80 to get 10 and 600 by 25 to get 24. This means our tiles are each 10x24.
# Divide the x value of your screen resolution by the x value of the tile size to determine your wanted x grid value, then do the same with the y values to determine your y grid value.
# Change the [GRID] entry in the init.txt file to reflect your changes.
* Note: if your font is, for example, a 16x16 font, as specified in the filename, this means that each tile is intended to be 16x16 pixels in size, and you may therefore avoid the mathematics in step 1

==Notes==
* The title screen will be situated in the top right of the screen, instead of centred.
* It is impossible to set different grid values for fullscreen and windowed, it is unknown whether this will be implemented in future versions.
* Setting [TEXTURE_PARAM:LINEAR] instead of [TEXTURE_PARAM:NEAREST] will make squished tiles better looking.

== Notable Combinations ==
* [FULLSCREENX:1600], [FULLSCREENY:1200], [FONT:curses_640x300.bmp], [GRID:200:100] (640x300 is 8x12 per tile)
* [FULLSCREENX:1920], [FULLSCREENY:1200], [FONT:curses_800x600.bmp], [GRID:192:100] (800x600 utilized at 10x12 per tile, for an almost square aspect ratio with lots of view space)
* [FULLSCREENX:1680], [FULLSCREENY:1050], [FONT:{any 16x16 font}], [GRID:105:65]

== External links ==
*[http://www.vaevictus.net/dfcalc.html DF Grid Calculator] - A javascript tool to help with the above calculations.

{{Game Interface FAQ}}

40d Talk:Custom grid

2008-08-11T00:51:35Z

Corc: scaling

== Larger tilesets scaled down ==
I've found that, just setting the [TEXTURE_PARAM:LINEAR] makes the scaled tilesets look much nicer. With that set, I just choose the tileset I think looks good and then make the grid whatever size I want. Granted, it looks best when the grid is the same ratio the tileset is--if it's a square tileset, make sure they appear square when scaled. --[[User:Corc|Corc]] 20:51, 10 August 2008 (EDT)

Utility Talk:Tweak

2008-07-20T04:32:47Z

Corc: /* New Versions */

== Suggested Addition(s) ==

How hard would it be to adapt [http://www.dwarffortresswiki.net/index.php/Utilities#Regional_Prospector Regional Prospector] [http://www.dwarffortresswiki.net/index.php/User_talk:0x517A5D#Seekret_Projekt 1] [http://www.dwarffortresswiki.net/index.php/User:0x517A5D#Seekret_Projekt 2] to this application? 
From what I've seen of your newest tool, it looks like it should become the standard for future 'tweaks' :p 
Thanks tons for your contributions to the cause! --[[User:N9103|Edward]] 19:41, 24 March 2008 (EDT)

Oh, and one other idea...
Perhaps a small readme/guide for each of the tools? 
Something like those on the Utilities page would be fine. 

: It could probably be easily ported but I'm not sure I want to take someone elses work so quickly for Tweak. I am working on that kind of a list (see the Tile Edit link on the core modules list). —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 19:49, 24 March 2008 (EDT)

::List? RP doesn't make lists that I know of. And I know TileEdit can create magma/lava (which one is it btw? lava I'm guessing, since I don't think it can create a replenishing pipe in it's current form.) but unless I really get desperate, I'm not going to make a huge pool of lava to tap for various oddities. (i.e. traps/constructions) TileEdit's great for occasionally making a single tile of the stuff when it'd otherwise be a pain to get the liquid to the desired point, or for replenishing an already small source. Unless you're planning on making TileEdit capable of modifying regional tiles, (or alternatively, working like a designation for many tiles at once...) I don't see how it could relate to what RP does. --[[User:N9103|Edward]] 17:31, 29 March 2008 (EDT)

:::As far as I can tell, the list in question is a list of readmes/guides like those on the Utilities page.
:::Magma = lava in an underground square. Lava = magma in an aboveground square. They are identical in all but name. --[[User:Savok|Savok]] 19:52, 29 March 2008 (EDT)

::::Is there an as yet unidentified flag that causes replenishment? --[[User:N9103|Edward]] 00:15, 31 March 2008 (EDT)

:::By 'list' I meant looking up what mineral types, etc, are in the current map. The module is called 'Survey', for obvious reasons. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 00:39, 30 March 2008 (EDT)

::::Hmm.. well, unless you plan on doing that at an embark level, (as opposed to the in-fort level it sounds like,) it still won't be duplicating any effects that RP currently does. --[[User:N9103|Edward]] 00:15, 31 March 2008 (EDT)

::::: I don't intend to duplicate the features of it. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 01:04, 31 March 2008 (EDT)

== Help for the Noob(s) ==

Just downloaded the tweaker after some confusion, for the sake of healing the sole broker of my fort so he can get up and trade smartly enough to save my fort (to be filled with lava, but that's beside the point). Once I started it on up, all the modules but the address lookup were red, and the lookup only turns up <address name="starting_dwarf_count" value="0x00f77927"'.

I'm not entirely sure where to go from here... Any guide forthcoming?

: Red modules mean they are incompatible, I'm going to assume you are running on .38b, the latest is .38c, which Tweak has full support for. I did not bother to provide full support for .38b. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 05:34, 29 March 2008 (EDT)

== Error report ==

For some reason, the latest version (1.2.0.1) crashes whenever I try to run it. This is with or without DF running. Version 1.1.0.0 on the other hand worked fine for me, and still does. This is the debugging info returned for the crash in 1.2.0.1:
An unhandled exception of type 'System.IO.FileNotFoundException' occurred in Gibbed.DwarfFortress.Tweak.exe

Additional information: Could not load file or assembly
'System.Core, Version=3.5.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b77a5c561934e089'
or one of its dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified.
This is with it directly extracted from the zip with proper folder structure, no changes made. I've also tried moving it out to a root folder on the drive in case the long path was confusing it with no success. --[[User:Janus|Janus]] 01:04, 1 April 2008 (EDT)

: Sounds like you don't have .NET 3.5 installed. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 01:53, 1 April 2008 (EDT)

:: Did version 1.1.0.0 not require it? That version has been working fine, and I could have sworn I had to install the .NET 3.5 Framework to get it working.
:: However, whatever the case, I've just (re?)installed the 3.5 framework and that does indeed seem to have taken care of it. Thanks. --[[User:Janus|Janus]] 02:38, 1 April 2008 (EDT)

::: I wasn't using any features of 3.5 yet -- which changed with 1.2.0.0. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 03:40, 1 April 2008 (EDT)

Found an error in the adjust profile module, happens when I click the "reset profile" button when "reset/read/write all" is checked.
System.ArgumentException: 'child' is not a child control of this parent.
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlCollection.GetChildIndex(Control child, Boolean throwException)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlCollection.GetChildIndex(Control child)
at Rinn.DwarfFortress.Tools.AdjustProfile.Configuration.textBox_TextChanged(Object sender, EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnTextChanged(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.TextBoxBase.OnTextChanged(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.set_Text(String value)
at System.Windows.Forms.TextBoxBase.set_Text(String value)
at System.Windows.Forms.TextBox.set_Text(String value)
at Rinn.DwarfFortress.Tools.AdjustProfile.Configuration.buttonReset_Click(Object sender, EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnClick(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnClick(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mevent)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ButtonBase.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Button.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)
[[User:Cheapweed|Cheapweed]] 18:01, 12 April 2008 (EDT)

: Please report that [[User_talk:Rinn/AdjustProfile|on Rinn's AdjustProfile talk page]] —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 22:33, 12 April 2008 (EDT)

== NET 3.5 Compatability ==
Just a quick FYI: Those of us on 2000 cannot (as far as I've been able to determine) install .NET 3.5, which makes it impossible to use the latest version of Tweak. Keeping the 1.1 version online maintains availability of this invaluable tool to those of us who refuse to be infected with the XP virus. —[[User:Rochndil|Rochndil]] 14:49, 3 April 2008 (EDT)

: While I do use .NET 3.5 features, I will see if I can move to .NET 2.0 (or make a 2.0 compatible version). —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 22:58, 3 April 2008 (EDT)

: Or leave it. Seeing as its an 8 year old Operating system that you can't buy any more. More to the point if you are running DF your computer is more than adequate for running Windows XP. --[[User:Gorfob|Gorfob]] 19:00, 14 July 2008 (EDT)

== Blue modules ==
I just installed Tweak for the first time and I seem to have a problem. The buttons beside all the modules are blue, not green like in the picture, and the modules don't appear to do anything. I am running DF version 0.27.176.38c and Tweak version 1.2.0.0. I tied to update to version 1.2.0.1 but it still shows as the old version.

: If your Tile Edit is 1.1, not 1.0, you have 1.2.0.1. As for blue modules, you need to 'Select Process' before you can use anything. There is an option to automatically select a process on startup. Once you do this, modules will either turn red or green as like before. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 22:58, 3 April 2008 (EDT)

== Windows Installer 3.1 ==

It says I need Windows Installer 3.1. Help? --[[User:Savok|Savok]] 19:12, 3 April 2008 (EDT)

:Tweak does, or the .NET 3.5 install does? —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 22:58, 3 April 2008 (EDT)

::Sorry. .NET 3.5 install does. --[[User:Savok|Savok]] 11:41, 4 April 2008 (EDT)

:::What operating system are you using? [http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=889482fc-5f56-4a38-b838-de776fd4138c&displaylang=en Windows Installer 3.1 Redistributable] —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 12:16, 4 April 2008 (EDT)

::::Windows XP Home Edition Version 2002 Service Pack 2.
::::Out of curiosity, what does that 3.1 installer do? --[[User:Savok|Savok]] 15:55, 4 April 2008 (EDT)

:::::It's for MSI installers I would assume. Though I'm not sure how you don't have the Windows Installer 3.1 on XP. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 22:49, 4 April 2008 (EDT)

== Freezing Tile Edit ==

For some reason, whenever I edit a tile using the Tile Edit programme, the next dwarf to step on the tile freezes to death (as will the many dwarves who come to loot the corpse). In the tile edit window, in the temperature section, it shows 0 in the first box (always) and another number of around 12000 in the second. The values by themselves give no indication as to the temperature, and even when I leave them alone, simply changing the tile will result in it becoming a freezing tile of death.
I have no idea if anyone else is experiencing this with tile edit, or whether I'm doing something horribly wrong.
{{unsigned|Maw3193}}

:I get this whenever I try to add water to a square. The water freezes into a block of absolute-zero ice, and freezes to death anybody who steps on it. It doesn't happen when I add magma, or change magma depth. The title bar says version 1.2.0.0, but TileEdit is 1.1 so I guess it's actually 1.2.0.1 (see above) [[User:Anydwarf|Anydwarf]] 12:56, 17 April 2008 (EDT)
::Tile Edit is broken like this. You need to manually set a temperature for EVERY tile you edit. Rick, fix it! >8( --[[User:GreyMario|GreyMario]] 15:44, 3 May 2008 (EDT)
::Also, as an addendum, the top temperature is the NEW temperature for the tile, the bottom temperature is the CURRENT temperature. --[[User:GreyMario|GreyMario]] 15:45, 3 May 2008 (EDT)
::It's not just absolute-zero. According to the Dwarf Fortress temperature scale, it's over nine thousand degrees below absolute-zero :) – [[template:unsigned|unsigned]] comment by [[User:Maw3193|Maw3193]]

:::Before editing any of the tile, press Reset first, it should fill the first temperature in for you. --[[User:SP2|SP2]] 19:20, 7 May 2008 (EDT)

::::Still doesn't work for me, I've tried all of this. I've set the temperature about five different times.. still the freezing tile of DOOM. --[[User:Jaxstrife|Jaxstrife]] 20:51, 7 May 2008 (EDT)

:::::I've identified the bug and it will be fixed in the next release. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 08:16, 9 May 2008 (EDT)

== Developer page ==

I'm interested in making a module for Tweak, will there be more info soon about contributing to it?
(if there is a page I couldn't find that talks about it, feel free to let me know :)
--[[User:Corc|Corc]]

: There hasn't really been any demand for it, but now that there is I'll fill out some info for you. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 01:33, 27 April 2008 (EDT)

:: [[User:Rick/Tweak/Development|I've added some preliminary information to the development page]]. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 17:41, 30 April 2008 (EDT)

How easy would it be to get started with writing a module? I assume Tweak handles the memory editing, but does it hand the module a bunch of bytes, or a fully parsed structure? I'd be interested in at least trying to write up a module.. Maybe you could just post the source for Heal or one of the other simple modules. [[User:Anydwarf|Anydwarf]] 18:57, 29 April 2008 (EDT)

I would just like to add my vote for a .NET 2.0 version since 3+ causes severe problems on my system trying to connect to M$ all the time :P

:I downloaded 3.5 and even got the express versions of Visual Studio to play with. I believe there is an option to "check" when you install that will stop it from contacting MS--I was asked a few times.
:--[[User:Corc|Corc]] 23:57, 28 April 2008 (EDT)

: Tweak's memory access doesn't deal with structures, but does allow for easy reading of common data types (and raw memory, if that's your deal). Reading structures may come in the future, though. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 17:41, 30 April 2008 (EDT)

== Adjust Start: Less Than Seven Dwarves Crashes Game Upon Embarking ==

Crash replicated on two different computers both running windows XP both using .38c version of DF. Different parameter set worlds and different local areas still results in crash, as does both embarking carefully and not carefully. When it crashes I get an error message from windows saying that "dwarffort.exe has encountered a problem and needs to close." I have tested this for 1, 4, and 6 dwarves with the game crashing, and found that with 10 dwarves it did not crash.

== Reveal ==

(Debated about putting this here or on your sample code discussion.) To test out making a new module (very easy btw, awesome) I modified reveal to just reveal interesting stuff like ore and gems. Instead of releasing a whole new (very similar and 99% your code) module maybe you could add a quick if statement/popup that people could check when they run it? Basically what I did was inside the nested for loops I added in getting the "type" data and if the type was for an event, <code>B8 01</code>, then I'd let it do your unhide bit.

<pre>
memory.Read(block + designation, ref data);
memory.Read(block + typeoffset, ref types); // added types, half the size of data, (256 * 2)
for (int i = 0; i < 16 * 16; i++)
{
byte[] temp = BitConverter.GetBytes(BitConverter.ToInt16(types, i * 2)); // actual type
if (temp[0] == 184) // I found that 0xB8 is all that is needed to check
{
byte[] newdata = BitConverter.GetBytes(BitConverter.ToUInt32(data, i * 4) & ~0x200);
data[(i * 4) + 0] = newdata[0];
data[(i * 4) + 1] = newdata[1];
data[(i * 4) + 2] = newdata[2];
data[(i * 4) + 3] = newdata[3];
}
}
</pre>

This unhides only Gems, Ore, "Special" Stone like Orthocast, adamantine and any other out of the ordinary biome stone.

I thought about making a crazy convoluted module that would scan the map for types of events and let the user enable the ones they wanted unhidden and then unhide them. But, after going into the event list and finding event IDs (I've got a complete list now) I found it to be too crazy... actually as I typed that I figured out how I could do it with about a forth of what I had coded earlier.
--[[User:Corc|Corc]] 04:04, 11 May 2008 (EDT)

== .NET install freeze? ==

Does .NET ever finish installing? As I write this it's been sitting with a full progress bar for 35 minutes, and took an inordinate amount of time to even get there. (And the bootstrap downloader was completely unusable, kept losing progress.) 
As far as I can tell, it's not even spinning the HDD... though it went through long periods of that before, too. 
Addendum: Rebooting on its own didn't help, but rebooting and aggressively killing running processes down to the bare-bones did... finally.– [[template:unsigned|unsigned]] comment by [[User:Shurhaian|Shurhaian]]

:That's some highly unusual behavior, and I would recommend a through virus and adware scan using atleast two versions of each. 
:For Viruses, [http://housecall.trendmicro.com/ Trend Micro] has a good online scanner, and [http://free.grisoft.com/ AVG] is a good offline scanner. 
:For Adware, [http://www.safer-networking.org/en/spybotsd/index.html Spybot S&D] is just about as good as it gets, and [http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/default.mspx Microsoft] has a semi-decent one as well. 
:All of these are free. Hope this helps! If not, *could be* some core OS files have been damaged somehow, and *may* require a re-install. --[[User:N9103|Edward]] 21:40, 14 May 2008 (EDT)

== Another on the 3.5 bug list ==

Allright; I have .net Framework 3.5 installed and its giving me the same error a guy midway up had;
the.......... IO.notfound thing

Okay scratch that i unzipped tweak again and its running fine.
it seems tweak doesnt like XP.

Your program has good tastes sir.

== Problem not otherwise found on here. ==
When trying to select a process, I get this error. Net framework 3.5 is installed.
<pre>
************** Exception Text **************
System.Reflection.TargetInvocationException: Exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation. ---> System.InvalidOperationException: This implementation is not part of the Windows Platform FIPS validated cryptographic algorithms.
at System.Security.Cryptography.MD5CryptoServiceProvider..ctor()
--- End of inner exception stack trace ---
at System.RuntimeMethodHandle._InvokeConstructor(Object[] args, SignatureStruct& signature, IntPtr declaringType)
at System.RuntimeMethodHandle.InvokeConstructor(Object[] args, SignatureStruct signature, RuntimeTypeHandle declaringType)
at System.Reflection.RuntimeConstructorInfo.Invoke(BindingFlags invokeAttr, Binder binder, Object[] parameters, CultureInfo culture)
at System.Security.Cryptography.CryptoConfig.CreateFromName(String name, Object[] args)
at System.Security.Cryptography.MD5.Create(String algName)
at System.Security.Cryptography.MD5.Create()
at Gibbed.DwarfFortress.Tweak.GameVersionLoader.GetProcessHash(Process process)
at Gibbed.DwarfFortress.Tweak.ModulePicker.onSelectProcess(Object sender, EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.RaiseEvent(Object key, EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripButton.OnClick(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.HandleClick(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.HandleMouseUp(MouseEventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.FireEventInteractive(EventArgs e, ToolStripItemEventType met)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.FireEvent(EventArgs e, ToolStripItemEventType met)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStrip.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mea)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ScrollableControl.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStrip.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)
</pre>

:What version of windows are you running? —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 20:47, 13 July 2008 (EDT)

== .NET 3.5 errors: Tweak not Vista compatiale? ==

I have installed .NET 3.5 and tried to run Tweak on my computer. However, It instantly crashes. Is there anything else I should have installed? I am running windows Vista.

Thanks.

:Can you please paste the exact error, I cannot help with problems without knowing specifics. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 20:46, 13 July 2008 (EDT)

I Have the exact same problem, the error is the default vista error. i think this only happens with the newest version of tweak, as i used to beable to run it (though the tile editor never ran for me) —[[User:Corhen|Corhen]] 8:55, 15 July 2008

==Start Error==
Opening Tweak, the program crashes. There's no error message per se, it just doesn't open and give the default windows error message, and asks me if I want to send a report. Help?

:you need to install separately .NET 1.1 as well as .NET 2.0, .NET 3.5 does not install these previous versions....

Even with all versions of .NET that exist already installed, Tweak crashed on startup. I am using an up-to-date version of WinXP SP3. I hope that it causes no problems that I unfortunately have a German language version of XP. Proof of installed .NET versions: http://members.arstechnica.com/x/dio82/software.png

Error message:

EventType : clr20r3 P1 : gibbed.dwarffortress.tweak.exe P2 : 1.2.0.0
P3 : 47f19dc1 P4 : mscorlib P5 : 2.0.0.0 P6 : 471ebc5b P7 : 3404
P8 : 119 P9 : system.io.directorynotfound

Many thanks to potential fixes -[[User:Dio82|Dio82]] 08:36, 4 July 2008 (EDT)

I'd just like to note that I also have all three .NET versions downloaded and installed, and I still get the general Windows Vista error message (Tweak has stopped working, windows is searching for a solution... A program caused the program to stop working, windows will close the program). I've tried starting up Tweak before loading DF, during the DF title screen, and while playing a current fortress. I didn't, however, get the detailed error message described above. --[[User:Untelligent|Untelligent]] 21:57, 4 July 2008 (EDT)

:The above error message is part of the report that XP/Vista wants to send to Microsoft. Just click on details of the report when Vista prompts you about sending that report. --[[User:Dio82|Dio82]] 06:05, 5 July 2008 (EDT)

:It didn't prompt me for sending a report. --[[User:Untelligent|Untelligent]] 16:17, 6 July 2008 (EDT)

:This error is basically saying you did not extract Tweak correctly, the Tweak zip file contains several directories that Tweak needs to function correctly. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 20:46, 13 July 2008 (EDT)

==Reveal and Profile Edit Issue==

I've downloaded your program and managed to get a few features working, such as the one that allows you to change your starting dwarf number and points. The two modules I wanted to use most, however, Reveal and Profile Edit, don't seem to want to work at all, and as far as I can tell, I'm not getting a program error so much as... I don't know, a failure to recognize something. I'm not a programmer, you'll notice.

When attempting to use Reveal at the regional map, I get [http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b296/Bitscape2000/RevealProblem.jpg this].

When attempting to use the Profile Editor at the "preparing carefully" screen, as it says, I get [http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b296/Bitscape2000/ProfileProblem.jpg this], and if I click the OK button it says [http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b296/Bitscape2000/ProfileProblem2.jpg this].

Apologies for the largish screenshots. Any idea what might help? --[[User:Anfini|Anfini]] 15:57, 11 July 2008 (EDT)

: The Reveal tool is only used while already embarked. Find a place to start your fortress, embark, and then run Reveal. And, keep in mind if you want to reveal all of the map you have to designate the bottom layer for digging completely then undesignated it BEFORE you run reveal--this will make DF load up the map for Reveal to find. As for the other errors, I'm not sure what is going on. Sorry. --[[User:Corc|Corc]] 18:36, 11 July 2008 (EDT)

::Thanks for the help with Reveal, that worked perfectly. I suppose I misunderstood the module. The Profile dealie is the one I ''really'' want to use, though! If anyone has insight on how to work it, I would be grateful. Thanks! --[[User:Anfini|Anfini]] 19:24, 11 July 2008 (EDT)

== Tile Edit Tile ID List ==

Further explorations with Tweak leave me convinced we're missing another memory location that holds each block's type. Sandy clay Wall in one area doesn't match up with the data I gathered for my table of IDs, and there isn't enough data to be customized in Tile Edit to account for all the possibilities of ores and gems. Unfortunately I'm not knowledgable enough, nor am I patient enough, to find this memory location. →[[User:Valarnin|Valarnin]] 19:37, 16 July 2008 (EDT)

: Tile composition and gem type are special cases that are not held in tile data, and they have not been completely understood. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 19:58, 16 July 2008 (EDT)

:: Actually Gems and ore are understood. They are considered Events (from the memory hack page terms) and are flagged by a bitmap. The code sample I posted above, to add in finding only deposits of ore to Reveal, uses another 16x16 array to specify quickly that an event is taking place in that tile--then checks the bitmaps for what kind of ore (gem/ore/whatever) goes there. The events use the global tile ids which it gets from the raw files (and is in the order read in from those raw files). Using events you can add any type of deposit to the tile area (add sand to obsidian). When I was looking into the TileIDs I came to the conclusion that the IDs are in a pattern and the type of rock/soil is dependent on the biome set for that tile. IDs X -> Y for example will always be smooth walls, just of main biome material. What designates the Biome is probably another one of the 16x16 blocks of data--I just got on a side track and never figured out which one for sure. To test/confirm this, try finding a value that changes a stone type to a soil type then give that same soil TileID to a different kind of stone on another layer--it should turn into a soil type as well, but most likely not the same kind as before. Doing that on the first 2 layers of the map will make it easier since it usually has both rock and soil from the same biome. I started documenting this on my user page. --[[User:Corc|Corc]] 20:34, 16 July 2008 (EDT)

::: I'm not sure why you wrote that blurb instead of linking to my page on it. I know the gem stuff is known, I should have been more clear, I meant the composition/type regional layer muckery. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 20:51, 16 July 2008 (EDT)

::::Sorry 'bout that. Which page are you talking about? There are so many, that when I was looking for info I really didn't know where to look for valid info. I wrote the blurb because he was talking about gems and ore specifically, and I guess I misunderstood your response. --[[User:Corc|Corc]] 21:34, 16 July 2008 (EDT)

::::: [[User:Rick/Memory_research#Mineral_Event]] —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 22:01, 16 July 2008 (EDT)

:::::: OK, great, I wasn't sure if there was a newer one made. Now Valarnin has a link and a short explanation to go with it. So now he may be inspired to continue having fun digging in the memory :) --[[User:Corc|Corc]] 00:38, 17 July 2008 (EDT)

::::::: I'm not sure I understand exactly what's going on there. Is the vector a pointer to the mineral event's location? It would be so much easier if this was mapped out in Tile Edit. Speaking of Tile Edit, is the source available? I may be able to modify it to show the extra info. →[[User:Valarnin|Valarnin]] 13:37, 17 July 2008 (EDT)

::::::: Okay, I built Corc's modification to Reveal and learned a bit from that, but I have no example of a GUI and I'm a C++ programmer, not a C# programmer. I need an example of a GUI. →[[User:Valarnin|Valarnin]] 14:11, 17 July 2008 (EDT)

:::::::: I was trying to do something similar myself. Just in case you didn't see it, here is a link to Rick's Dev discussion ([[User_Talk:Rick/Tweak/Development]]) which might be a better place to talk about all this. What I did was just go through the c# gui sample and copy and paste stuff in while reading about what does what. --[[User:Corc|Corc]] 14:26, 17 July 2008 (EDT)

== New Versions ==
Any Idea when we will have an update for the most recent versions? What is needed? What do us Noobs do to get it to work?--[[User:ERoberts|ERoberts]] 13:58, 17 July 2008 (EDT)

: I'm currently busy "in real life" with work so I can't tend to Tweak for the latest version of DF just yet. Aside from minor bugs with Tweak modules (such as the freezing bug with Tile Edit) there is no need for an update other than providing Tweak with data for the version you want to use it with. You can probably find the information needed for Tweak's XML files for the new version on Jifodus's user page. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 05:20, 18 July 2008 (EDT)

:: Sorry its been a while since I've done this, do I still just put that info in a memory.ini file?

::: I've got something to do today, but if no one has done it yet, I'll try to get something available later tonight for people. --[[User:Corc|Corc]] 11:42, 18 July 2008 (EDT)

:::: You get the hash for the newest version, open up versions.xml, and add a new line such as this:
<version name="0.27.176.39c" hash="8f8cf06b1cd5ea102881a7cced767d4f" />
:::: Then, you copy the newest version's folder you have in the versions folder and rename it to the newest version. Finally, you change the data in each xml file to match Jifodus's user page. I've uploaded the newest versions and the versions.xml file for 39b and 39c here:
http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=309
:::: However, I couldn't get anything to do with creatures to work. I couldn't seem to find a value to put in for race_vector from Jifodus's page. Corc, if you happen to know, tell me and I'll update the file.

::::: Sorry to drop the ball. I don't think I could do much more than what was done already without spending a lot of time I don't have. Very grateful to whoever set that up (post your sig next time :P) --[[User:Corc|Corc]] 00:32, 20 July 2008 (EDT)

Utility Talk:Tweak

2008-07-18T15:42:27Z

Corc: /* New Versions */

Utility Talk:Tweak

2008-07-17T18:26:34Z

Corc: /* Tile Edit Tile ID List */

Utility Talk:Tweak

2008-07-17T04:38:20Z

Corc: /* Tile Edit Tile ID List */

Utility Talk:Tweak

2008-07-17T01:34:32Z

Corc: /* Tile Edit Tile ID List */

Utility Talk:Tweak

2008-07-17T00:34:27Z

Corc: /* Tile Edit Tile ID List */

Utility Talk:Tweak

2008-07-11T22:36:16Z

Corc: /* Reveal and Profile Edit Issue */

== Suggested Addition(s) ==

How hard would it be to adapt [http://www.dwarffortresswiki.net/index.php/Utilities#Regional_Prospector Regional Prospector] [http://www.dwarffortresswiki.net/index.php/User_talk:0x517A5D#Seekret_Projekt 1] [http://www.dwarffortresswiki.net/index.php/User:0x517A5D#Seekret_Projekt 2] to this application? 
From what I've seen of your newest tool, it looks like it should become the standard for future 'tweaks' :p 
Thanks tons for your contributions to the cause! --[[User:N9103|Edward]] 19:41, 24 March 2008 (EDT)

Oh, and one other idea...
Perhaps a small readme/guide for each of the tools? 
Something like those on the Utilities page would be fine. 

: It could probably be easily ported but I'm not sure I want to take someone elses work so quickly for Tweak. I am working on that kind of a list (see the Tile Edit link on the core modules list). —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 19:49, 24 March 2008 (EDT)

::List? RP doesn't make lists that I know of. And I know TileEdit can create magma/lava (which one is it btw? lava I'm guessing, since I don't think it can create a replenishing pipe in it's current form.) but unless I really get desperate, I'm not going to make a huge pool of lava to tap for various oddities. (i.e. traps/constructions) TileEdit's great for occasionally making a single tile of the stuff when it'd otherwise be a pain to get the liquid to the desired point, or for replenishing an already small source. Unless you're planning on making TileEdit capable of modifying regional tiles, (or alternatively, working like a designation for many tiles at once...) I don't see how it could relate to what RP does. --[[User:N9103|Edward]] 17:31, 29 March 2008 (EDT)

:::As far as I can tell, the list in question is a list of readmes/guides like those on the Utilities page.
:::Magma = lava in an underground square. Lava = magma in an aboveground square. They are identical in all but name. --[[User:Savok|Savok]] 19:52, 29 March 2008 (EDT)

::::Is there an as yet unidentified flag that causes replenishment? --[[User:N9103|Edward]] 00:15, 31 March 2008 (EDT)

:::By 'list' I meant looking up what mineral types, etc, are in the current map. The module is called 'Survey', for obvious reasons. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 00:39, 30 March 2008 (EDT)

::::Hmm.. well, unless you plan on doing that at an embark level, (as opposed to the in-fort level it sounds like,) it still won't be duplicating any effects that RP currently does. --[[User:N9103|Edward]] 00:15, 31 March 2008 (EDT)

::::: I don't intend to duplicate the features of it. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 01:04, 31 March 2008 (EDT)

== Help for the Noob(s) ==

Just downloaded the tweaker after some confusion, for the sake of healing the sole broker of my fort so he can get up and trade smartly enough to save my fort (to be filled with lava, but that's beside the point). Once I started it on up, all the modules but the address lookup were red, and the lookup only turns up <address name="starting_dwarf_count" value="0x00f77927"'.

I'm not entirely sure where to go from here... Any guide forthcoming?

: Red modules mean they are incompatible, I'm going to assume you are running on .38b, the latest is .38c, which Tweak has full support for. I did not bother to provide full support for .38b. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 05:34, 29 March 2008 (EDT)

== Error report ==

For some reason, the latest version (1.2.0.1) crashes whenever I try to run it. This is with or without DF running. Version 1.1.0.0 on the other hand worked fine for me, and still does. This is the debugging info returned for the crash in 1.2.0.1:
An unhandled exception of type 'System.IO.FileNotFoundException' occurred in Gibbed.DwarfFortress.Tweak.exe

Additional information: Could not load file or assembly
'System.Core, Version=3.5.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b77a5c561934e089'
or one of its dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified.
This is with it directly extracted from the zip with proper folder structure, no changes made. I've also tried moving it out to a root folder on the drive in case the long path was confusing it with no success. --[[User:Janus|Janus]] 01:04, 1 April 2008 (EDT)

: Sounds like you don't have .NET 3.5 installed. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 01:53, 1 April 2008 (EDT)

:: Did version 1.1.0.0 not require it? That version has been working fine, and I could have sworn I had to install the .NET 3.5 Framework to get it working.
:: However, whatever the case, I've just (re?)installed the 3.5 framework and that does indeed seem to have taken care of it. Thanks. --[[User:Janus|Janus]] 02:38, 1 April 2008 (EDT)

::: I wasn't using any features of 3.5 yet -- which changed with 1.2.0.0. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 03:40, 1 April 2008 (EDT)

Found an error in the adjust profile module, happens when I click the "reset profile" button when "reset/read/write all" is checked.
System.ArgumentException: 'child' is not a child control of this parent.
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlCollection.GetChildIndex(Control child, Boolean throwException)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlCollection.GetChildIndex(Control child)
at Rinn.DwarfFortress.Tools.AdjustProfile.Configuration.textBox_TextChanged(Object sender, EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnTextChanged(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.TextBoxBase.OnTextChanged(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.set_Text(String value)
at System.Windows.Forms.TextBoxBase.set_Text(String value)
at System.Windows.Forms.TextBox.set_Text(String value)
at Rinn.DwarfFortress.Tools.AdjustProfile.Configuration.buttonReset_Click(Object sender, EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnClick(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnClick(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mevent)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ButtonBase.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Button.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)
[[User:Cheapweed|Cheapweed]] 18:01, 12 April 2008 (EDT)

: Please report that [[User_talk:Rinn/AdjustProfile|on Rinn's AdjustProfile talk page]] —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 22:33, 12 April 2008 (EDT)

== NET 3.5 Compatability ==
Just a quick FYI: Those of us on 2000 cannot (as far as I've been able to determine) install .NET 3.5, which makes it impossible to use the latest version of Tweak. Keeping the 1.1 version online maintains availability of this invaluable tool to those of us who refuse to be infected with the XP virus. —[[User:Rochndil|Rochndil]] 14:49, 3 April 2008 (EDT)

: While I do use .NET 3.5 features, I will see if I can move to .NET 2.0 (or make a 2.0 compatible version). —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 22:58, 3 April 2008 (EDT)

== Blue modules ==
I just installed Tweak for the first time and I seem to have a problem. The buttons beside all the modules are blue, not green like in the picture, and the modules don't appear to do anything. I am running DF version 0.27.176.38c and Tweak version 1.2.0.0. I tied to update to version 1.2.0.1 but it still shows as the old version.

: If your Tile Edit is 1.1, not 1.0, you have 1.2.0.1. As for blue modules, you need to 'Select Process' before you can use anything. There is an option to automatically select a process on startup. Once you do this, modules will either turn red or green as like before. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 22:58, 3 April 2008 (EDT)

== Windows Installer 3.1 ==

It says I need Windows Installer 3.1. Help? --[[User:Savok|Savok]] 19:12, 3 April 2008 (EDT)

:Tweak does, or the .NET 3.5 install does? —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 22:58, 3 April 2008 (EDT)

::Sorry. .NET 3.5 install does. --[[User:Savok|Savok]] 11:41, 4 April 2008 (EDT)

:::What operating system are you using? [http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=889482fc-5f56-4a38-b838-de776fd4138c&displaylang=en Windows Installer 3.1 Redistributable] —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 12:16, 4 April 2008 (EDT)

::::Windows XP Home Edition Version 2002 Service Pack 2.
::::Out of curiosity, what does that 3.1 installer do? --[[User:Savok|Savok]] 15:55, 4 April 2008 (EDT)

:::::It's for MSI installers I would assume. Though I'm not sure how you don't have the Windows Installer 3.1 on XP. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 22:49, 4 April 2008 (EDT)

== Freezing Tile Edit ==

For some reason, whenever I edit a tile using the Tile Edit programme, the next dwarf to step on the tile freezes to death (as will the many dwarves who come to loot the corpse). In the tile edit window, in the temperature section, it shows 0 in the first box (always) and another number of around 12000 in the second. The values by themselves give no indication as to the temperature, and even when I leave them alone, simply changing the tile will result in it becoming a freezing tile of death.
I have no idea if anyone else is experiencing this with tile edit, or whether I'm doing something horribly wrong.
{{unsigned|Maw3193}}

:I get this whenever I try to add water to a square. The water freezes into a block of absolute-zero ice, and freezes to death anybody who steps on it. It doesn't happen when I add magma, or change magma depth. The title bar says version 1.2.0.0, but TileEdit is 1.1 so I guess it's actually 1.2.0.1 (see above) [[User:Anydwarf|Anydwarf]] 12:56, 17 April 2008 (EDT)
::Tile Edit is broken like this. You need to manually set a temperature for EVERY tile you edit. Rick, fix it! >8( --[[User:GreyMario|GreyMario]] 15:44, 3 May 2008 (EDT)
::Also, as an addendum, the top temperature is the NEW temperature for the tile, the bottom temperature is the CURRENT temperature. --[[User:GreyMario|GreyMario]] 15:45, 3 May 2008 (EDT)
::It's not just absolute-zero. According to the Dwarf Fortress temperature scale, it's over nine thousand degrees below absolute-zero :) – [[template:unsigned|unsigned]] comment by [[User:Maw3193|Maw3193]]

:::Before editing any of the tile, press Reset first, it should fill the first temperature in for you. --[[User:SP2|SP2]] 19:20, 7 May 2008 (EDT)

::::Still doesn't work for me, I've tried all of this. I've set the temperature about five different times.. still the freezing tile of DOOM. --[[User:Jaxstrife|Jaxstrife]] 20:51, 7 May 2008 (EDT)

:::::I've identified the bug and it will be fixed in the next release. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 08:16, 9 May 2008 (EDT)

== Developer page ==

I'm interested in making a module for Tweak, will there be more info soon about contributing to it?
(if there is a page I couldn't find that talks about it, feel free to let me know :)
--[[User:Corc|Corc]]

: There hasn't really been any demand for it, but now that there is I'll fill out some info for you. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 01:33, 27 April 2008 (EDT)

:: [[User:Rick/Tweak/Development|I've added some preliminary information to the development page]]. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 17:41, 30 April 2008 (EDT)

How easy would it be to get started with writing a module? I assume Tweak handles the memory editing, but does it hand the module a bunch of bytes, or a fully parsed structure? I'd be interested in at least trying to write up a module.. Maybe you could just post the source for Heal or one of the other simple modules. [[User:Anydwarf|Anydwarf]] 18:57, 29 April 2008 (EDT)

I would just like to add my vote for a .NET 2.0 version since 3+ causes severe problems on my system trying to connect to M$ all the time :P

:I downloaded 3.5 and even got the express versions of Visual Studio to play with. I believe there is an option to "check" when you install that will stop it from contacting MS--I was asked a few times.
:--[[User:Corc|Corc]] 23:57, 28 April 2008 (EDT)

: Tweak's memory access doesn't deal with structures, but does allow for easy reading of common data types (and raw memory, if that's your deal). Reading structures may come in the future, though. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 17:41, 30 April 2008 (EDT)

== Adjust Start: Less Than Seven Dwarves Crashes Game Upon Embarking ==

Crash replicated on two different computers both running windows XP both using .38c version of DF. Different parameter set worlds and different local areas still results in crash, as does both embarking carefully and not carefully. When it crashes I get an error message from windows saying that "dwarffort.exe has encountered a problem and needs to close." I have tested this for 1, 4, and 6 dwarves with the game crashing, and found that with 10 dwarves it did not crash.

== Reveal ==

(Debated about putting this here or on your sample code discussion.) To test out making a new module (very easy btw, awesome) I modified reveal to just reveal interesting stuff like ore and gems. Instead of releasing a whole new (very similar and 99% your code) module maybe you could add a quick if statement/popup that people could check when they run it? Basically what I did was inside the nested for loops I added in getting the "type" data and if the type was for an event, <code>B8 01</code>, then I'd let it do your unhide bit.

<pre>
memory.Read(block + designation, ref data);
memory.Read(block + typeoffset, ref types); // added types, half the size of data, (256 * 2)
for (int i = 0; i < 16 * 16; i++)
{
byte[] temp = BitConverter.GetBytes(BitConverter.ToInt16(types, i * 2)); // actual type
if (temp[0] == 184) // I found that 0xB8 is all that is needed to check
{
byte[] newdata = BitConverter.GetBytes(BitConverter.ToUInt32(data, i * 4) & ~0x200);
data[(i * 4) + 0] = newdata[0];
data[(i * 4) + 1] = newdata[1];
data[(i * 4) + 2] = newdata[2];
data[(i * 4) + 3] = newdata[3];
}
}
</pre>

This unhides only Gems, Ore, "Special" Stone like Orthocast, adamantine and any other out of the ordinary biome stone.

I thought about making a crazy convoluted module that would scan the map for types of events and let the user enable the ones they wanted unhidden and then unhide them. But, after going into the event list and finding event IDs (I've got a complete list now) I found it to be too crazy... actually as I typed that I figured out how I could do it with about a forth of what I had coded earlier.
--[[User:Corc|Corc]] 04:04, 11 May 2008 (EDT)

== .NET install freeze? ==

Does .NET ever finish installing? As I write this it's been sitting with a full progress bar for 35 minutes, and took an inordinate amount of time to even get there. (And the bootstrap downloader was completely unusable, kept losing progress.) 
As far as I can tell, it's not even spinning the HDD... though it went through long periods of that before, too. 
Addendum: Rebooting on its own didn't help, but rebooting and aggressively killing running processes down to the bare-bones did... finally.– [[template:unsigned|unsigned]] comment by [[User:Shurhaian|Shurhaian]]

:That's some highly unusual behavior, and I would recommend a through virus and adware scan using atleast two versions of each. 
:For Viruses, [http://housecall.trendmicro.com/ Trend Micro] has a good online scanner, and [http://free.grisoft.com/ AVG] is a good offline scanner. 
:For Adware, [http://www.safer-networking.org/en/spybotsd/index.html Spybot S&D] is just about as good as it gets, and [http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/default.mspx Microsoft] has a semi-decent one as well. 
:All of these are free. Hope this helps! If not, *could be* some core OS files have been damaged somehow, and *may* require a re-install. --[[User:N9103|Edward]] 21:40, 14 May 2008 (EDT)

== Another on the 3.5 bug list ==

Allright; I have .net Framework 3.5 installed and its giving me the same error a guy midway up had;
the.......... IO.notfound thing

Okay scratch that i unzipped tweak again and its running fine.
it seems tweak doesnt like XP.

Your program has good tastes sir.

== Problem not otherwise found on here. ==
When trying to select a process, I get this error. Net framework 3.5 is installed.
<pre>
************** Exception Text **************
System.Reflection.TargetInvocationException: Exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation. ---> System.InvalidOperationException: This implementation is not part of the Windows Platform FIPS validated cryptographic algorithms.
at System.Security.Cryptography.MD5CryptoServiceProvider..ctor()
--- End of inner exception stack trace ---
at System.RuntimeMethodHandle._InvokeConstructor(Object[] args, SignatureStruct& signature, IntPtr declaringType)
at System.RuntimeMethodHandle.InvokeConstructor(Object[] args, SignatureStruct signature, RuntimeTypeHandle declaringType)
at System.Reflection.RuntimeConstructorInfo.Invoke(BindingFlags invokeAttr, Binder binder, Object[] parameters, CultureInfo culture)
at System.Security.Cryptography.CryptoConfig.CreateFromName(String name, Object[] args)
at System.Security.Cryptography.MD5.Create(String algName)
at System.Security.Cryptography.MD5.Create()
at Gibbed.DwarfFortress.Tweak.GameVersionLoader.GetProcessHash(Process process)
at Gibbed.DwarfFortress.Tweak.ModulePicker.onSelectProcess(Object sender, EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.RaiseEvent(Object key, EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripButton.OnClick(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.HandleClick(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.HandleMouseUp(MouseEventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.FireEventInteractive(EventArgs e, ToolStripItemEventType met)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.FireEvent(EventArgs e, ToolStripItemEventType met)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStrip.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mea)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ScrollableControl.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStrip.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)
</pre>

== .NET 3.5 errors: Tweak not Vista compatiale? ==

I have installed .NET 3.5 and tried to run Tweak on my computer. However, It instantly crashes. Is there anything else I should have installed? I am running windows Vista.

Thanks.

==Start Error==
Openeing Tweak, the program crashes. There's no error message per se, it just doesn't open and give the default windows error message, and asks me if I want to send a report. Help?

:you need to install separately .NET 1.1 as well as .NET 2.0, .NET 3.5 does not install these previous versions....

Even with all versions of .NET that exist already installed, Tweak crashed on startup. I am using an up-to-date version of WinXP SP3. I hope that it causes no problems that I unfortunately have a German language version of XP. Proof of installed .NET versions: http://members.arstechnica.com/x/dio82/software.png

Error message:

EventType : clr20r3 P1 : gibbed.dwarffortress.tweak.exe P2 : 1.2.0.0
P3 : 47f19dc1 P4 : mscorlib P5 : 2.0.0.0 P6 : 471ebc5b P7 : 3404
P8 : 119 P9 : system.io.directorynotfound

Many thanks to potential fixes -[[User:Dio82|Dio82]] 08:36, 4 July 2008 (EDT)

I'd just like to note that I also have all three .NET versions downloaded and installed, and I still get the general Windows Vista error message (Tweak has stopped working, windows is searching for a solution... A program caused the program to stop working, windows will close the program). I've tried starting up Tweak before loading DF, during the DF title screen, and while playing a current fortress. I didn't, however, get the detailed error message described above. --[[User:Untelligent|Untelligent]] 21:57, 4 July 2008 (EDT)

:The above error message is part of the report that XP/Vista wants to send to Microsoft. Just click on details of the report when Vista prompts you about sending that report. --[[User:Dio82|Dio82]] 06:05, 5 July 2008 (EDT)

:It didn't prompt me for sending a report. --[[User:Untelligent|Untelligent]] 16:17, 6 July 2008 (EDT)

==Reveal and Profile Edit Issue==

I've downloaded your program and managed to get a few features working, such as the one that allows you to change your starting dwarf number and points. The two modules I wanted to use most, however, Reveal and Profile Edit, don't seem to want to work at all, and as far as I can tell, I'm not getting a program error so much as... I don't know, a failure to recognize something. I'm not a programmer, you'll notice.

When attempting to use Reveal at the regional map, I get [http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b296/Bitscape2000/RevealProblem.jpg this].
Reveal is for use on the local map. With Regional prospector you can show features like underground rivers and such on the world map.

When attempting to use the Profile Editor at the "preparing carefully" screen, as it says, I get [http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b296/Bitscape2000/ProfileProblem.jpg this], and if I click the OK button it says [http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b296/Bitscape2000/ProfileProblem2.jpg this].

Apologies for the largish screenshots. Any idea what might help? [[User:Anfini|Anfini]] 15:57, 11 July 2008 (EDT)

: The Reveal tool is only used while already embarked. Find a place to start your fortress, embark, and then run Reveal. And, keep in mind if you want to reveal all of the map you have to designate the bottom layer for digging completely then undesignated it BEFORE you run reveal--this will make DF load up the map for Reveal to find. As for the other errors, I'm not sure what is going on. Sorry. --[[User:Corc|Corc]] 18:36, 11 July 2008 (EDT)

40d Talk:Thought

2008-07-07T04:29:23Z

Corc: Losing an annoying acquaintance?

does a dwarf's [[preferences]] effect their thoughts? ie: will having a room made out of gold increase the happiness of a dwarf that loves gold more than a dwarf who loves copper? --[[User:Kingzilla|Kingzilla]] 16:50, 7 February 2008 (EST)

What are the effects of marriage, or starting a grudge, or other additions in 176.38a? --[[User:DDouble|DDouble]] 11:39, 20 February 2008 (EST)

== Layout ==

For the spoiler section, what about this layout rather than a large pre block?
{|
!colspan=2|Major events
|-
|is happy to be free
|align="right"|+####
|-
|is quite pleased with making an artifact
|align="right"|+####
|-
|was forced to eat a treasured pet to survive lately
|align="right"|-####
|-
|has suffered the travesty of art defacement
|align="right"|-####
|-
!colspan=2|Sleeping
|-
|colspan=2 align="center"|slept <place> recently
|-
|in the mud
|align="right"|-##
|-
|in the grass
|align="right"|-##
|-
|in the dirt
|align="right"|-##
|-
|on rocks
|align="right"|-#
|-
|on a rough cave floor
|align="right"|-#
|-
|on the floor
|align="right"|-#
|-
!colspan=2|Complaints
|-
|colspan=2 align=center|has <ailment> lately
|-
|complained of hunger
|align="right"|-#
|-
|complained of thirst
|align="right"|-#
|-
|been tired
|align="right"|-#
|-
|}
--[[User:Shagie|Shagie]] 16:43, 12 March 2008 (EDT)

:Sounds great. I've been meaning to do it sometime but I don't have the time, with my poor, task-slowing wiki-code skills.
:Note that a lot of this is probably wrong. You'll need some way to state what version each has been verified for, which, unless 0x517A5D decides to give us some more/more recent values, will probably always be 0.23.130.23a --[[User:Savok|Savok]] 22:18, 12 March 2008 (EDT)

maybe this should be the place where "happiness" is redirected to since it's important because it'll keep dwarves from going on a rampage...i think...or something.--[[User:Seaneat|Seaneat]] 08:48, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

"Was put off by a lesser's pretentious dining arrangements lately"
what does this mean?
someone ate at their dining table or they ate near someone lesser or ate some where poor?
--[[User:Seaneat|Seaneat]] 05:48, 1 July 2008 (EDT)

:They noticed that someone less important has a more expensive dining room. Probably your Count (or Baron, etc) thinking about your Mayor (or Count, etc) I'm guessing. --[[User:N9103|Edward]] 11:18, 1 July 2008 (EDT)

== Complaining about job scarcity ==

What can I do to prevent this? It's irritating for my workers to complain. I like to make my dwarves haul various things to my stockpiles located everywhere. Do dwarves like working at where they work best at? Does sticking all my dwarves into the fortress during a seige cause this? I'm good to disable it somehow. I should probably stick this in the manager or mayor discussion as they handle the complaints. I could activate pump activating and stone detailing and stick some useless pumps and never ending tunnels and rooms that need smoothing in my fortress... I heard this is a major problem as it's difficult to know and find who wants to complain with all the interruptions. They also work outdoors which has space for my lovely stockpiles. Oh right and economy must also be a reason too...dwarves need to pay to eat and drink. -__- --[[User:Seaneat|Seaneat]] 19:25, 2 July 2008 (EDT)

:It's due to the economy starting up, yes.
:My recommendation? Lever-pulling. It's a paid job (2☼/pull) and can (relatively) rapidly accumulate wealth for your otherwise unemployed dwarves. I'd setup a dozen or more levers and set the building profile to have only your (semi-)dedicated haulers allowed. The big problem, is that hauling doesn't pay anything, despite being one of the most important jobs for productivity.--[[User:N9103|Edward]] 17:42, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

== Losing an annoying acquaintance? ==

I lost two dwarves to imps within the first year. The first one made my metalsmith very sad: "Lost a friend to tragedy recently." I was afraid he was going to go crazy on me he was blinking with every down arrow possible. Then, the ranger died... and now he is "happier" and "He has lost an annoying acquaintance to tragedy recently."

Can anyone confirm if the losing of an annoyance makes a dwarf happier? --[[User:Corc|Corc]] 00:29, 7 July 2008 (EDT)

40d:Magma

2008-06-21T20:19:03Z

Corc: plenty of people have noticed magma "flow up" from a magma pipe

Magma is red-hot molten rock present in [[volcano]]es, as well as magma pools and magma pipes. It serves as an energy source, powering [[magma forge]]s, [[magma glass furnace]]s and [[magma smelter]]s. It is extremely dangerous.

==Magma sources==

While in previous versions of Dwarf Fortress, every map was guaranteed to have magma, since v0.27.169.32a magma is now a feature of terrain and may or may not be present.

Magma occurs in three different features; Magma pools, Magma Pipes, and [[Volcano|Volcanoes]].

* A '''Magma Pool''' is a reservoir of magma that occupies only a few Z-Levels in the mountain, without reaching the surface. Magma Pools can be very small, and may have few suitable locations for buildings that rely on magma. Magma in these pools is limited, and pools will not refill with magma once emptied.

* A '''Magma Pipe''' starts at the lowest z-level of the map from an magma (or lava) flow and extend in a pipe shape upwards, sometimes reaching the surface but often not. Magma Pipes gradually refill with magma.

* A [[Volcano]] is similar to a magma pipe, but it has the advantage of being a geographical feature that is visible on the [[location]] screen. This means that it is a lot easier to find. However, it IS actually possible for a volcano that shows up on the "local" and region screen in the starting location chooser to be entirely underground - Although you could see it in the starting location chooser, it would not be visible from the surface once your dwarves have arrived at the fort's site.

== Finding magma ==

Volcanos are visible on the "local" screen in the starting location chooser. It is represented as a red ≈ mark (a double tilde) - essentially it looks like red water. Note that red ≈ marks in the "region" screen mean something different entirely (e.g. red sand).
If you are using a certain [[utility]], you can also see magma pools and magma pipes on the local screen in the embark menu.
After you have embarked for a place that has a volcano, and once your dwarves have arrived at their target destination, you should see a large red pool of lava on your map. If you don't, you should expect your volcano to be somewhere underground. You then have to use [[exploratory mining]] to find it.

While picking a starting location, the easiest place to look for magma is on or near a [[volcano]] (a red ^ mark in the "region" screen). There are often volcanic islands (easy to find, since they are the sole land in the middle of oceans), but since sea travel is not yet implemented, trade with other races may not be possible on such islands. Instead, find a volcano on land, and (optionally) start looking for a vent in nearby squares. "Nearby squares" can mean anything from literally on top of the volcano, to adjacent, to quite a long distance away indeed. The placement of magma seems to be related to the distance from volcanoes, but is still essentially random.

Magma vents occur exclusively in world map tiles that are primarily igneous extrusive. That is to say, if you select an entire tile on the embarkation screen and press F1 to highlight the most common terrain, the tile will only have magma if the top stone is dark gray, signifying igneous extrusive rock. Magma does not necessarily form in this geological zone/biome, rather anywhere in the tile. Even if magma is not evident on the surface, it's almost certain to be underground somewhere, though the chances of finding it without reveal.exe are still slim.

Much harder than simply finding a magma vent is finding a magma vent that is also near suitable terrain for building. Depending on your requirements - you may be looking for a source of running water, or a mountain for minerals, or a healthy tree population, a layer of [[flux]] for steel production or even all four - suitable building sites can be extremely scarce.

Since volcanoes show up on the region finder, and magma vents do not, you may find it easier to simply check all volcanoes on a map for suitability, and generate a new world if none are suitable, rather than scouring tile after tile for magma vents.

If you're willing to search exhaustively, you might want to consider finding magma vents that are not near volcanoes at all. Very occasionally, magma will be visible in the middle of forests, plains, or other terrain nowhere near a volcano or even mountains. There is no way to spot these on the region map, so you have to review the local maps. This can be done from DF, but since it involves a lot of scrolling and is very tedious, you can try exporting the local map of the world which can be much more quickly searched for the distinctive red ≈ symbol.

You can also occasionally find magma that does not extend all the way to the surface, and therefore is not visible on the local map. These are in fact much more numerous than surface-visible magma vents; however, they are almost impossible to find without cheating via one of the [[utilities]] like "reveal.exe", since unlike proper magma vents these smaller deposits must be almost literally mined into to see (you will get a warning about "warm stone" before you actually breach the deposit). These smaller magma deposits appear in the same places as normal magma vents - near volcanoes, or, failing that, near other known magma.

== Using magma ==

On a map with a magma vent, the magma will be clearly visible from every level ground and below, unless the map is in a Freezing area. In Freezing areas, the top few levels of the vent will have cooled to form an obsidian "cap". This should still be readily recognizable however, as it will comprise a circular area. The minerals directly adjacent to the magma vent will also be immediately visible, even at the lowest level of the map, which can give some hints about where to prospect for ores.

The vent has a similar, circular shape on each level. However, it is not identical from one level to the next; some levels will have a larger or somewhat misshapen circle of magma.

The primary use for magma is to power [[magma smelter]]s, [[magma glass furnace]]s and [[magma forge]]s. (There are other uses, including defense, [[obsidian]] production, and possibly even garbage disposal.) To build forges, etc. on magma, at least one of the external eight squares must be above a square of magma.

This can be done most easily by simply building on ground level. The magma is visible from ground level but is actually contained one level below ground level, just like any ground-level water source.

To build underground, you will need to dig at least one tile of a [[channel]] above the location you wish to build the smelter or forge. Underneath this channel there must be magma, either directly from the vent or channeled from the vent. You can simply build a tunnel straight into the magma, or use channels to tap into the magma on the level below safely - this latter is easier if there is more magma on the lower level than the level on which you wish to build. Tapping into magma directly is quite safe, provided that you are prepared for it. Magma is much slower than water, and can be stopped by a simple floodgate.

Volcanoes and magma tubes slowly replenish their supply of magma.

==Magma compared to water==

Magma is a chunky liquid. As such, it acts like water in certain circumstances, but acts differently in others.

===Similarities===

*Magma fills a tile and has seven possible depths.

*Magma flows outward and downward to expand into clear space.

*Screw pumps work in magma.

*Floodgates and pressure plates work in magma.

*Constructed walls of all kinds safely contain magma.

*Objects thrown into magma sink to the bottom.

*Magma that is only 1 deep "evaporates" over time.

===Differences===

*Magma is extremely hot, and capable of melting objects and constructions made of most materials (see [[Magma#Magma vs. Built Objects|Magma vs. Built Objects]]) and thus destroying them.

*Magma is never pressurized, it seeps out of holes slower than water and slow enough for any dwarves to outrun, unless they are the ones digging into it.

*Magma flows up from a direct vertical line from the bottom of a [[Magma#Magma sources|Magma Pipe]] only. Otherwise, its level may rise only by dripping more magma from above, and new magma may only distribute itself by moving down or to the sides, but never up.

*Magma reacts violently with water, releasing steam and, depending on the amount of magma, leaving behind tiles of solid obsidian which can be mined, smoothed or engraved like any natural tile.

*Magma is not a water source. Dwarves can't drink it or supply it to their wounded.

== Magma vs. Built Objects ==

Some objects that come in contact with magma will function fine, no matter what their material. Others will melt or cease to work properly unless they're made of [[magma-safe materials]].

* Workshops that are powered by magma need not be built of magma-safe materials to function.

* Constructed walls of any material, even those that are not "Magma-safe", will hold magma in without issues.

* Bridges that are built over magma may be constructed of any material. However, bridges that are submerged in magma must be constructed of a magma-safe material.

* Most machines must be made of [[magma-safe materials]] to function for more than a few minutes in magma. This includes Floodgates and Screw Pumps. Unsafe materials will function for a while, but then burn away.

* Stone mechanisms attached to a construction will melt in magma unless made of bauxite or raw adamantine, even if the construction itself is made of steel. In addition, if the mechanisms melt off of a floodgate, the floodgate will cease to be "constructed" and become an unplaced item again.{{version|0.27.176.38c}} At this point, the magma will flow over it freely.

== Temperature settings ==

Magma is almost harmless if temperature is disabled in the Dwarf Fortress init file. It can still trap and suffocate or simply starve your dwarves in some situations. It will not melt bridges, etc. constructed of non-[[magma-proof]] materials.

== Magma reactions ==

*Water: If magma happens to contact water it produces some steam and [[obsidian]]. This means there is no longer any chance of using a prolonged contact between the two to create a steam trap, though steam is also likely now not harmful. For those of you who aren't veteran dwarves, in the old 2D version, steam was deadly.
*[[Brook]]s: If magma comes in contact with a brook, it will not produce steam, but will turn the water tile below the brook to obsidian, and give the brook tile the appearance of a dried-up brook.
*Rocks: [[stone|Rock]]s left over from mining will melt if magma covers them.
*Speed: Magma moves relatively slowly. While it is nearly impossible to try to seal off water let loose, magma is slow enough for your dwarves to build a floodgate or door, or even wall off the flooding area, if you happen to let magma loose by mistake.
*Pressure: Magma does not transmit [[water pressure|pressure]].
: Observation. I have witnessed Magma "blurp" up through a channel, while working with a Volcano. In this particular case, a floor built in the volcano, 1 z level down. (This level was created by dropping water into the volcano from overhead, create a obsidian layer.)

[[Category:Physics]]

Command line

2008-06-18T21:41:55Z

Corc: added ".com" to web addresses

The ''command line'' is used for [[World generation | generating worlds]] quickly from the DOS prompt. Here is the text from command_line.txt:

See readme.txt for the license.
See release_notes.txt for information on handling saves and a brief writeup on the changes for this version.
See file_changes.txt for new init/interface information.
See command_line.txt for information on world generation from command lines.
Go to http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/faq.html for Frequently Asked Questions and their answers.
Go to http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/dev_now.html to see a full list of changes.

Dwarf Fortress Command Line Options

Dwarf Fortress currently offers one command line option, a world generator, suggested by genmac. You can use it as follows:

<pre>FORMAT: dwarfort.exe -gen <id number> <seed> <world gen param title>
EXAMPLE: dwarfort.exe -gen 1 3498 STANDARD
EXAMPLE: dwarfort.exe -gen 2 RANDOM CUSTOM6
</pre>

This will open a silent, introless dwarf fortress, generate a world with the given id number and seed, export the region files
and a picture, and finally quit. The window remains open so you can see what's going on. You can still abort world generation
while it is running. If you attempt to create a world number that already exists, it will abort immediately.

User talk:Savok

2008-06-08T03:35:31Z

Corc: /* Promotion */

Hey, I'm new to this Wiki and on [[Talk:Rock Chute]] you mentioned that the article violates some rules referred to as just letters. Where are those rules? I'd like to make sure my articles are compliant. --[[User:Xazak|Xazak]] 15:03, 3 November 2007 (EDT)

:[[DwarfFortressWiki:Community_Portal#We_are_doing_this.21_Let_us_do_it_right.|The Lettered Rules]] can be found at the top of the [[DwarfFortressWiki:Community_Portal|Community Portal]].
:If you think of a rule you'd like to add, feel free. It isn't complete. --[[User:Savok|Savok]] 15:08, 3 November 2007 (EDT)

----

ok so I read the notes you sent me on the dscussion pages, I only made those several edits... 
...because I did several previews and then clicked save "oops that didn't work", and re-saved the page (like this one :P ). Sorry for any inconveniance --[[User:Frostedfire|Frostedfire]] 23:02, 6 November 2007 (EST)

:That's just a generic message that I paste onto the user talk pages of new users who don't seem to have learned the unsaid conventions of this wiki yet. --[[User:Savok|Savok]] 23:34, 6 November 2007 (EST)
__NOTOC__
== Welcome template ==

I've tossed in a [[Template:Welcome|welcome template]] that I borrowed from elsewhere... you might find it useful for talk page welcomes (especially if things move). --[[User:Shagie|Shagie]] 13:22, 5 November 2007 (EST)

== G'Day ==

Thanks for the {{tl|welcome}}. If you don't want the text to change, use <nowiki>{{subst:welcome}}</nowiki> instead of <nowiki>{{welcome}}</nowiki>.[[User:GarrieIrons|GarrieIrons]] 04:07, 7 February 2008 (EST)

:I... do. --[[User:Savok|Savok]] 20:03, 7 February 2008 (EST)

== RE:N9103's page ==

Not really what I intended, since I took out all the interim stuff like descriptions. I intended for it to occupy minimal space on the page. On the other hand, I'm not sure if it'll work in that format or not, and was just going to test and see on my next install. Not worth undoing though. Thanks anyways, [[User:N9103|Edward]] 07:35, 20 March 2008 (EDT)

== Article requesting ==

Any idea how to request an article? I'm wondering why there's nothing about [insert small animal here] remains that I keep seeing in my refuse piles. Wondering if there's any use for them. --[[User:Geofferic|Geofferic]] 20:59, 27 March 2008 (EDT)

:I'd probably ask about it in a ''new section'', which you forgot to do here, at the [[DwarfFortressWiki talk:Community Portal|Community Portal talk page]]. --[[User:Savok|Savok]] 23:37, 27 March 2008 (EDT)

== {{k|v}} → {{k|p}} → {{k|z}} → {{k|Enter}} ==

{{Gametext|Vuntic has been happy lately. He has constructed a good image. He has mechanically processed new wiki dwarves recently. He has gotten a seven on the 2008 AIME. He has been unable to devote time to Dwarf Fortress.}}{{Gametext|Vuntic likes ice, clear glass, Dwarf Fortress, Taekwondo, computers, webcomics, and cats for their aloofness. When possible, he prefers to consume cold lemon-water, turkey stew, cabbage, and lemons. He absolutely detests all vermin, especially insects. He dislikes working outdoors but enjoys inclement weather. |#0f0}}
--[[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]]

:Ooh, nice. That's easier to use. --[[User:Savok|Savok]] 00:14, 29 March 2008 (EDT)

== Unsectioned comments ==

Sorry Savok, I sent that to the wrong page! --[[User:AlexFili|AlexFili]] 09:04, 3 June 2008 (EDT)

:No problem, we all were newbies once. Though, that post does remind me to add something: "If you put a comment at the bottom of a talk page with section headers, you've probably put it in a section. Don't put things in the wrong sections. If necessary, create a section." --[[User:Savok|Savok]] 09:12, 3 June 2008 (EDT)

::Happy to help! --[[User:AlexFili|AlexFili]] 09:18, 3 June 2008 (EDT)

== Question about population ==

I couldn't find any other place to ask this so I'll ask here. 
What do you think is the best number of population to have as the maximum? At the moment I have it set at 150. Is that a good maximum to have? --[[User:AlexFili|AlexFili]] 05:00, 4 June 2008 (EDT)

:You only need a maximum if you don't want to receive more dwarves. The most common reason for that is FPS. More dwarves lowers the speed at which the game runs. --[[User:Savok|Savok]] 11:26, 4 June 2008 (EDT)

== Promotion ==

You are now a Sysop! You now have access to our secret underground rail network, the Harem and you also get 10% off at John Deere Inc. --[[User:Senso|Senso]] 21:22, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

: Congrats! --[[User:Corc|Corc]] 23:35, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

Utility Talk:Tweak/Development

2008-05-28T16:55:11Z

Corc: /* addresses */

K, I got it to work, I did have to redo the reference to the DLL. The reveal example worked too, once I referenced Windows.Forms. Looks like a pretty nice setup, I applaud! :) --[[User:Corc|Corc]] 04:00, 10 May 2008 (EDT)

== module variables with forms ==

I'm mostly self taught so I most likely have bad habits in coding, so bare with me :)

I'd like to make a little form with options on it and then run code when certain buttons are clicked. I've got the form added to the project and couldn't quite figure out how to get a function from the Module class as an event for a button click without making the button public (in the form class) and adding it manually (in the module class) after I made a new instance of the form in the module run function. I also, wanted to store the memory/version/mode/etc arguments passed to the run function so I could later use them in other functions that would be called from the form according to options selected in that form. I tried to add private storage variables inside the class itself, but I don't know the constructors for the types to make a valid copy (after run finishes the private variables don't work).

Can only one module be used at a time, or is it possible to spawn a module and have it be an "info box" while other modules are free to be "run"? That's kinda what I'm getting at, I'd like to keep the connection to the memory/version/modulemode/etc stuff while the main program is running but not hog up the program.

Unfortunately, this is me learning C# at the same time as learning windows gui stuff. I've tried a little google searching and came up with mostly web development--so any links to useful examples/tutorials/refs would be awesome. As soon as I get to the bookstore, I'll see how the pricing on books for C# are :)--[[User:Corc|Corc]] 18:39, 12 May 2008 (EDT)

: Currently Tweak is not designed for having multiple modules running at once, since most of them currently suspend the game while it does its work to prevent conflicts. As for your form issues -- instantiate your main form in the Run function, and use form.ShowDialog() (something like that), this is how I do it. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 04:30, 13 May 2008 (EDT)

::Ah, maybe Show() and ShowDialog() behave differently, because I was setting it all up and the form would show up and I could do non-memory editing stuff. Thanks for the quick answer :) --[[User:Corc|Corc]] 14:30, 13 May 2008 (EDT)

== addresses ==

Is there a reference for the addresses available? Or how do I find the addresses? "map_data", "creature_body_part_health_vector_offset" ? I will compile a list if I can find them. --[[User:M2775|M2775]] 07:07, 28 May 2008 (EDT)

:There are xml files in a separate folder (for tweak itself) where you are able to define things for different versions of the game. It's best to check if the variable is available before using it though. Almost all the basic useful addresses and offsets are included in those files. --[[User:Corc|Corc]] 12:55, 28 May 2008 (EDT)

Utility Talk:Tweak/Development

2008-05-13T18:30:50Z

Corc: /* module variables with forms */

Utility Talk:Tweak/Development

2008-05-12T22:39:18Z

Corc: module variables with forms

User:Corc/EventIDs

2008-05-11T19:10:47Z

Corc:

This is mostly for me to work on during breaks: could be useful info later.

I'll probably make it multiple columns so it isn't just one long page :P

=Where they come from:=
All the IDs are from the .raw files and are in the order they appear in those files.

Here are the default ones...

=Gems (128)=
IDs <code>0x00</code> -> <code>0x7E</code>

{| border="1" cellpadding="2" width="25%"
! width="5%" | ID
! width="10%" | Name
! width="10%" | Color

|-
| <code>0x00</code>
| Onyx
| Black

|-
| <code>0x01</code>
| Morion
| Black
|-
| <code>0x02</code>
| Schorl
| Black
|-
| <code>0x03</code>
| Lace Agate
| Blue
|-
| <code>0x04</code>
| Blue Jade
| Blue
|-
| <code>0x05</code>
| Lapis Lazuli
| Blue
|-
| <code>0x06</code>
| Prase
| Dull Green
|-
| <code>0x07</code>
| Prase Opal
| Dull Green
|-
| <code>0x08</code>
| Bloodstone
| Dark Red
|-
| <code>0x09</code>
| Moss Agate
| Dull Green
|-
| <code>0x0A</code>
| Moss Opal
| Dull Green
|-
| <code>0x0B</code>
| Variscite
| Dull Green
|-
| <code>0x0C</code>
| Chrysoprase
| Bright Green
|-
| <code>0x0D</code>
| Chrysocolla
| Bright Blue
|-
| <code>0x0E</code>
| Sard
| Dark Red
|-
| <code>0x0F</code>
| Carnelian
| Dark Red
|-
| <code>0x10</code>
| Banded Agate
| Dark Red
|-
| <code>0x11</code>
| Sardonyx
| Dark Red
|-
| <code>0x12</code>
| Cherry Opal
| Bright Red
|-
| <code>0x13</code>
| Lavendar Jade
| Purple
|-
| <code>0x14</code>
| Pink Jade
| Bright Purple
|-
| <code>0x15</code>
| Tube Agate
| Dark Orange
|}

= Stone Layers (27) =
IDs <code>0x7F</code> -> <code>0x98</code>
= Stone Mineral (56) =
IDs <code>0x99</code> -> <code>0xD0</code>
= Soils (21) =
IDs <code>0xD2</code> -> <code>0xE5</code>
= Misc =
{| border="1" cellpadding="2" width="25%"
! width="5%" | ID
! width="10%" | Name
! width="10%" | Color
|-
| <code>0xD1</code>
| Adamantine
| Bright Blue
|-
| <code>0xE6+</code>
| Unused/Default Rock
| Grey
|}

Utility Talk:Tweak

2008-05-11T08:04:54Z

Corc: /* Reveal */

Utility Talk:Tweak

2008-05-11T08:04:26Z

Corc: Reveal

User:Corc/EventIDs

2008-05-11T07:37:09Z

Corc:

This is mostly for me to work on during breaks: could be useful info later.

I'll probably make it multiple columns so it isn't just one long page :P

=Gems:=
IDs <code>0x00</code> -> <code>0x7E</code>

{| border="1" cellpadding="2" width="25%"
! width="5%" | ID
! width="10%" | Name
! width="10%" | Color

|-
| <code>0x00</code>
| Onyx
| Black

|-
| <code>0x01</code>
| Morion
| Black
|-
| <code>0x02</code>
| Schorl
| Black
|-
| <code>0x03</code>
| Lace Agate
| Blue
|-
| <code>0x04</code>
| Blue Jade
| Blue
|-
| <code>0x05</code>
| Lapis Lazuli
| Blue
|-
| <code>0x06</code>
| Prase
| Dull Green
|-
| <code>0x07</code>
| Prase Opal
| Dull Green
|-
| <code>0x08</code>
| Bloodstone
| Dark Red
|-
| <code>0x09</code>
| Moss Agate
| Dull Green
|-
| <code>0x0A</code>
| Moss Opal
| Dull Green
|-
| <code>0x0B</code>
| Variscite
| Dull Green
|-
| <code>0x0C</code>
| Chrysoprase
| Bright Green
|-
| <code>0x0D</code>
| Chrysocolla
| Bright Blue
|-
| <code>0x0E</code>
| Sard
| Dark Red
|-
| <code>0x0F</code>
| Carnelian
| Dark Red
|-
| <code>0x10</code>
| Banded Agate
| Dark Red
|-
| <code>0x11</code>
| Sardonyx
| Dark Red
|-
| <code>0x12</code>
| Cherry Opal
| Bright Red
|-
| <code>0x13</code>
| Lavendar Jade
| Purple
|-
| <code>0x14</code>
| Pink Jade
| Bright Purple
|-
| <code>0x15</code>
| Tube Agate
| Dark Orange
|}

= Stone (Non-economical) =
= Stone (Economical) =
= Ores =
= Clay =
= Sand =
= Misc =
{| border="1" cellpadding="2" width="25%"
! width="5%" | ID
! width="10%" | Name
! width="10%" | Color
|-
| <code>0xD1</code>
| Adamantine
| Bright Blue
|}

User:Corc/EventIDs

2008-05-11T07:34:48Z

Corc: New page: This is mostly for me to work on during breaks: could be useful info later. I'll probably make it multiple columns so it isn't just one long page :P =Gems:= IDs <code>0x00</code> -> <cod...

User:Corc

2008-05-11T07:17:32Z

Corc:

Howdy, here is my page :)

I've never done any wiki work before and figured I might be able to add to this group of dwarf lovers :P

I'm going to add stuff here until I figure out where to put them.

= Rick's Tweak Uses =

I really like [[User:Rick/Tweak/Tile_Edit|Rick's Tweak util]] and use it to mess with my dwarves while I'm bored.

==Tileedit ==

===Add a Chasm===

On the General tab, change Type to 23 00 then click OK to write this tile information to Dwarf Fortress.

If done on the lowest z-level, it will act like any normal chasm minus the creatures.

If done on any other level, the chasm still acts like a chasm and destroys anything that enters it. But, it also does some unknown things to the tiles below it: I changed a tile in the middle of a river and all the tiles below it showed as outside, I also changed a tile in the middle of my fort (with rooms below and above the tile) and nothing out of the ordinary happened.
:actually I just tried it this time with a river right above the fort and the river flooded the fort... so it could be just like a channel but destroys objects if they pass to the last floor.

A quick fix to an accidental flood could be to make a temporary chasm at the lowest point of the flood to clean up the unwanted water faster. You'd also want to block the source, but you don't need a chasm for that.

===Add a Waterfall===

On the General tab, change Type to 59 00 then click OK to write this tile information to Dwarf Fortress.

This can be done anywhere, and produces a nice amount of mist along with the magical production of free water.

===Other Things===

I've tried and failed at making a river that flows from nowhere--which is how I came to make the waterfall.

I still don't know what the unknown flag (27) in the Designation tab is for--some of the waterfalls I found had that flag yet lost it when I copied all the info into a new tile.

= Memory Hacks =

My foolings around with the memory stuff:

Map blocks have an event vector (per other's findings) and that vector is a list of addresses to events. When the "Type" of the tile is "B8 01" or 184, then you've got an event tile--to find out what it is you have to look at the events and their masks.

<pre>
Vector stuff:
... (Start mem) (End mem) (end alloc mem) FFFF
@ Vector Start
(Event mem 1) (Event mem 2) ...
@ Event
(ID) (mask...) (flags)
</pre>

basic event type IDs:
<pre>00 -> 7E Gems
7F -> 98 Rocks (non-eco)
99 -> A9 Ore (+dye stuff)
AA -> D0 Rocks (eco)
D1 Adamantine
D2 -> DC Clays
DD -> E5 Sand
E6 -> FF Undefined or "Rock"</pre>

[[User:Corc/EventIDs|list of known "events"]]

User:Corc

2008-05-11T07:15:33Z

Corc:

User:Corc

2008-05-11T03:13:31Z

Corc:

Howdy, here is my page :)

I've never done any wiki work before and figured I might be able to add to this group of dwarf lovers :P

I'm going to add stuff here until I figure out where to put them.

= Rick's Tweak Uses =

I really like [[User:Rick/Tweak/Tile_Edit|Rick's Tweak util]] and use it to mess with my dwarves while I'm bored.

==Tileedit ==

===Add a Chasm===

On the General tab, change Type to 23 00 then click OK to write this tile information to Dwarf Fortress.

If done on the lowest z-level, it will act like any normal chasm minus the creatures.

If done on any other level, the chasm still acts like a chasm and destroys anything that enters it. But, it also does some unknown things to the tiles below it: I changed a tile in the middle of a river and all the tiles below it showed as outside, I also changed a tile in the middle of my fort (with rooms below and above the tile) and nothing out of the ordinary happened.
:actually I just tried it this time with a river right above the fort and the river flooded the fort... so it could be just like a channel but destroys objects if they pass to the last floor.

A quick fix to an accidental flood could be to make a temporary chasm at the lowest point of the flood to clean up the unwanted water faster. You'd also want to block the source, but you don't need a chasm for that.

===Add a Waterfall===

On the General tab, change Type to 59 00 then click OK to write this tile information to Dwarf Fortress.

This can be done anywhere, and produces a nice amount of mist along with the magical production of free water.

===Other Things===

I've tried and failed at making a river that flows from nowhere--which is how I came to make the waterfall.

I still don't know what the unknown flag (27) in the Designation tab is for--some of the waterfalls I found had that flag yet lost it when I copied all the info into a new tile.

= Memory Hacks =

My foolings around with the memory stuff:

Map blocks have an event vector (per other's findings) and that vector is a list of addresses to events.

<pre>
Vector stuff:
... (Start mem) (End mem) (end alloc mem) FFFF
@ Vector Start
(Event mem 1) (Event mem 2) ...
@ Event
(ID) (mask...) (flags)
</pre>

basic event type IDs:
<pre>00 -> 7E Gems
7F -> 98 Rocks (non-eco)
99 -> A9 Ore (+dye stuff)
AA -> D0 Rocks (eco)
D1 Adamantine
D2 -> DC Clays
DD -> E5 Sand
E6 -> FF Undefined or "Rock"</pre>

User:Corc

2008-05-11T02:51:36Z

Corc:

Howdy, here is my page :)

I've never done any wiki work before and figured I might be able to add to this group of dwarf lovers :P

I'm going to add stuff here until I figure out where to put them.

= Rick's Tweak Uses =

I really like [[User:Rick/Tweak/Tile_Edit|Rick's Tweak util]] and use it to mess with my dwarves while I'm bored.

==Tileedit ==

===Add a Chasm===

On the General tab, change Type to 23 00 then click OK to write this tile information to Dwarf Fortress.

If done on the lowest z-level, it will act like any normal chasm minus the creatures.

If done on any other level, the chasm still acts like a chasm and destroys anything that enters it. But, it also does some unknown things to the tiles below it: I changed a tile in the middle of a river and all the tiles below it showed as outside, I also changed a tile in the middle of my fort (with rooms below and above the tile) and nothing out of the ordinary happened.
:actually I just tried it this time with a river right above the fort and the river flooded the fort... so it could be just like a channel but destroys objects if they pass to the last floor.

A quick fix to an accidental flood could be to make a temporary chasm at the lowest point of the flood to clean up the unwanted water faster. You'd also want to block the source, but you don't need a chasm for that.

===Add a Waterfall===

On the General tab, change Type to 59 00 then click OK to write this tile information to Dwarf Fortress.

This can be done anywhere, and produces a nice amount of mist along with the magical production of free water.

===Other Things===

I've tried and failed at making a river that flows from nowhere--which is how I came to make the waterfall.

I still don't know what the unknown flag (27) in the Designation tab is for--some of the waterfalls I found had that flag yet lost it when I copied all the info into a new tile.

= Memory Hacks =

My foolings around with the memory stuff:

basic event type ids:
<pre>00 -> 7E Gems
7F -> 98 Rocks (non-eco)
99 -> A9 Ore (+dye stuff)
AA -> D0 Rocks (eco)
D1 Adamantine
D2 -> DC Clays
DD -> E5 Sand
E6 -> FF Undefined or "Rock"</pre>

Utility Talk:Tweak/Development

2008-05-10T08:00:58Z

Corc:

Utility Talk:Tweak/Development

2008-05-10T06:25:17Z

Corc: New page: Awesome, I've actually been waiting all week for a message from my watchlist to tell me you added something... guess I shouldn't rely on that :/ Just letting you know, I'm looking into th...

Awesome, I've actually been waiting all week for a message from my watchlist to tell me you added something... guess I shouldn't rely on that :/ Just letting you know, I'm looking into this stuff.
--[[User:Corc|Corc]] 02:25, 10 May 2008 (EDT)

Utility Talk:Tweak/Tile Edit

2008-05-07T23:51:22Z

Corc: /* more operations */

Um, where can we get Tile Edit? --[[User:Savok|Savok]] 12:26, 24 March 2008 (EDT)

:It comes prepackaged with Tweak. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 13:36, 24 March 2008 (EDT)

::Ah. There should be a note to that effect somewhere to prevent confusion; if it confused me, it will probably confuse others. --[[User:Savok|Savok]] 17:31, 24 March 2008 (EDT)

:::The first line of the page clearly mentions that it is for Tweak? —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 19:28, 24 March 2008 (EDT)

::::Of course it is '''for''' Tweak; that is, I believe, obvious to anyone intelligent enough to play DF.
::::But nowhere did I find (though it might very well exist - I'm known to make really stupid errors like that) something that says that it is '''with''' Tweak.
::::Also, the logic that "someone who can't find it will just find it when they open Tweak" doesn't work, in case any of you are thinking that, since some of us won't look in Tweak till they know they have something to use in it (i.e. Tile Edit). --[[User:Savok|Savok]] 23:01, 24 March 2008 (EDT)

:::::I see your point. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 23:56, 24 March 2008 (EDT)

This may be mere stupidity on my part, but is it possible using Tile Edit to change, for example, a tile into a gem wall or ore wall of specific type?

:At this point, not really. When more of the flags are mapped/figured out, I imagine it would be possible to bridge that gap. IIRC, an older tool that's not been updated in ages (and no longer even listed on the Utils page) used to be able to copy the contents of one tile and place them in a new one, to include composition of the tile (stone, gem, soil, etc.) Perhaps even if the current build of TileEdit could never support that function, perhaps Rick would see to it to eventually incorporate that kind of function in the future? --[[User:N9103|Edward]] 06:34, 28 April 2008 (EDT)

== more operations ==

Howdy, I often find the search for chasms and underground rivers annoying, so being able to make one with this tool is pretty sweet. I searched the Bay12 forums and people seemed to think it wasn't possible with the tool... so I tinkered around. It's actually not that hard, you can just change the Type on the first tab to "23 00" and you've got a full blown chasm. Remember to put it on a tile with a solid space below it or it'll just act like a channeled tile (i.e. letting any water/magma flow into your fort). To go along with the chasm, I made a water source from a waterfall tile and created a small one tile wide river network for a system of wells on the upper levels. The waterfall tile type is "59 00" and unlike a brook or river tile it'll produce water from nothing along with mist.
--[[User:Corc|Corc]] 15:00, 29 April 2008 (EDT)

Hey, by putting "08 01" in Type will also allow you to creat Magma/Lava Flows, which should create magma/lave...
So far I've placed my own, yet nothing seems to be appearing from it, yet. I've added 7/7 Lava to it and built a wall to let it flow, but still nothing. --[[User:SP2|SP2]] 19:12, 7 May 2008 (EDT)

:Creating a magma flow would be pretty cool, maybe next time I get a chance I should see if setting the "is lava" flag to a waterfall and see if it creates a lavafall :) I was having trouble with water flow and resorted to a waterfall for a renewing source of water, so I dunno how to combat the "flow" tiles not "flowing". Also, should I add to the real page the chasm/waterfall stuff or wait for Rick to?
:--[[User:Corc|Corc]] 19:51, 7 May 2008 (EDT)

Utility Talk:Tweak/Tile Edit

2008-04-29T19:00:41Z

Corc: more operations

Utility Talk:Tweak

2008-04-29T03:57:41Z

Corc: /* Developer page */

User:Corc

2008-04-29T01:39:52Z

Corc: /* Add a Chasm */

User talk:Corc

2008-04-28T23:31:57Z

Corc: /* Tile Edit Experiments */

==Tile Edit Experiments==
Good work!
Be sure to share your discoveries with the rest of the TileEdit group on Rick's page for it, once you've got it well defined. (looks like it should be good enough as is infact)
I'd always wanted to both make a river, and get rid of one with a chasm, but hadn't quite figured out how to do it yet.
Suppose it doesn't help that I prefer maps *without* chasms period -_-; --[[User:N9103|Edward]] 19:05, 28 April 2008 (EDT)

:yeah, I wasn't sure about the etiquette for adding to someone else's page yet --[[User:Corc|Corc]] 19:31, 28 April 2008 (EDT)

==Welcome!==
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:OKy doke, I'll keep this here so I can come back to it. I've never done anything on a wiki before :P --[[User:Corc|Corc]] 13:30, 28 April 2008 (EDT)

User:Corc

2008-04-28T18:21:08Z

Corc:

User:Corc

2008-04-28T17:59:33Z

Corc: New page: Howdy, here is my page :) I've never done any wiki work before and figured I might be able to add to this group of dwarf lovers :P

Howdy, here is my page :)

I've never done any wiki work before and figured I might be able to add to this group of dwarf lovers :P

User talk:Corc

2008-04-28T17:30:31Z

Corc: /* Welcome! */

==Welcome!==
Welcome to this wiki! Dwarf Fortress rapidly becomes more complicated, and we're always glad to have new writers. 
Since we prefer that you try to follow our wiki's standards, we've made a list of basic guidelines. Note that this is an impersonal template, so some may not apply to you.
* To let us know who you are, please sign your posts on discussion pages by typing <code><nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki></code> after your posts. This can also be inserted with the [[Image:Button sig756222.png]] button if JavaScript is enabled.
* Avoid making many small edits to a page. Instead, try to make one large edit. This makes the history of the page a lot easier to read.
* When making comments on a talk page, use one more colon before each line in your comment than was used in the comment you reply to. Put an empty line between comments by different users but do not use blank lines inside of a comment. If your comment has no indents, use <code><nowiki> </nowiki></code> after each line.
* Never, ever, put a question mark in the title of a page. This is not an undoable mistake. The rule list elaborates.
* Most importantly, [[DwarfFortressWiki:Community_Portal#We_are_doing_this.21_Let_us_do_it_right.|read and follow the rules.]] Really. Read them.
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Just a hello, and a particular pointer to the first point ;-)
--[[User:N9103|Edward]] 06:08, 28 April 2008 (EDT)
:OKy doke, I'll keep this here so I can come back to it. I've never done anything on a wiki before :P --[[User:Corc|Corc]] 13:30, 28 April 2008 (EDT)

Utility Talk:Tweak

2008-04-26T22:25:36Z

Corc: Developer page