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		<title>40d:Strange mood</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;BurnedToast: changed false info about artifact population requirements&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Periodically, individual dwarves are struck with an idea for a [[legendary artifact]] and enter a '''strange mood'''.  Any dwarf which enters a strange mood will stop whatever they are doing and pursue the construction of this artifact to the exclusion of all else.  They will not stop to eat, drink, sleep, or even run away from dangerous creatures.  If they do not manage to begin construction of the artifact within a handful of months, they will go [[Strange mood#Failure|insane]] and die soon afterward. &lt;br /&gt;
==Overview==&lt;br /&gt;
The entire process can be summarised as follows:&lt;br /&gt;
# Strange moods can only occur when the below necessary [[#Conditions|conditions]] are met.&lt;br /&gt;
# The game will pause, center on a dwarf, and announce that the dwarf has entered one of five different types of strange mood.  The [[#Types|types of mood]] are listed below.  While in a mood, a dwarf will display a blinking exclamation point (see [[status icons]]).&lt;br /&gt;
# The dwarf will claim a workshop, kick out any dwarf who was using it, and render it unusable until the mood has been resolved. If a moody dwarf does not claim a workshop, it is because the appropriate workshop does not exist.  See [[#Skills and workshops|skills and workshops]] below to determine which workshop(s) might be required.&lt;br /&gt;
# After claiming a workshop, the dwarf will set about collecting the required materials for their artifact.  If the dwarf remains idle inside the workshop, it's because they cannot find the right material. Reference the [[#Demands|demands]] section to determine what may be required.&lt;br /&gt;
# Once all materials have been gathered, the game will once again pause and center, and the moody dwarf will begin construction.  Upon completion the dwarf will gain a legendary skill (unless the mood type is [[#Possessed|possessed]]).  See the [[#Skills and workshops|skills and workshops]] for information on which skills can be gained, or the [[#Artifacts created|artifacts created]] section for more details on the artifacts themselves.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Conditions ==&lt;br /&gt;
Strange moods can only occur when there is no currently active strange mood, there are eligible dwarves, you have had a population higher then 20 at some point and the maximum number of artifacts is not met.  If all three of these conditions are true, the game may trigger a strange mood according to the frequency below.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Eligibility ===&lt;br /&gt;
Military and civilian dwarves, and children, may enter strange moods regardless of what skills they have.  Dwarves who have created an artifact are not eligible to create another, and since every mood ends in either death or an artifact, every dwarf may enter at most one mood.  Dwarves who have obtained one or more legendary skills without creating artifacts may enter strange moods. Appointed [[nobles]] may create artifacts, but immigrated nobles may not{{verify}}.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Maximum number of artifacts ===&lt;br /&gt;
The maximum number of artifacts in any one fortress is limited by the lower of:&lt;br /&gt;
* The number of items created divided by 200&lt;br /&gt;
* The number of revealed [[subterranean]] tiles divided by 2308 (this is an area equivalent to a 48x48 square).&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Frequency ===&lt;br /&gt;
When a fortress is started, an internal counter is set to 1000.  Around 11 or 12 times per day, this counter is decremented by 1.  When the counter would ordinarily be decremented when it has already reached zero, there is a 1 in 500 chance that a strange mood will strike.  This means there is approximately a 2.7% chance of a strange mood per day, and a 48.97% chance of a strange mood per month, when all conditions are met.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Types ==&lt;br /&gt;
The first message in the following sections is how the mood is announced; the second message appears in the dwarf's profile when he or she is viewed with the {{K|v}} key.  All moody dwarves will have &amp;quot;Strange Mood&amp;quot; listed as their active task.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Fey ===&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Taken by a fey mood!''&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Has the aspect of one fey!''&lt;br /&gt;
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This is the most basic strange mood.  Fey dwarves will clearly state their demands when the workshop they are in is examined.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Secretive ===&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Withdraws from society...''&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Peculiarly secretive...''&lt;br /&gt;
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Secretive moods are the same as fey moods, except a secretive dwarf will sketch pictures of their required materials instead of clearly stating their demands.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Possessed ===&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Has been possessed!''&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Possessed by unknown forces!''&lt;br /&gt;
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Possessed dwarves have cryptic material requests, and have the unfortunate distinction of not receiving any experience upon successful construction of an artifact.  It is unknown if controllable circumstances lead to a possessed mood instead of one of the more desirable fey or secretive moods.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Fell ===&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Looses a roaring laughter, fell and terrible!''&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Has a horrible fell look!''&lt;br /&gt;
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A dwarf that goes into a fell mood will always take over a [[butcher's shop]] or a [[tanner's shop]]. The dwarf will then ''murder'' the nearest dwarf, drag the corpse into the shop and make some sort of object out of dwarf [[leather]] or [[bone]]. Once the artifact is completed, the fell dwarf will become a legendary [[bone carver]] or [[leatherworker]].  Strangely, none of the other dwarves seem to mind the murder.  Only unhappy dwarves may enter a fell mood.&lt;br /&gt;
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Aside from the potential loss of an important dwarf in the wrong place at the wrong time, there doesn't seem to be any downside to a fell mood. The end result is always an artifact and a legendary craftsdwarf. Since the only ingredient used (a dwarf) is available in abundance, a fell mood will only fail if the fell dwarf is completely isolated from other dwarves, or if the proper workshop does not exist.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Macabre ===&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Begins to stalk and brood...''&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Brooding darkly...''&lt;br /&gt;
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Macabre moods are similar to fell moods, but the dwarf will not murder a fellow dwarf.  A macabre dwarf may require dwarf bones, skulls, and chunks/remains; if you do not happen to have any, you will have to &amp;quot;make&amp;quot; some, or let the moody dwarf go insane.  Like fell moods, only unhappy dwarves can enter macabre moods.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Skills and workshops ==&lt;br /&gt;
{| class=&amp;quot;wikitable&amp;quot; cellpadding=&amp;quot;4&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;border:1px solid black;border-collapse:collapse;text-align:left;float:right;margin:0 0 20px 30px;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! colspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background-color:#eee;border-bottom:1px solid black;text-align:center;&amp;quot; | Artifact Skill Rewards&lt;br /&gt;
|- &lt;br /&gt;
! Highest skill&lt;br /&gt;
! Workshop used&lt;br /&gt;
|- style=&amp;quot;border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Armorsmith]]&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Magma forge]] or [[Metalsmith's forge]]&lt;br /&gt;
|- style=&amp;quot;border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Bonecarver]]&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Craftdwarf's workshop]]&lt;br /&gt;
|- style=&amp;quot;border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Bowyer]]&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Bowyer's workshop]]&lt;br /&gt;
|- style=&amp;quot;border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Carpenter]]&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Carpenter's workshop]]&lt;br /&gt;
|- style=&amp;quot;border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Clothier]]&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Clothier's shop]]&lt;br /&gt;
|- style=&amp;quot;border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Engraver]]&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Craftdwarf's workshop]] or [[Mason's workshop]]&lt;br /&gt;
|- style=&amp;quot;border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Furnace operator]]&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Magma forge]] or [[Metalsmith's forge]]&lt;br /&gt;
|- style=&amp;quot;border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Gem cutter]]&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Jeweler's workshop]]&lt;br /&gt;
|- style=&amp;quot;border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Gem setter]]&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Jeweler's workshop]]&lt;br /&gt;
|- style=&amp;quot;border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Glassmaker]]&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Glass furnace]] or [[Magma glass furnace]]&lt;br /&gt;
|- style=&amp;quot;border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Leatherworker]]&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Leatherworks]]&lt;br /&gt;
|- style=&amp;quot;border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Mason]]&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Mason's workshop]]&lt;br /&gt;
|- style=&amp;quot;border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Mechanic]]&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Mechanic's workshop]]&lt;br /&gt;
|- style=&amp;quot;border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Metal crafter]]&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Magma forge]] or [[Metalsmith's forge]]&lt;br /&gt;
|- style=&amp;quot;border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Metalsmith (skill)|Metalsmith]]&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Magma forge]] or [[Metalsmith's forge]]&lt;br /&gt;
|- style=&amp;quot;border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Miner]]&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Craftdwarf's workshop]] or [[Mason's workshop]]&lt;br /&gt;
|- style=&amp;quot;border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Stone crafter]]&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Craftdwarf's workshop]]&lt;br /&gt;
|- style=&amp;quot;border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Tanner]]&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Tanner's shop]] or [[Leather works]]&lt;br /&gt;
|- style=&amp;quot;border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Weaponsmith]]&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Magma forge]] or [[Metalsmith's forge]]&lt;br /&gt;
|- style=&amp;quot;border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Weaver]]&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Clothier's shop]]&lt;br /&gt;
|- style=&amp;quot;border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Wood burner]]&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Craftdwarf's workshop]]&lt;br /&gt;
|- style=&amp;quot;border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Wood crafter]]&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Craftdwarf's workshop]]&lt;br /&gt;
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A dwarf will claim a workshop according to their highest applicable skill, and upon completion of the artifact, gain 20,000 experience in that skill (excepting possessed dwarves). This will give the dwarf a legendary-level skill and a number of attribute gains.  The table to the right describes all applicable skills and their potential workshop requirements. When multiple workshops are listed, the dwarf may require one or the other, so ensure both are available, if possible. (i.e. if you have a magma forge, you may have to build a regular forge for him). If a dwarf does not possess one of the listed skills, they will take over a [[craftdwarf's workshop]] and gain one of the [[bonecarver]], [[stone crafter]], or [[wood crafter]] skills.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Skills which do not produce artifacts:&lt;br /&gt;
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{|&lt;br /&gt;
|- style=&amp;quot;vertical-align:top;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| style=&amp;quot;padding-right:30px;&amp;quot; |&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Animal caretaker]]{{Verify}}&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Animal dissector]]{{Verify}}&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Animal trainer]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Brewer]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Butcher]]{{Verify}}&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Cheese maker]]{{Verify}}&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Cook]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Dyer]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Fish cleaner]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Fish dissector]]{{Verify}}&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Fisherdwarf]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Grower]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Herbalist]]{{Verify}}&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Lye maker]]{{Verify}}&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Milker]]{{Verify}}&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Miller]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Potash maker]]{{Verify}}&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Pump operator]]{{Verify}}&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Siege engineer]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Siege operator]]{{Verify}}&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Soaper]]{{Verify}}&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Thresher]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Trapper]]{{Verify}}&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Wood Cutter]]&lt;br /&gt;
* All [[military]] skills&lt;br /&gt;
* All [[social skills]]&lt;br /&gt;
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This fact can be utilized to maximize the possibility of getting a dwarf with a legendary skill you want: where possible, make sure each dwarf's highest skill is one of those you want.  Have all your peasants, growers, soldiers (you will have to temporarily deactivate them from the military), and other dwarves without skills do a tiny bit of work in the skill(s) you most want (Armorsmith is possibly the most-desired legendary skill); if a &amp;quot;dabbling&amp;quot; skill is the highest they have, that is the skill that will be used.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;br style=&amp;quot;clear:both;&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Demands ==&lt;br /&gt;
Once a workshop is claimed, the dwarf will begin collecting materials.  Each artifact will require between one and ten materials to complete.  If the moody dwarf remains idle, then the necessary materials are not available.  [[Forbidden]] items must be reclaimed ({{K|d}} - {{K|b}} - {{K|c}}) before they may be used, but moody dwarves will ignore settings regarding [[economic stone]]. Press {{K|q}} and highlight the workshop to receive a series of clues about what the dwarf needs.  Hints that stay active for longer than about 2 seconds mean multiple pieces of that material will be required. Materials will always be fetched in order, so if at least one item has already been retrieved (the items will show up with &amp;quot;TSK&amp;quot; next to them when the workshop is viewed with the {{K|t}} context menu), it will usually be possible to tell what item is required next.&lt;br /&gt;
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If a dwarf has a personality preference for a specific material, such as Bismuth or Steel, then that specific sub type of material may be required{{Verify}}, such as a [[diorite]] [[stone]], [[bronze]] [[bar]]s, or a specific type of raw [[gem]].  For this reason, it is usually a good idea to keep as many types of material on hand as possible, including raw and cut gems and the three different kinds of glass.&lt;br /&gt;
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The various demands are translated here:&lt;br /&gt;
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{| class=&amp;quot;wikitable&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;text-align:left;width:90%;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! Material&lt;br /&gt;
! Fey&lt;br /&gt;
! Secretive&lt;br /&gt;
! Possessed&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
| &amp;lt;dwarf&amp;gt; screams &amp;quot;I must have &amp;lt;demand&amp;gt;!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| &amp;lt;dwarf&amp;gt; sketches pictures of &amp;lt;demand&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
| &amp;lt;dwarf&amp;gt; mutters &amp;quot;&amp;lt;artifact&amp;gt; needs &amp;lt;demand&amp;gt;...&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Stone]]&lt;br /&gt;
| rock{{verify}}&lt;br /&gt;
| a quarry&lt;br /&gt;
| stone... rock&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Stone [[block]]&lt;br /&gt;
| rock blocks&lt;br /&gt;
| square blocks&lt;br /&gt;
| blocks... bricks&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Wood]]&lt;br /&gt;
| wood logs&lt;br /&gt;
| a forest&lt;br /&gt;
| tree... life&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Metal [[bar]]&lt;br /&gt;
| metal bars&lt;br /&gt;
| shining bars of metal&lt;br /&gt;
| bars... metal&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Gem]]s (cut)&lt;br /&gt;
| cut gems&lt;br /&gt;
| cut gems&lt;br /&gt;
| gems... shining&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Gem]]s (raw)&lt;br /&gt;
| rough gems&lt;br /&gt;
| rough gems&lt;br /&gt;
| rough... color&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Glass]] (green)&lt;br /&gt;
| raw green glass&lt;br /&gt;
| glass&lt;br /&gt;
| raw... green&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Glass]] (clear)&lt;br /&gt;
| ?&lt;br /&gt;
| glass and burning wood&lt;br /&gt;
| raw... clear&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Glass]] (crystal)&lt;br /&gt;
| ?&lt;br /&gt;
| rough gems and glass&lt;br /&gt;
| raw... crystal&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Bone]]&lt;br /&gt;
| bones&lt;br /&gt;
| skeletons&lt;br /&gt;
| bones... yes&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Shell]]&lt;br /&gt;
| shells&lt;br /&gt;
| a shell&lt;br /&gt;
| a shell...&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Leather]]&lt;br /&gt;
| tanned hides&lt;br /&gt;
| stacked leather&lt;br /&gt;
| leather... skin&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Cloth]] (plant)&lt;br /&gt;
| plant fiber cloth&lt;br /&gt;
| stacked cloth&lt;br /&gt;
| cloth... thread&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Cloth]] (silk)&lt;br /&gt;
| silk cloth&lt;br /&gt;
| stacked cloth&lt;br /&gt;
| cloth... thread&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Artifacts created ==&lt;br /&gt;
The type of artifact created will depend on the dwarf's highest skill. Masons will always create some kind of stone object, usually furniture; Bone Carvers, a bone or shell object; Carpenters, a wood object, etc. Miners and engravers will usually turn out a stone craft or piece of furniture; furnace operators, a metal craft or piece of furniture; Weavers, an article of clothing. The precise type of craft created is usually somewhat random but if a dwarf has a personality preference for a particular thing, such as gauntlets or crossbows, and that thing is an available choice given the dwarf's profession, he will generally create an object of that type.&lt;br /&gt;
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The first object grabbed by the dwarf will be the &amp;quot;primary&amp;quot; substance; all other materials will be used to decorate the artifact. If a dwarf grabs onyx and makes a bed, for instance, it will be an &amp;quot;onyx bed&amp;quot;, but an artifact can potentially be composed of bone, cloth, gems, leather, metal, shell, stone, and wood all at once.  In some cases, glass makers will actually grab the nearest rough gem instead of a piece of raw glass, leading to such odd constructions as a [[Moss agate]] [[coffer]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Once created, the [[artifact]] will be available for use just like a normal item of its type.  Artifact furniture is useful for high value [[noble]] rooms, and weapons can be used to great effect in combat.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Failure ==&lt;br /&gt;
If you can't provide all the required items within a couple of months, the dwarf will go insane and cancel the artifact.  This [[insanity]] can take several forms:&lt;br /&gt;
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* Become melancholy. The dwarf will either refuse to eat or drink until dead, or drown themselves at some point.  They may also hurl themselves into the [[river]], [[chasm]], or [[magma]] immediately.&lt;br /&gt;
* Become a babbling wreck.  A dwarf experiencing this will drop all the items he or she is wearing, one by one, and eventually starve to death.&lt;br /&gt;
* Go on a murderous rampage.&lt;br /&gt;
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The first two outcomes are harmless (except to the moody dwarf, who will die), but you may want to station a squad nearby or assign a few war dogs to the dwarf on the chance that they will lash out.  If you build your workshops inside enclosed rooms (with doors), you can also lock the moody dwarf in the room until he or she starves.&lt;br /&gt;
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Anything that would cause the dwarf to cancel the strange mood job (like being attacked or having the workshop destroyed) will cause [[insanity]]. Note that the [[insanity]] can happen even when the dwarf is not deadlocked on an item; there have been observed instances where a dwarf goes insane while in the process of carrying a required item back to the commandeered workshop. Notably, giving birth while in a strange mood does not interrupt the dwarf; she will ignore the baby until her mood is resolved and it will wander off in the meantime.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>BurnedToast</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d:Cave&amp;diff=13982</id>
		<title>40d:Cave</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d:Cave&amp;diff=13982"/>
		<updated>2008-07-11T06:20:44Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;BurnedToast: changed best way to find caves to a better way.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;A '''cave''' is a natural formation that occurs in mountainous or rocky areas. Some caves may contain hostile [[creatures]] or [[water]], and vary in size from a few tiles to long, winding passageways. Caves can span many z-levels up and down.&lt;br /&gt;
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Caves tend to be somewhat rare when placing a fortress, the best way to find them is to take quests, ask about the surroundings, and scout for them in adventure mode. This will place them on your map, and also on the embark map for fortress mode making it much easier to build on them.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{World}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:World]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>BurnedToast</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
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		<title>40d:Werewolf</title>
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		<updated>2008-05-23T02:00:44Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;BurnedToast: removed kobald bulb comment. No reason to keep false info around even if you do add strikeout.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{CreatureInfo|name=Werewolf|symbol=W|color=rgb(192, 192, 192)|&lt;br /&gt;
bones=N/A|chunks=N/A|meat=N/A|fat=N/A|skulls=N/A|skin=N/A|&lt;br /&gt;
biome=&lt;br /&gt;
* Tundra&lt;br /&gt;
* Taiga forest &lt;br /&gt;
* Any temperate forest&lt;br /&gt;
* Temperate shrubland&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
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This predatory creature usually appears in single units. Cold areas seem to help these [[creatures]] out of their lairs.  They are extremely aggressive, and will home in on your fortress and run down one of your lone [[herbalist]]s or [[woodcutter]]s. A decently skilled [[wrestler]], or 2-3 unskilled recruits, can tear the clueless werewolf to pieces. However, they can regenerate even yellow wounds very fast, so you better kill them in one go.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Game_Data|[CREATURE:WEREWOLF]&lt;br /&gt;
	[NAME:werewolf:werewolves:werewolf]&lt;br /&gt;
	[TILE:'W'][COLOR:0:0:1]&lt;br /&gt;
	[MODVALUE:4]&lt;br /&gt;
	[LARGE_ROAMING][FREQUENCY:25]&lt;br /&gt;
	[POPULATION_NUMBER:10:20]&lt;br /&gt;
	[CLUSTER_NUMBER:1:1]&lt;br /&gt;
	[LARGE_PREDATOR][EVIL]&lt;br /&gt;
	[FANCIFUL]&lt;br /&gt;
	[PETVALUE:1000]&lt;br /&gt;
	[GRASSTRAMPLE:0]&lt;br /&gt;
	[BONECARN]&lt;br /&gt;
	[PREFSTRING:howls]&lt;br /&gt;
	[BUTCHERABLE_NONSTANDARD]&lt;br /&gt;
	[BODY:HUMANOID:TAIL:2EYES:2EARS:NOSE:2LUNGS:HEART:GUTS:ORGANS:THROAT:NECK:SPINE:BRAIN:HUMANOID_JOINTS:MOUTH]&lt;br /&gt;
	[BODYGLOSS:PAW]&lt;br /&gt;
	[SIZE:8]&lt;br /&gt;
	[MAXAGE:100:200]&lt;br /&gt;
	[ATTACK:MAIN:BYTYPE:MOUTH:bite:bites:1:6:GORE][ATTACKFLAG_CANLATCH]&lt;br /&gt;
	[FAT:1]&lt;br /&gt;
	[NOCTURNAL]&lt;br /&gt;
	[BIOME_TUNDRA]&lt;br /&gt;
	[BIOME_FOREST_TAIGA]&lt;br /&gt;
	[BIOME_ANY_TEMPERATE_FOREST]&lt;br /&gt;
	[BIOME_SHRUBLAND_TEMPERATE]&lt;br /&gt;
	[STANDARD_FLESH]&lt;br /&gt;
	[HOMEOTHERM:10067]&lt;br /&gt;
	[LAYERING:100]&lt;br /&gt;
	[SWIMS_INNATE][SWIM_SPEED:2500]&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Creatures}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Humanoids]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>BurnedToast</name></author>
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		<title>40d:Starting builds</title>
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		<updated>2008-01-11T13:44:04Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;BurnedToast: Removed false note about dwarves with military skills starting with free equipment, and changed what ambushers start with.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;'''Starting builds''' are different strategies that you can choose when starting a new game in [[fortress mode]]. This page gives advice on the different gameplay elements that vary the flow of your game based on your goals. These include; choosing a ''fortress site'', possible ''starting builds''- such as who and what to take with you, and ''challenge builds''- starting builds aimed at providing new challenges that you can set for yourself if you're finding the game too easy.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Fortress Site ==&lt;br /&gt;
Each fortress site offers particular challenges and opportunities; the starting builds below should be adjusted depending on what sort of fortress you envision ... and what it will take to stay alive where you're going!&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Mountains ===&lt;br /&gt;
Most dwarven fortresses are founded along the edges of mountain ranges on sites that combine abundant ore and access to the outside world.  Magma and rare metals lure settlers here, but [[goblins]], [[chasm]] dwellers, and even [[giant eagle]]s are potent threats.&lt;br /&gt;
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Trees and plants do not grow at high elevations, so you'll want to include non-mountainous areas to obtain lumber and food - or, failing this, to pack a lot of extra food and logs.&lt;br /&gt;
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Other consideration is elevation range.  The game allows access up to 15 levels above the highest peak and 15 levels below the deepest valley, so steeper slopes means much more diggable area.  The downside is lag; more levels also means more CPU burden (this can cripple a fortress - be careful).&lt;br /&gt;
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Be sure to include a stream on the map; running water is (almost) essential for any fortress.  In Cold and Freezing climates  streams and lakes will often be frozen year-round and your dwarves may quickly die of exposure.  Choose Temperate or tropical zones for an easier game.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Wooded Plains (with trees and plants) ===&lt;br /&gt;
Flatlands with at least some trees and gatherable plants can also make for highly successful fortresses.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Advantages over mountain zones include abundant trees and plants, guaranteed agriculture both on the surface and underground, fewer hostile fortresses and caves, and (unless frozen) more abundant water.  There are even (rare) magma vents.&lt;br /&gt;
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The greatest disadvantage is lack of rock to mine.  Fewer elevations means fewer exploitable z-levels.  The first few levels below the surface are almost always soil, peat, loam, clay, or sand, none of which offers much (or any) gems, ore, or building material.  An [[aquifer]], if present, may bar all access to stone until you freeze, pump out, or find a way through the water.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Desert, Glaciers, and Barren (few or no trees and plants) ===&lt;br /&gt;
Treeless (or near-treeless) biomes are challenging sites for a fortress:  you get most of the disadvantages of a flatland site without having access to nearly as many trees and plants.  However, near-lifeless zones such as glaciers are wonderful for those with slower machines, as there's little to burden the CPU but your dwarves and livestock.  Deserts and barren areas often have sand; with a sufficient source of energy (preferably magma), you can build almost anything out of unlimited glass.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Ocean Side ===&lt;br /&gt;
An interesting combination of a few of the above locations, beaches are often a mix of ease intermingled with bouts of extreme difficulty. Minerals and trees are often abundant, as well as farmland and sand, but there is often no drinking water unless the biome has a river.&lt;br /&gt;
There is also a likelihood that the settlement will fall between two biomes, potentially hazardous if the player expects a peaceful oceanside meadow, without realizing the ocean is full of amphibious zombie whales.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Starting Builds ==&lt;br /&gt;
Many of the quantities suggested end in a &amp;quot;1&amp;quot; or a &amp;quot;6&amp;quot;; this is to maximize the number of [[barrels]] you start with, since most foodstuffs fit five to a barrel.  More barrels will let you build a larger stockpile for your first winter and conserves the [[wood]] you harvest in the early game for beds and other necessities.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Basic ===&lt;br /&gt;
The first order of business is simply to survive.  Here is a simple, somewhat paranoid, way to do this.&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Dwarves &amp;amp; skills ====&lt;br /&gt;
On most (but not all) sites, you'll want to get food, brew drink, mine, make wood and stone items, and trade.  Whatever additional skills you purchase, be sure to cover these.  If you need more points to buy skills (and it's a good idea to buy lots of skills), remove a battle axe.&lt;br /&gt;
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* 2 miners&lt;br /&gt;
* 1 mason/mechanic&lt;br /&gt;
* 1 carpenter/woodcutter&lt;br /&gt;
* 1 grower/brewer/cook.  He's responsible for making prepared meals and drinks.&lt;br /&gt;
* either a herbalist/grower, or a fisherdwarf, or a hunter.  The first gets you lots of brewable plants on maps with plants, the second gets you food and bones on maps with water (in maps with dangerous fish such as [[carp]] fishing is suicidal so be carefull), and the third gets you meat and bones on maps with animals.  Herbalism is usually the safest of the three.&lt;br /&gt;
* 1 spare dwarf.  You might make him the leader and broker; if so, give him at least novice [[appraiser]] skill so you know what stuff is worth.  You might make him responsible for making trade goods, or turn him into your first soldier, or you might just give him some skills you want to experiment with.&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Items ====&lt;br /&gt;
You want picks, food, and drink.  Everything else is optional.  The suggestions below assume you spent the maximum possible on skills.  We'll pack lots just to be safe.&lt;br /&gt;
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* 2 [[pick]]s - 1 per miner&lt;br /&gt;
* 1 [[battle axe]] - so you can chop wood&lt;br /&gt;
* 1 [[Anvil]] - so you can make weapons, trade crafts, and such&lt;br /&gt;
* 20 units of drink:  [[dwarven ale]], [[dwarven beer]], and [[dwarven rum]] are all good.  [[dwarven wine]] you'll get through brewing.&lt;br /&gt;
* 30 [[plump helmets]] - They're good to eat and produce 5 units of booze for each one brewed at a [[still]].&lt;br /&gt;
* 5 turtles - they get you bones and shells&lt;br /&gt;
* 20 [[plump helmet spawn]] - for planting.&lt;br /&gt;
* 2 dogs - to guard against thieves and help kill intruders.&lt;br /&gt;
* (optional) other kinds of seeds and rock nuts&lt;br /&gt;
* (optional) 1 of many different kinds of meats for extra barrels&lt;br /&gt;
* (optional) some cheap (5 point) leather to make quivers and bags and such&lt;br /&gt;
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If the map is treeless, remove the battle axe and spend the freed points on more plump helmets and logs (you're going to run out however many you bring...).&lt;br /&gt;
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If you're willing to wait a year or two to do any metalworking and you're sure traders will come, remove the anvil and spend the freed points on such things as skills, food and drink, wood, leather, raw materials, or weapons.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== '''Rapid Expansion''' ===&lt;br /&gt;
A plan for quick growth followed up by heavy immigration works well both as an early game strategy and as an assist for a late game foundation.  Starting off with the anvil is also much less troublesome if you drop both battleaxes and make your own picks too.  Don't worry though, you'll be digging out cavernous villas in no time, and cheaply too, with this build.  Food and stone will be in abundance and you'll have excellent worker time utilization. And due to the early metalworking and distributed skills your dwarves have, soon you'll have powerful steel-armored warrior workers that'll form the bedrock of a city guard.&lt;br /&gt;
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Always build a Woodburning furnace, Smelter and Metalsmith shop first, and take apart that wagon for extra logs. Either burn those logs into charcoal, or smelt coal into fuel, and then make your tools.&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Dwarves &amp;amp; skills ====&lt;br /&gt;
By dropping both picks and axes you'll be able to afford a lot of useful skills, and you'll be able to get a metalsmithing shop running within the first seconds of your game, so no precious time is lost. Your Dwarves are divided largely into two groups, your laborers (Butcher, Baker and candle--er, Brewer) and your craftsdwarves.  Essentially a Bluecollar/Whitecollar divide to set up a nice class war later. Also, by having such wide assortments of skills, your dwarves will get lots of attribute bonuses and become extremely capable fighters by the time you need to worry about that.&lt;br /&gt;
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Laborers are given mining and growing skills with some extra to cover food production.  The Ranger is the oddball, but will spend his early days gathering plants and hauling items, so fits here. Your first order of business with them is to dig that top later out quickly and get some farms started and fully stocked.  Then, as they grow, you can go back to digging out the rest of the base.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The Baker: +5 Mining, +3 Cooking, +2 Growing.&lt;br /&gt;
* The Brewer: +5 Mining, +3 Brewing, +2 Growing.&lt;br /&gt;
* The Butcher: +5 Mining, +1 Butchering, +1 Leatherworking, +1 Tanning, +2 Growing.  Make some bags for sand and the Quarry Bushes and a butcher's shop before the Ranger starts his hunts.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The Ranger: +3 Woodcutter, +3 Carpenter, +2 Axedwarf, +1 Herbalist, +1 Ambusher. Be sure to assign a war dog or two to this guy, since he's the only one who needs to go outside. Once he gets an axe, he'll also be a competent fighter and hunter and will start with armor due to +1 ambusher.&lt;br /&gt;
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Craftsdwarves focus on running shops, building trade goods, and making the outpost as profitable as possible in the first year, to attract additional immigrants that can be thrown into the mines or toil in the mushroom fields. They should have very broad skill bases, but the actual choice of leader is up to you.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The Smithy: +1 Metalsmith, Armorsmith, Weaponsmith, Furnace Operator, Wood Burner, Stone Crafting, Bone Carving. This guy will cover all of your rarely needed creation skills, and make your picks and axes. After this he usually ends up making scads of stone crafts for sale. Glassworking, gem cutting, and potash making are good as well, and even with novice in all areas you'll build fast enough for these rare items.&lt;br /&gt;
* The Foreman: +3 Building Design, +3 Mechanic, +1 Judge of Intent, Appraiser, Organizer, Record Keeper.  Building design and mechanical work is extremely quick work, so instead give him nobleman skills to spend the rest of his work hours on. These are extremely useful in the long-term.&lt;br /&gt;
* The Freemason: +5 Masonry. It seems a bit silly to give him just one primary skill,  but Masons are usually working 24 hours a day on all variety of stone doors, chairs and tables.&lt;br /&gt;
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There's a variation if you want a more 'compact' design of those last two:&lt;br /&gt;
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* The Construction Worker: +5 Masonry, +3 Mechanic, +2 Building Design.&lt;br /&gt;
* The Lazy Boss: +3 Fishing, +3 Fish Cleaning, +1 Judge of Intent, Appraiser, Organizer, Record Keeper.&lt;br /&gt;
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This is not as useful or safe, as Fishing is a time-intensive skill, so it takes him away from his recordkeeping job for extended periods and a Carp might kill him.  It also forces your Mason to get behind on Queues every time someone needs a trap build or a workshop set up.  Halting book-keeping doesn't slow down any production, so the original stat-spread can work out better.&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Items ====&lt;br /&gt;
The only thing you need is your anvil, a few stones and bars of metal, everything else is optional. A point of contention is the Iron Axe you'll be making, as some may prefer it to be steel. Steel Bars cost 150, which is three times the cost of iron, and only provide a small damage bonus and no chopping speed bonus. If you start in an area with [[Limestone]] or [[Chalk]] you'll soon be able to smelt Steel with your functioning metalsmith shop anyway.  If you're on a map without trees, well, I suppose you don't need the axe at all.  But in that case you'd be better off taking the picks, dropping the anvil, and buying a few hundred logs.&lt;br /&gt;
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* 1 [[Anvil]] - this is what makes it all possible, and helps you get started faster.&lt;br /&gt;
* 3 [[Copper|Copper bars]] - these cost 10 each, and will be your picks. Three for the price of one, literally.&lt;br /&gt;
* 1 [[Iron|Iron bar]] - this costs 50, and will be your axe.  The 40 extra is worth it for the damage increase you get over copper or bronze.&lt;br /&gt;
* 2 [[Bituminous coal]] or [lLog]]s - you can smelt two coal into 4 fuel for the cost of 2 logs. Inexpensive at 3 each, one can afford to bring more.&lt;br /&gt;
* 4 cheap stone - any sort works, such as inexpensive [[granite]]. You'll use these to make your first three buildings.&lt;br /&gt;
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That's what you need to get started, but this is a guide for the items on your list. This build does not require or recommend bringing plump helmets due to their cost. Instead, encourage your dwarves to eat the turtles and meat out of the barrels and cook wine biscuits.  Your farms will be running amazingly quickly anyway, and for half the cost of a single helmet you can make feed several dwarves on baked beer. You'll get enough seeds from brewing the [[plump helmets]] soon enough.&lt;br /&gt;
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* 26 of [[Dwarven wine|Wine]], [[Dwarven rum|Rum]], [[Dwarven beer|Beer]] and [[Dwarven ale|Ale]]&lt;br /&gt;
* 36 of [[rock nut]]s, [[Plump helmet spawn]] and [[Pig tail]] [[seeds]]&lt;br /&gt;
* 11 [[turtle]]s - these hilarious little dudes are way better than the meat you usually set out with, what with all the bones they leave. I use these as 'before farming' rations and build up a good supply of bone bolts. Shells are also valuable to have around.&lt;br /&gt;
* 1 of each other 2 cost meat, for extra empty barrels. &lt;br /&gt;
* 2 [[Dogs]] - preferably war dogs or hunting dogs. Assign these to your Ranger. Bring a pair so you can make more dogs.&lt;br /&gt;
* 1 [[Horse]] - they're relatively inexpensive and will help you begin breeding horses faster, as you are nearly always getting a horse with your wagon. Livestock are a valuable commodity for meat and bones, and you want as many of these as possible 'emergency rations' on hand.&lt;br /&gt;
* 4 [[Leather]] - you need leather bags to process [[quarry bush]]es and to gather sand for glass. Four will be enough, and you can get it for only 20.&lt;br /&gt;
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If you do it exactly as written, you will end up with a few points left over. Grab some extra food or upgrade one of your copper bars to an actual copper pick, if you want a faster start. These foodstuffs will last a very long time if managed properly, so get your farms going and start preparing for next year now.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Metalbashing/Glassworking ===&lt;br /&gt;
Heavy metalbashing and glassworking requires a site with 1) abundant fuel and 2) raw materials.  Magma is ideal but large coal seams or a forest will also suffice.  A site with either limestone or chalk means nearly unlimited steel.  Any site with &amp;quot;sand&amp;quot; (not &amp;quot;loamy sand&amp;quot; or the like) will permit glassworking.  Failing these, any place with lots of rock, trees, and preferably sand will work fine.  Your biggest choice when setting up is whether to optimize for a fast start or long-term success.&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Dwarves &amp;amp; skills ====&lt;br /&gt;
Unless you're trying a low-skills challenge, each dwarf should get the maximum possible number (currently 10) of skill boosts; remove a battle axe to free up needed points.  Individual preferences can be mighty handy; if you have a dwarf who likes steel, clear glass, crossbows, siege engine parts, or something else equally interesting, he's an ideal candidate for matching skills.&lt;br /&gt;
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* A Carpenter/Leader:  Points into Carpenter, Wood Cutter, and a bunch of nobles' skills, including at least novice Negotiator and Appraiser.  This dwarf should have good inter-personal thoughts/preferences.&lt;br /&gt;
* A Mason/Mechanic:  Points into Mason, Building Designer, and Mechanic.  Adding more points to Mason gets construction materials and furniture faster.  More points to Mechanic allows faster trap-setting.  Adding Appraiser and/or Negotiator skills gives you a back-up leader or broker.  A boost to Wrestling gets you better on-call defense.&lt;br /&gt;
* A Farmer/Herbalist (assumes the site has at least some plants):  This dwarf will gather the plant material you need to brew drinks.  Points into Grower and Herbalist.  Leftover skill raises should be invested in a valuable, hard to raise trade skill such as [[Blacksmith]], [[Metal_crafter|Metal Crafter]], or perhaps [[Glassmaker]] or [[Clothier]].&lt;br /&gt;
* A Farmer/Brewer/Cook:  This dwarf is responsible for keeping your community fed and liquored up.  Points into Grower, Brewer, and (optionally) Cook.  Leftover skill raises should be invested as for the Farmer/Herbalist.&lt;br /&gt;
* A Craftsdwarf:  Points into whatever hard-to-raise skills you most want.  [[Armorsmith]], [[Weaponsmith]], [[Bowyer]], [[Glassmaker]], and even [[Siege_engineer|Siege Engineer]], [[Clothier]], or [[Gem_setter|Gem Setter]] can all be good choices depending on your setup.  If you plan to bash metal, remember to spend a few points on Furnace Operator and (if needed) Wood Burning.&lt;br /&gt;
* 2 Miners/Soldiers:  Points into both mining and military skills.  The miners first get legendary and then become extremely powerful fighters.  Remember that it's much easier to increase Mining skill than most of the military skills (especially Armor User), but also that you'll want capable miners immediately.&lt;br /&gt;
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With this setup, you have several ways to make the trade goods you'll need to buy what you lack.  Metal goblets, stone mugs, handwear, footwear, mechanisms, bone or wood crossbows, prepared meals, or bone and shell crafts are all solid choices.&lt;br /&gt;
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Food and drink for the first few seasons are assured by first cooking all the meat to free up barrels, then brewing your plump helmets (and any gathered plants) to make booze.&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Items (all starts) ====&lt;br /&gt;
* 2 [[pick]]s&lt;br /&gt;
* 6 or 11 of each of [[dwarven ale]], [[dwarven beer]], and [[dwarven rum]].  With abundant brewable plants and lots of wood you don't actually need any starting booze, but it's nice to have a backup.&lt;br /&gt;
* at least 11 [[plump helmet]]s.  Bring a lot more if you anticipate problems with gathering brewable plants.&lt;br /&gt;
* at least 6 [[turtle]]s.  Not only are they good eating, they ensure you have the [[shell]]s and [[bone]]s needed to satisfy [[strange mood]]s.&lt;br /&gt;
* 1 of every kind of meat that costs 2 or 4, as each type of meat will be packed in its own free barrel and cooking the meat will release that barrel for use.  If you don't like this feature, bring more turtles or plump helmets instead.&lt;br /&gt;
* Unless the map is glacial, or you intend only outdoor agriculture, bring plenty of seeds as well.  A minimum of 15 plump helmet spawn are essential for a quick start to underground agriculture; rock nuts, sweet pod seeds, pig tail seeds, and cave wheat seeds will diversify your meals and drinks and let you set up for clothes-making.  Seeds are packed in bags.&lt;br /&gt;
* (optional) some cheap (5 point) leather to make quivers and bags and such&lt;br /&gt;
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===== Items (fast start) =====&lt;br /&gt;
* 1 [[Anvil]]&lt;br /&gt;
* no [[battle axe]] - you'll save points by making it yourself.&lt;br /&gt;
* only a few logs (just enough to get started with), unless the map has no trees&lt;br /&gt;
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See [[Make Your Own Weapons]] for more details on what to bring and how to make the battle axes you need to chop wood.&lt;br /&gt;
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===== Items (moderate start) =====&lt;br /&gt;
Warning:  Going without an anvil will slow you down until you get one in trade (which normally takes about 6 or 7 seasons) and might even cost you a failed [[strange mood]].&lt;br /&gt;
* no [[Anvil]]&lt;br /&gt;
* 1 [[battle axe]] (at present, steel is the only option)&lt;br /&gt;
* few or no logs, unless the map has no trees&lt;br /&gt;
* with the points you save by not bringing an anvil, buy logs, bars of base metals you expect your site to lack, and (if needed) coal (for fuel and coke) and/or dolomite (for flux).&lt;br /&gt;
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===== Items (slow start) =====&lt;br /&gt;
* no [[Anvil]]&lt;br /&gt;
* no [[battle axe]]s&lt;br /&gt;
* lots of logs - at least 25 on a heavily forested map.  You can survive without them, but it's a lot cheaper to buy logs to make barrels than to bring more drink.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Free Equipment ===&lt;br /&gt;
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Dwarves who start with the ambusher skill get some leather armor, a crossbow and some bolts for free. &lt;br /&gt;
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{{Starting FAQ}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Challenge builds ==&lt;br /&gt;
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If repeatedly defending a besieged fortress isn't difficult enough for you, here are a few challenges you can set for yourself. You might also want to check out the [[Game goals|List of goals]] for other ways to challenge yourself.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Hermit ===&lt;br /&gt;
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* No [[skill]]s&lt;br /&gt;
* One [[pick]] and no other supplies&lt;br /&gt;
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A well known and popular challenge. Kill off the 6 starting dwarves and any [[immigrants]] as they arrive, and try to make a living for the last dwarf.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Outcast ===&lt;br /&gt;
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* No [[skill]]s&lt;br /&gt;
* One [[pick]] and no other supplies&lt;br /&gt;
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Same as the hermit challenge, only with multiple hermits. Turn off immigrants or kill them.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Roughing it ===&lt;br /&gt;
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* No picks&lt;br /&gt;
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Don't [[dig]] or build at all. Bring no [[pick]]s, and don't ask for them in [[Trade depot|trade]]. Watch as the more &amp;quot;weather-averse&amp;quot; dwarves slowly go mad.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Gone to the dogs ===&lt;br /&gt;
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* One [[pick]]&lt;br /&gt;
* A ton of [[animals]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Replace the starting equipment with an equal value in [[dog]]s or [[cat]]s.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== ASPCA ===&lt;br /&gt;
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* No [[animals]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Don't bring any [[animals|pets]]. Furthermore, due to the possibility of animals being caught in them, don't build any [[traps]], either. If [[immigrants]] bring pets, get rid of them somehow. (If you're a particularly rabid ASPCA member, you could get rid of the pet-bearing immigrants, too, but that's probably excessive.)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Diplomacy ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Six dwarves with only social [[skill]]s&lt;br /&gt;
* One skilled dwarf&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Six courtiers of the king's court made some ill-advised remarks within earshot of the king, and as a result have been ordered to go found an outpost. They've hired you to make sure they survive. The six nobles only have social skills and refuse to do any work that is beneath them.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Luddite ===&lt;br /&gt;
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* No mechanics or [[mechanism]]s&lt;br /&gt;
* No [[machine]]s&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Traps]] and moving [[bridge]]s are forbidden, [[farming]] must be accomplished by hand.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== City-States ===&lt;br /&gt;
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* No [[skill]]s&lt;br /&gt;
* 7 or multiple of 7 of everything you bring&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At the start your dwarves split everything equally and move to 7 different locales that are not interconnected. They have to mine their own rooms, plant their own crops, use their own craft piles. This will probably require a bit of cross-fertilization until you get [[door]]s and can lock everyone in, but after that it is every dwarf for him/herself!&lt;br /&gt;
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===Wooden Town===&lt;br /&gt;
Start on any treeless map and make everything that can out of wood. Stone may only be used for crafts to trade and things which cannot be made from wood e.g. mechanisms. Metal can be smelted into bars but these bars must be traded away with no further refinement. This will mean your only defense will be [[marksdwarf|marksdwarves]] with wooden bolts or traps Alternatively start on a map with an [[aquifer]] and do not tunnel beneath it but build all buildings from stone.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Dwarves on a Diet ===&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Fishing Village ====&lt;br /&gt;
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Give your dwarves only the fishing skill and other fishing related skills (like bonecrafting.) Try to survive off a [[fish]] only diet. Flood the river and build houses above it so the dwarves can fish through their floors. There will be an extra challenge if the river freezes in the winter.&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Carnivore ====&lt;br /&gt;
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* No plants or seeds&lt;br /&gt;
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Only eat strays, pets, and animals you trap and hunt. No farming or plant gathering. Keep all your pets in cages and care for them as little as possible. Eat your dwarves' pets first for an extra challenge. If this upsets your dwarves, ridicule or ignore them. (If you are particularly heartless, you could cage those dwarves as well because anyone that empathizes with animals doesn't deserve any rights either.)&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Vegetarian or vegan ====&lt;br /&gt;
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* No meat or fish&lt;br /&gt;
* Vegans - no cheese, leather, silk, or shell&lt;br /&gt;
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A fairly easy challenge. Take no meat and buy no meat. Butcher no animals. Gut no fish. To make your dwarves vegan, use no animal products like the [[Elf|elves]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==== IOGT / AA ====&lt;br /&gt;
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* No alcohol&lt;br /&gt;
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Quite possibly, this is the cruelest challenge that your dwarves can be given. Don't ever brew any alcohol. Build [[well]]s instead and watch your now teetotaller dwarves work slower and slower by the season.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Hunting Party ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* One marksman/ambusher&lt;br /&gt;
* Two camp servants (e.g. one cook/brewer/herbalist, one butcher/tanner/leatherworker/woodcutter)&lt;br /&gt;
* Four clients, all dabbling in marksman/ambusher but with primarily civilian skills.&lt;br /&gt;
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No anvil, lots of hunting dogs ... and a haunted wood. (In a terrifying wood, you may find all the trees &amp;amp; plants are dead, severely reducing long-term prospects.)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Immigration and Customs Enforcement ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* One miner/mason/architect&lt;br /&gt;
* One woodcutter/carpenter/architect&lt;br /&gt;
* Five military dwarves&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
No anvil, lots of food, in a canyon - spend the first year building fortifications to interdict traffic. Immigrants can build a town around you, but your original dwarves remain dedicated to their mission.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Dwarf Siege ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Start in the middle of a goblin fortress. See how long you can survive, and how many goblins you can kill.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Dwarfsicles ===&lt;br /&gt;
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Select a map region in the northern extremities (or another very cold area), where water is frozen for much or all of the year. All construction that can be undertaken with stone must use [[ice]], instead. Be sure to bring plenty of [[Plump helmet|Plump Helmets]] for brewing drinks!&lt;br /&gt;
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For an insane challenge, forbid yourself from digging in any material that can yield resources other than ice.&lt;br /&gt;
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===This. Is. SPARTAAAA===&lt;br /&gt;
At least 50% of your dwarves should be military 100% of the time, and train in spears, shield use and wrestling. All other dwarves are 'helots' and shouldn't be given any skills - they can be pressed into the military during times of war, but given no equipment or at most a bare minimum of inferior weapons.&lt;br /&gt;
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You should refuse trade with caravans, instead attacking them if possible. You should forbid the use of gold and silver; the making of crafts; and the smoothing of walls or any other task that make your fortress 'beautiful'. &lt;br /&gt;
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You shouldn't create chainmail nor plate armour. You should only brew wine.&lt;br /&gt;
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Any dwarf that drops his shield should be executed.&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sparta#Society Read more about the real Sparta]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== The Mad Butcher ===&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;(this requires a tiny amount of editing to the raws)&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
1. Edit Dwarf Fortress\Raw\object\Creature_Domestic.txt. Remove the tag [BUTCHERABLE_NONSTANDARD] from cats and dogs. &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
2. Start with a normal build except:&lt;br /&gt;
   * One dwarf should be a dedicated butcher/leather worker&lt;br /&gt;
   * buy minimal food&lt;br /&gt;
   * bring as many puppies or kittens as possible&lt;br /&gt;
3. Drop all your puppies or kittens into cages or into animal pits as soon as possible. &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
5. Dig a shaft 10 or more Z-levels deep, mark the top an animal pit.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
6. At the bottom of the shaft set up a butcher shop, a tanner shop, a bedroom, and some food and leather stockpiles.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
7. Set it all up so that the mad butcher cannot escape.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
8. As you need food, begin selecting animals to be dropped into your deep pit, next to the butcher. &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
9. See how long a single butcher, butchering splattered kittens, can keep your fortress fed! Cooking and farming are cheating... raw meat for everyone!&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Add your challenges! ===&lt;br /&gt;
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Challenges are fun! Add some!&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>BurnedToast</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d:Metalsmith%27s_forge&amp;diff=6804</id>
		<title>40d:Metalsmith's forge</title>
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		<updated>2008-01-10T14:50:21Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;BurnedToast: removed verify tag from stone blocks, forges CAN be built with blocks as well as raw stone.&lt;/p&gt;
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{{{2|This page should be merged with [[Metalsmith]]. Please see [[Talk:Metalsmith's forge|talk page]] for more information.}}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Workshop|name=Metalsmith's forge|key=f|job= [[Weaponsmith]], [[Armorsmith]], [[Metalsmith]], [[Crossbow-making]]&lt;br /&gt;
|construction=&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Stone]] or [[block|Stone blocks]]&lt;br /&gt;
|construction_job=&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Weaponsmith|Weaponsmithing]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Armorsmith|Armoring]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Metalsmith|Blacksmithing]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Metal crafter|Metalcrafting]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Crossbow-making]]&lt;br /&gt;
|use=&lt;br /&gt;
* [[metal|Metal bars]]&lt;br /&gt;
|production=&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Chain]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Crafts]] - X3 from one metal bar.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Goblet]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Toy]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Instrument]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Flask]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Coins]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Stud]]&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The '''metalsmith's forge''' is a [[workshop]] used by dwarves to turn [[metal|metal bars]] into useful objects such as [[weapon]]s, [[armor]], [[furniture]], [[coins]], [[ammunition]] for [[siege]] equipment, [[traps|trap components]], and other [[Finished Goods|finished goods]]. To build a forge, you must have an [[anvil]] which you start with by default, using 1000 [[starting points]]. If you don't bring an anvil, you may be able to trade with dwarven and human [[caravan]]s, who often carry iron anvils at a cost of 1000☼, and steel anvils at a cost of 3000☼.  You may request one from the [[dwarven liaison]]  or human [[guild representative]] if you are willing to pay an increased price to guarantee that at least one anvil arrives.  Note that it is presently useless to request the more-expensive steel anvil as there is no difference in productivity.{{version|0.27.169.33a}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Workshop Skills==&lt;br /&gt;
The metalsmith's forge supports multiple skills, so dwarves will need the correct skill for the item you want them to create. The skills available are:&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Weaponsmith|Weaponsmithing]] -- weapons and bolts&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Armorsmith|Armoring]] -- armor&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Metal crafter|Metalcrafting]] -- [[Craft|Crafts]], [[Coins]], and [[chain]]s&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Crossbow-making]] -- crossbows&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Trapping]] -- animal traps (possibly a bug)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Metalsmith|Blacksmithing]] -- All furniture (except chains) and blocks&lt;br /&gt;
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==Finished goods==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Chain]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Crafts]] - Three crafts will be made from each metal bar used.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Goblet]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Toy]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Instrument]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Flask]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Coins]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Stud]]&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Workshops}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Buildings]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Workshops]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>BurnedToast</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d_Talk:Trap&amp;diff=18414</id>
		<title>40d Talk:Trap</title>
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		<updated>2008-01-06T12:41:03Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;BurnedToast: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Couldn't one generate a mild supplementary food source by putting cage traps out on the map at random? Or create rows of them to catch aggressive creatures that are chasing down a fleeing dwarf. The ability to place them on the surface has some interesting possibilities. [[User:Kefkakrazy|Kefkakrazy]] 04:45, 4 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: You can really do this with any kind of trap now - I built a 1 tile wide stair/corridor up an exposed cliff face, and as I was concerned about goblins and the like I stonefall-trapped it. Ever since then some of the local wildlife has used it to get up and down the 5 z-level cliff, with predictable and hilarious results. The goats just die, but the marmots are hurled off the cliff face to splatter on the ground below. It's a nice easy meat/leather/fat source, as well as being entertaining &amp;quot;Dwarfy McDwarf cancels reload stone trap - interrupted by (flying) hoary marmot&amp;quot; [[User:Acama|Acama]] 19:48, 20 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Will berserk dwarves set off pressure plates? Toady mentioned he was going to stop that from happening [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 19:39, 4 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Does triggering an upright spike with a lever make it retract? I am testing this now.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Jayjayjuhwetplane|Jayjayjuhwetplane]] ([[User talk:Jayjayjuhwetplane|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/Jayjayjuhwetplane|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Will flooding a spiked pit break or cancel the spike trap? I'd test this, but I don't have the channel dug in yet. --[[User:Xazak|Xazak]] 18:30, 5 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm pretty sure the &amp;quot;corpse stuck in trap&amp;quot; chance is 50%, according to Toady either on IRC or some forgotten forum post a few months back.  I really can't remember for sure.  -[[User:EarthquakeDamage|EarthquakeDamage]] 02:31, 10 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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RE Upright Spikes:  They're are only effective if something falls on them, right?  They don't slow and certainly don't hurt anything just walking through them?  -[[User:EarthquakeDamage|EarthquakeDamage]] 02:35, 10 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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editing info on pike trap according to info on this[http://www.bay12games.com/cgi-local/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&amp;amp;f=7&amp;amp;t=001777] topic&lt;br /&gt;
'' —Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Thatguyyaknow|Thatguyyaknow]] ([[User talk:Thatguyyaknow|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/Thatguyyaknow|contribs]]) ''&lt;br /&gt;
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I've secured the entries oy my magma furnaces with cage traps, but it seems that the fire imps just walk through.&lt;br /&gt;
Just as the Giant moles did. How so? {{unsigned|Doub}}&lt;br /&gt;
:supposedly there is a bug that causes any creatures on the map when it is generated to count as residents, and thus know where your traps are and not trigger them. I've never run into the problem myself, but I've never specifically tested for it so I can't really say for sure if it still exists (or ever did). --[[User:BurnedToast|BurnedToast]] 07:41, 6 January 2008 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>BurnedToast</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d_Talk:Maximizing_framerate&amp;diff=30769</id>
		<title>40d Talk:Maximizing framerate</title>
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		<updated>2008-01-04T05:00:24Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;BurnedToast: /* Weather and Trees */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;===Effect on # of dwarves, framerate calculations===&lt;br /&gt;
I'm not sure how important the number of dwarves is on the framerate.  I was getting about 12 to 15 with 22 dwarves, and this has fallen to 9 with 97 dwarves.  I think it is more bad pathing, like animals being caught behind doors that causes more problems than the number of units themselves.  The addition of 80 goblins had an impact of 1 fps as well... although again, they probably weren't having any trouble path finding to no where. --Gotthard 13:53, 3 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I typically see a substantial drop in framerate when new immigrants come, and afterward the game's never as fast or responsive.  However, I also demand a higher framerate (not less than 40, to avoid annoying interface lagging/jerkiness) than many people seem prepared to tolerate, so our findings aren't inconsistent.  You just have more load already and so don't notice a given amount of additional usage as much.  [[User:Fedor|Fedor]] 05:39, 7 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::If this is the case, then I doubt there is a linear relationship associated with the FPS values.  The G_FPS might also impact this.  Typically, 10-12 more dwarves lowered my FPS by 1 at max, and I have 6 masons making blocks for my castle, and 18 dwarves running around permanently putting them up.  I would guess that the FPS drops off fast to begin with, so it takes a lot to go down from 10-9 fps compared to 40-39 fps. --Gotthard 08:35, 7 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Yes, this is expected.  Framerate changes aren't linear and here's why: Let us imagine that a given computer can process 10,000 game things per second.  A framerate of 100 means that the game requires only 100 calculations per update, and therefore can update 100 times/second.  A framerate of 1 means the game has to perform 10,000 calculations per update.  To drop from 40 to 39 FPS, the game must require ~6 more calculations per update.  To drop from 10 to 9 FPS, the game must require ~111 more calculations per update.  [[User:Fedor|Fedor]] 08:51, 13 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Wow, I can't stand things if FPS falls under ~80! Though, running a 2.1Ghz Dual Core and 512M 8600GeForce probably has some bearing on it. Personally, I run my G_FPS at only 10, and FPS_CAP at 200. I haven't gotten to economy sized populations yet with these settings (mostly on purpose cause I also keep my POP_CAP to only 10 until I've gotten the majority of the fortress dug out and a good stock of food and bedrooms, etc. The extra dwarves end up just getting in the way any other time I've tried my play-style. With this setup, I usually average around 150 FPS. Also, I've noticed a difference in FPS if I have the map section open, either single or double pane, moreso when there are a large number of creatures on the map. Simply closing (tabbing) the map got me an increase from ~125 to ~140. Should be worth 2-3 frames at the low FPS levels you guys are talking about. I'm also curious if the FPS counter itself has a significant effect on frames... --[[User:n9103|n9103]] 11:40, 17 Dec 2007 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Weather and Trees===&lt;br /&gt;
Is it just me, or with weather turned trees will not grow back. Most saplings have withered and died. The landscape is littered with them. I'm in a Mirthful area, so it's not alignment. I haven't been able to get any trees since I deforested the entire area, and yes, it has been over three years. I'm playing 33d. [[User:Klada|Klada]] 19:50, 5 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Well I've been playing map for 6 years now, and I've had weather on the entire time, tons of trees have grown back.  I've not deforested the ENTIRE area, but from what I understand trees grow back at a proportional rate to the amount of area there was to grow, so it should be better.  I think saplings randomly die, perhaps moreso with traffic on them but... I don't have an explanation. --Gotthard 19:23, 6 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::&amp;quot;Is it just me, or with weather turned trees will not grow back.&amp;quot; Turned on or turned off? Logically, if weather were turned off, trees shouldn't grow to maturity. --[[User:n9103|n9103]] 11:29, 17 Dec 2007 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Trees grow back just fine with weather turned off. I don't know why sometimes most or all the saplings die, but it's not turning weather off that causes it. --[[User:BurnedToast|BurnedToast]] 00:00, 4 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Economy===&lt;br /&gt;
Can we confirm/disprove the effect of the economy on framerate? --[[User:DDouble|DDouble]] 02:42, 13 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Not sure what you mean exactly.  The economy makes several changes, any of which might potentially impact speed.  Can you give more detail on what specifically might potentially be causing a slowdown (or speed boost)?  Is there a discussion on the forum that you have in mind?  [[User:Fedor|Fedor]] 08:51, 13 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I'm pretty sure he's talking about the init setting and turning it off. The 'potentially' part you mentioned is what he wanted clarification on. Does turning the setting off before the economy activates improve pre-economy performance? There might indeed be people out there that are willing to lose one of the cooler features for a much improved framerate. A good question is does turning that setting off prevent you from ever gaining an economy (when you decide to turn the option back on) should you pass the point where it should have activated? --[[User:n9103|n9103]] 11:27, 17 Dec 2007 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== One Way Stairs ===&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Use ...multiple one-way stairways to connect any two spots where lots of dwarves will want to be&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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How do you make a one way stair? I tried searching here, and on the forum, but didn't find it. [[User:Calculus|Calculus]]&lt;br /&gt;
:I mean to use paired up and down staircases instead of up/down ones.  This suggestion is now removed because I'm not sure it actually makes a difference (it's safer for your dwarves, but I don't see a difference in game speed) [[User:Fedor|Fedor]] 14:50, 2 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::How is a single-floor staircase (down+up) any safer than using a multiple-floor staircase (down+down/up+up)?&lt;br /&gt;
::Or for that matter, how is it different than making all your staircases down/up (minus bottom level of course)? --[[User:N9103|Edward]] 22:40, 3 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::If a dwarf falls down a multi-level up/down staircase, he may die or be badly injured.[[User:Fedor|Fedor]] 22:52, 3 January 2008 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>BurnedToast</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d:Maximizing_framerate&amp;diff=29798</id>
		<title>40d:Maximizing framerate</title>
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		<updated>2008-01-04T04:58:41Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;BurnedToast: Removed false comment about windmills not working with weather turned off.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Dwarf Fortress is an extremely CPU-intensive application that currently requires a fast, modern machine ([[System_requirements|recommendations]]).  The objective of this page is to help you reduce game lag, a crippling problem for many players.&lt;br /&gt;
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Please mark all advice with the most recent game version it is known to work for.  This game is under rapid development, Toady One clearly intends to reduce lag where possible, and so methods that worked in, say, v0.27.169.33g may not a few months later.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Advice for v0.27.169.33b-g ==&lt;br /&gt;
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=== OpenGL ===&lt;br /&gt;
* If framerate is extremely slow with an otherwise CPU-friendly fortress and a decent machine, your graphic card's interaction with the OpenGL code used by the game may be at fault.  Updating your drivers usually works; you may also have to adjust some settings in your graphic card's control software, such as turning vertical synchronization off.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Game options ===&lt;br /&gt;
In the folder &amp;quot;\data\init&amp;quot; is a file named &amp;quot;init.txt&amp;quot;.  Edits to this file can greatly increase game speed.  Keep backups for safety and to save yourself having to re-enter values every time you upgrade.&lt;br /&gt;
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* [SOUND:OFF]:  Slightly increases speed.  Cost is lack of sounds.&lt;br /&gt;
* [FPS:YES], [FPS_CAP:100]:  Handy indicator of how fast your game is running.&lt;br /&gt;
* [G_FPS_CAP:15]:  Controls refresh rate.  Lower values often boost speed dramatically ... at the cost of less frequent visual updates, which can pose a problem during battles.&lt;br /&gt;
* [VSYNC:OFF]:  Attempting to synchronize refreshes can kill game speed for some players (depending on your OS, graphics card, and OpenGL settings).&lt;br /&gt;
* [PRIORITY:HIGH]: This option automatically makes the game run in high priority.  This will probably prevent your computer from effectively running anything at the same time as the game and, for some players, causes major lag in the DF interface as well.  Still worth a try, though.  [PRIORITY:REALTIME] devotes even more resources to Dwarf Fortress, but has been known to cause stuttering gameplay.  Increasing priority will make the game difficult to kill using task manager if it locks up.&lt;br /&gt;
* [TEMPERATURE:NO]:  Turning off temperature greatly increases speed.  It also kills off some rather nice lava warming effects, stops rivers from freezing and (importantly!) thawing, makes glacial maps less interesting, and prevents sudden deaths from exposure.  You're well-advised to stick with &amp;quot;warm&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;hot&amp;quot; fortress sites if you turn temperature off and your source of water is a stream.&lt;br /&gt;
* [WEATHER:NO]:  Turning off weather increases speed noticeably.&lt;br /&gt;
* [CAVEINS:NO]: Turning off cave-ins increases speed only fractionally.&lt;br /&gt;
* [POPULATION_CAP:40]:  Keep your population under control to prevent the game bogging down.  Pathfinding for numerous dwarves can bring even a fast machine to its knees.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Fortress site ===&lt;br /&gt;
* Moving fluids are the major source of lag in most maps at game start.  Magma and (to a lesser extent) running water are CPU hogs in the current version.  If you haven't got the hardware to run DF with a magma site, suck it up and go without.  Aquifers (until tapped) and stagnant pools seem not to cause major speed issues.&lt;br /&gt;
* Avoid elevation extremes.  The fewer the z-levels, the faster the game runs.&lt;br /&gt;
* Minimize map size.  Smaller maps get you substantially more speed.&lt;br /&gt;
* Avoid caves, towns, ruins, or anything populated.  Everything in them invokes the pathfinding code frequently.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Fortress layout and gameplay ===&lt;br /&gt;
* Narrow paths and bottlenecks cause the pathfinding algorithm to repeatedly recompute a faster route for each dwarf (and pet) as the paths empty and clear.  Use large hallways and multiple stairways to connect any two spots where lots of dwarves will want to be.&lt;br /&gt;
* Keep wandering pets and wild animals to a minimum and cage livestock.  The AI for all of these has become more efficient of late and each one costs much less CPU time than a dwarf, but sheer numbers matter.&lt;br /&gt;
* Avoid designating very large areas for chopping, gathering, detailing, or mining, especially if many dwarves do these things.&lt;br /&gt;
* Some observers suspect that having massive numbers of objects in stockpiles also impacts FPS; others believe any effect is minor{{verify}}.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Cheating ===&lt;br /&gt;
* Fully revealed areas are faster than hidden ones. Running reveal.exe will make the game faster.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Non-factors ===&lt;br /&gt;
The following things ''don't'' have a significant effect on game speed, at least as tested.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Fullscreen or windowed (if OpenGL settings are compatible with the game)&lt;br /&gt;
* Use of graphics, choice of graphics tileset&lt;br /&gt;
* Size of tiles&lt;br /&gt;
* Number of z-levels mined out (fortress pathfinding complexity matters; mere distance up and down doesn't)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Advice for v0.27.169.33a ==&lt;br /&gt;
*  Upgrade.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Advice for earlier versions ==&lt;br /&gt;
* If framerate is always slow at startup, your graphic card's interaction with the OpenGL code used by the game is likely to be at fault.  Turning off vertical synchronization and updating your drivers usually works.&lt;br /&gt;
*  Put animals in cages.  Never keep them behind locked doors and reduce wandering pets to a reasonable number.&lt;br /&gt;
*  Do not specify huge areas for mining or (especially) detailing.&lt;br /&gt;
*  Open up \data\init\init.txt.  Turn off TEMPERATURE and WEATHER and reduce POPULATION_CAP.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hardware- and OS-specific Advice ==&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Dual Processors ===&lt;br /&gt;
* Go into task manager and set the affinity of Dwarf Fortress to one processor, and then set all the programs that use significant resources to the other. If Dwarf Fortress ever utilizes more than one processor, this will of course become irrelevant; currently, however, very few programs do and the best use of a dual processor is to give DF its own processor. &lt;br /&gt;
* Vista's START command can be used to set affinity at run-time with the AFFINITY switch. &lt;br /&gt;
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=== Laptop computers ===&lt;br /&gt;
* Frame rate is higher when running off mains power.  This is because laptops reduce CPU performance to extend the battery life.&lt;br /&gt;
* You can disable that feature in MS Windows, at the expense of the battery running out much more quickly.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Dual monitors===&lt;br /&gt;
* Display DF entirely on one screen (no overlap to the second screen whatsoever).&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Guides]]&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Game_Interface FAQ}}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>BurnedToast</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d_Talk:Human&amp;diff=26466</id>
		<title>40d Talk:Human</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d_Talk:Human&amp;diff=26466"/>
		<updated>2007-12-21T08:42:28Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;BurnedToast: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;If you build in a Human town and you set up your trading post in the middle then will the caravans go from the town to the post or do they come from the edges of the map? --[[User:Varsashi|Varsashi]]&lt;br /&gt;
:If you set up in a human town, human traders don't show up at all. --[[User:BurnedToast|BurnedToast]] 03:42, 21 December 2007 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>BurnedToast</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d_Talk:Carp&amp;diff=9962</id>
		<title>40d Talk:Carp</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d_Talk:Carp&amp;diff=9962"/>
		<updated>2007-12-05T05:14:36Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;BurnedToast: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[Unicorn|There is another contender for the position of King of the Animals, and this one is land-based.]] --[[User:BDR|BDR]] 14:42, 31 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Hmm, what about the other fish? sea lampreys? pike? etc? what about them?  Do they just get shunted, and their named champions brushed aside?&lt;br /&gt;
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:I was going to propose the eagles that seem untargetable as they fly in, grab a dwarf, then drop him from a dizzying height whereupon he spats into chunks on the ground.--[[User:Draco18s|Draco18s]] 03:45, 3 November 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Well, until Toady lets carp and elephants fight each other to settle this once and for all, perhaps carp should be King of the Sea and elephants King of the Land. Eagles can have King of the Air.--[[User:Xazak|Xazak]] 19:53, 3 November 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Hmm, wonder if you can have those eagles tamed.  Dwarven air force anyone? --[[User:Frostedfire|frostedfire]]  10:02, 9 November 2007 (AEDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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It might be worth noting somewhere that you only seem to get &amp;quot;dangerous&amp;quot; fish if you have an actual river (or coastline?).  If you only have a brook and murky pools, you get our old friends turtles and salmon who never attack or scare anyone.  From what I can tell, salmon, turtles, and char seem to be classified as vermin, not creatures, so they don't freak out the dwarfs.  The aquifer seems safe too, though that may depend on what other water sources are nearby.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Can anyone confirm or refute? -- [[User:Angela Christine|Angela Christine]] 19:32, 9 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::From what I've seen, this is correct.  While starting and abandoning several fortresses trying to get the handle of making machines and other devious devices, 5 out of 5 fortresses started next to brooks generated no dangerous fish, while 3 of the 4 started next to major rivers and 2 out of 2 started on the coast had my poor dwarves molested by those vile things.  --[[User:TheUbie|TheUbie]] 01:57, 18 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Brooks cannot contain fish because they don't exist on two z-levels, at least that's what I've seen. No fish. --[[User:Vanan|Vanan]] 00:52, 26 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Brooks exist on z-levels the same way rivers do, however brook tiles are filled with rock which means no fish can be in them (and is why dwarves can walk on them). Channeling a brook so it shows 'real' water will cause it to occasionally get fish like all other pools of water, however large fish such as carp never seem to migrate onto the map so you won't get any of them, just the small 'vermin' fish. --[[User:BurnedToast|BurnedToast]] 00:14, 5 December 2007 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>BurnedToast</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=Butchering&amp;diff=30915</id>
		<title>Butchering</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=Butchering&amp;diff=30915"/>
		<updated>2007-12-05T05:10:14Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;BurnedToast: Removed note about throwing pets into pits - pets cannot be assigned to pits.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Butchering is performed automatically at a [[butcher's shop]] only if there is an edible carcass created somewhere on the map, whether by hunting or by specifying an animal to be butchered using [z] -&amp;gt; [enter] on the &amp;quot;Animals&amp;quot; tab, and then hitting [b] to mark an animal for slaughter. Their status will say &amp;quot;Ready for slaughter.&amp;quot; Animals taken as pets by someone cannot be slaughtered, which poses a problem for reducing the number of animals, or trying to get food.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>BurnedToast</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d_Talk:Insanity&amp;diff=30172</id>
		<title>40d Talk:Insanity</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d_Talk:Insanity&amp;diff=30172"/>
		<updated>2007-12-01T03:32:28Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;BurnedToast: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Actually, insanity doesnt always result in the death of the afflicted dwarf. A dwarf that goes berserk can survive if he succesfully kills all the other dwarfs in your fortress. This might be a realistic possibility for someone like a champion in full adamantium armor. [[User:Diabl0658|Diabl0658]] 21:49, 30 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
* wouldn't that cause a game-over?  Berserk dwarves are &amp;quot;hostile&amp;quot; like a goblin [[User:Coelocanth|Coelocanth]] 22:30, 30 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:A berzerk dwarf will not eat, drink, or sleep so even if it does not cause a game over, he will eventually starve. --[[User:BurnedToast|BurnedToast]] 22:32, 30 November 2007 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>BurnedToast</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d_Talk:Elephant&amp;diff=854</id>
		<title>40d Talk:Elephant</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d_Talk:Elephant&amp;diff=854"/>
		<updated>2007-11-18T15:14:52Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;BurnedToast: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;I changed the line about cave features, but left the rest alone. Are there any other parts that are no longer accurate in this version?--[[User:BahamutZERO|BahamutZERO]] 15:07, 29 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Someone told me that Toady mentioned he had toned down the elephant aggressivness in one of his daily dev posts, does anyone know anything more about that? I don't want to end up having put up a completely out-of-date article. :P --[[User:BahamutZERO|BahamutZERO]] 15:58, 29 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Elephants seem totally non-agressive now, I don't know if they even defend themselves when attacked. I had a dwarven caravan guard slaughter 3 of them without a single wound, all the elephants did was run even when the dwarf was right next to them.  Of course, the dwarf guards have steel instead of iron now, but still, I think elephants are no longer a real threat. --[[User:BurnedToast|BurnedToast]] 02:55, 31 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Then I think Unicorns may have taken their place; in a way they're even worse because they went about slaughtering a bunch of elves without any provocation at all. --[[User:BDR|BDR]] 14:07, 31 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh, the irony of that, eh? --[[User:Xotes|Xotes]] 14:21, 31 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yep, I didn't fail to notice the new analogy; Elephants:Dwarves::Unicorns:Elves. :D --[[User:BDR|BDR]] 15:23, 31 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I deleted most of the old information from the page, yes it was funny but after sending a raw peasant to hunt elephants with an axe and having him bring back multiple elephant corpses I decided it was time to change it. Please DO rewrite it and make it better, please DO NOT just revert the old one. --[[User:BurnedToast|BurnedToast]] 10:14, 18 November 2007 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>BurnedToast</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d:Elephant&amp;diff=727</id>
		<title>40d:Elephant</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d:Elephant&amp;diff=727"/>
		<updated>2007-11-18T15:13:02Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;BurnedToast: rewrote page - old one was funny but terribly inaccurate&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Elephants are large peaceful creatures who wander in any tropical forest and in tropical shrublands. &lt;br /&gt;
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Killing an elephant will yield 16 edible portions of meat and up to 10 portions of fat.&lt;br /&gt;
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Elephants can be tamed but cannot be [[kennel|trained]] -- the only &amp;quot;war animals&amp;quot; presently available in the game are dogs. Elephants maintain their previous behaviors-- they run from or ignore threats unless attacked. &lt;br /&gt;
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== Uses For Elephants ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Having swarms of wild elephants outside your fortress can be a good thing. Marksdwarfs receive a load of experience for hitting an elephant with a bolt, usually bumping their marksdwarf skill a few levels before killing one.  Traders will pay a LOT for even an untamed elephant, so they make good trade items. Elephant produce a stack of 16 bones when butchered, and these can be used to make a stack of 80 bone bolts, meaning your marksdwarfs will have plenty of shots before needing to gather more ammo.&lt;br /&gt;
If you modify your game files to make elephants trainable, War Elephants can form a terrifying assault force.&lt;br /&gt;
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== In real life ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elephant Elephants] are generally peaceful creatures, very intelligent and attached to the family, and hunted to near extinction for their ivory.&lt;br /&gt;
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Recently, attacks to humans by elephants have increased; it's been noted that many elephant family groups have a marked lack of adult females, so the attacks may be the result of elephant calves being orphaned by hunter action and growing up without the elephantine equivalent of social education.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Creatures}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Animals]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>BurnedToast</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d_Talk:Dam&amp;diff=21543</id>
		<title>40d Talk:Dam</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d_Talk:Dam&amp;diff=21543"/>
		<updated>2007-11-17T14:54:36Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;BurnedToast: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;This article should be deleted for the same reason &amp;quot;Rock chute&amp;quot; was. It is an application of the material given in the wiki. --[[User:Savok|Savok]] 00:06, 6 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Maybe - but where else is someone going to find ''specific'' information about this? Browsing through the map archive will only show basic dam construction and give no specific details. Isn't it basically the same as [[Design strategies]]? --[[User:Decanter|Decanter]] 00:14, 6 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Before looking at this page, I had no idea we could make dams and such... --[[User:Eagle of Fire|Eagle of Fire]] 19:07, 12 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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If nothing else we should save the information about excavating the river tiles, I had no idea you needed to do this and I'm sure most people wouldn't either. --[[User:BurnedToast|BurnedToast]] 09:54, 17 November 2007 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>BurnedToast</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d_Talk:Menacing_spike&amp;diff=20682</id>
		<title>40d Talk:Menacing spike</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d_Talk:Menacing_spike&amp;diff=20682"/>
		<updated>2007-11-14T05:10:12Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;BurnedToast: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Ohhhhh boy, wiki war. -_- --[[User:Alfador|Alfador]] 00:44, 5 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I dropped a line on [[User talk:Nerd10101‎|Nerd10101's talk page]] (cause reverting's not nice!) --[[User:Turgid Bolk|Turgid Bolk]] 00:49, 5 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I tested spikes out a little bit today, here is what I found. First was with a leopard, dropping it down 1 z-level with 0, 1, and 5 moderate quality wooden spikes all caused no damage - just stuns. activating the spikes via lever with the leopard on the square killed it (and made the corpse invisible till the spikes retracted). Dropping an elephant had the same effect (i.e nothing but stuns) and when the spikes were activated 5 wooden spikes were enough to mangle (red wound) both lungs, and give it a light liver wound. Setting the pull lever task to repeat made the spikes go up and down real fast, which was both hilarious and very deadly to the elephant. Dropping an elephant from 2 z-levels did moderate damage, and spikes vs no spikes seemed to do roughly the same amount of damage. Finally, activating spikes does friendly fire both to elven merchants and to your own dwarves - in both cases 1 activation of 5 moderate quality wooden spikes was enough to kill them. I'll have to test dropping on higher quality spikes, I don't think falling on them actually does any damage but it's possible wooden spikes just don't do enough to show a difference. For now, I'd say they are meant for pressure plate and lever activated traps only. --[[User:BurnedToast|BurnedToast]] 00:10, 14 November 2007 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>BurnedToast</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d_Talk:Broker_skills&amp;diff=23694</id>
		<title>40d Talk:Broker skills</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d_Talk:Broker_skills&amp;diff=23694"/>
		<updated>2007-11-12T04:51:54Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;BurnedToast: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;:I combined these skills since all the entries are the same. [[User:Jikor|Jikor]] 08:02, 8 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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 It is gained by:&lt;br /&gt;
 * Proposing an unsuccessful trade at the depot.&lt;br /&gt;
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:This seem to controdict the earlier statement that this is a way that the skills are '''not''' gained. Is this skill an exception or what? I think we should make this article clearer. --[[User:Mizipzor|Mizipzor]] 09:25, 8 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::In my first fort I tried to buy out the dwarven caravan with not enough goods, after enough attempts (removing one item each time), the caravan took offence and left. My broker gained the comedian skill after that. So unsuccessful trades do gain skills (not sure if its a random skill or depends how you offended the caravan), anyway the assertion in this article appears to be wrong. [[User:Coelocanth|Coelocanth]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I just copied the text from the previous articles on the subject I haven't really tested these yet. [[User:Jikor|Jikor]] 06:09, 9 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::I am sure that the 'appraiser' skill is trained before the actual trade. My broker went to sleep at the unlucky moment and I allowed anyone to trade with 6-wagon human caravan. The dwarf that came to trade wasn't even dabbling at appraising and when I pressed 'trade' at the depot - he saw all the items' prices. So I actually cancelled trade that time and looked at the dwarf again - he was now competent appraiser. I guess that some experience in appraising skill (maybe 1?) is gained when a dwarf determines the price of each single merchant item for the first time. Later I bought out that whole caravan and the dwarf became dabbling in a handful of other skills. I guess that each successfull and each rejected trade attempt gives some amount(10?, 20?, 50?) in their corresponding 2 partially overlapping sets of social skills. Some experiments can be conducted to determine the exact amounts of skill gains.--[[User:Another|Another]] 07:55, 9 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::I can confirm this. Appraiser goes up just from opening the trading menu, before you've even started putting together an offer. As a result it goes up much faster than any of the other skills, especially once the big caravans start rolling in.&lt;br /&gt;
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Judge of Intent seems to go up on just about every attempted trade, even failed attempts. It seems to go up slightly faster than most of the other skills, which seem to be applied somewhat randomly, based off your broker's personality and possibly other factors (personalities of the foreign merchants?) For instance, my broker has been gaining Persuader, Negotiator, and Intimidator, with ocassional smaller gains in Comedian. [[User:Rpb|Rpb]] 20:21, 10 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Do any of the broker skills actually do anything past novice? I had thought appraiser (or maybe another one) gave a bonus to the value of your goods but I'm not seeing it anymore - probably I had been trading something they asked for without realizing it. Unless you order something heavy (like stone blocks or metal bars) caravans almost always seem to bring enough to enable novice appraiser so you can see the prices, and seeing as the mood thing doesn't really matter much there does not seem to be a lot of point in using a dedicated broker at all. --[[User:BurnedToast|BurnedToast]] 23:51, 11 November 2007 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>BurnedToast</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d_Talk:Mechanic&amp;diff=18212</id>
		<title>40d Talk:Mechanic</title>
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		<updated>2007-11-04T08:56:48Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;BurnedToast: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;I forget-do quality mechanisms change the effectiveness of a trap? Either way, skilled mechanics are pretty useful, especially now that they do more than trapmaking.[[User:Kefkakrazy|Kefkakrazy]] 03:36, 4 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Toady mentioned something about high quality mechanisms working better in traps. I've not personally tested it (and how would you test something like that?) so I am hesitant to put it in as fact, especially because I can't find the post offhand.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>BurnedToast</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d_Talk:Gear_assembly&amp;diff=15213</id>
		<title>40d Talk:Gear assembly</title>
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		<updated>2007-11-03T07:57:04Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;BurnedToast: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&amp;quot;...this causes the windmill construction to collapse. Instead, create a second gear adjacent to the linked gear upon which to support the windmill.&amp;quot; I'm having a hard time visualizing what this means, could someone make a diagram? --[[User:BahamutZERO|BahamutZERO]] 12:48, 2 November 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Level 0, your windmill W (I'm not sure what it looks like)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
....&lt;br /&gt;
.W..&lt;br /&gt;
..&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Level -1, your gear assemblies, * and axle, =&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
####&lt;br /&gt;
#**=&lt;br /&gt;
##&amp;lt;#&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Link your lever to the second assembly (right), such that the Windmill is supported by the other (left).&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Draco18s|Draco18s]] 13:09, 2 November 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: won't this waste 5 power on a useless gear?  why not just build a wall instead? --[[User:Lacero|Lacero]] 15:27, 2 November 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::because you need a gear under the windmill to get power from it. the second gear is so that you can cut power without collapsing the windmill. --[[User:BurnedToast|BurnedToast]] 15:30, 2 November 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::This only applies to a windmill built floating above the ground, so the above example doesn't apply -- disconnecting the gear in Draco18s' example would do nothing to the windmill.  Really, you should just build a set of supports and some actual floor to put an above-ground windmill onto a &amp;quot;solid foundation&amp;quot;, so that it remains supported even when you disconnect power.  That way you don't lose any power from adding another gear assembly.  Gear assemblies are 'spensive. --[[User:JT|JT]]&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Yes, you're right. I was under the impression you needed a gear because mine hadn't worked with a vertical axle when I tried. However, I just tried again and it worked so I must have done something stupid like not dug a channel or placed the windmill wrong the first time. --[[User:BurnedToast|BurnedToast]] 03:57, 3 November 2007 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>BurnedToast</name></author>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page/archive2&amp;diff=433</id>
		<title>Talk:Main Page/archive2</title>
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		<updated>2007-11-02T19:38:06Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;BurnedToast: /* Importing old entries */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;- GUYS I'VE TRIED TO IMPORT PRETTY MUCH ALL USER ACCOUNTS. Let me know if you notice something weird in this wiki, it's possible that parts of the import were fucked. --[[User:Senso|Senso]] 15:05, 29 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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There's some people reporting problems in this thread: http://www.bay12games.com/cgi-local/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&amp;amp;f=2&amp;amp;t=001158 --[[User:BahamutZERO|BahamutZERO]] 15:22, 29 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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The new version is out now! Update the main page! ~~&lt;br /&gt;
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== Accounts had to be wiped ==&lt;br /&gt;
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It's out!&lt;br /&gt;
It's out!&lt;br /&gt;
Rejoice!&lt;br /&gt;
By the way, my account is nonexistent, could you fix that?&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Smoking Gnu|Smoking Gnu]] 19:37, 29 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You'll have to recreate it. --[[User:Peristarkawan|Peristarkawan]] 19:42, 29 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:My user account didn't turn up? :( --[[User:Markavian|Markavian]] 20:05, 29 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Quoted from Senso (the wiki admin) on the forums:&lt;br /&gt;
::&amp;quot;I've tried importing the user accounts but since I've upgraded to a new version of MediaWiki, it doesn't work. They've made changes, whatever.&lt;br /&gt;
::&lt;br /&gt;
::So yeah, please recreate your account. It's sad, I know BUT LIFE IS SAD AND GLOOMY. You'll all forget about it once the new version is released.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
::No big deal. --[[User:Janus|Janus]] 20:31, 29 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Wow, the images during registration are ridiculous. Took me half a dozen until I could recognise more than half of it. --[[User:Ravana|Ravana]] 23:32, 29 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Haha I had the same trouble, I just kept going until I got one I could read. --[[User:Gibbonofdoom|Gibbonofdoom]] 03:58, 30 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Yeah sorry about that but it's either crappy CAPTCHA or SPAMFEST, I had to pick. --[[User:Senso|Senso]] 22:47, 31 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Change guide? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Was just thinking, perhaps one of the links (or sections) on the main page should be a guide to the major changes between last version and this one.  Yes, a TON of stuff has changed, but a lot also has not, and a lot of the core concepts are the same... so I would imagine many of us who have played the previous version(s) would love a section where we can see a list of new basics we have to learn, along with links to those things' individual pages... like, z-axis (obviously), mechanisms, fluid dynamics, nobles, elevation/slope, farming... you get the idea.  --[[User:Cliffjeff|Cliffjeff]] 11:43, 30 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yea, I'm thinking not. Isn't the whole point of DF finding things out on your own? &amp;quot;Losing is Fun&amp;quot; and all that. Ok, so if we summarized all the changes, and someone (like me) didn't want to know we could not just not look at it right? What can I say? I'M WEAK! If we summarize the changes I will CONSUME it! (I'm only here because I still have another 6 hours of work before I can go home and try it!)&lt;br /&gt;
::Meanwhile, I'm lazy and stubborn and would love a consolidated list of only new things I need to know =p and I'm also trapped at work and unable to mess around in the game :( but if the whole point was finding out things on your own, why would we have a wiki? ;p --[[User:Cliffjeff|Cliffjeff]] 15:58, 30 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I agree, I think the change guide is a good idea, and it would also help us direct our attention at the articles that are likely to need the most work. --[[User:Peristarkawan|Peristarkawan]] 16:01, 30 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::It ought not to be very hard to generate a basic change guide based on the official change notes, and then update it as the details are discovered.  --[[User:Bobson|Bobson]] 16:26, 30 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::A change guide 'page' might be useful pointing out major differences but I think the style of the wiki should be aimed at new users who know nothing of previous versions. I think we should not compare old/vs new as a rule, but if necessary we should include comparisons at the bottom of a page as apposed to the main article. That is how I am writing my edits. --[[User:Markavian|Markavian]] 23:26, 31 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Basic Format ==&lt;br /&gt;
I think the [[Farming]] page is a good format for most of the key pages, perhaps the structure from the archive should be followed. --[[User:Infinity|Infinity]] 05:56, 31 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Agreed, I've tried to copy this style on several pages, e.g. [[Gear Assembly]]. --[[User:Markavian|Markavian]] 23:30, 31 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
I would like to add a request for a 'build tree' of sorts.  It would, for example, make figuring out how to get iron bars a whole lot less frustrating. --[[User:Dogcow|Dogcow]] 17:18, 1 November 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Fresh start ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hey, I just wanted to say... starting afresh for me seems to be the right move. So much has changed (I remember a focus on 'farming' and 'irrigation' before) that it just makes sense to start from a clean sheet. We've got 10 months of work to catch up on, good luck every one! --[[User:Markavian|Markavian]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:I agree.  It's also a lot of fun to go &amp;quot;hey, I found out something for myself!  Is there a wiki page on it yet?&amp;quot; and adding stuff.  Or wandering about the wiki and going &amp;quot;what's missing?  Can I fill in the informational gap?&amp;quot;--[[User:Draco18s|Draco18s]] 17:32, 1 November 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Importing old entries ==&lt;br /&gt;
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What's the stance on importing entries from the old wiki for stuff like general item stats? Most of them are still correct (or nearly so) and it would be nice not to have to switch between this and the old wiki any more. I can add a disclaimer to them stating I pulled them from the archives if that's appropriate. --[[User:Xazak|Xazak]] 15:07, 2 November 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:IMO (and I'm not admin or anything) it should be ok but only if you are 100% sure EVERYTHING is correct, and have verified it personally. I've edited at least one article someone copy-pasted with no changes that had old info in it so far and it makes me sad. --[[User:BurnedToast|BurnedToast]] 15:38, 2 November 2007 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>BurnedToast</name></author>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d_Talk:Gear_assembly&amp;diff=15211</id>
		<title>40d Talk:Gear assembly</title>
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		<updated>2007-11-02T19:30:50Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;BurnedToast: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&amp;quot;...this causes the windmill construction to collapse. Instead, create a second gear adjacent to the linked gear upon which to support the windmill.&amp;quot; I'm having a hard time visualizing what this means, could someone make a diagram? --[[User:BahamutZERO|BahamutZERO]] 12:48, 2 November 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Level 0, your windmill W (I'm not sure what it looks like)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
....&lt;br /&gt;
.W..&lt;br /&gt;
..&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Level -1, your gear assemblies, * and axle, =&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
####&lt;br /&gt;
#**=&lt;br /&gt;
##&amp;lt;#&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Link your lever to the second assembly (right), such that the Windmill is supported by the other (left).&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Draco18s|Draco18s]] 13:09, 2 November 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: won't this waste 5 power on a useless gear?  why not just build a wall instead? --[[User:Lacero|Lacero]] 15:27, 2 November 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::because you need a gear under the windmill to get power from it. the second gear is so that you can cut power without collapsing the windmill. --[[User:BurnedToast|BurnedToast]] 15:30, 2 November 2007 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>BurnedToast</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d_Talk:Map_legend&amp;diff=7774</id>
		<title>40d Talk:Map legend</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d_Talk:Map_legend&amp;diff=7774"/>
		<updated>2007-11-02T19:28:24Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;BurnedToast: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Need to update the templates on this wiki. Also, this needs to be updated with any new biomes and volcanoes and the such. [[User:Schm0|Schm0]] 23:05, 30 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Kylith uploaded them and added the volcano tile, much obliged. :) [[User:Schm0|Schm0]] 10:07, 1 November 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Yeah, I just copied the old one over. I think some of the biomes and symbols may have changed, so the page may need further updates... Definitely there are differences with how colors are used, and they are not nearly as universal as they used to be. Ex, purple still is &amp;quot;haunted&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;terrifying&amp;quot;, but red can mean red sand, volcano, or &amp;quot;sinister&amp;quot; depending on context. However, I think that with the new more detailed info on the location map this legend is less important.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Mountain tiles do not show alignment. Instead they indicate the presence of snow.&amp;quot; -This is no longer true, good-aligned mountains seem to appear yellow. I'm not sure if that's just for the &amp;quot;Mirthful&amp;quot; designation, or for all of them. Also don't know if there's still an indication of snowy mountains or not. Have good-aligned areas generally had their colors changed? --[[User:BahamutZERO|BahamutZERO]] 12:31, 2 November 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Evil mountains are purple, light and dark like the other evil tiles. I'd edit the wiki but I don't know how to add pictures. --[[User:BurnedToast|BurnedToast]] 15:28, 2 November 2007 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>BurnedToast</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d_Talk:Cheating&amp;diff=11725</id>
		<title>40d Talk:Cheating</title>
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		<updated>2007-11-01T00:37:51Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;BurnedToast: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;How come losing redirects here? --[[User:Mizipzor|Mizipzor]] 20:34, 31 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I assume the person who linked it was either trying to help people who keep losing (though cheating is not the advice I would personally give) or say that cheating = losing. --[[User:BurnedToast|BurnedToast]] 20:37, 31 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>BurnedToast</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d_Talk:Room&amp;diff=10541</id>
		<title>40d Talk:Room</title>
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		<updated>2007-11-01T00:33:49Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;BurnedToast: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&amp;quot;Walls with ore or gems cannot be smoothed, much less detailed.&amp;quot; Is this still true? I'd heard that smoothing/engraving of ore veins is now possible. And yet again, I can't test because I'm reading the wiki at work while waiting for a database query to finish... &amp;gt;_&amp;gt; --[[User:Alfador|Alfador]] 17:28, 31 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I deleted the comment about not being able to smooth ore or gems, because you CAN in this version (they all count as different types of rocks). Boo whoever copy pasted the article without looking at it.&lt;br /&gt;
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what was the point in aechiving old wiki if people are going to copy and paste, please people if you are going to copy paste thourghly read the article to ensure all info is correct, i didnt read past this so there may be more but rooms are no longer diamonds, this is somehing really obvious and should have been picked up on by whoever copy pasted it otherwise we may as well stick with edditing old wiki. [[User:Thatguyyaknow|Thatguyyaknow]] 20:08, 31 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>BurnedToast</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d:Room&amp;diff=8821</id>
		<title>40d:Room</title>
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		<updated>2007-11-01T00:31:02Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;BurnedToast: deleted outdated info on being unable to smooth gems/ore&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== What is a room? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The answer is not as obvious as it seems. A chamber with a bed in it is not yet a bedroom: you have to select the bed &amp;lt;!--howto is in the following paragraph--&amp;gt; and define a bedroom. The functional room, as the game understands it, is not defined by walls and doors: it is a zone of control extending out from the object that defines the room (in our case the bed). Everything covered by that zone of control is considered part of the room, and will contribute to both the room's value and its effectiveness. This zone of control does '''not''' need to extend to the walls. It is well possible to define several such rooms in one actual room; they may even overlap, although this comes at a penalty.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Creating rooms ==&lt;br /&gt;
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To create a room, you must first have built something capable of supporting a room from the ['''b''']uild menu, such as a [[table]] or [[bed]]. Then you must select the completed item in question with the ['''q'''] command and choose to create a room. The room's radius extends outward in a diamond-shape, but will stop when it hits walls or external [[doors]]. If you want to have a door dividing a room into sub-rooms without blocking the room's radius, you can set it to internal in the door's ['''q'''] menu. Rooms do not have to be blocked off on all sides, and can even overlap, but for various reasons you will usually want to avoid overlapping rooms and give them proper boundaries.&lt;br /&gt;
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In general, you only need to define a room from ''one'' object in the room. For instance, a communal dining room is defined from one table -- just give the room a large enough radius to cover the whole space.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Types of rooms ==&lt;br /&gt;
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* Archery Range, defined from an [[archery target]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Barracks]], defined from a [[bed]], [[weapon rack]], or [[armor stand]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Bedroom]], defined from a [[bed]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Dining room]], defined from a [[table]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Jail]], defined from a [[cage]] or [[restraint]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Meeting hall]], defined from a [[well]] or [[table]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Sculpture garden]], defined from a [[statue]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Office|Study]]/[[Office]]/[[Office|Throne Room]], defined from a [[chair]] or [[throne]]&lt;br /&gt;
:(These are actually the same thing, even though the game refers to them with different names)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Tomb]], defined from a [[coffin]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Zoo]], defined from a [[cage]] or [[aquarium]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Room grades ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Bedrooms, dining rooms, offices, and tombs will have different quality grades depending on their size and furnishings. Higher-quality room grades will produce happy thoughts in dwarves utilizing these rooms. If a room contains items made from materials a dwarf favors, the room will have a higher perceived quality to that dwarf. You can also increase the grade of a room by [[smooth|smoothing]] the wall and the floor.&lt;br /&gt;
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Rooms can also be assigned to specific dwarves (to satisfy a [[nobles|noble's]] requirements, for instance). Bedrooms will be spontaneously claimed by individual dwarves not already possessing a bedroom. Married couples will share a bedroom (except for nobles). Once the [[dwarven economy]] starts, dwarves will have to pay rent for their bedrooms.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Influences on room quality ===&lt;br /&gt;
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* Furniture adds to the quality, by exactly the value of the furniture, which itself depends on material [[value]] and object [[quality]], plus the value of any decorations. Price adjustments by nobles do not affect this value. Statues and windows are a special case; any wall they block access to does not count towards room value.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Floor and wall grids add to value. See table below.&lt;br /&gt;
* Rooms should normally be separate. If rooms share floor space, then the quality 'score' is divided by four for those rooms. Rooms can share walls and external doors just fine at no penalty. Note that when you specify the room size, impassable grids (walls) flash with a grey 'X', and passable grids (floors and doors) flash with a white 'X'.&lt;br /&gt;
** Alternately, make ''one'' large room, and install every noble there. The quality reduction for overlapping rooms is insignificant compared to the savings over constructing and furnishing a large number of rooms. As a bonus, a single chest, cabinet, armor stand, and weapon rack will count as three of each, for every noble in the room. (This works because most nobles have three rooms; if they see a chest in their bedroom, study, and dining room, they ''obviously'' have three chests, right? Nobody accused the nobles of being particularly bright.) The drawback to this method is that most nobles are happy with &amp;quot;decent&amp;quot; quality rooms or less, and if the king shows up, you must furnish this room to four times the &amp;quot;Royal&amp;quot; quality for it to count as Royal.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Values ===&lt;br /&gt;
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==== The room ====&lt;br /&gt;
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Taken from [http://www.bay12games.com/cgi-local/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&amp;amp;f=2&amp;amp;t=000691 Draxxalon's study.] Each tile touched by the room's designated area adds to its rental cost and quality (as per Room Grades below)&lt;br /&gt;
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{|{|cellpadding=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
! Type !! Rough Floor !! Smooth Floor !! Rough Wall !! Smooth Wall&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Gray rock]] || 1 || 4 || 1 || 5&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Light/dark rock]] || 2 || 14 || 2 || 18&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Obsidian]] || 3 || 21 || 3 || 27&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
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* Double engraving (detailing) of grey rock has a base value of 10. This is multiplied by quality (x1 - x12) in the same way as objects. Note that walls are only detailed on one side (the side that the engraver is on). The values for detailed light and dark stone are unexpected and may be buggy in the current version.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Example: a 3x3 Room&lt;br /&gt;
 XXXXX&lt;br /&gt;
 X...X&lt;br /&gt;
 X...X&lt;br /&gt;
 X....&lt;br /&gt;
 XXXXX&lt;br /&gt;
As you need to knock out one bit of wall for the entrance, a 3x3 room has ten floor and 11 wall tiles (the corners are inacessible and don't count). That makes a basic value of 22. When smoothed, it will score ((10 * 4) + (11 * 5)) = 95, assuming it's all grey rock.&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Furniture ====&lt;br /&gt;
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All standard funiture (Beds, Coffers, Weapon Racks, ...) has a basic value of 10. For puposes of room value, doors are just another bit of furniture. This is multiplied by [[Material Values]] and [[Item Quality]]. A * Marble Door* , for example, is worth 10 (door) * 2 (marble) * 4 (* superior quality* ) = 80 points. It's easy to see that adding just some quality funiture will increase a room's value quite a bit. The floor space that the furniture is standing on still counts.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Windows, no matter how valueable, don't add to room cost.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Statues (basic value 25) do not block the tile they're standing on, but the wall they're standing in front of is rendered inacessible and hence no longer contributes to room value.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Specific room quality grades ===&lt;br /&gt;
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The grades of quality of rooms are as follows. These quality grades only apply to bedrooms, dining rooms, offices, and tombs. Unless noted otherwise, the title listed will be used for all room types: for instance, a Meager office is just that: a Meager Office. Bedrooms are referred to in-game as &amp;quot;quarters&amp;quot;: a Fine bedroom will be called &amp;quot;Fine Quarters&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Meager ====&lt;br /&gt;
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Rent Price: 1 - 99&lt;br /&gt;
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A meager tomb is called a ''Grave''.&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Modest ====&lt;br /&gt;
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Rent Price: 100 - 249&lt;br /&gt;
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Examples:&lt;br /&gt;
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* a 3x2 room with one or two masterpieces in it.&lt;br /&gt;
* a 3x2 room, smoothed wall and floors, half-decent furniture (+ or * ). &lt;br /&gt;
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A modest tomb is called a ''Servant's Burial Chamber''.&lt;br /&gt;
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==== No adjective (plain room) ====&lt;br /&gt;
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Rent Value: 250 - 499&lt;br /&gt;
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A plain room can still be small:&lt;br /&gt;
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* 3x2, smooth walls, two or more excellent pieces of furniture. &lt;br /&gt;
* A 3x3 room single detailed everywhere (with no ore or gems in the walls) with an exceptional (triple bar) door, bed, cabinet, coffer, weapon rack and armor stand. (rent 395)&lt;br /&gt;
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A plain tomb is called a ''Burial Chamber''.&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Decent ====&lt;br /&gt;
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Rent Value: 500-999&lt;br /&gt;
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A decent tomb is called a ''Tomb''.&lt;br /&gt;
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Example:&lt;br /&gt;
* A 3x3 room single detailed everywhere (with no ore or gems in the walls) with a masterpiece door, bed, cabinet, coffer, weapon rack, and armor stand. (rent 815)&lt;br /&gt;
* A 5x5 room, double detailed floor, good quality furniture.&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Fine ====&lt;br /&gt;
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Rent Value: 1000-1499 &lt;br /&gt;
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A fine tomb is, surprisingly enough, called a ''Fine Tomb'', and a fine office is called a ''Splendid Office''.&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Great ====&lt;br /&gt;
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Rent Price: 1500 - 2499&lt;br /&gt;
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A great tomb is called a ''Mausoleum'', and a great office is called a ''Throne Room''.&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Grand ====&lt;br /&gt;
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Rent Price: 2500 - 9999&lt;br /&gt;
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A grand tomb is called a ''Grand Mausoleum'', and a grand office is called an ''Opulent Throne Room''.&lt;br /&gt;
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* A 6* 6 room with smoothed walls, engraved floors and three exceptional pieces of furniture.&lt;br /&gt;
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* A 3* 13 room with smoothed walls, engraved floors, six exceptional pieces of furniture and one masterful piece.&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Royal ====&lt;br /&gt;
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Rent Price: 10000+&lt;br /&gt;
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A doubly-detailed, heavily furnished 20x20 Dining Room topped out as Royal. You can get a lesser room there with the invaluable aid of masterpiece furniture or engravings. Note that the fastest way to get a Royal room is to stuff it full of platinum statues; 10 basic-quality platinum statues makes a Royal room.&lt;br /&gt;
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A royal tomb is called a ''Royal Mausoleum'', and a royal office is called a ''Royal Throne Room''.&lt;br /&gt;
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Royal is the highest-quality room grade.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Rooms]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>BurnedToast</name></author>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d_Talk:Elephant&amp;diff=849</id>
		<title>40d Talk:Elephant</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d_Talk:Elephant&amp;diff=849"/>
		<updated>2007-10-31T06:55:04Z</updated>

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&lt;div&gt;I changed the line about cave features, but left the rest alone. Are there any other parts that are no longer accurate in this version?--[[User:BahamutZERO|BahamutZERO]] 15:07, 29 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Someone told me that Toady mentioned he had toned down the elephant aggressivness in one of his daily dev posts, does anyone know anything more about that? I don't want to end up having put up a completely out-of-date article. :P --[[User:BahamutZERO|BahamutZERO]] 15:58, 29 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Elephants seem totally non-agressive now, I don't know if they even defend themselves when attacked. I had a dwarven caravan guard slaughter 3 of them without a single wound, all the elephants did was run even when the dwarf was right next to them.  Of course, the dwarf guards have steel instead of iron now, but still, I think elephants are no longer a real threat. --[[User:BurnedToast|BurnedToast]] 02:55, 31 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>BurnedToast</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d_Talk:Record_keeper&amp;diff=7341</id>
		<title>40d Talk:Record keeper</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d_Talk:Record_keeper&amp;diff=7341"/>
		<updated>2007-10-31T02:01:12Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;BurnedToast: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;If the bookkeepers skill is record keeper skill is lower or higher, how does it affect gameplay? -- [[User:Bovinepro|Bovinepro]]&lt;br /&gt;
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It is my guess that the bookkeeper will spend less time updating the stocks list.--[[User:Karlito|Karlito]] 20:30, 30 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You can check on the settings screen for the bookkeeper how far done he is updating. Higher skill makes him update alot faster. I suspect he will have to update more then once, either over time or as you add more things, but so far in my small fort once updated to full it's stayed there. --[[User:BurnedToast|BurnedToast]] 22:01, 30 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>BurnedToast</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d_Talk:Record_keeper&amp;diff=7340</id>
		<title>40d Talk:Record keeper</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d_Talk:Record_keeper&amp;diff=7340"/>
		<updated>2007-10-31T02:01:01Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;BurnedToast: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;If the bookkeepers skill is record keeper skill is lower or higher, how does it affect gameplay? -- [[User:Bovinepro|Bovinepro]]&lt;br /&gt;
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It is my guess that the bookkeeper will spend less time updating the stocks list.--[[User:Karlito|Karlito]] 20:30, 30 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You can check on the settings screen for the bookkeeper how far done he is updating. Higher skill makes him update alot faster. I suspect he will have to update more then once, either over time or as you add more things, but so far in my small fort once updated to full it's stayed there.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>BurnedToast</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d_Talk:Engraving&amp;diff=4906</id>
		<title>40d Talk:Engraving</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d_Talk:Engraving&amp;diff=4906"/>
		<updated>2007-10-30T07:49:42Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;BurnedToast: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;I started a general page on engraving, mostly to point out that it appears possible to smooth tiles containing ore, since they have been placed in the category of stone now.  Haven't tried it on gems, but I'm quite giddy about being able to make an aesthetically pleasing fortress in the middle of an ore vein finally.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, ore is now exactly the same as regular stone, so it can be smoothed just fine. Make for MUCH nicer fort designs then before. I am not 100% sure but I think gems work the same way too. --[[User:BurnedToast|BurnedToast]] 03:49, 30 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>BurnedToast</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d_Talk:Cave-in&amp;diff=3876</id>
		<title>40d Talk:Cave-in</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d_Talk:Cave-in&amp;diff=3876"/>
		<updated>2007-10-30T04:33:34Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;BurnedToast: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Is this still valid? I recall that only truly disconnected areas cave in these days...&lt;br /&gt;
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Yeah, this is what I've heard.  I'm digging out a bunch of greater than 7x7 rooms now so we'll find out shortly.&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Karlito|Karlito]] 00:26, 30 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I've dug out some big rooms (10x10 I think is the biggest so far) and not had a cave-in for a season or so. I'm thinking it only does it on disconnects. makes it ALOT easier to plan your fort out. --[[User:BurnedToast|BurnedToast]] 00:33, 30 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>BurnedToast</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d_Talk:Economic_stone&amp;diff=3373</id>
		<title>40d Talk:Economic stone</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d_Talk:Economic_stone&amp;diff=3373"/>
		<updated>2007-10-30T04:11:37Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;BurnedToast: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;This was vital knowledge for me to figure out: I started on a marble plateau (which despite the designation of &amp;quot;Heavily Forested&amp;quot; had NO TREES!!! I must have messed something up in the starting locale...) and had to undesignate marble as a flux in order to build anything.&lt;br /&gt;
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:That's funny.  I started on a volcano and had no trouble whatsoever building stuff out of obsidian.  Is obsidian not economic? --[[User:Peristarkawan|Peristarkawan]] 23:42, 29 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Apparently not! I'll have to build a workshop and see if we can still build dark stone short swords? --[[User:Alfador|Alfador]] 23:49, 29 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I too started in a 'heavily forested' area, which looked like trees on the map, and had not a single tree in sight on any of the z-levels. I don't know if it's a bug or if I managed to snag a part that had no trees (I picked the smallest start size possible to minimize lag). --[[User:BurnedToast|BurnedToast]] 00:11, 30 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>BurnedToast</name></author>
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