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Bsod.phantom: changed text from "z-stocks" to "k-stocks" in second paragraph to reflect new key combination

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:''In Dwarf Fortress, [[bituminous coal]] is not the same as "coal" – see that article if desired.''

[[File:coal_sprite_preview.png|right]]'''Fuel''', '''coal''', and '''refined coal''' are three in-game terms that refer to the same thing, any unit of '''charcoal''' or '''coke''', the two fuels used to power high-temperature industries, namely metalworking, glassworking, and [[pottery]]. One unit of either of these fuels is required for every task at a conventional (non-magma) [[smelter]], [[forge]], [[kiln]], or [[glass furnace]]. Magma versions of these facilities do not need fuel, and in fact ''cannot'' use conventional fuel to power them, if their magma sources fail. Fuel is also used as a reactant in the pig iron and steel creation process ''(see [[#Pig iron and steel production|below]])''.

Both "charcoal" and "coke" are considered [[bar]]s; they are found under the "bars" section of the [[stocks|k-stocks]] menu, stored in Bar/Block [[stockpile]]s, and can be used to build [[vertical bars]]. To place bars of fuel in a stockpile, create a Bars/Blocks stockpile, or a [[Stockpile#Custom_stockpiles|custom stockpile]] with "coal" (found in the "Bars" sub-category) {{k|e}}nabled and {{k|p}}ermitted. To allow ''only'' coal in a stockpile, {{k|e}}nable "Bars/Blocks", {{k|b}}lock everything, and enable "Bars: Other Materials → Coal" (with {{k|Enter}}). There is currently no way to distinguish between "charcoal" and "coke" when designating stockpiles.
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* [[Material value]] 2
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* [[Ignition point]] {{ct|11440}}
* [[Melting point]] None
* [[Boiling point]] None
* [[Solid density]] 1346
* [[Specific heat]] 409
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== Fuel: charcoal and coke ==
The two types of fuel are '''''charcoal''''' and '''''coke''''' – both are "fuel". These are ''nearly identical'' for in-game purposes, even though they come from different sources and have different in-game names. Whenever you see "fuel", "refined coal" or "coal" in-game, those refer to ''either'' charcoal or coke – they are interchangeable, and either one will serve as fuel for any workshop activity. Since some understandable confusion can arise over the usage of the various terms for fuel, the simple umbrella term "fuel" will be used in the explanations in this article.

At the risk of repetition, but to be perfectly clear – ''despite the different names, there is no distinction between charcoal and coke for any workshop-related activities.'' Both are "refined coal" or "coal", or just "fuel". '''The only actual difference''' between charcoal and coke has to do with [[Elf|Elven]] traders – trading them charcoal will offend them, but coke will not.

== Creating fuel ==
{{main|Fuel industry}}

[[Wood]] does not burn hot enough for use as fuel, and (in ''Dwarf Fortress'') raw [[bituminous coal]] and [[lignite]], though flammable, are not directly usable as fuel. Both can, however, be converted to fuel using different processes:

=== Charcoal, from wood===
Charcoal is created at a [[wood furnace]] from [[wood]] logs by a [[dwarf]] with the [[Wood burner|Wood burning]] [[labor]] enabled. One log produces one bar of charcoal; [[Skill|skill levels]] in [[Wood burner]] reduce the time required for this activity, but do not affect the results.

:* Required Building – [[Wood furnace]]
:* Required Labor enabled – [[Wood burning]]
:* Required Material – [[Wood]]

===Coke, from bituminous coal or lignite===
Coke is a type of refined coal created at a [[smelter]] from either [[bituminous coal]] or [[lignite]] (producing either 9 or 5 coke, respectively) by a [[dwarf]] with the [[Furnace operating]] labor enabled. [[skill|Skill levels]] in [[furnace operator]] reduce the time required for this activity, but do not affect the result.

At a conventional smelter, one bar of fuel is required to perform this reaction, effectively reducing the net yield by one bar.

:*Required Building – [[Smelter]] or [[Magma smelter]]
:*Required Labor enabled – [[Furnace operating]]
:*Required Material – [[Bituminous coal]] or [[lignite]]
:*Required Fuel – one unit of fuel per job at a conventional smelter

[[Block]]s of bituminous coal and lignite (sometimes offered by [[trader]]s) can neither be used as fuel nor converted into fuel in any way. They can only be used for standard block purposes – though they are, of course, ''not'' [[fire-safe]]!

Because you need fuel in order to refine coke at a standard smelter, you may need to create at least one unit of charcoal at a Wood Burner first, [[trade|import]] a bar of fuel, or skip directly to [[#Magma facilities|magma power]].

==Error messages==
At a conventional (non-magma) [[smelter]], if you try to add a smelting task and have no fuel, you will see the message:

<diagram fg="white">
No tasks available
Check for raw material access
and fuel if necessary
</diagram>
:''(Note that this message will also be seen if there is no [[path]] to your workshop or needed materials, including fuel, or if the necessary materials aren't in any linked [[stockpile]]s.)''

You will not be allowed to add any tasks to any conventional smelter until that workshop has access to at least one unit of either charcoal or coke. (However, if you have just one bar of un-used fuel, you can queue up as many jobs as you want – see next.)

If you have queued up multiple tasks and then run out of fuel, you will get an [[announcement]] similar to:

<blockquote>"'''[[Main:Urist|Urist McFuelUser]] cancels job: needs refined coal.'''"</blockquote>

Note that a forge or glass furnace ''will'' let you add tasks if you have no fuel, and only once a dwarf arrives and finds they cannot complete that task will you get the announcement to that effect. You will get one announcement for each un-fueled task that is unable to be completed. Jobs are canceled when there is no fuel.

When you get either of these messages, you need more fuel – either charcoal or coke will serve equally well.

== Magma facilities ==
Magma replaces conventional fuel for [[magma smelter]]s, [[magma forge]]s, [[magma kiln]]s and [[magma glass furnace]]s. No fuel is needed, nor can it be used, for activities at these facilities. Note that you will still need charcoal or coke as a reactant for smelting bars of [[pig iron]] and [[steel]]. (And see next section.)

== Pig iron and steel production ==
When [[smelting]] [[pig iron]] or [[steel]] at any location, one unit of either charcoal or coke is required in the reaction as a source of carbon. Again, there is no distinction – both charcoal and coke serve equally well in the production of [[bar]]s of either. This is in addition to the unit of fuel that is needed to power the furnace at conventional (non-magma) smelters.

==See also==
:* [[Smelting]]
:* [[Fuel industry]]

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User talk:Bsod.phantom

2012-10-04T04:21:33Z

Bsod.phantom:

== [[DF2012:Container]] ==
:"Only chests, coffers, bags, and boxes are explicitly called "container" in game as they can be placed as furniture by building (any of these 4 container types can be used to satisfy the "Needs: X Chests" requirement for nobles)."

Hey there, welcome to the wiki! I just wanted to point out that the above list does not contain "cabinets", which is why you couldn't use cabinets to meet your Mayor's requirement. I most often use rock coffers to keep my nobles happy when they need chests, since rock is so abundant (or glass boxes, if I have sand and magma, since then nothing is consumed). I hope this helps. Enjoy dwarf fortress, and let me know if you have any questions :) --[[User:Timrem|timrem]] 04:06, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Doh! Reading comprehension for the win. Thanks for the correction and thanks for the welcome! [[User:Bsod.phantom|Bsod.phantom]] 04:21, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

User talk:Emi

2012-10-04T03:18:23Z

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== Empty DF:2012 Articles ==

Hello, I'd like to offer a few suggestions:
* Could the bot which went through and replaced all the v0.31 article links with DF:2012 links be modified to actually create those articles with a <nowiki>{{av}}</nowiki> template inserted, so that users can reference an older version easily while understanding that it could be outdated?
* Could a bot be created to go through all the current dead links and create those articles and place a <nowiki>{{av}}</nowiki> template within them?
* Failing that, I'd be willing to volunteer for this; I understand that I should talk to you for article creation. In that case, would I have to present you with a list of articles to be created?
--[[User:Reilwin|Reilwin]] 02:53, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

:Looks like I can create articles myself after enough edits. --[[User:Reilwin|Reilwin]] 06:35, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

== Spanish translation ==

Hello! I'm a Spanish player of this game and I would like to begin the translation of this wiki into Spanish. I hope you like the idea! Regards.

== PROBLEM ==
since you "upgraded" the wiki, sometimes when i try to load a page, any kind of page in the wiki, instead of loading the page, my browser (chrome) starts downloading a file like this: DF2010-Magma.gz
the file never ends downloading and it contains nothing, so i dont know whats the deal with that, sometime is loads teh page as usual
*Take a look at [http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=96229.0 this forum thread] - most cases seem to result from using Avast Antivirus along with Google Chrome. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 00:38, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

== Upload Button Missing ==
Hello. I've uploaded [[http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/File:DA_Quarters.JPG,stuff]] before, but the upload link seems to have vanished for me. (I'd like to upload a small .exe file which makes the depot tradeing semi-automated so I can link to it from my user page.) What should I do?

Thanks,
--[[User:DDR|-DDR]] 01:28, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Update: Oh, so it's just down for a few days? OK, I'll be patient. Thanks for all the work you've done here, Emi. :)

== Eagles ==

Why can't I create new pages? I want to create a page about normal eagles.

: This wiki is going through a lot now. New name space for the latest DF version has been created and articles are copied to it, as far as they are still valid for the new version. Also this wiki's cluster size has been increased by two new servers and many things around it are being configured. So I think the admins just prohibited new article creation for a while until they sort things out. --[[User:Nagidal|Nagidal]] 17:31, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

: I've seen Briss has created the Eagle page, maybe it's so that you can fill it with content. --[[User:Nagidal|Nagidal]] 18:50, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

== a namespace just for me? ==

It says that if i'd like a user page i should post here asking for one.
can i have a namespace for me please? under Zazq? [[User:Zazq|Zazq]] 21:48, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

: A namespace is not the same as a user page. I'm almost sure you can't have a namespace just for you, but you can certainly have your own userpage where you can set up your own sandbox. I have created you your userpage, just click on the link on your name in the signature. You can start forging some good articles on your userpage. --[[User:Nagidal|Nagidal]] 23:46, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

== UserPage ==
could i have a page too? to edit and try stuff before posting ... Edit: it is Mohreb by the way ...

I'd like a user page too, name KevinFragger2427. Thanks.

== v34 Utilities ==

Can we get a [[DF2012:Utilities]] page created?

== Giant sponges ==

Hello, I am new to this wiki and I would like to add articles for giant sponges and giant mosquitoes.

I trust I can just copy-paste the old tags from a DF2010 creature page and change them accordyingly ?

[[User:Naryar|Naryar]] 11:28, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

== Can I have two pages created? ==

I'd like to have two pages created for me, please.

1. I'd like my user-page created, so I can do all the other cool stuff that people do with their user-pages.

2. I would also like a whole new mod article made, please. Title it "Modern Warfare: Year 2100" too, please, as well.

EDIT: Username is UristMcHuman. Sorry I forgot that

== Interactions. ==

I would like a page created under 2012:Interaction, please and thank you. [[User:Lofn|Lofn]] 15:54, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
EDIT: a userpage/sandbox would also be very much appreciated, if you find the time.

== User page for Darchitect. ==

I'd like one, if you'd be so kind.
[[User:Darchitect|Darchitect]] 20:24, 29 February 2012 (UTC)Darchitect

== Favicon Recovery ==

I notice the favicon seems to have gotten lost somewhere along the way. Since I'm the one who initially made it using the main site logo for reference, I still have a copy sitting around. [http://dffd.wimbli.com/images/dfwiki_favicon.ico Here it is, feel free to use it again.]

== Request for User Page ==

Hi there, can you please add a user page for me? Thank you. [[User:Timtek|Timtek]] 11:47, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

== Request for Confirmed User ==

I was wondering what I need to do to be able to upload a file. I registered four days ago, and have been waiting to become an "Autoconfirmed user" so that I can add my tileset to the Tileset repository. The "autoconfirmation" never comes, however. Attempting to google the issue said that I should be autoconfirmed after 3 days, which has not occurred. Am I missing something? --[[User:Taffer|Taffer]] 13:10, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

Hello again! Thanks for the help earlier, and sorry for the second message. Would it be alright if I have a user page? Thank you! --[[User:Taffer|Taffer]] 18:51, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

== Cached Special Pages ==

The wiki currently has [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgMiserMode $wgMiserMode] enabled, resulting in a number of [[Special:SpecialPages|special pages]] having their results cached (by MediaWiki itself) to reduce server load, but there's no cron job to run /maintenance/updateSpecialPages.php and actually update those pages - as a result, they're all 3 months out of date. I've mentioned this at least 3 times on IRC but it still hasn't been fixed. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 20:24, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

== Is the DF2012:Creatures page getting too big for the server? ==

The Creatures page still needs to be updated with the new creatures for the lakes/rivers but when I try to submit or preview tha page I get a blank page and a submitted update is not visible on the page. Is the page simply too big now, or is there some server side changes that can be made to fix this? [[User:Organised chaos|Organised chaos]] 20:18, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
*If you ask me, the Creatures page is currently being done '''all wrong''' - it should only list each creature '''once''' and include the relevant biomes, rather than copy/pasting it for every single biome (and introducing errors when one entry has different values from the others). --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 21:00, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

== DFRawFunctions ==

I've got an update for DFRawFunctions (corrects behavior for a few functions and adds new features to some others) which also includes a few new raw files - when you've got a chance, pull 'em from github. In fact, some option to automatically pull updates from github either periodically (once or twice a day) or on demand (e.g. editing a particular wiki page) would be really nice so I won't have to bug you about it. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 18:27, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

== I want to make Korean Wiki. ==

I was looking for administrator to discuss this, but I couldn't find anyone... also, I'm not sure that I should talk it to you. anyway, I leave this here.

I want to make Korean Wiki, There're some Korean fan, but they hardly play the game because of the lack of game information. So I thought They need wiki to know the game. I want to know whether the administrator can found Korean version of this wiki or not.

How can I get the permission about it? Is it needed that something to verify myself to them? I hope I would take a positive answer. --[[User:Tragal|Tragal]] 14:44, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

== Create Redir [[DF2012:Well_guide]] ==

Need a redir or crosslink created from: [[DF2012:Well_guide]] (empty page) -> [[v0.31:Well_guide]]. And/or snap relevant links. --[[User:Kim Bruning|Kim Bruning]] 08:37, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

== Froot wants a userpage too. ==

Hey-lo.
Yet another userpage request.
[[User:Froot|Froot]] 02:08, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

there is no "DF2012 Talk:Cave crocodile", added an my issue about my "Bosa, Cave Crocodile (+trained+)" which cost me about an game-hour lost due to reloading save in the article. Wonder, why there is no "talk" pages for everything by default? There are many cases which need some science before editing articles :(

== Minecarts 101 page? ==

Can we get a "Minecarts 101" page started the same way there are intro pages for things like the military?

Thanks,

[[User:Dhokarena56|Dhokarena56]] 17:25, 14 May 2012 (UTC)dhokarena56

== Page request ==

May I request a userpage?

-Erich

== User page request ==

Hello! I am requesting a userpage. --[[User:Spacer|Spacer]] 15:31, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

== DF2012_Talk:Siege ==

please, create http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2012_Talk:Siege

thanks,

[[User:Kartofius al andalus|Kartofius al andalus]] 17:00, 4 June 2012 (UTC) kartofius

== Wiki in spanish??? ==

How can I create a page for the wiki in spanish?

== add #dwarffortress irc.freenode.net to main page IRC section ==

Hello everyone, could you please add #dwarffortress IRC channel on FReeNode in the main page IRC channel list?
Thank you

== new user page request ==

looking for a user page so I can store my scripts in the wiki.

thanks
vjek

[[User:Vjek|Vjek]] 20:17, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

== new page request ==
Hi
could you add a talk page at the "raw adamantine" article
user: grafsnow

== DF2012:World rejection ==

Hi, I'm trying to write the page for DF2012:World rejection http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2012:World_rejection which has a red link on the Advanced World Generation page but I can't create a new page. Do I need somebody to make it for me? Thanks, Seb. --[[User:SAFry|SAFry]] 19:08, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
:I created it for him. -- [[User:HiEv|Hi]][[User talk:HiEv|Ev]] 02:18, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

== Could I get a page for my mod? ==

I'm currently working on a mod, and I'd really like a page where I can put what the mod is, how you use it, what it includes, etc...
I'm sorry if it looks kinda sketchy that I just created this account today and I'm being vague about the mod Dx
Anyways, if/when you create it, could you title it ''PlayableCiv+''
Thanks:)
[[User:Toxicshadow|Toxicshadow]] 05:30, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

== Arms Industry Page ==

Could you create an "Arms Industry" page for information concerning production of weapons? Alternatively, it could be called "Weapons Industry."

== User Page ==

Would be very glad if i had a user page as a kind of sandbox (and to put some !!science!! stuff up there) [[User:Lorb|Lorb]] 09:53, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

== User Page Request ==

Could you make me a user page?

== Requesting Page Creation for 'Fixed Creatures' ==

There has been some discussion on r/DwarfFortress ([http://www.reddit.com/r/dwarffortress/comments/w8ht8/need_help_my_giant_black_mambas_wont_breed/]) about animals that don't lay eggs that should, eggs that don't hatch due to a missing Tag, and other various issues. I would like to create a space where we can create a list of animals with the values and tags modified to be more accurate. Thanks!--Dragoon209

Edit: I haven't received any word that the pages have been created, and a quick search shows no matches for 'Fixed Creatures'. Is there any information I am missing to start the process? Thanks in advance!
[[User:Dragoon209|Dragoon209]] 18:19, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

: What page titlewould you like? --[[User:Briess|Briess]] 18:26, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

:: How about "DF2012:Fixed_Creature_RAWs"? [[User:Dragoon209|Dragoon209]] 18:34, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

== Outpost Liason ==

I am simply looking for more information about a phenomenon that has happened twice now. An outpost liason came to my fort and asked if I wanted to join their colony. What are the pros and cons of saying either yes or no? Please help!

== Yet Another User Page ==

Just requesting a user page created, to play around in and post some of my own DF-related stuff. Thanks! [[User:MasterShizzle|MasterShizzle]] 17:59, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
:Umm... wow. That was fast! You guys are awesome. [[User:MasterShizzle|MasterShizzle]] 18:12, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

== Symbol Sets (Modding) ==

Can someone create a page for Symbol Sets, as used in Entity files, and found in language_SYM.txt?
[[User:Toxicshadow|Toxicshadow]] 23:32, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

== 2012 Talk:Door ==

Hi Emily,

I'd like to start [[DF2012 Talk:Door]], since I can verify that artifact doors are indestructible. (There is a verify tag for that in the [[DF2012:Door#Notes]] section.) Here is the text I want to add:

<blockquote>
I can verify that artifact doors are indestructible. An artifact door is all that stands between my necropolis fortress (some 100 casualties in the previous siege) and 8 trolls standing right outside the door. The trolls have been there for an entire season. They showed up when the elven caravan arrived in spring, and are still there to greet the human caravan which just arrived.
</blockquote>

[[User:Great Cthulhu|Great Cthulhu]] 23:13, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

== Need 2 pages created ==

I would like to have my user page created, furthermore i would like to help improve the DF2012 Contaminant page,
and i need the DF2012 Talk:Contaminant created. 
[[User:Ipsin|Ipsin - Everything is better with magma ]] 16:06, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

== User page request ==

Hello there! I am writing this to request the a user page (obviously :)) I'm a confirmed user, although I have less than 10 edits so far, I swear I am not a bot! I am actually more interested in the user page as a personal sandbox of the moment to figure out name space templates and the like without messing anything up. I use the wiki daily (I have only been playing for a few months, you guys were a life saver) so I am still going through plenty of articles all the time and would like to contribute more than I am able to now. I learn by doing and don't want to mess up any templates or the like :)

Thanks very much for any help you are able to provide
--
[[User:Phage|Phage]] 05:45, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

== New User Page Request ==

Howdy, looking to get page for my user account.

Let me know if you need any additional info.

Thanks,

[[User:WhiskeyTangoFox|WhiskeyTangoFox]] 01:44, 30 July 2012 (UTC)WhiskeyTangoFox

== Permission to make new Discussion pages? ==

Hi Emi. I was trying to start a Discussion page in the "Sedimentary" article, but ran into a permission error. Since I am a longtime user, may I please have permission to make new pages? [[User:Coaldiamond|-Coaldiamond]] 20:00, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
:It seems like the wiki is a bit buggy in this regard. On [[Special:ListGroupRights]], only Administrators have the "createtalk" permission, which seems to be required to create talk pages. However, I was just able to create [[DF2012 Talk:Sedimentary layer]], but only after several attempts failing from a Permission error. Sometimes it would stop me immediately upon clicking the "Create" tab, and it always seemed to happen when I tried to Show Changes. I'm not really sure why this would happen, unless we're running on multiple servers and the configuration isn't synchronized. Hope this helps. --[[User:Timrem|timrem]] 21:26, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
:i just encoutered this problem today, I thought it'd be prohibited to create a user discussion page but that did not make sense to me. I hope this issue will be resolved soon. --[[User:Nagidal|Nagidal]] 07:28, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
::Yup, I too have noticed some odd inconsistency in the way the wiki may or may not allow you to create a page, with it being allowed after some N number of page reloads. I've mentioned on the [[Dwarf Fortress Wiki:Improvement Drive]] page that the wiki software is several versions out of date, so if we could get it updated, that would hopefully fix this problem. Is [[User_talk:Briess|Briess]] the correct person to contact about this, or is it someone else? -- [[User:HiEv|Hi]][[User talk:HiEv|Ev]] 22:48, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
:::A user will be unable to create any pages (talk or otherwise) until they make 10 edits to the wiki. There was a configuration error with one of the web servers that has been fixed which was denying create talk page rights to all users. --[[User:Briess|Briess]] 23:46, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

== Another User Page. ==

Just here to request permission to edit my own user-page, let me know if any sort of information is needed from me first in regards to it. --[[User:Morekouto|Morekouto]] 17:29, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

== Stockpile setting info ==

Here's something I've been thinking to add to the wiki for a couple of months now, but am not really sure what would be the best way to do it. I often set up fairly specialized stockpiles. For instance a stockpile only for seeds, another one for picks, and yet another only for empty bags (but not chests). When I was new to the game I did not know how to do these things. I expected to find the info how to set up a stockpile just for one kind of an item in the item's respective wiki page. Sometimes I was lucky, sometimes not.

Most furnitures have a piece of text about such stockpile setting somewhere in the article or at least a hint, e.g. in [[Cage]]s you can read that "Cages are stored on the Animal Stockpile." In [[Seed]]s, however, there's nothing that tells you that they are in the Food stockpile, and the [[Pick]] page redirects to [[Equipment]] which doesn't say anything about a stockpile for picks either.

Let's see an example of a stockpile setting info I'd like to see about bags:

: Stockpile of Bags: Furniture > Types > boxes and bags. Disable Stone/Clay and Metal. Restrict Other Materials to cloth, leather, silk, yarn."

I'll probably find a better way to express it, I'll have to see that it looks more or less the same across wiki pages, too.

Three ways how to add this information to the wiki came to my mind, all have their pros and cons:

: '''1.''' A stockpile setting overview page. Basically a table of all the stockpile categories, subcategories, and item entries from the stockpile setting page ({{k|p}}-{{k|t}}) and tell the users to find (Ctrl-F) the item somewhere on the page.
:: '''Pro:''' Done quickly.
:: '''Con:''' I assume people would rather expect to find the stockpile setting info in the item's dedicated page and would not think of looking for it in a stockpile setting page. Also, users should not be bothered with a search in page.

: '''2.''' Adding a "Stockpile" section to the <nowiki>{{furniture}}</nowiki> float, where people could see how to set it up.
:: '''Pro:''' Stockpile setting would be found extremely easily.
:: '''Con:''' No solution for non-furniture items.
:: '''Con:''' Would contain too much text in some cases (e.g. for bags you need to restrict the material to differentiate them from coffers or chests).

: '''3.''' Each item which can have its individual stockpile could have its own wiki page with a "Stockpile setting" section (or maybe a <nowiki>{{stockpile}}</nowiki> float?) where you could see this kind of information.
:: '''Pro:''' Stockpile setting would be found easily. People would soon realize that every item which can have a dedicated stockpile has its own wiki page which has a section where they find the stockpile setting.
:: '''Con:''' Requires many new pages to be created, but most of them would not contain much other information except for how to set an individual stockpile for them. Here I'm thinking of pages like [[Plump helmet spawn]], [[Hood]], [[Raw skin]].

Personally, I would go with solution '''3'''. I see that it is unnecessary to have an individual wiki page for each of the hundreds of animal species you can see listed in the Animal stockpile. Yet I think we should differentiate all the non-animal items as deep as [[skull]] is in the refuse stockpile, or each individual weapon is in the weapon stockpile.

So what do you guys think? Do you have any other ideas how and where to save this stockpile setting information in the wiki? Would you mind me starting to add a "Stockpile settings" section to the items' pages and creating new pages where there are redirects or no pages? I admit it would look a bit weird if there were a page about an item but no other info on it except for a stockpile setting. On the other hand this could motivate other active users to add something more.

--[[User:Nagidal|Nagidal]] 10:56, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

: I think a combination of 1 and 3 is a good approach. But feel free to do whatever you want - it is a wiki after all. :) -- [[User:Briess|Briess]] 20:31, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

== User Talk page for Kenran ==

Hello! I'd like to have a usable User Talk page, so I could put the stuff on my profile there. I could then add some information about myself and some links on my profile itself. Thanks :)

== YAUPCR ==

Yet Another User Page Creation Request. Thanks in advance! [[User:Urist McDorf|Urist McDorf]] 04:03, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

:Hang on a second, I was able to create my user page myself (by simply clicking on the redlink in my signature, and clicking "edit this page".). Not sure if that's a bug or a feature - perhaps the "page creation permitted after 10 edits" rule applies to user pages too? If so, maybe the banner announcement should note that - at present it sort of implies all new user pages need Emi to create them. [[User:Urist McDorf|Urist McDorf]] 04:19, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

hi Emi, how can i get a user page here

07:23, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[[User:Markus007|Markus007]]Markus

== page request: Noise talk ==

I wish to start a page on Noise, talk page. I believe the 8 tile noise area is ridiculous and should be confirmed. On top, I never found dwarves to be awaken by such a thing. [[User:Discipol|Discipol]] 12:04, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

== User page creation request ==

Hello, please create one for me as well! Thanks, [[User:Waba|Waba]] 04:54, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

== DF2012:Steel discussion page ==

I'd like to (suggest) add to the DF2012:Steel page an actual recipie for repeating steel production at a smelter, since it is not entirely well-described. I'd add it to the Discussion page there if there was one, but there isn't. Can one be created? (making steel at a smelter: Smelt <iron ore>/R, Make Pig Iron Bars/R, Make Steel Bars/R, Make Pig Iron Bars/R, Make Steel Bars/R -=> uses 1 iron ore, 4 flux, 4 or 5 coal to produce 4 Steel bars per cycle) Oh, and if it's not too much trouble, I'd like a User page too. Thanks,
16:45, 20 September 2012 (UTC) jpvlsmv

== Please add user page for me bsod.phantom - thanks ==

Please add user page for me bsod.phantom - thanks
[[User:Bsod.phantom|Bsod.phantom]] 06:08, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

== need discussion page for DF2012:Container ==

This text seems inaccurate with 2012 on the DF2012:Container page: (any of these 4 container types can be used to satisfy the "Needs: X Chests" requirement for nobles).

There is no Discussion page for Containers. I'm a fairly inexperienced player and just got my first Mayor who demanded two chests and a cabinet. Based on the above text I made three rock cabinets and after placing them it did not satisfy the 2 chests requirement. When I made two metal chests and placed them the requirement was met.

Since there's no discussion page, should I just edit the page and remove that line or put a note next to it that says this may not be accurate?

[[User:Bsod.phantom|Bsod.phantom]] 03:18, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

User talk:Emi

2012-10-01T06:08:44Z

Bsod.phantom: /* Please add user page for me bsod.phantom - thanks */ new section

v0.34:Wool

2012-09-24T08:58:58Z

Bsod.phantom: capitalized S of Stocks

{{quality|Fine|[[User:Coaldiamond|-Coaldiamond]] 16:21, 19 April 2011 (UTC)}}{{av}}

'''Wool''' is produced after [[Shearing]] one of a handful of animals, currently [[llama]]s, [[alpaca]]s, [[troll]]s, and [[sheep]]. Animals can eventually be sheared again to produce more wool after some months have passed. It is stored in refuse stockpile under Hair/Wool and appears under [[Body parts]] in the [[Stocks]] menu. Wool can be spun into [[yarn]] [[thread]]s which can then be woven into [[cloth]] at a [[loom]] and be used to create a variety of textile products such as [[bag]]s, [[clothing]], [[rope]]s or [[crafts]]. ''(For a full discussion of the process and possibilities, see [[textile industry]].)''

==See Also==
* [[Textile industry]]

v0.34:Wool

2012-09-24T08:56:52Z

Bsod.phantom: added that wool appears under the body parts heading in the stocks menu

{{quality|Fine|[[User:Coaldiamond|-Coaldiamond]] 16:21, 19 April 2011 (UTC)}}{{av}}

'''Wool''' is produced after [[Shearing]] one of a handful of animals, currently [[llama]]s, [[alpaca]]s, [[troll]]s, and [[sheep]]. Animals can eventually be sheared again to produce more wool after some months have passed. It is stored in refuse stockpile under Hair/Wool and appears under [[Body parts]] in the [[stocks]] menu. Wool can be spun into [[yarn]] [[thread]]s which can then be woven into [[cloth]] at a [[loom]] and be used to create a variety of textile products such as [[bag]]s, [[clothing]], [[rope]]s or [[crafts]]. ''(For a full discussion of the process and possibilities, see [[textile industry]].)''

==See Also==
* [[Textile industry]]