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User talk:Brocolie

2023-03-01T02:09:11Z

Brocolie: /* Expanded vocab */

== Expanded vocab ==

You suggested that the STEAM release has words you weren't able to find listed here. Interesting; can you provide some examples? [[User:Jerimee|Jerimee]] ([[User talk:Jerimee|talk]]) 23:21, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

: hey, I just replied in the discussion thread, it was my bad for not noticing the table of nouns was collapsed. --[[User:Brocolie|Brocolie]] ([[User talk:Brocolie|talk]]) 02:08, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

Talk:Language

2023-03-01T02:07:40Z

Brocolie:

== Count of words ==

I count 2196 as of today. Just what the article says! [[User:Jerimee|Jerimee]] ([[User talk:Jerimee|talk]]) 20:38, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

1736 nouns in my list, not 1738, probably a snafu on my part [[User:Jerimee|Jerimee]] ([[User talk:Jerimee|talk]]) 23:46, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

List was/is missing SUMMER, <strike>SING ("Song")</strike>, and MIGHTINESS. "Might" is english noun version of '''[WORD:MIGHTY].''' "Mightiness" is english noun version of '''[WORD:MIGHTINESS].''' --[[User:Jerimee|Jerimee]] ([[User talk:Jerimee|talk]]) 01:05, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

== The names of the languages ==
I propose naming the languages after their respective word for "language".

Dwarven: Talul
Elven: Yifa
Goblin: Xusplu
Human: Ashthal
--[[User:Guardian of Silverybearded|Guardian of Silverybearded]] ([[User talk:Guardian of Silverybearded|talk]]) 10:40, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

::Neat! [[User:Jerimee|Jerimee]] ([[User talk:Jerimee|talk]]) 01:02, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

==Morphology==

The lack of cognates makes it easier to infer from context the meaning of compound words. A vocabulary set with morphological etymology would be poorly suited to agglutinative compound word building, as similar meaning words would also sound similar.

For example, Lanlarbal means "bird tone" and Lanlarbål means "bird growth." If Bal and Bål were similar meaning words, the compounds Lanlarbal and Lanlarbål could easily be misheard or confused. Bal and Bål are unlikely to be used together in a given context, allowing one to infer which word was used. [[User:Jerimee|Jerimee]] ([[User talk:Jerimee|talk]]) 01:02, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

== Separate vocab ==

The vocabulary section should really be moved to a separate page so that this article is readable. "Data dump" pages should be kept separate from informational pages, imo. —[[User:OddballJoe|OddballJoe]] ([[User talk:OddballJoe|talk]]) 18:59, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
: Yup - the noun table by itself is unwieldy and slow loading. [[User:Jerimee|Jerimee]] ([[User talk:Jerimee|talk]]) 00:02, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

== Expanded vocabulary in the Steam release ==

Hello, I've been noticing that a lot of words can't be found in this list, and many have meanings that are different from those listed here. Maybe these changed for the premium release? If so, what would be the best way to go about it? I was thinking of adding the ones I come across, but it feels like it would be best to data mine them from the game itself.

--[[User:Brocolie|Brocolie]] ([[User talk:Brocolie|talk]]) 21:07, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

: really? I haven't noticed that. Can you give some examples? [[User:Jerimee|Jerimee]] ([[User talk:Jerimee|talk]]) 23:19, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

:: oh... it turns out that my issue was that searching the page with ctrl+f didn't find the words because they were nouns that were hidden/collapsed, so the search didn't find them. I only just noticed it was always the nouns that I wasn't finding >< --[[User:Brocolie|Brocolie]] ([[User talk:Brocolie|talk]]) 02:07, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

Talk:Language

2023-02-28T21:07:24Z

Brocolie: /* Expanded vocabulary in the Steam release */ new section