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File:FlowchartDF.png

2010-08-07T23:38:07Z

Bongotastic: uploaded a new version of "File:FlowchartDF.png": Barrels are there now.

Generic diagram to get a fortress started

File:FlowchartDF.png

2010-08-07T23:30:23Z

Bongotastic: uploaded a new version of "File:FlowchartDF.png": Remove Caravan to Remove Embark Wagon

Generic diagram to get a fortress started

File:FlowchartDF.png

2010-08-07T14:32:33Z

Bongotastic: uploaded a new version of "File:FlowchartDF.png": one links deleted.

Generic diagram to get a fortress started

File:FlowchartDF.png

2010-08-07T14:20:06Z

Bongotastic: uploaded a new version of "File:FlowchartDF.png": Implemented changes from slink form the forum thread.

Generic diagram to get a fortress started

Talk:From Caravan to Happy Dwarves

2010-08-07T12:41:44Z

Bongotastic: Created page with 'I'll work on this a bit more, but I thought that I'd post it here as it can be helpful. --~~~~'

I'll work on this a bit more, but I thought that I'd post it here as it can be helpful. --[[User:Bongotastic|Bongotastic]] 12:41, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

File:FlowchartDF.png

2010-08-07T12:40:07Z

Bongotastic: uploaded a new version of "File:FlowchartDF.png": Make stockpiles pre-requisite to dismantling the caravan.

Generic diagram to get a fortress started

From Caravan to Happy Dwarves

2010-08-07T12:34:42Z

Bongotastic: Created page with '== Using the flowchart == This flowchart is meant to cover the rough steps to go from caravan to a fortress that works well enough to begin focussing on other projects. Begin at …'

== Using the flowchart ==
This flowchart is meant to cover the rough steps to go from caravan to a fortress that works well enough to begin focussing on other projects. Begin at the "Start" node, then consider doing the necessary to head to the next orange milestone. The order is not absolute, and the flowchart doesn't claim to be the best way to do things, but it can be helpful as a non-linear checklist toward your first fortress.

To learn how to do the things in this diagram, use the wiki, trial/error or the forum.

[[File:flowchartDF.png]]

File:FlowchartDF.png

2010-08-07T12:29:40Z

Bongotastic: Generic diagram to get a fortress started

Generic diagram to get a fortress started

Dwarf Fortress Wiki talk:Centralized Discussion

2010-05-27T11:06:23Z

Bongotastic:

== Clarification on "Verification" of content ==
The policy is that all content from 40d must be verified before making it to the 2010 namespace. Whould confirming with the changelog that something hasn't changed be good enough to meet this requirement? If not, does this means that each feature must be tested in game? [[User:bongotastic|bongotastic]] #11:05, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

== Thoughts? ==
Any thoughts on this page? Any potentially useful organizing ideas? [[User:Mason11987|Mason]] ([[User talk:Mason11987|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Mason11987|C]]) 16:58, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
:I think this is a great idea. --[[User:Briess|Briess]] 17:03, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

== Missing discussions? ==
Are there any important discussions I've missed, or anything you'd like to discussion that you'd like a location to discuss? [[User:Mason11987|Mason]] ([[User talk:Mason11987|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Mason11987|C]]) 16:58, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
:Will any articles be pruned away or merged? In the jump from 40D to v31 a lot of articles that used to be served well by tables seem to have become their own articles, which really clutters the place up and scatters information all over unfindably. Stones, ores, and gems are the most obvious, they really only need three tables instead of hundreds of articles. --[[User:Corona688|Corona688]] 19:53, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
::Might I suggest responses go to the just created [[Dwarf Fortress Wiki talk:Article Consolidation|Dwarf Fortress Wiki:Article Consolidation talk page]]. I think this is a big issue worth discussing, and so it deserves to be discussed there. [[User:Mason11987|Mason]] ([[User talk:Mason11987|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Mason11987|C]]) 21:34, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
:I wonder, is there a place here for a Future Versions Ideas page? I have many ideas for things that could be used in future versions of Dwarf Fort, but there's no way to get the word to Toady that I'm aware of, aside from straight e-mailing him...--[[User:Aescula|Aescula]] 20:55, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
::I'm not really sure if the wiki is the right place for something like that. I mostly say that because I don't think that he will look at what we set up for the wiki either. There is a [http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?board=5.0 Suggestions Forum] that seems to be the best place for that kind of thing. I imagine if he looks anywhere he looks there. [[User:Mason11987|Mason]] ([[User talk:Mason11987|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Mason11987|C]]) 19:53, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

== Template madness ==
Okay I was looking at [[DF2010:Native platinum]] and wanted to make the changes but the arrangement of templates make editing the sidebar incredibly complicated even for the fairly good amount of knowledge I have of the wiki.

This really doesn't need to be this complicated. Could someone explain how it works and more importantly why it needs to be so complicated. [[User:Mason11987|Mason]] ([[User talk:Mason11987|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Mason11987|C]]) 21:12, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
:I agree, we need a short tutorial on templates. This is shutting out IPs (and probably the majority of editors) through the backdoor. --[[User:Birthright|Birthright]] 00:32, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
::[http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Template Here] [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Parser_functions you] [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Parser_functions_in_templates go.] [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 14:20, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Right. You make it obvious that excessive use of templates will make the wiki unusable for all but a small aristocracy. Plus we would still need a central place frequently visited by editors that links to those pages. Maybe link to the -still missing- ''short'' tutorial next to every template in the articles? --[[User:Birthright|Birthright]] 20:57, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
::You seem confident that you will get what you want. [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 23:52, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

== Magmawiki skin feedback ==
I just decided to try out the new skin. I am using it for ten minutes and I already can't imagine using anything different, it's great!--[[User:SanDiego|SanDiego]] 13:54, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

== If not consolidation, then what? ==

I don't seem to have a lot of support for article consolidation, and have abruptly been relieved of the time I had to try and help. Fine. I still insist the clutter of pages remains troublesome. Whenever your search is slightly off, instead of returning few to no results, it returns hundreds of irrelevant results. When I search for BODY_SIZE I don't want creature_standard.txt, grimeling size, mud man size, olmman size, fire man size, insert-material-here-man size or anything else's tags, I'm looking for info on the tags themselves. Same when I search "raws", I don't mean those of beetles, whales, walruses, sturgeon, stingray, etc, etc, etc. Redirects won't fix this until we redirect every possible thing that needs to be redirected, at all, ever, but that seems an even more exhaustive task than tables.

Is it possible to prevent the search from indexing these stub articles, or at least giving them less priority? The 'whale' page is going to be irrelevant to anyone not searching for whales... --[[User:Corona688|Corona688]] 17:02, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
:I agree with you that there isn't the support for consolidation. I do understand what you're saying. It seems like there are two possible solutions to your problem.
:*Better organization: This is entirely possible, but very complicated. I've been trying to improve this but it is very difficult. If you don't have the time to work on this and improve it you'll have to rely on my inconsistent free time to make some improvements. If you have some good ideas besides "make it better" I'm all ears.
:*Better search: This is much more difficult, and probably not exactly possible given the extreme constraints that is the mediawiki software. You'd be pleased to know that we ([[User:Briess]] and [[User:Emi]]) are working on developing a new wiki software specifically for DF. Details can be found [[Dwarf_Fortress_Wiki:Magmawiki|here]] and [http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=55613.60 here]. I can only assume that they will make sure to provide improved searching as one of their goals, but if you want to post in the forum thread your wishes that would probably be useful.
:[[User:Mason11987|Mason]] ([[User talk:Mason11987|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Mason11987|C]]) 20:10, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

::Yeah, it's not the wiki that sucks, the search function is limited. You are simply asking too much. --[[User:Birthright|Birthright]] 00:29, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Dwarf Fortress Wiki talk:Centralized Discussion

2010-05-27T11:05:51Z

Bongotastic:

=== Clarification on "Verification" of content ===
The policy is that all content from 40d must be verified before making it to the 2010 namespace. Whould confirming with the changelog that something hasn't changed be good enough to meet this requirement? If not, does this means that each feature must be tested in game? [[User:bongotastic|bongotastic]] #11:05, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

== Thoughts? ==
Any thoughts on this page? Any potentially useful organizing ideas? [[User:Mason11987|Mason]] ([[User talk:Mason11987|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Mason11987|C]]) 16:58, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
:I think this is a great idea. --[[User:Briess|Briess]] 17:03, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

== Missing discussions? ==
Are there any important discussions I've missed, or anything you'd like to discussion that you'd like a location to discuss? [[User:Mason11987|Mason]] ([[User talk:Mason11987|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Mason11987|C]]) 16:58, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
:Will any articles be pruned away or merged? In the jump from 40D to v31 a lot of articles that used to be served well by tables seem to have become their own articles, which really clutters the place up and scatters information all over unfindably. Stones, ores, and gems are the most obvious, they really only need three tables instead of hundreds of articles. --[[User:Corona688|Corona688]] 19:53, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
::Might I suggest responses go to the just created [[Dwarf Fortress Wiki talk:Article Consolidation|Dwarf Fortress Wiki:Article Consolidation talk page]]. I think this is a big issue worth discussing, and so it deserves to be discussed there. [[User:Mason11987|Mason]] ([[User talk:Mason11987|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Mason11987|C]]) 21:34, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
:I wonder, is there a place here for a Future Versions Ideas page? I have many ideas for things that could be used in future versions of Dwarf Fort, but there's no way to get the word to Toady that I'm aware of, aside from straight e-mailing him...--[[User:Aescula|Aescula]] 20:55, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
::I'm not really sure if the wiki is the right place for something like that. I mostly say that because I don't think that he will look at what we set up for the wiki either. There is a [http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?board=5.0 Suggestions Forum] that seems to be the best place for that kind of thing. I imagine if he looks anywhere he looks there. [[User:Mason11987|Mason]] ([[User talk:Mason11987|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Mason11987|C]]) 19:53, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

== Template madness ==
Okay I was looking at [[DF2010:Native platinum]] and wanted to make the changes but the arrangement of templates make editing the sidebar incredibly complicated even for the fairly good amount of knowledge I have of the wiki.

This really doesn't need to be this complicated. Could someone explain how it works and more importantly why it needs to be so complicated. [[User:Mason11987|Mason]] ([[User talk:Mason11987|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Mason11987|C]]) 21:12, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
:I agree, we need a short tutorial on templates. This is shutting out IPs (and probably the majority of editors) through the backdoor. --[[User:Birthright|Birthright]] 00:32, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
::[http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Template Here] [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Parser_functions you] [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Parser_functions_in_templates go.] [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 14:20, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Right. You make it obvious that excessive use of templates will make the wiki unusable for all but a small aristocracy. Plus we would still need a central place frequently visited by editors that links to those pages. Maybe link to the -still missing- ''short'' tutorial next to every template in the articles? --[[User:Birthright|Birthright]] 20:57, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
::You seem confident that you will get what you want. [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 23:52, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

== Magmawiki skin feedback ==
I just decided to try out the new skin. I am using it for ten minutes and I already can't imagine using anything different, it's great!--[[User:SanDiego|SanDiego]] 13:54, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

== If not consolidation, then what? ==

I don't seem to have a lot of support for article consolidation, and have abruptly been relieved of the time I had to try and help. Fine. I still insist the clutter of pages remains troublesome. Whenever your search is slightly off, instead of returning few to no results, it returns hundreds of irrelevant results. When I search for BODY_SIZE I don't want creature_standard.txt, grimeling size, mud man size, olmman size, fire man size, insert-material-here-man size or anything else's tags, I'm looking for info on the tags themselves. Same when I search "raws", I don't mean those of beetles, whales, walruses, sturgeon, stingray, etc, etc, etc. Redirects won't fix this until we redirect every possible thing that needs to be redirected, at all, ever, but that seems an even more exhaustive task than tables.

Is it possible to prevent the search from indexing these stub articles, or at least giving them less priority? The 'whale' page is going to be irrelevant to anyone not searching for whales... --[[User:Corona688|Corona688]] 17:02, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
:I agree with you that there isn't the support for consolidation. I do understand what you're saying. It seems like there are two possible solutions to your problem.
:*Better organization: This is entirely possible, but very complicated. I've been trying to improve this but it is very difficult. If you don't have the time to work on this and improve it you'll have to rely on my inconsistent free time to make some improvements. If you have some good ideas besides "make it better" I'm all ears.
:*Better search: This is much more difficult, and probably not exactly possible given the extreme constraints that is the mediawiki software. You'd be pleased to know that we ([[User:Briess]] and [[User:Emi]]) are working on developing a new wiki software specifically for DF. Details can be found [[Dwarf_Fortress_Wiki:Magmawiki|here]] and [http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=55613.60 here]. I can only assume that they will make sure to provide improved searching as one of their goals, but if you want to post in the forum thread your wishes that would probably be useful.
:[[User:Mason11987|Mason]] ([[User talk:Mason11987|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Mason11987|C]]) 20:10, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

::Yeah, it's not the wiki that sucks, the search function is limited. You are simply asking too much. --[[User:Birthright|Birthright]] 00:29, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

User:Bongotastic

2010-05-27T10:57:33Z

Bongotastic: Created page with 'Eagerly playing DF since January 2010. Wants to give something back through the wiki.'

Eagerly playing DF since January 2010. Wants to give something back through the wiki.

v0.31:Manager

2010-05-27T01:46:13Z

Bongotastic:

{{av}}{{Quality|Fine}}
{{Noble
|noble=Manager
|office=Meager Office
|function = *Allows large production orders
}}

The manager is a {{L|noble}} that allows you to create multiple production orders. Using a manager allow to dispatch rapidly any number of jobs from a single screen, without having to add tasks to individual [[workshop]]s.

= The manager screen =
To use the manager, you must go to the manager screen {{k|u}}{{k|m}} or {{k|j}}{{k|m}}. If your fortress has 20 or more dwarfs the manager will have to approve every work order you set. To see if an order is approved you can check the manager screen. Approved orders will have a green check mark, while unapproved orders will have a red X.

After a production order was approved corresponding tasks will be added automatically to applicable workshops until the production quota has been met. It is useful to note that managers will not allow more than 30 tasks per work order. However, multiple work order can be requested separately with a few key strokes.

= Setting workshop profiles=
The manager also allows you to change a [[workshop]]'s profile. To edit a workshop's profile, select a workshop with {{k|q}} and press {{k|P}}.
The workshop profile will allow you to select which dwarves can use it and the minimum and maximum [[skill]] level required to use the workshop. You can choose who can use the workshop by pressing enter on their name to permit/forbid their use of the workshop.

=The manager needs an office=
It seems that without an office the manager will never approve production requests because he does it only in his office. An office is a must when making work orders with a manager.
{{Nobles}}
{{Category|Appointed Nobles}}

v0.31:Manager

2010-05-27T01:41:13Z

Bongotastic: /* Setting workshop profiles */ Adding intra-wiki links for navigation.

{{av}}{{Quality|Fine}}
{{Noble
|noble=Manager
|office=Meager Office
|function = *Allows large production orders
}}

The manager is a {{L|noble}} that allows you to create multiple production orders. To use the manager, you must go to the manager screen {{k|u}}{{k|m}} or {{k|j}}{{k|m}}. If your fortress has 20 or more dwarfs the manager will have to approve every work order you set. To see if an order is approved you can check the manager screen. Approved orders will have a green check mark, while unapproved orders will have a red X.

After a production order was approved corresponding tasks will be added automatically to applicable workshops until the production quota has been met.

= Setting workshop profiles=
The manager also allows you to change a [[workshop]]'s profile. To edit a workshop's profile, select a workshop with {{k|q}} and press {{k|P}}.
The workshop profile will allow you to select which dwarves can use it and the minimum and maximum [[skill]] level required to use the workshop. You can choose who can use the workshop by pressing enter on their name to permit/forbid their use of the workshop.

=The manager needs an office=
It seems that without an office the manager will never approve production requests because he does it only in his office. An office is a must when making work orders with a manager.
{{Nobles}}
{{Category|Appointed Nobles}}

v0.31:Manager

2010-05-27T01:39:45Z

Bongotastic:

{{av}}{{Quality|Fine}}
{{Noble
|noble=Manager
|office=Meager Office
|function = *Allows large production orders
}}

The manager is a {{L|noble}} that allows you to create multiple production orders. To use the manager, you must go to the manager screen {{k|u}}{{k|m}} or {{k|j}}{{k|m}}. If your fortress has 20 or more dwarfs the manager will have to approve every work order you set. To see if an order is approved you can check the manager screen. Approved orders will have a green check mark, while unapproved orders will have a red X.

After a production order was approved corresponding tasks will be added automatically to applicable workshops until the production quota has been met.

= Setting workshop profiles=
The manager also allows you to change a [workshop]'s profile. To edit a workshop's profile, select a workshop with {{k|q}} and press {{k|P}}.
The workshop profile will allow you to select which dwarves can use it and the minimum and maximum skill level required to use the workshop. You can choose who can use the workshop by pressing enter on their name to permit/forbid their use of the workshop.
=The manager needs an office=
It seems that without an office the manager will never approve production requests because he does it only in his office. An office is a must when making work orders with a manager.
{{Nobles}}
{{Category|Appointed Nobles}}

v0.31:Manager

2010-05-27T01:38:11Z

Bongotastic: /* The manager needs an office= */

{{av}}{{Quality|Fine}}
{{Noble
|noble=Manager
|office=Meager Office
|function = *Allows large production orders
}}

The manager is a {{L|noble}} that allows you to create multiple production orders. To use the manager, you must go to the manager screen {{k|u}}{{k|m}} or {{k|j}}{{k|m}}. If your fortress has 20 or more dwarfs the manager will have to approve every work order you set. To see if an order is approved you can check the manager screen. Approved orders will have a green check mark, while unapproved orders will have a red X.

After a production order was approved corresponding tasks will be added automatically to applicable workshops until the production quota has been met.

The manager also allows you to change a workshop's profile. To edit a workshop's profile, select a workshop with {{k|q}} and press {{k|P}}.
The workshop profile will allow you to select which dwarves can use it and the minimum and maximum skill level required to use the workshop. You can choose who can use the workshop by pressing enter on their name to permit/forbid their use of the workshop.
=The manager needs an office=
It seems that without an office the manager will never approve production requests because he does it only in his office. An office is a must when making work orders with a manager.
{{Nobles}}
{{Category|Appointed Nobles}}

v0.31:Manager

2010-05-27T01:37:50Z

Bongotastic: /* Note to modders */ change heading as it applies to all players, not just modders.

{{av}}{{Quality|Fine}}
{{Noble
|noble=Manager
|office=Meager Office
|function = *Allows large production orders
}}

The manager is a {{L|noble}} that allows you to create multiple production orders. To use the manager, you must go to the manager screen {{k|u}}{{k|m}} or {{k|j}}{{k|m}}. If your fortress has 20 or more dwarfs the manager will have to approve every work order you set. To see if an order is approved you can check the manager screen. Approved orders will have a green check mark, while unapproved orders will have a red X.

After a production order was approved corresponding tasks will be added automatically to applicable workshops until the production quota has been met.

The manager also allows you to change a workshop's profile. To edit a workshop's profile, select a workshop with {{k|q}} and press {{k|P}}.
The workshop profile will allow you to select which dwarves can use it and the minimum and maximum skill level required to use the workshop. You can choose who can use the workshop by pressing enter on their name to permit/forbid their use of the workshop.
=The manager needs an office==
It seems that without an office the manager will never approve production requests because he does it only in his office. An office is a must when making work orders with a manager.
{{Nobles}}
{{Category|Appointed Nobles}}