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v0.31:Cassiterite

2011-03-27T13:17:06Z

Barrel Roll:

{{stonelookup/0}}{{av}}{{Quality|Exceptional}}

{{L|Cassiterite}} is the only {{L|ore}} of {{L|tin}}. This ore can also be smelted with others to create {{L|bronze}}, {{L|trifle pewter}}, and {{L|fine pewter}}.

== Smelting ==
Cassiterite is a required ingredient to make several types of metal alloy bars from ore at a {{L|smelter}}:

* {{L|Tin}} bars
* {{L|Bronze}} bars - with {{L|native copper}}, {{L|malachite}}, or {{L|tetrahedrite}}
* {{L|Trifle pewter}} bars - with {{L|native copper}}, {{L|malachite}} or {{L|tetrahedrite}} ''(takes 2 cassiterite)''
* {{L|Fine pewter}} bars - with {{L|native copper}}, {{L|malachite}} or {{L|tetrahedrite}} ''(takes 3 cassiterite)''

The above can also be made from {{L|bar}}s of {{L|tin}} combined with bars of the appropriate metals. Note that {{L|bismuth bronze}} and {{L|lay pewter}}, both of which require tin, cannot be made directly from cassiterite, but must be made using tin bars.

See {{L|metal}} for a full discussion of formulae and options.

<gallery>
File:Cassiterita.jpeg|Cassiterite, 3-4 cm
File:Cassiterite2bis.jpg|Cassiterite on quartz
File:Prehistoric Times of Bohemia, Moravia and Slovakia - NM Prague 15.JPG|Cassiterite on a rock
</gallery>

{{gamedata}}
{{stones}}
{{Category|Ore}}
{{Category|Economic Stone}}

v0.31:Cassiterite

2011-03-27T13:16:27Z

Barrel Roll:

{{stonelookup/0}}{{av}}{{Quality|Exceptional}}

{{L|Cassiterite}} is the only {{ore}} of {{L|tin}}. This ore can also be smelted with others to create {{L|bronze}}, {{L|trifle pewter}}, and {{L|fine pewter}}.

== Smelting ==
Cassiterite is a required ingredient to make several types of metal alloy bars from ore at a {{L|smelter}}:

* {{L|Tin}} bars
* {{L|Bronze}} bars - with {{L|native copper}}, {{L|malachite}}, or {{L|tetrahedrite}}
* {{L|Trifle pewter}} bars - with {{L|native copper}}, {{L|malachite}} or {{L|tetrahedrite}} ''(takes 2 cassiterite)''
* {{L|Fine pewter}} bars - with {{L|native copper}}, {{L|malachite}} or {{L|tetrahedrite}} ''(takes 3 cassiterite)''

The above can also be made from {{L|bar}}s of {{L|tin}} combined with bars of the appropriate metals. Note that {{L|bismuth bronze}} and {{L|lay pewter}}, both of which require tin, cannot be made directly from cassiterite, but must be made using tin bars.

See {{L|metal}} for a full discussion of formulae and options.

<gallery>
File:Cassiterita.jpeg|Cassiterite, 3-4 cm
File:Cassiterite2bis.jpg|Cassiterite on quartz
File:Prehistoric Times of Bohemia, Moravia and Slovakia - NM Prague 15.JPG|Cassiterite on a rock
</gallery>

{{gamedata}}
{{stones}}
{{Category|Ore}}
{{Category|Economic Stone}}

Dwarf Fortress Wiki:Request for Adminship/Mason11987

2010-03-03T07:02:35Z

Barrel Roll: /* Support */

==Administrator Candidacy Questionnaire==
===Why would I be a good Administrator?===

I understand the wiki system, setting up and manageing templates/categories. I understand the system messages (which sysops have default access to modifying). I ran the sporewiki for a year+ prior to it's launch [http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki] and am still a bureaucrat there even though I haven't edited in a while. I'm also an admin at sagan4wiki, which is a conceptual offshoot inspired by the spore game [http://wiki.mydigiview.com/index.php?title=Main_Page], I didn't create any of the content but the background organization/templates/messages are almost completely my work and the community decided to name the planet's moon after me because of how much I helped :D. I'm also still a sysop at cybernations wiki [http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page] and did a lot of organization there, though I'm inactive in that game/wiki as well now.

Basically, there are a lot of things that can be done to improve a wiki that take a lot of testing and deleting of testing pages, moving over redirects, and modifications to system messages. The people who have admin powers now are awesome "leaders" but without a lot of time describing things that can be done, those sort of changes can't be easily completed.

There are three philosophies for "admins", or sysops which have developed over time on wikipedia.

#People who should get the position are people who deserve to be rewarded for maintenance stuff or content creation stuff
#People who should get the position are people who are good leaders, and should be "in charge"
#People who should get the position are people who could do good without the tools, but who could do more good with them.

I think #1 is unnecessary, assigning sysop as a reward system is not the right thing to do, because it shouldn't be about a "title". This leads nicely into #2, sysops shouldn't be in charge, they should be as accountable as anyone else, and if people think they are doing badly they should remove their power or have it removed. If we need "leaders" they should be bueracrats, and should recognize that the only types of people who get sysop would be #3. #3 is where I think I fall, and I think it makes the most sense. The community at large would be best helped by people contributing exactly as much as they are capable to contribute. I feel that if people can contribute to the wiki more if they could do a couple more things, then they should have it. The key point is that ''most people who are content-creators or typograpical-editors do not need these powers''. This shouldn't make them feel less important, because they aren't. But people shouldn't feel like they are more important just because they have the powers either.

====Supporting Evidence====
*[http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/Special:Contributions/Mason11987 Contributions]. But here are some additional logs of work I've done at other wikis just to make it clear that I am not a person who comes to wikis to screw with them. [http://spore.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=delete&user=Mason11987&page=&year=&month=-1&hide_patrol_log=1], [http://cybernations.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special:Log&user=Mason11987] [http://wiki.mydigiview.com/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&limit=500&target=Mason11987]
*[[DF2010]]

==Public Q&A==
*'''Q''':In the next few months the next version of DF will be released. This will make a lot of information here obsolete. How do you see yourself as an admin dealing with this? --[[User:Kwieland|Kwieland]] 15:55, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
*'''A''': Fantastic question, hopefully [[Dwarf Fortress Wiki:Versions|this]] explains my idea succintcly enough. Basically I propose not only making it up to date as of the new version, but updating the wiki so that obsolete articles are easily identified and organized. [[User:Mason11987|Mason11987]] 20:41, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

*I'm intending to work towards this goal regardless of the outcome of this administration request. And while I don't intend to use my administration in any way to inflate my opinion on what the wiki should do '''at all''' I think the inevitable implentation of large scale projects like this requires a few of the tools that administrators have and I think if I had them I could be a lot more useful. [[User:Mason11987|Mason11987]] 20:41, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

==Public Discussion==
:'''I know that a lot of people don't know me well enough to make a judgement. I respectfully ask that you come back in a month and evaluate again, instead of making an uninformed statement. Also, if others don't mind, I don't care if this stays open until everyone gets enough information to state their opinion.'''

:I think that this RfA thing was setup because of my comments on Briess's pages and yet I'm the only one without any comments --> :(. [[User:Mason11987|Mason11987]] 04:06, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

::I don't know enough about you to form a worthwhile opinion one way or the other. [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 21:52, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

::: PUblic Q&A section? [[User:Mason11987|Mason11987]] 22:19, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

::::That would only tell me how you would answer the questions I aksked you (: [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 22:58, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

==Votes==
===Support===
# '''SUPPORT''': Honestly? You sound like a very knowledgeable person, and experienced. The one and only reason this isn't a "Strong Support" is because of the username. Call me prejudiced, but "Mason11987" is pretty hard to say, and to remember. Especially because I think out every word I read and type in my head, as if spoken. Anyways, still supporting, on merit of knowledge and helpfulness. --[[User:Aescula|Aescula]] 00:44, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
#:Really? Aescula sounds like the hardest name to read out loud I've ever seen. You can just call me "Mason" if you like. Also, I would hope we aren't opponents. In my opinion we're each getting judged independently and if we're all useful as admins I would hope we'd all become one. Also, thanks. :D [[User:Mason11987|Mason11987]] ([[User talk:Mason11987|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Mason11987|C]]) 00:54, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
#::I always pronounced her name "Ayz-cool-ah". Anyhow, I'll happily vote for you once I know just a leetle bit more about ya. Though, again, your name. Eet has too many numbers in eet. --[[User:DarthCloakedDwarf|DarthCloakedDwarf]] 02:44, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
#:::There's no such thing as an "opponent" in these votes, your RfA stands on entirely its own merits and is either passed or declined based on its own merits. --[[User:Briess|Briess]] 09:34, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
#::::It's "ESS-coo-lah". Just relax as you say it. I was only commenting on if I needed to link to you, "11987" is a seemingly random string of numbers, and thus hard to remember, that's all. And as for the "opponent" bit, Briess, I didn't know if there were limited slots or not. I'll strike that part.--[[User:Aescula|Aescula]] 10:42, 1 March 2010 (UTC) 
#:::::Just for you Aescula [[User:Mason11987|Mason]] ([[User talk:Mason11987|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Mason11987|C]]) 11:43, 1 March 2010 (UTC) 

# '''SUPPORT''': You are undoubtedly the best qualified candidate. Your love for the wiki knows no bounds. In fact, it might cross into some sort of weird, taboo area. --[[User:Barrel Roll|Barrel_Roll]]

===Oppose===
# '''OPPOSE''': Blah blah blah, here's why, signature
===Neutral===
# '''NEUTRAL'''| blah blah blah here's why signature

Dwarf Fortress Wiki:Request for Adminship/Mason11987

2010-03-03T07:01:25Z

Barrel Roll: /* Support */

==Administrator Candidacy Questionnaire==
===Why would I be a good Administrator?===

I understand the wiki system, setting up and manageing templates/categories. I understand the system messages (which sysops have default access to modifying). I ran the sporewiki for a year+ prior to it's launch [http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki] and am still a bureaucrat there even though I haven't edited in a while. I'm also an admin at sagan4wiki, which is a conceptual offshoot inspired by the spore game [http://wiki.mydigiview.com/index.php?title=Main_Page], I didn't create any of the content but the background organization/templates/messages are almost completely my work and the community decided to name the planet's moon after me because of how much I helped :D. I'm also still a sysop at cybernations wiki [http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page] and did a lot of organization there, though I'm inactive in that game/wiki as well now.

Basically, there are a lot of things that can be done to improve a wiki that take a lot of testing and deleting of testing pages, moving over redirects, and modifications to system messages. The people who have admin powers now are awesome "leaders" but without a lot of time describing things that can be done, those sort of changes can't be easily completed.

There are three philosophies for "admins", or sysops which have developed over time on wikipedia.

#People who should get the position are people who deserve to be rewarded for maintenance stuff or content creation stuff
#People who should get the position are people who are good leaders, and should be "in charge"
#People who should get the position are people who could do good without the tools, but who could do more good with them.

I think #1 is unnecessary, assigning sysop as a reward system is not the right thing to do, because it shouldn't be about a "title". This leads nicely into #2, sysops shouldn't be in charge, they should be as accountable as anyone else, and if people think they are doing badly they should remove their power or have it removed. If we need "leaders" they should be bueracrats, and should recognize that the only types of people who get sysop would be #3. #3 is where I think I fall, and I think it makes the most sense. The community at large would be best helped by people contributing exactly as much as they are capable to contribute. I feel that if people can contribute to the wiki more if they could do a couple more things, then they should have it. The key point is that ''most people who are content-creators or typograpical-editors do not need these powers''. This shouldn't make them feel less important, because they aren't. But people shouldn't feel like they are more important just because they have the powers either.

====Supporting Evidence====
*[http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/Special:Contributions/Mason11987 Contributions]. But here are some additional logs of work I've done at other wikis just to make it clear that I am not a person who comes to wikis to screw with them. [http://spore.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=delete&user=Mason11987&page=&year=&month=-1&hide_patrol_log=1], [http://cybernations.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special:Log&user=Mason11987] [http://wiki.mydigiview.com/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&limit=500&target=Mason11987]
*[[DF2010]]

==Public Q&A==
*'''Q''':In the next few months the next version of DF will be released. This will make a lot of information here obsolete. How do you see yourself as an admin dealing with this? --[[User:Kwieland|Kwieland]] 15:55, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
*'''A''': Fantastic question, hopefully [[Dwarf Fortress Wiki:Versions|this]] explains my idea succintcly enough. Basically I propose not only making it up to date as of the new version, but updating the wiki so that obsolete articles are easily identified and organized. [[User:Mason11987|Mason11987]] 20:41, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

*I'm intending to work towards this goal regardless of the outcome of this administration request. And while I don't intend to use my administration in any way to inflate my opinion on what the wiki should do '''at all''' I think the inevitable implentation of large scale projects like this requires a few of the tools that administrators have and I think if I had them I could be a lot more useful. [[User:Mason11987|Mason11987]] 20:41, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

==Public Discussion==
:'''I know that a lot of people don't know me well enough to make a judgement. I respectfully ask that you come back in a month and evaluate again, instead of making an uninformed statement. Also, if others don't mind, I don't care if this stays open until everyone gets enough information to state their opinion.'''

:I think that this RfA thing was setup because of my comments on Briess's pages and yet I'm the only one without any comments --> :(. [[User:Mason11987|Mason11987]] 04:06, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

::I don't know enough about you to form a worthwhile opinion one way or the other. [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 21:52, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

::: PUblic Q&A section? [[User:Mason11987|Mason11987]] 22:19, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

::::That would only tell me how you would answer the questions I aksked you (: [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 22:58, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

==Votes==
===Support===
# '''SUPPORT''': Honestly? You sound like a very knowledgeable person, and experienced. The one and only reason this isn't a "Strong Support" is because of the username. Call me prejudiced, but "Mason11987" is pretty hard to say, and to remember. Especially because I think out every word I read and type in my head, as if spoken. Anyways, still supporting, on merit of knowledge and helpfulness. --[[User:Aescula|Aescula]] 00:44, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
#:Really? Aescula sounds like the hardest name to read out loud I've ever seen. You can just call me "Mason" if you like. Also, I would hope we aren't opponents. In my opinion we're each getting judged independently and if we're all useful as admins I would hope we'd all become one. Also, thanks. :D [[User:Mason11987|Mason11987]] ([[User talk:Mason11987|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Mason11987|C]]) 00:54, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
#::I always pronounced her name "Ayz-cool-ah". Anyhow, I'll happily vote for you once I know just a leetle bit more about ya. Though, again, your name. Eet has too many numbers in eet. --[[User:DarthCloakedDwarf|DarthCloakedDwarf]] 02:44, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
#:::There's no such thing as an "opponent" in these votes, your RfA stands on entirely its own merits and is either passed or declined based on its own merits. --[[User:Briess|Briess]] 09:34, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
#::::It's "ESS-coo-lah". Just relax as you say it. I was only commenting on if I needed to link to you, "11987" is a seemingly random string of numbers, and thus hard to remember, that's all. And as for the "opponent" bit, Briess, I didn't know if there were limited slots or not. I'll strike that part.--[[User:Aescula|Aescula]] 10:42, 1 March 2010 (UTC) 
#:::::Just for you Aescula [[User:Mason11987|Mason]] ([[User talk:Mason11987|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Mason11987|C]]) 11:43, 1 March 2010 (UTC) 

# '''SUPPORT''': Your undoubtedly the best qualified candidate. You're love for the wiki knows no bounds. In fact, it might cross into some sort of weird, taboo area. --[[User:Barrel Roll|Barrel_Roll]]

===Oppose===
# '''OPPOSE''': Blah blah blah, here's why, signature
===Neutral===
# '''NEUTRAL'''| blah blah blah here's why signature

Dwarf Fortress Wiki:Request for Adminship/Mason11987

2010-03-03T07:01:02Z

Barrel Roll: /* Support */

==Administrator Candidacy Questionnaire==
===Why would I be a good Administrator?===

I understand the wiki system, setting up and manageing templates/categories. I understand the system messages (which sysops have default access to modifying). I ran the sporewiki for a year+ prior to it's launch [http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki] and am still a bureaucrat there even though I haven't edited in a while. I'm also an admin at sagan4wiki, which is a conceptual offshoot inspired by the spore game [http://wiki.mydigiview.com/index.php?title=Main_Page], I didn't create any of the content but the background organization/templates/messages are almost completely my work and the community decided to name the planet's moon after me because of how much I helped :D. I'm also still a sysop at cybernations wiki [http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page] and did a lot of organization there, though I'm inactive in that game/wiki as well now.

Basically, there are a lot of things that can be done to improve a wiki that take a lot of testing and deleting of testing pages, moving over redirects, and modifications to system messages. The people who have admin powers now are awesome "leaders" but without a lot of time describing things that can be done, those sort of changes can't be easily completed.

There are three philosophies for "admins", or sysops which have developed over time on wikipedia.

#People who should get the position are people who deserve to be rewarded for maintenance stuff or content creation stuff
#People who should get the position are people who are good leaders, and should be "in charge"
#People who should get the position are people who could do good without the tools, but who could do more good with them.

I think #1 is unnecessary, assigning sysop as a reward system is not the right thing to do, because it shouldn't be about a "title". This leads nicely into #2, sysops shouldn't be in charge, they should be as accountable as anyone else, and if people think they are doing badly they should remove their power or have it removed. If we need "leaders" they should be bueracrats, and should recognize that the only types of people who get sysop would be #3. #3 is where I think I fall, and I think it makes the most sense. The community at large would be best helped by people contributing exactly as much as they are capable to contribute. I feel that if people can contribute to the wiki more if they could do a couple more things, then they should have it. The key point is that ''most people who are content-creators or typograpical-editors do not need these powers''. This shouldn't make them feel less important, because they aren't. But people shouldn't feel like they are more important just because they have the powers either.

====Supporting Evidence====
*[http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/Special:Contributions/Mason11987 Contributions]. But here are some additional logs of work I've done at other wikis just to make it clear that I am not a person who comes to wikis to screw with them. [http://spore.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=delete&user=Mason11987&page=&year=&month=-1&hide_patrol_log=1], [http://cybernations.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special:Log&user=Mason11987] [http://wiki.mydigiview.com/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&limit=500&target=Mason11987]
*[[DF2010]]

==Public Q&A==
*'''Q''':In the next few months the next version of DF will be released. This will make a lot of information here obsolete. How do you see yourself as an admin dealing with this? --[[User:Kwieland|Kwieland]] 15:55, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
*'''A''': Fantastic question, hopefully [[Dwarf Fortress Wiki:Versions|this]] explains my idea succintcly enough. Basically I propose not only making it up to date as of the new version, but updating the wiki so that obsolete articles are easily identified and organized. [[User:Mason11987|Mason11987]] 20:41, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

*I'm intending to work towards this goal regardless of the outcome of this administration request. And while I don't intend to use my administration in any way to inflate my opinion on what the wiki should do '''at all''' I think the inevitable implentation of large scale projects like this requires a few of the tools that administrators have and I think if I had them I could be a lot more useful. [[User:Mason11987|Mason11987]] 20:41, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

==Public Discussion==
:'''I know that a lot of people don't know me well enough to make a judgement. I respectfully ask that you come back in a month and evaluate again, instead of making an uninformed statement. Also, if others don't mind, I don't care if this stays open until everyone gets enough information to state their opinion.'''

:I think that this RfA thing was setup because of my comments on Briess's pages and yet I'm the only one without any comments --> :(. [[User:Mason11987|Mason11987]] 04:06, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

::I don't know enough about you to form a worthwhile opinion one way or the other. [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 21:52, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

::: PUblic Q&A section? [[User:Mason11987|Mason11987]] 22:19, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

::::That would only tell me how you would answer the questions I aksked you (: [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 22:58, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

==Votes==
===Support===
# '''SUPPORT''': Honestly? You sound like a very knowledgeable person, and experienced. The one and only reason this isn't a "Strong Support" is because of the username. Call me prejudiced, but "Mason11987" is pretty hard to say, and to remember. Especially because I think out every word I read and type in my head, as if spoken. Anyways, still supporting, on merit of knowledge and helpfulness. --[[User:Aescula|Aescula]] 00:44, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
#:Really? Aescula sounds like the hardest name to read out loud I've ever seen. You can just call me "Mason" if you like. Also, I would hope we aren't opponents. In my opinion we're each getting judged independently and if we're all useful as admins I would hope we'd all become one. Also, thanks. :D [[User:Mason11987|Mason11987]] ([[User talk:Mason11987|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Mason11987|C]]) 00:54, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
#::I always pronounced her name "Ayz-cool-ah". Anyhow, I'll happily vote for you once I know just a leetle bit more about ya. Though, again, your name. Eet has too many numbers in eet. --[[User:DarthCloakedDwarf|DarthCloakedDwarf]] 02:44, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
#:::There's no such thing as an "opponent" in these votes, your RfA stands on entirely its own merits and is either passed or declined based on its own merits. --[[User:Briess|Briess]] 09:34, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
#::::It's "ESS-coo-lah". Just relax as you say it. I was only commenting on if I needed to link to you, "11987" is a seemingly random string of numbers, and thus hard to remember, that's all. And as for the "opponent" bit, Briess, I didn't know if there were limited slots or not. I'll strike that part.--[[User:Aescula|Aescula]] 10:42, 1 March 2010 (UTC) 
#:::::Just for you Aescula [[User:Mason11987|Mason]] ([[User talk:Mason11987|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Mason11987|C]]) 11:43, 1 March 2010 (UTC) 

# '''SUPPORT''': You're undoubtedly the best qualified candidate. You're love for the wiki knows no bounds. In fact, it might cross into some sort of weird, taboo area. --[[User:Barrel Roll|Barrel_Roll]]

===Oppose===
# '''OPPOSE''': Blah blah blah, here's why, signature
===Neutral===
# '''NEUTRAL'''| blah blah blah here's why signature

User:Barrel Roll

2010-03-03T07:00:16Z

Barrel Roll:

== ZZ ==

User:Barrel Roll

2010-03-03T06:59:52Z

Barrel Roll: Created page with '====Do a barrel roll!===='

====Do a barrel roll!====

Dwarf Fortress Wiki:Request for Adminship/Mason11987

2010-03-03T06:58:31Z

Barrel Roll: /* Support */

==Administrator Candidacy Questionnaire==
===Why would I be a good Administrator?===

I understand the wiki system, setting up and manageing templates/categories. I understand the system messages (which sysops have default access to modifying). I ran the sporewiki for a year+ prior to it's launch [http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki] and am still a bureaucrat there even though I haven't edited in a while. I'm also an admin at sagan4wiki, which is a conceptual offshoot inspired by the spore game [http://wiki.mydigiview.com/index.php?title=Main_Page], I didn't create any of the content but the background organization/templates/messages are almost completely my work and the community decided to name the planet's moon after me because of how much I helped :D. I'm also still a sysop at cybernations wiki [http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page] and did a lot of organization there, though I'm inactive in that game/wiki as well now.

Basically, there are a lot of things that can be done to improve a wiki that take a lot of testing and deleting of testing pages, moving over redirects, and modifications to system messages. The people who have admin powers now are awesome "leaders" but without a lot of time describing things that can be done, those sort of changes can't be easily completed.

There are three philosophies for "admins", or sysops which have developed over time on wikipedia.

#People who should get the position are people who deserve to be rewarded for maintenance stuff or content creation stuff
#People who should get the position are people who are good leaders, and should be "in charge"
#People who should get the position are people who could do good without the tools, but who could do more good with them.

I think #1 is unnecessary, assigning sysop as a reward system is not the right thing to do, because it shouldn't be about a "title". This leads nicely into #2, sysops shouldn't be in charge, they should be as accountable as anyone else, and if people think they are doing badly they should remove their power or have it removed. If we need "leaders" they should be bueracrats, and should recognize that the only types of people who get sysop would be #3. #3 is where I think I fall, and I think it makes the most sense. The community at large would be best helped by people contributing exactly as much as they are capable to contribute. I feel that if people can contribute to the wiki more if they could do a couple more things, then they should have it. The key point is that ''most people who are content-creators or typograpical-editors do not need these powers''. This shouldn't make them feel less important, because they aren't. But people shouldn't feel like they are more important just because they have the powers either.

====Supporting Evidence====
*[http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/Special:Contributions/Mason11987 Contributions]. But here are some additional logs of work I've done at other wikis just to make it clear that I am not a person who comes to wikis to screw with them. [http://spore.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=delete&user=Mason11987&page=&year=&month=-1&hide_patrol_log=1], [http://cybernations.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special:Log&user=Mason11987] [http://wiki.mydigiview.com/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&limit=500&target=Mason11987]
*[[DF2010]]

==Public Q&A==
*'''Q''':In the next few months the next version of DF will be released. This will make a lot of information here obsolete. How do you see yourself as an admin dealing with this? --[[User:Kwieland|Kwieland]] 15:55, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
*'''A''': Fantastic question, hopefully [[Dwarf Fortress Wiki:Versions|this]] explains my idea succintcly enough. Basically I propose not only making it up to date as of the new version, but updating the wiki so that obsolete articles are easily identified and organized. [[User:Mason11987|Mason11987]] 20:41, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

*I'm intending to work towards this goal regardless of the outcome of this administration request. And while I don't intend to use my administration in any way to inflate my opinion on what the wiki should do '''at all''' I think the inevitable implentation of large scale projects like this requires a few of the tools that administrators have and I think if I had them I could be a lot more useful. [[User:Mason11987|Mason11987]] 20:41, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

==Public Discussion==
:'''I know that a lot of people don't know me well enough to make a judgement. I respectfully ask that you come back in a month and evaluate again, instead of making an uninformed statement. Also, if others don't mind, I don't care if this stays open until everyone gets enough information to state their opinion.'''

:I think that this RfA thing was setup because of my comments on Briess's pages and yet I'm the only one without any comments --> :(. [[User:Mason11987|Mason11987]] 04:06, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

::I don't know enough about you to form a worthwhile opinion one way or the other. [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 21:52, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

::: PUblic Q&A section? [[User:Mason11987|Mason11987]] 22:19, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

::::That would only tell me how you would answer the questions I aksked you (: [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 22:58, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

==Votes==
===Support===
# '''SUPPORT''': Honestly? You sound like a very knowledgeable person, and experienced. The one and only reason this isn't a "Strong Support" is because of the username. Call me prejudiced, but "Mason11987" is pretty hard to say, and to remember. Especially because I think out every word I read and type in my head, as if spoken. Anyways, still supporting, on merit of knowledge and helpfulness. --[[User:Aescula|Aescula]] 00:44, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
#:Really? Aescula sounds like the hardest name to read out loud I've ever seen. You can just call me "Mason" if you like. Also, I would hope we aren't opponents. In my opinion we're each getting judged independently and if we're all useful as admins I would hope we'd all become one. Also, thanks. :D [[User:Mason11987|Mason11987]] ([[User talk:Mason11987|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Mason11987|C]]) 00:54, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
#::I always pronounced her name "Ayz-cool-ah". Anyhow, I'll happily vote for you once I know just a leetle bit more about ya. Though, again, your name. Eet has too many numbers in eet. --[[User:DarthCloakedDwarf|DarthCloakedDwarf]] 02:44, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
#:::There's no such thing as an "opponent" in these votes, your RfA stands on entirely its own merits and is either passed or declined based on its own merits. --[[User:Briess|Briess]] 09:34, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
#::::It's "ESS-coo-lah". Just relax as you say it. I was only commenting on if I needed to link to you, "11987" is a seemingly random string of numbers, and thus hard to remember, that's all. And as for the "opponent" bit, Briess, I didn't know if there were limited slots or not. I'll strike that part.--[[User:Aescula|Aescula]] 10:42, 1 March 2010 (UTC) 
#:::::Just for you Aescula [[User:Mason11987|Mason]] ([[User talk:Mason11987|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Mason11987|C]]) 11:43, 1 March 2010 (UTC) 

# '''SUPPORT''': You're undoubtedly the best qualified candidate. You're love for the wiki knows no bounds. In fact, it might cross into some sort of weird, taboo area. ~

===Oppose===
# '''OPPOSE''': Blah blah blah, here's why, signature
===Neutral===
# '''NEUTRAL'''| blah blah blah here's why signature

Dwarf Fortress Wiki:Request for Adminship/Mason11987

2010-03-03T06:58:15Z

Barrel Roll: /* Support */

==Administrator Candidacy Questionnaire==
===Why would I be a good Administrator?===

I understand the wiki system, setting up and manageing templates/categories. I understand the system messages (which sysops have default access to modifying). I ran the sporewiki for a year+ prior to it's launch [http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki] and am still a bureaucrat there even though I haven't edited in a while. I'm also an admin at sagan4wiki, which is a conceptual offshoot inspired by the spore game [http://wiki.mydigiview.com/index.php?title=Main_Page], I didn't create any of the content but the background organization/templates/messages are almost completely my work and the community decided to name the planet's moon after me because of how much I helped :D. I'm also still a sysop at cybernations wiki [http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page] and did a lot of organization there, though I'm inactive in that game/wiki as well now.

Basically, there are a lot of things that can be done to improve a wiki that take a lot of testing and deleting of testing pages, moving over redirects, and modifications to system messages. The people who have admin powers now are awesome "leaders" but without a lot of time describing things that can be done, those sort of changes can't be easily completed.

There are three philosophies for "admins", or sysops which have developed over time on wikipedia.

#People who should get the position are people who deserve to be rewarded for maintenance stuff or content creation stuff
#People who should get the position are people who are good leaders, and should be "in charge"
#People who should get the position are people who could do good without the tools, but who could do more good with them.

I think #1 is unnecessary, assigning sysop as a reward system is not the right thing to do, because it shouldn't be about a "title". This leads nicely into #2, sysops shouldn't be in charge, they should be as accountable as anyone else, and if people think they are doing badly they should remove their power or have it removed. If we need "leaders" they should be bueracrats, and should recognize that the only types of people who get sysop would be #3. #3 is where I think I fall, and I think it makes the most sense. The community at large would be best helped by people contributing exactly as much as they are capable to contribute. I feel that if people can contribute to the wiki more if they could do a couple more things, then they should have it. The key point is that ''most people who are content-creators or typograpical-editors do not need these powers''. This shouldn't make them feel less important, because they aren't. But people shouldn't feel like they are more important just because they have the powers either.

====Supporting Evidence====
*[http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/Special:Contributions/Mason11987 Contributions]. But here are some additional logs of work I've done at other wikis just to make it clear that I am not a person who comes to wikis to screw with them. [http://spore.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=delete&user=Mason11987&page=&year=&month=-1&hide_patrol_log=1], [http://cybernations.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special:Log&user=Mason11987] [http://wiki.mydigiview.com/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&limit=500&target=Mason11987]
*[[DF2010]]

==Public Q&A==
*'''Q''':In the next few months the next version of DF will be released. This will make a lot of information here obsolete. How do you see yourself as an admin dealing with this? --[[User:Kwieland|Kwieland]] 15:55, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
*'''A''': Fantastic question, hopefully [[Dwarf Fortress Wiki:Versions|this]] explains my idea succintcly enough. Basically I propose not only making it up to date as of the new version, but updating the wiki so that obsolete articles are easily identified and organized. [[User:Mason11987|Mason11987]] 20:41, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

*I'm intending to work towards this goal regardless of the outcome of this administration request. And while I don't intend to use my administration in any way to inflate my opinion on what the wiki should do '''at all''' I think the inevitable implentation of large scale projects like this requires a few of the tools that administrators have and I think if I had them I could be a lot more useful. [[User:Mason11987|Mason11987]] 20:41, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

==Public Discussion==
:'''I know that a lot of people don't know me well enough to make a judgement. I respectfully ask that you come back in a month and evaluate again, instead of making an uninformed statement. Also, if others don't mind, I don't care if this stays open until everyone gets enough information to state their opinion.'''

:I think that this RfA thing was setup because of my comments on Briess's pages and yet I'm the only one without any comments --> :(. [[User:Mason11987|Mason11987]] 04:06, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

::I don't know enough about you to form a worthwhile opinion one way or the other. [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 21:52, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

::: PUblic Q&A section? [[User:Mason11987|Mason11987]] 22:19, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

::::That would only tell me how you would answer the questions I aksked you (: [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 22:58, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

==Votes==
===Support===
# '''SUPPORT''': Honestly? You sound like a very knowledgeable person, and experienced. The one and only reason this isn't a "Strong Support" is because of the username. Call me prejudiced, but "Mason11987" is pretty hard to say, and to remember. Especially because I think out every word I read and type in my head, as if spoken. Anyways, still supporting, on merit of knowledge and helpfulness. --[[User:Aescula|Aescula]] 00:44, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
#:Really? Aescula sounds like the hardest name to read out loud I've ever seen. You can just call me "Mason" if you like. Also, I would hope we aren't opponents. In my opinion we're each getting judged independently and if we're all useful as admins I would hope we'd all become one. Also, thanks. :D [[User:Mason11987|Mason11987]] ([[User talk:Mason11987|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Mason11987|C]]) 00:54, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
#::I always pronounced her name "Ayz-cool-ah". Anyhow, I'll happily vote for you once I know just a leetle bit more about ya. Though, again, your name. Eet has too many numbers in eet. --[[User:DarthCloakedDwarf|DarthCloakedDwarf]] 02:44, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
#:::There's no such thing as an "opponent" in these votes, your RfA stands on entirely its own merits and is either passed or declined based on its own merits. --[[User:Briess|Briess]] 09:34, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
#::::It's "ESS-coo-lah". Just relax as you say it. I was only commenting on if I needed to link to you, "11987" is a seemingly random string of numbers, and thus hard to remember, that's all. And as for the "opponent" bit, Briess, I didn't know if there were limited slots or not. I'll strike that part.--[[User:Aescula|Aescula]] 10:42, 1 March 2010 (UTC) 
#:::::Just for you Aescula [[User:Mason11987|Mason]] ([[User talk:Mason11987|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Mason11987|C]]) 11:43, 1 March 2010 (UTC) 

# '''SUPPORT''': You're undoubtedly the best qualified candidate. You're love for the wiki knows no bounds. In fact, it might cross into some sort of weird, taboo area.

===Oppose===
# '''OPPOSE''': Blah blah blah, here's why, signature
===Neutral===
# '''NEUTRAL'''| blah blah blah here's why signature

40d:Cave-in

2009-10-18T10:59:14Z

Barrel Roll: /* Avoiding cave-ins */

A '''cave-in''' will occur if constructions or ground tiles are detached from all supporting tiles (bridges and the like do not support constructions). Since it is only a placeholder, the system is highly unrealistic – you can hold up a giant megafortress by a slender pillar of soap. [[Toady]] has stated he intends to implement more realistic cave-ins in future versions.

Cave-ins can be disabled through the [[Technical tricks|init]] file, by changing [CAVEINS:YES] to [CAVEINS:NO].

== How cave-ins work ==

Any ''unconnected'' section of terrain ([[rock]], dirt, or [[construction]] that is completely disconnected from the rest of the world) will cave in. The game checks for terrain connections along the X, Y, and Z axes (that's left/right, up/down, and high/low). Diagonal connections are not taken into account yet. [[Stairs]] and [[support|supports]] will hold up the terrain. There are not (m)any [[bridge]]s that will hold up the terrain.

== Results of a cave-in ==

* Almost any [[creature]] caught under the falling material is crushed and killed.
* Any item caught under falling natural walls is destroyed completely. Natural floors and constructed walls and floors do not destroy items.{{version|0.28.181.40d}}
* Anything standing on the area that caves in falls and may be wounded. The fall victim has a chance of being unable to walk away, somewhat proportional to the distance fallen but not set in stone. No pun intended.
* A large amount of dust is generated. Any creature caught by the dust from the collapse is knocked [[unconscious]] and thrown a few tiles, which may cause them to fall off a narrow bridge fifty z-levels above the ground.
* All [[building]]s and non-wall [[construction]]s under the falling area are destroyed. Buildings above the cave-in will deconstruct if they are no longer supported.
* Natural terrain will remain intact during the cave-in; the only effect is they are revealed.
* Constructions will deconstruct when they collide with solid terrain.
* Any terrain crashes through multiple [[floor]]s, and stops only upon reaching solid ground or a constructed wall, where natural terrain piles up and constructions deconstruct.
* Mined stairs and [[ramp]]s will settle like unmined rock; Stairs down that fall onto previously empty [[floor]]s will reveal the level below. If there's rock or floor above them, it'll cover the stairs.
* Anything falling into a fluid sinks to the bottom. Therefore, it is not a good idea to punch a skylight into your meeting area if you forgot that e.g. your [[gem]] pile was directly below and you had a [[magma]] tube three Z levels afterward... you get the idea.
* If your [[dwarves]], [[animals]], items, or even the seven simultaneous [[goblin]] [[siege]]s at your [[door]] are unfortunate enough to be caught in a cave-in's dust cloud, they will be pushed around and likely sucked down to a lower level.
:* This can be used to an advantage (i.e. drop a [[wood]]en floor such that the dust will push the invaders into your magma [[moat]]).

== Avoiding cave-ins ==

Do not make unconnected sections of rock.

Actually, you're quite unlikely to cause cave-ins unless you are actively trying to cause them. In which case, you'd be wondering how to avoid cave-ins that ''cause damage'' to your folks. That's simple: Add a [[support]] under the stone mass, and link it to a distant [[lever]]. When you're done, hide everyone, pull the lever and watch the fireworks.

One of the more common accidental cave-ins results when you're taking out the floor in a checker-pattern (dwarves [[channel]]ing may sometimes tend to make this mistake) and the area below isn't supported, resulting in a situation like the diagram below:

Floor -1
▒▒▒▒▒▒
▒ ▒
▒ X +▒ <-- The X is a floor tile. It's not attached, so it will fall down.
▒ +>▒
▒ ▒
▒▒▒▒▒▒

Floor -2
▒▒▒▒▒▒
▒....▒
▒...▒▒ <-- Causing this area to receive a cave-in flow and knocking out any dwarves in its reach.
▒...<▒
▒....▒
▒▒▒▒▒▒

Another thing to watch out for is if you want to dig away a hill above ground, to make room for your fancy overground fort. You may dig away the hill on one level, and then have a huge platform of "floor" on the z-level above that falls on your [[miner]] if they get disconnected from the ground. Easy thing to miss the first time you do it.

The solution here is to dig ramps instead, since these take away both the [[soil]] on the level you are digging on and the floor on the level above. This is not foolproof, however, as [[tree]]s will prevent the floor it's on from being removed, resulting a free-hanging floor when you carve the ramp around it. In addition, ramps do not provide support for other tiles on the higher z-level; depending upon the order they are constructed, cave-ins may still occur.

== Using cave-ins ==

Intentional cave-ins serve four purposes:

* Dams. Dropping a section of natural rock above an [[underground river]] can provide a way to dam the river. Similarly, causing a cave-in is probably the easiest way to be able to dig beneath an [[aquifer]] you can't dig around. This only works with natural rock; [[constructions]] will revert to their components, and not block the river at all.
* Death. Since a cave-in kills most [[creatures]] instantly, it can provide a convenient or amusing way to off a group of creatures.
* Easy removal of floor tiles. Causing a cave-in will destroy non-reinforced (no wall or support underneath) floor tiles directly underneath the falling terrain - this is a good way to e.g. hollow out a large area. All that's left to do is a little bit of cleanup on the edges, but look at all the channeling you save yourself!
* Destroying items. Elven siege left behind a bunch of worthless wooden weapons? Got some fire imp fat in your butcher's shop? Need an amusing way to off your stone? Smash it with a cave-in and you'll never see it again.
* Breaking through one or even more levels of aquifer easily. Showcase with two levels: [[User:Rhenaya/HowtoDualAquifer]]

=== causing caveins of the toplevel/terrain without going outside (attack from below) ===

You can cause terrain above you to cave in without going outside by first mining up stairs below the "borderline" you want to channel, and then channeling the tiles above them.
The tiles above the up stairs can be mined from below while standing on the stair, so you don't have to go outside. Ramps would also work for that alone, but the ramps would allow enemies to enter, whereas the up-stairs alone do not allow passage to above as there is no corresponding down-stair above them. {{verify}}

* first step: preparation, up-stairs :
zlevel -1 : (U=up-stairs, S=Support), this is the level below the target, part of your tunnels.
▒▒▒▒▒▒▒
▒UUUUU▒
▒U...U▒
▒U.S.U▒
▒U...U▒
▒UUUUU▒
▒▒▒▒▒▒▒

* second step: channeling :
zlevel 0 : (C=Channel), your enemies,trees,etc are on this level, and you none of your dwarfs needs to go here
.......
.CCCCC.
.C...C.
.C...C.
.C...C.
.CCCCC.
.......
(dwarfs are able to make the channels by standing below on the stairs)
(enemies are not able to enter, as there is no down-stairs connected with the up-stairs)

* third step : keep your dwarfs save, and pull the lever

Note : your dwarfs will not dig the channels if "dwarfs stay indoors" is active, but you can lock them in using drawbridges to prevent them from going outside.

Beware, enemies with ranged weapons are probably able to shoot down the channels at your dwarfs below, but they should be safe from melee fighters.{{verify}}

Want an underground forest but no underground river on the map ? no problem, just drop the above-ground-forest a few z-levels and build a floor above it.
{{verify}}

{{Mining FAQ}}

[[Category:Guides]]
[[Category:Physics]]

40d:Throne

2009-09-12T15:59:04Z

Barrel Roll:

'''Thrones''', or '''chairs''', when made of [[wood]], referred to as 'seat' in menu, are used to create [[office]]s for [[nobles]]. They are also used in [[dining room]]s -- each [[table]] must have at least one throne to allow dwarves to sit while they eat. The material a throne or chair is made from (wood, [[stone]], [[metal]], or [[glass]]) has no effect on its functionality. Note that for an equal skill level, wood chairs are produced faster than rock thrones.

The {{k|b}}uild menu option {{k|c}} Seat will allow you to place thrones and chairs, but only [[inside|indoors]].

{{Buildings}}

[[Category:Furniture]]