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: My Charbone Battle Axe says it should be written down SOMEWHERE :P  ...as does my Kunzite Cabinet and Blue Garnet Statue.  I have some crazy dwarves.  Oh, and that thing about any room with an artifact in it being royal....bunk.  I have an artifact Bismuth Chain in a throne room, place didn't get bumped up to royal status until I also threw in the artifact Oaken Hatch Cover.  --[[User:Eddie|Eddie]] 11:51, 26 July 2008 (EDT)
 
: My Charbone Battle Axe says it should be written down SOMEWHERE :P  ...as does my Kunzite Cabinet and Blue Garnet Statue.  I have some crazy dwarves.  Oh, and that thing about any room with an artifact in it being royal....bunk.  I have an artifact Bismuth Chain in a throne room, place didn't get bumped up to royal status until I also threw in the artifact Oaken Hatch Cover.  --[[User:Eddie|Eddie]] 11:51, 26 July 2008 (EDT)
 
:: I think that, more specifically, it is that ''most'' artifacts will bump up a room to royal but all. Example: I have a Purple Spinel Door (worth 48000) that bumped up three rooms at once to royal quality. --[[User:Toloran|Toloran]] 20:07, 10 August 2008 (EDT)
 
:: I think that, more specifically, it is that ''most'' artifacts will bump up a room to royal but all. Example: I have a Purple Spinel Door (worth 48000) that bumped up three rooms at once to royal quality. --[[User:Toloran|Toloran]] 20:07, 10 August 2008 (EDT)
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Um, my craftsdwarf just got possessed, and he made a bone spear. "this is a rhesus macaque bone spear, highest quality craftsdwarfship, adorned with hanging rings of birch. does anyone how much damage it will do? is it even possible? [[User:Destor|Destor]] 10:32, 28 September 2008 (EDT)
  
 
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What can become an artifact?

What are some of the things that dwarfs can make into artifacts? Diabl0658 03:59, 1 December 2007 (EST)

Any item that your dwarves can craft and has a quality modifier can be made into artifacts. This includes armor, clothing, weapons, all kinds of crafts, furniture, cut gems and whatnot. Notable exceptions include coins(dunnae have quality modifiers), buildings(aint items) and babies(those rascals!). Bars, blocks, raw glass and other such base materials have no quality modifier and cannot be artifacts. I've never seen or heard about legendary meals, drinks and cloth/thread, so I think they can't be artifacts either. Though dwarves will say that they've eaten a legendary meal, when they've consumed a masterpiece meal. Noctis 06:02, 1 December 2007 (EST)
Ive heard of someone creating a artifact meal and almost having it rot away before getting it into the food stockpile Diabl0658 11:00, 1 December 2007 (EST)

Destruction

On #bay12games, there was some question about artifacts being destroyed by magma. Can anyone confirm or deny this? Also ways to destroy artifacts which aren't listed: Trading, dumping in magma vent (the floorless bottom seems to count as chasm), and dropping a bridge on it. Rkyeun 02:10, 20 January 2008 (EST)

I can't imagine anything not made of a magma-proof base material *not* being destroyed by any significant immersion in magma. --Edward 20:29, 20 January 2008 (EST)
And yet because it's an artifact, it may have a special flag that prevents specifically that. Can anyone confirm non-magma-proof artifact destruction in magma? Rkyeun 11:52, 24 January 2008 (EST)
Nevermind. I did. Artifact mechanism melted in magma. Rkyeun 02:34, 16 May 2008 (EDT)

Furniture

All right, so what can I do with a legendary lace agate hatch cover?GarrieIrons 03:20, 22 January 2008 (EST)

Same thing as 90% of Artis. Sell it or Build it in a Noble's room. --Edward 06:04, 28 April 2008 (EDT)
Artifacts are not tradeable. --Koltom 08:19, 28 April 2008 (EDT)
Really... that's weird then since I would swear that I sold a particularly valuable bracelet after killing off it's creator that was otherwise useless... Being that it was a good amount of time ago (possibly even pre-3D) that I actually *tried* to sell an arti, it's quite likely that time has muddled an attempt to sell into a successful sale. I suppose this somewhat nullifies my previous comment, since it's far less than 90% of artis which are buildable. --Edward 08:46, 28 April 2008 (EDT)

We just endured a rather nasty goblin ambush (I'd built a nice castle but hadn't yet built a real military to go with it, so we huddled inside with the drawbridge up for a whole season while I had my dwarves equip and train a small army to "break out" with) and one of my peasants gave me the nicest present after we cleaned up; a legendary goblin bone door made out of the bones of our fallen enemies. I very much want to use this as our castle's main entrance door now. Does anyone know if an artifact's indestructibility applies to trolls and similar door-wreckers? Oh, I've got magma, so I'll make a copy of the save game and test whether magma can burn through such a thing too. Bryan Derksen 15:30, 5 May 2008 (EDT)

It's a constructed nonterrain feature, thus it's going to be knocked down by anything that deconstructs constructions. --GreyMario 17:38, 5 May 2008 (EDT)
Hmph. I'll put it a couple of layers deep inside my fortifications, then. Guests will pass through it but invaders will have to fight pretty hard to get there. I'll just have to be satisfied with my giant electrum drawbridge as a fancy front door. Bryan Derksen 18:10, 5 May 2008 (EDT)

Artifact menu

I seem to recall stumbling across a list of the various legendary artifacts I had created. Can anyone tell me how to get to it again?

If you're talking about current artifacts in a given fortress, you get a new menu option once you've produced atleast one in that fortress. (lowercase L) --Edward 21:59, 22 January 2008 (EST)

much better --NateAustin 17:36, 29 February 2008 (EST)


Trade

Is it possible to trade legendary artifacts? I just got a legendary statue and it currently sitting my furniture storage. I 've tried to get my dwarves to bring it to the depot, but it doesnt show up on the trade list. Is it possible? Robje 18:09, 12 March 2008 (EDT)

No, Artifacts are not tradeable. They will not even take them to the depot if they sit in a bin marked for trade. --Koltom 08:20, 28 April 2008 (EDT)


Value

The value can be found under the artifact menur "l" what is the maximum calue you have found on an artifact, mine is platnium high boot for 146400? --Corhen

There is a thread on the forums somewhere with this specific purpose. --GreyMario 17:02, 28 April 2008 (EDT)

"Finished Goods"-type Artifacts...?

I understand the point of furniture artifacts- they can be built and are great for nobles- but what the heck are you supposed to do with artifact rings/amulets/crowns/scepters/et cetera? I'm sitting on over 300,000 value worth of "Finished Goods" artifacts. I guess my dwarves don't like building furniture... --Borgin

You could abandon the fortress and come back in adventure mode. Artifact rings? Too good! --Marble Dice 11:01, 15 May 2008 (EDT)
There might be more point to those types if/when artifacts start getting special magical effects. That's probably a long ways off though. --BahamutZERO 12:16, 15 May 2008 (EDT)
But even in Adventure Mode, artifacts (besides weapons/armor) don't have much of a point, right? To be honest, I've never gone through Adventure Mode- it lags my laptop. Sad, I know. But like BahamutZERO said, at least they'll gain some point eventually... And hopefully soon. --Borgin 23:46, 15 May 2008 (CST)
Well you can trade 'em to merchants in Adventure mode, I'd imagine? Maybe not, I've never tried, and I doubt the shops sell anything you'd care about (ie masterpiece steel or adamantine weapons and armor). Still, I think it's fun to walk around wearing an artifact ring or amulet! At least until an archer kills you. --Marble Dice 02:45, 16 May 2008 (EDT)
As far as I can tell, artifact crafts/goblets/etc are used entirely for boosting your fortress created wealth stat. There is rarely a time when a sudden 200k added to that is trivial.--Dadamh 14:36, 30 May 2008 (EDT)
Artifact craft items work weird in Adventure mode: you can sell them to a shopkeeper for all their goods and cash, and just pick it back up and walk away without guards jumping you for thievery; you can even re-sell it to the same guy if he has any money left. This is a pretty blatant exploit, though of limited use (coins is heavy!). You cannot, however, fast travel with an artifact you've already sold. But what does a wandering professional spearelf do with a turtle bone crown, anyway? --Zombiejustice 21:25, 1 July 2008 (EDT)

selling

is there a way to hack DF and be able to sell artifacts? --0todd0 20:58, 2 June 2008 (EDT)

Artifact millstones and gems

My dwarves have made three artifacts so far; I know that my emerald flask is just for style, but what of the "Perfect Aquamarine" and the Millstone? Will some noble love having a mill placed in his bedroom, grinding away at all hours of the night when he's trying to sleep, or is it just going to annoy him? As for the aquamarine, can it be crafted into furniture? Will this raise the item's value exponentially? Will it still serve to elevate a room to royal status for satisfying noble needs? If no one has the answers to these questions, I'll do the research myself and post findings. --Eddie 14:33, 2 July 2008 (EDT)

Go ahead and use the millstone -- it'll work just fine. As for the gem, it just looks pretty. Sometimes gem cutters make large gems, and you can trade them away.Mirthmanor 11:16, 16 August 2008 (EDT)

Artifact quality modifier?

I know that the quality modifier for regular equipped items is 1.0... for masterful it's 2.0... But what is the modifier for artifact level items? I can't find it anywhere. --PrettyGrizzly 11:04, 4 July 2008 (EDT)

The QUALITY modifier for artifacts is the same as Masterful, 2.0. The VALUE modifier of artifacts is MUCH higher than the Masterful's x12, though. :) AFAIK, the only difference is that only Legendary weapon/armor users can equip legendary weapons/armors. I may be wrong but I believe I read something to that effect a few months back. ----Borgin 20:00, 12 August 2008

Too precious to put down

Am I the only one whose dwarves create legendary... floodgates, put them down in the workshop and immediately pick them up again... then continue on with their merry lives just significantly weighed down?

I have never been able to use an artifact yet. My dwarves just never let them go! GarrieIrons 03:04, 6 July 2008 (EDT)

That's never happened to me, fortunately. I've seen three legendary doors, a legendary grate, a legendary bed, and a legendary batman cabinet, and was able to place them all normally. In fact, I've never had a military dwarf who was skillful enough to be worthy of picking up a legendary weapon or piece of armor. Bryan Derksen 04:37, 6 July 2008 (EDT)
I do believe that, in earlier versions, artificiers would carry their artifacts with them until death ripped them from their icy fingers. Perhaps you're just using an older version...? Borgin 20:04, 12 August 2008

Weird Materials (and armour?)

"Artifact weapons won't be used by recruits and normal warriors, only by elites and champions." Does this include armour? Also, should we add somewhere that weird materials are possible? Platinum plate armour (which is AWESOME) and the like that aren't normally possible? (I know I've seen it said somewhere, but it's not here) Droqen 10:58, 27 July 2008 (EST)

My Charbone Battle Axe says it should be written down SOMEWHERE :P ...as does my Kunzite Cabinet and Blue Garnet Statue. I have some crazy dwarves. Oh, and that thing about any room with an artifact in it being royal....bunk. I have an artifact Bismuth Chain in a throne room, place didn't get bumped up to royal status until I also threw in the artifact Oaken Hatch Cover. --Eddie 11:51, 26 July 2008 (EDT)
I think that, more specifically, it is that most artifacts will bump up a room to royal but all. Example: I have a Purple Spinel Door (worth 48000) that bumped up three rooms at once to royal quality. --Toloran 20:07, 10 August 2008 (EDT)

Um, my craftsdwarf just got possessed, and he made a bone spear. "this is a rhesus macaque bone spear, highest quality craftsdwarfship, adorned with hanging rings of birch. does anyone how much damage it will do? is it even possible? Destor 10:32, 28 September 2008 (EDT)

availability

Is there a way to hack the game so you can make artifact weapons, even if the dwarf isn't in a fey mood? Or better, for them out of nothing? -Eddren, Fortress extraordinar

Artifact Quine!

My Tanner claimed a leatherworking shop and produced a self-referential artifact: Lathonnunùr, "The Mythical Crevices", a donkey leather mask.

This is a donkey leather mask. All craftsdwarfship is of the highest quality. This object menaces with spikes of dog leather and Alunite. On the item is an image of The Mythical Crevices the donkey leather mask in donkey leather. On the item is an image of Portalshades the alligator and dwarves in muskox leather. Portalshades in surrounded by the dwarves. The artwork relates to the rise of the alligator Portalshades as an enemy of The Problematic Sack in 29.

Presumably the image is recursive? Anyway, this artifact was apparently so cool that it created a disturbance in the Force which the dwarves back home managed to pick up, because the very next caravan to arrive offered an empty lead cage decorated with a (presumably also recursive) picture of The Mythical Crevices:

This is a well-crafted Lead cage. It is decorated with exceptionally worked giant eagle leather and encircled with bands of exceptionally worked Ruby. On the item is a finely-designed image of The Mythical Crevices the donkey leather mask in Cassiterite.

(Note that I'm running with [SHOW_ALL_HISTORY_IN_DWARF_MODE:YES], and my fortress started in the year 88. I didn't feel like waiting for the whole thousand-year history to generate — if you hit Escape during worldgen, you can start playing with the universe "so far". Useful thing to know.) --Quuxplusone 23:40, 3 August 2008 (EDT)

Reclaim Mode and Artifacts

It seems that if you have artifacts, lose your fortress, then reclaim, the artifacts are weirdly affected. Artifacts become sellable, for a start. This kinda makes sense because your dwarves don't care so much about someone else's artifacts, I suppose. The really odd thing, though, is that constructed artifacts (grates, doors, etc) seem to stop being artifacts. Shislugbumal becomes merely an elf bone throne - and if you view the items in the "building" the throne contains a Shislugbumal which isn't marked [B], can't be dumped or claimed, isn't listed in the stocks screen etc. And if the throne is deconstructed, it ceases to exist entirely. It does, however, still give a huge boost to the room value. Is this normal behavior?

PS: Damnit, every time I look to this wiki my dwarves all run off to be eaten by skeletal horses. Bastards. --Groveller 10:57, 25 August 2008 (EDT)